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Post #540841  Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:39 pm 
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Every Arsenal side always has one player that makes you scratch your head why he gets the minutes he does despite cock ups or whatever. Xhaka for this side. He's no where as a bad as Mustafi but...

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Post #540842  Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:39 pm 
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That was an immense, spirited performance. Team did themselves proud tonight.


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Pity that team didn’t turn up at Forest eh.

Truly astounding effort. Huge individual performances.

Hopefully it’s not too costly ahead of Sunday.

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Magnificent. Just magnificent.


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Great performance.

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0-0 FT

For a team that is (lazily) always called soft when we lose a game that was balls and fight of the highest order.

That can be the sort of game where that can really galvanise a feeling in a squad

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Great performance.

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Post #540848  Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:43 pm 
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Mentally one of our best results in years.

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Immensely proud of the team :53big-emoticons:

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Post #540850  Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:45 pm 
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Heroic effort :53big-emoticons:


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Post #540851  Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:51 pm 
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Hopefully it’s not too costly ahead of Sunday.

Physically it was probably draining as you allude to, but mentally it should give us a big boost. Another great performance against a top side. Anfield is one of the most difficult places in world football to get a result, and even without Salah and Mané that was a very strong team Liverpool put out there.


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We might have snatched a goal with all XI players. We almost did with 10 so....

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Post #540853  Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:54 pm 
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Wow
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What a performance.
What resilience.
So so proud of us.
We could have capitulated and we stood tall.
Kept the 2nd leg alive.
Brilliant.
Atmosphere will be Brilliant next week.
Can't wait to go and experience it.
Hope saka is OK for Sunday.


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bromley gooner wrote:
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I don’t look to blame players. I didn’t even moan about Tavares on Sunday. I don’t like this social media blame culture. I try to support players and the team. May not always achieve it. But I try.

I agree with that Bernard. Personally I thought Xhaka was a bit unfortunate there.

There's a replay of Xhaka's red card on Youtube. In slow motion it doesn't help him, even outside the box. One Arse player ahead of him and no defenders there at all. Prob why he did what he did.

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The Macedonians needed 300 for what we did with 10.

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No matter what happens at the weekend or this tie without question our tactics are great and this team fights for everything

We haven’t had that in years.


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Post #540857  Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:56 pm 
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Merson strangely saying Ramsdale should have come to challenge Jota for that long ball. That's odd for me. Not many GK come for high balls a long way out of the box - maybe a through ball along the floor, but a high ball like that it is just a 50/50 header.

The better analysis from Merson on the red card was the press that Arsenal put on wasn't on, a couple of players were late to the press and Gabriel went too far up and left the gap. Sometimes if it isn't on you just have to drop and concede territory and get your shape back


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Chambers was brilliant when he came on.
Surely he should be ahead of Cédric in the pecking order to deputise for Tomiyasu.


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Proud of the team tonight. They are giving it everything they've got, can't ask for more than that.

Yeah it was Brom .... but given the circumstances we had no other option .

Was it a case of us defending well or were Liverpool a bit wasteful / didn't have the quality on the night to exploit the situation


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I agree with that Bernard. Personally I thought Xhaka was a bit unfortunate there.

There's a replay of Xhaka's red card on Youtube. In slow motion it doesn't help him, even outside the box. One Arse player ahead of him and no defenders there at all. Prob why he did what he did.

It’s a blatant red it’s not even a subjective decision. The blokes been played in. Could have broke his rib too

If it happened at the other end we would have been screaming red


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Zed wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
I agree with that Bernard. Personally I thought Xhaka was a bit unfortunate there.

There's a replay of Xhaka's red card on Youtube. In slow motion it doesn't help him, even outside the box. One Arse player ahead of him and no defenders there at all. Prob why he did what he did.

I don't think that is one of those where Xhaka is deliberately taking the man with a rush of blood, I think he thinks he can hook it away on the volley and Jota gets in front of him and the rest is inevitable.


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Merson strangely saying Ramsdale should have come to challenge Jota for that long ball. That's odd for me. Not many GK come for high balls a long way out of the box - maybe a through ball along the floor, but a high ball like that it is just a 50/50 header.

The better analysis from Merson on the red card was the press that Arsenal put on wasn't on, a couple of players were late to the press and Gabriel went too far up and left the gap. Sometimes if it isn't on you just have to drop and concede territory and get your shape back

You’re giving Merse too much credit. The analysis was by Carragher at half time. Merse simply repeated what Carragher had said.

And if Ramsdale had come out he would have been in great danger of colliding and getting himself sent off.

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Worth another shout out to Chambers and Holding. It isn't always easy to come on as a sub and immediately pick up the speed of the game and the concentration. It is where both players are very good.

White was absolutely superb and a worthy man of the match.

Arteta has a big decision for the NLD. White is so good on the ball do you put him in CM and let Lokonga roam forward more? How does he patch up that central midfield.


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I find it a little harsh to blame Ramsdale.

Xhaka doesn’t have to boot the guy just disrupt him. He’s not expecting the closest player to get himself sent off (again)


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AmericanGooner wrote:
The Macedonians needed 300 for what we did with 10.


They were Spartans.

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I cringe looking at it. Its a foul. No doubt. Red card is the only thing remotely debatable.




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First side to keep a clean sheet at Anfield with 10 men since 2015. And that match needs a caveat because Liverpool went down to 10 men on 58 minutes v West Ham who were already 2-0 up when they had their man sent off with 12 mins to go.


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Holding has been steady as a 3rd choice. I think the bar has been raised in central defending with Gabriel and White. I can imagine in training any other central defender has to level up to compete. Always a good thing.

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Rich wrote:
White was absolutely superb and a worthy man of the match.

To me, he's been getting better and better with each game. Looks like a future top class defender in my book.


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Rich wrote:
Merson strangely saying Ramsdale should have come to challenge Jota for that long ball. That's odd for me. Not many GK come for high balls a long way out of the box - maybe a through ball along the floor, but a high ball like that it is just a 50/50 header.

The better analysis from Merson on the red card was the press that Arsenal put on wasn't on, a couple of players were late to the press and Gabriel went too far up and left the gap. Sometimes if it isn't on you just have to drop and concede territory and get your shape back

It's Merse. He's a ridiculous pundit.

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Proud of the team tonight. Guts and determination. Almost a George Graham type performance. No guarantee we’ll reach the final. But tonight I feel proud of every single player, without exception.


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Merson strangely saying Ramsdale should have come to challenge Jota for that long ball. That's odd for me. Not many GK come for high balls a long way out of the box - maybe a through ball along the floor, but a high ball like that it is just a 50/50 header.

The better analysis from Merson on the red card was the press that Arsenal put on wasn't on, a couple of players were late to the press and Gabriel went too far up and left the gap. Sometimes if it isn't on you just have to drop and concede territory and get your shape back

It's Merse. He's a ridiculous pundit.

His book - how not to be a professional footballer- is very funny and also a very honest account of his desperate gambling addiction.


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Ramsdale and White were looked at skeptically by Gooners before arrival. Ramsdale criminally so. White, for me seemed very good from the start. One or two questionable things but that is going to happen with a new side, a better side initially.

I never thought Leno would lose his job so quickly and I rate Leno. We have two very good keepers. Either could start for most sides.

Holding is making us not long for Saliba as much. This has to be a confidence booster for the side, but the physical toll is yet to be determined.

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I wondered .... does Xhaka's reputation precede him ... if that had been Ben White , Martinelli would we have had the same outcome .

Heroic effort and obviously better than losing 4 -0 ; but I don't agree with the commentary team that give us a slight advantage .

At home we will have to come out and attack , leaving more space at the back which will suit Liverpool . With their more accurate passing my $$$$ would be on them .


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AmericanGooner wrote:
I cringe looking at it. Its a foul. No doubt. Red card is the only thing remotely debatable.





Hi AG,

It's a definite red, its a reckless kick in the stomach, Jota is probably through on goal and Xhaka is the last man.

However, Xhaka was hung out to dry by the left side of the defence who were absent without leave and he was panicked into making a desperate attempt to clear the ball.


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Now, if we could just wrap up the Vlahovic signing :laughing7:


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For the replay, Liverpool will still be missing Salah, Mané and Keita (who has actually been very good this season). This will pretty much be the strongest team they can put out. Slight psychological advantage for us, but it's really open still.


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I wondered .... does Xhaka's reputation precede him ... if that had been Ben White , Martinelli would we have had the same outcome .

Heroic effort and obviously better than losing 4 -0 ; but I don't agree with the commentary team that give us a slight advantage .

At home we will have to come out and attack , leaving more space at the back which will suit Liverpool . With their more accurate passing my $$$$ would be on them .

The tie is balanced 50:50 but having Salah and Mané unavailable is a big miss for them. They looked very blunt up front although Jota is still a big threat.
It will be a massive achievement if we can get through.


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dec wrote:
Rich wrote:
Merson strangely saying Ramsdale should have come to challenge Jota for that long ball. That's odd for me. Not many GK come for high balls a long way out of the box - maybe a through ball along the floor, but a high ball like that it is just a 50/50 header.

The better analysis from Merson on the red card was the press that Arsenal put on wasn't on, a couple of players were late to the press and Gabriel went too far up and left the gap. Sometimes if it isn't on you just have to drop and concede territory and get your shape back

It's Merse. He's a ridiculous pundit.


Matthew Upson can give him a few pointers ...five minutes after Xhaka departs......

his visionary comment ........" I think Liverpool can smell blood in the water "


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