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Post #416721  Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 7:05 pm 
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Two really poor penalties. You have to at least make the keeper work.

Gutted for Gabby but Eze has to do better than that.

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Post #416722  Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 7:05 pm 
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Gutting. A blatant penalty not given has shafted us. Utterly robbed by one of the worst decisions I’ve ever seen in a major final


Madueke was holding on to his arm.

And Mendes just bundled right through the back of him nowhere near the ball.


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Post #416723  Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 7:06 pm 
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Semis last year, final this year. With a better forward line we can win next.


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Post #416724  Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 7:06 pm 
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We beat one cheating nation opened state but we couldn’t beat the other cheating nation owned state


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Post #416725  Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 7:07 pm 
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Decaf wrote:
Two really poor penalties. You have to at least make the keeper work.

Gutted for Gabby but Eze has to do better than that.



Strange that Gabby took the penalty.


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Post #416726  Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 7:07 pm 
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We had a lot of our best penalty takers off the pitch.

Going to be fuming about that Madueke penalty for a long time

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I still think we missed a trick by not starting Madueke. Saka isn't going to last 120 minute so who do you want on the field at the end?

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Decaf wrote:
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We had a lot of our best penalty takers off the pitch.

Going to be fuming about that Madueke penalty for a long time

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I still think we missed a trick by not starting Madueke. Saka isn't going to last 120 minute so who do you want on the field at the end?



I agree with that. We just didn't have enough quality in the final 3rd.


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Post #416728  Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 7:09 pm 
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a loss for football to be honest, yet another win for oil state funded cheats

proud of our club and players - gave their all and that's all you can ask


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Post #416729  Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 7:10 pm 
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Going first in the shoot out is such a big advantage as well.


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Post #416730  Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 7:10 pm 
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Decaf wrote:
Two really poor penalties. You have to at least make the keeper work.

Gutted for Gabby but Eze has to do better than that.


Eze has been largely crap all season. Lazy and ineffective. Nice guy but should be gone in the summer.


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I still think we missed a trick by not starting Madueke. Saka isn't going to last 120 minute so who do you want on the field at the end?



I agree with that. We just didn't have enough quality in the final 3rd.

I can’t think of any coach in the world who doesn’t start the better player because he’s thinking about which player he’d rather take a penalty after 120 mins


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Yeah a good season but not a great season. We cannot claim to be an elite club until we win a CL. This one really hurt.

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I don't think the penalty was blatant but the ref seemed to let every 50/50 go their way. One day we will be in that final and not playing the best team on the planet. First Barca now PSG.

Also losing the toss to decide the end but losing to go first is just unlucky. All the pressure on the last penalty taker.


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Post #416734  Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 7:15 pm 
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PSG are financial cheats, they have only got where they are now by cheating

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Sai ... 01,over%20€1b%20on%20players.


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Rich wrote:
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I agree with that. We just didn't have enough quality in the final 3rd.

I can’t think of any coach in the world who doesn’t start the better player because he’s thinking about which player he’d rather take a penalty after 120 mins



I think Noni did well when he came on but why can't he take a penalty.


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Post #416736  Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 7:16 pm 
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danny wrote:
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Two really poor penalties. You have to at least make the keeper work.

Gutted for Gabby but Eze has to do better than that.



Strange that Gabby took the penalty.

There should be other players taking it before defenders. Again we lead and then try to hold the lead for the rest of the game. Again we fold. How many times have we lost finals on penalties.

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Post #416737  Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 7:17 pm 
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Going first in the shoot out is such a big advantage as well.


And in front of their fans. Hakimi won both tosses. Tosser.

Pen for me. Madueke grabs his arm and he grabs back 50/50 then he bundles him over. Ref is a *%^@.


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Post #416738  Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 7:18 pm 
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danny wrote:
I don't think the penalty was blatant but the ref seemed to let every 50/50 go their way. One day we will be in that final and not playing the best team on the planet. First Barca now PSG.

Also losing the toss to decide the end but losing to go first is just unlucky. All the pressure on the last penalty taker.


It was a clear penalty - no way that's not given if it's on a PSG player

initial contact is just about ok - but then he deliberately falls onto Madueke and takes him down with Madueke goal side, poor from VAR to choke that


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Strange that Gabby took the penalty.

There should be other players taking it before defenders. Again we lead and then try to hold the lead for the rest of the game. Again we fold. How many times have we lost finals on penalties.


3 times. 1980, 2000 and now.


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Ash wrote:
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Going first in the shoot out is such a big advantage as well.


And in front of their fans. Hakimi won both tosses. Tosser.

Pen for me. Madueke grabs his arm and he grabs back 50/50 then he bundles him over. Ref is a *%^@.


Ref was a biased *%^@ all match. But Madueke held onto his arm and pulled him into himself.


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grantyboy wrote:
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And in front of their fans. Hakimi won both tosses. Tosser.

Pen for me. Madueke grabs his arm and he grabs back 50/50 then he bundles him over. Ref is a *%^@.


Ref was a biased *%^@ all match. But Madueke held onto his arm and pulled him into himself.


The PSG penalty is no more a penalty that this too - I think they are both probably penalties, if you give one then both should be given

Kvaratskhelia engineered the contact, in same way Madueke did - it's just the ref was biased - gave one and not the other - no way VAR overturns the Madueke one if ref gives it


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Tomorrow I will be travelling from Yorkshire with my 13 year old son to meet my brother and enjoy the parade. King of Brazil is going to be sung at full volume.


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grantyboy wrote:
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And in front of their fans. Hakimi won both tosses. Tosser.

Pen for me. Madueke grabs his arm and he grabs back 50/50 then he bundles him over. Ref is a *%^@.


Ref was a biased *%^@ all match. But Madueke held onto his arm and pulled him into himself.

Their arms are linked grabbing at each other, but Madueke is in front and Mendes just bundles him over. It is a clear penalty.
That ref was never going to give it to us he seemed to give every 50/50 their way, they could throw and kick the ball away and nothing, he seemed to take a dislike to us trying to slow the game down and seemed to want to give the advantage to PSG because they were showing more attacking intent. There were so many small fouls both ways that always went for them, Havertz couldn’t get a thing and one where timbers hand brushes the PSG players face is a farce. He had two big decisions to make and got one right and one wrong, but all the small decisions he gave to them.


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Ref was a biased *%^@ all match. But Madueke held onto his arm and pulled him into himself.


The PSG penalty is no more a penalty that this too - I think they are both probably penalties, if you give one then both should be given

The problem is the ref gave that kind of free kick to them in the middle of the pitch all game, bundle a player over it’s a simple free kick.


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Post #416745  Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 7:29 pm 
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Rich wrote:
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Ref was a biased *%^@ all match. But Madueke held onto his arm and pulled him into himself.

Their arms are linked grabbing at each other, but Madueke is in front and Mendes just bundles him over. It is a clear penalty.
That ref was never going to give it to us he seemed to give every 50/50 their way, they could throw and kick the ball away and nothing, he seemed to take a dislike to us trying to slow the game down and seemed to want to give the advantage to PSG because they were showing more attacking intent. There were so many small fouls both ways that always went for them, Havertz couldn’t get a thing and one where timbers hand brushes the PSG players face is a farce. He had two big decisions to make and got one right and one wrong, but all the small decisions he gave to them.


100%

we got shafted by ref vs Barca in that final all those years ago too - Lehman should never have been sent off and Eto'o was miles offside for the equalising goal


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probably inappropriate time to say it - but this does expose that our attack can be considerably improved, particularly the left side

It's particularly sad to see a half fit Saka go to World Cup when he should be putting his feet up for a month or two


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1979gooner wrote:
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Their arms are linked grabbing at each other, but Madueke is in front and Mendes just bundles him over. It is a clear penalty.
That ref was never going to give it to us he seemed to give every 50/50 their way, they could throw and kick the ball away and nothing, he seemed to take a dislike to us trying to slow the game down and seemed to want to give the advantage to PSG because they were showing more attacking intent. There were so many small fouls both ways that always went for them, Havertz couldn’t get a thing and one where timbers hand brushes the PSG players face is a farce. He had two big decisions to make and got one right and one wrong, but all the small decisions he gave to them.


100%

we got shafted by ref vs Barca in that final all those years ago too - Lehman should never have been sent off and Eto'o was miles offside for the equalising goal



Cold light of day I expect we will look back and agree we never had control over that game for an extensive period of time. Too players injured or not match fit. Passes forward that we're over hit. Although PSG were not much better.


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Post #416748  Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 7:38 pm 
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can we just *%^@*** bin off those stuttering run up penalties now. They are the most wanky thing since U2s zooroopa album

surely someone at Edinburgh uni has done a study on this silliness by now


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danny wrote:
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100%

we got shafted by ref vs Barca in that final all those years ago too - Lehman should never have been sent off and Eto'o was miles offside for the equalising goal



Cold light of day I expect we will look back and agree we never had control over that game for an extensive period of time. Too players injured or not match fit. Passes forward that we're over hit. Although PSG were not much better.


yep - a lot of our players were well off fully fit and have been for a while, the PL win has required a hell of a lot of energy and running on empty


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can we just *%^@*** bin off those stuttering run up penalties now. They are the most wanky thing since U2s zooroopa album

surely someone at Edinburgh uni has done a study on this silliness by now

Amen! I have long wondered why managers don't decree that any of his players that resorts to that stupidity, forfeits six months wages. And has to listen to that album!


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generally proud of the lads. Great season and so close. Whilst there are questions for me no point in discussing the penalty line up. Done

I like the idea of signing morgan Rogers but to be honest whilst watching the game i thought maybe a Tonali type profile may be a better option a midfield type to get on the ball and drag us back into possession.

well done Mikel, well done lads

Over to you Mr Berta.


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TOP GUN wrote:
generally proud of the lads. Great season and so close. Whilst there are questions for me no point in discussing the penalty line up. Done

I like the idea of signing morgan Rogers but to be honest whilst watching the game i thought maybe a Tonali type profile may be a better option a midfield type to get on the ball and drag us back into possession.

well done Mikel, well done lads

Over to you Mr Berta.


hear, hear

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Raya does seem to dive too early on penalties, he actually takes a shuffle step to one side before diving - it allows him to get right in the corners but it feels too obvious which side not to put it.


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Rich wrote:
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I agree with that. We just didn't have enough quality in the final 3rd.

I can’t think of any coach in the world who doesn’t start the better player because he’s thinking about which player he’d rather take a penalty after 120 mins

I'm not talking about penalities only.

Noni hasn't been great but barring a few flashes Saka has been poor. He did very little tonight.

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Yeah a good season but not a great season. We cannot claim to be an elite club until we win a CL. This one really hurt.

Not for me. Its a great season. The league was the one we had to win and the CL would have been gravy.

Of course, one can question that way we played and the performances of some of our players. We put so little pressure on them in their half. But ultimately what matters is we got the league under our belt and will be back stronger next year.

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Decaf wrote:
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I can’t think of any coach in the world who doesn’t start the better player because he’s thinking about which player he’d rather take a penalty after 120 mins

I'm not talking about penalities only.

Noni hasn't been great but barring a few flashes Saka has been poor. He did very little tonight.


he’s clearly carrying this Achilles issue


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on Arsenal possibly deserving a penalty: "I watch it back and it could easily be a penalty. Especially we see the penalty they gave me this year in the competition. This season, the referee made a decision, and he made a different one with Cristhian Mosquera and that is an important one."

Marginal calls decide these big games.


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Warrior, thank you very much for another great effort in keeping us going this season. Please thank Judith and the family for keeping Steve’s legacy with us. I’m so down after that result will take a break for a while from the forum.

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League cup, fa cup, champions league - all with big referee decisions to make and all went the way of the eventual winners. Many rival fans tell us we got a huge helping hand in the league from key ref decisions…..

At the very top, in the tightest of situations the difference between winning and losing can be the feferee. It’s the nature of such a low scoring sport. These are all decisions that could have been made either way and had they been made the other way you could have easily seen different winners of each of those 3 trophies.


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