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Post #529001  Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 8:56 pm 
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Dreadful, and yet quite unsurprising. That’s who we are right now.

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Post #529002  Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 8:56 pm 
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Well I’m sorry to say I don’t think Arteta has much time left now, if any.

The improvements, such as they are, are just not enough to give him any more time.

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Post #529004  Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 8:56 pm 
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Arteta must go !!!!!!!!

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Post #529005  Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 8:57 pm 
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Villarreal deserved winners over the two legs.


Emery will be pleased. Legitimate questions about Arteta. Biggest game of the year and we looked less than motivated and that is on the manager.

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Has there ever been a more pathetic attempt to win a euro semi-final?.

The first 45 mins we played at testamonial pace.

It's not like Villareal are any good.

Arteta cannot seem to get any sort of tune out of these players. He should do the honorable thing and resign.


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Post #529007  Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 8:58 pm 
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Painfully poor and out with a whimper. Arteta has to go.


I think you just give him next season personally. You learn from failure which is probably why we nose dived after winning the FA cup. False sense of how good the team is.

Buuuuut, this was *%^@. I’d have no real complaints if he was sacked.


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Cant shake the feeling that Arteta is trying to play elite level tactics designed for world class players with incredible football intelligence. It just isn't working with what we have.

Desperately poor to go out with such a whimper, 0-0 at home to what is really not a great side - but neither are we.

You can't not turn up for 180 minutes and expect to go through


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Post #529009  Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 8:59 pm 
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Post #529010  Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 8:59 pm 
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*%^@ off Arteta
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Post #529011  Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 9:00 pm 
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We're just a terribly frail team. Signings are definitely needed, but it's not a lack of quality on paper that makes us perform like this time and time again against teams who are weaker or on the same level as us. There's no belief in the team, we're playing without any real conviction. I don't see how signings will magically fix that.

We just failed to score a goal from open play in a two-leg European semifinal, nobody can look at these games and say at least the effort was there.


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Congratulations Yellow boys.

Better team won.


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socrates wrote:
Has there ever been a more pathetic attempt to win a euro semi-final?.

The first 45 mins we played at testamonial pace.

It's not like Villareal are any good.

Arteta cannot seem to get any sort of tune out of these players. He should do the honorable thing and resign.

Feels like he sets up for games to be deliberately tight, knowing the odd moment will decide it one way or the other. When you have error prone players that is only going to work out one way for you.

It was such a gutless performance. needed to score but too scared to actually properly push to do so in case we conceded.


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Always lacking urgency. And then play desperate football at the end. Sick of Leno with his very slow distribution.

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I am actually gutted. Arsenal fans deserve better than what was carved up tonight. Much much better.


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Rich wrote:
Cant shake the feeling that Arteta is trying to play elite level tactics designed for world class players with incredible football intelligence. It just isn't working with what we have.

Desperately poor to go out with such a whimper, 0-0 at home to what is really not a great side - but neither are we.

You can't not turn up for 180 minutes and expect to go through


Yep, This is what Peps City would be if they couldn’t keep erasing the mistakes of poor purchases. In fact this is pretty much what you did see in his first season.

That’s not to exonerate Arteta, it’s his job to get the best out of the players he has.


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Well, we can't blame Xhaka or Ceballos today :42laughter:

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I've long said there is something intangible about this squad, and previous squads that permeates them. The lack of belief, fight, sense or urgency on a consistent level or when the situation calls for it.

It doesn't seem to matter who is managing them. I fear its something in the club itself. The environment atmosphere, something.

The question for me is, will getting rid of Arteta solve that? Would this squad play with more emotion if we bring in Pep or Klopp? We can't but one would think players would be highly motivated by a manager with succh prestige. I'm not so sure.

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Hazuki wrote:
We're just a terribly frail team. Signings are definitely needed, but it's not a lack of quality on paper that makes us perform like this time and time again against teams who are weaker or on the same level as us. There's no belief in the team, we're playing without any real conviction. I don't see how signings will magically fix that.

We just failed to score a goal from open play in a two-leg European semifinal, nobody can look at these games and say at least the effort was there.


You're right, Haz, the players aren't as bad at this. I just do not undertand how a bunch of largely international footballers can perform with such lethargy, such a lack of intent and such a lack of quality.


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When you go out needing just 1 goal you expect the defending team to be on their knees at the final whistle having defended for their lives, summoning every last bit of effort to run and block......we had maybe 3 shots on target over both legs. Such a feeble performance.

So much wrong with this club from top to bottom. Small signs of improvement are quickly realised as blips as we return to boring normality. Arsenal are just boring now.


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Emery out. Time to get Arteta in.

Oh wait...


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No european football next season basically equates to one game a week. Not great.


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No tears if Arteta leaves. Higher chance to see Saliba & Balogun playing first team football.
Good riddance to Willian and Ceballos.

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socrates wrote:
Hazuki wrote:
We're just a terribly frail team. Signings are definitely needed, but it's not a lack of quality on paper that makes us perform like this time and time again against teams who are weaker or on the same level as us. There's no belief in the team, we're playing without any real conviction. I don't see how signings will magically fix that.

We just failed to score a goal from open play in a two-leg European semifinal, nobody can look at these games and say at least the effort was there.


You're right, Haz, the players aren't as bad at this. I just do not undertand how a bunch of largely international footballers can perform with such lethargy, such a lack of intent and such a lack of quality.

This season has been a combination of lots of players playing nowhere near their level, plenty of players proving they really aren't good enough for us even at their best level and the occasional bright spark from young players who shouldn't have to be dragging the team through this mess. Alongside this our manager seems to paralyse the team with his instructions and tactics.


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Always lacking urgency. And then play desperate football at the end. Sick of Leno with his very slow distribution.

Give it a rest. You can’t blame the keeper for drawing 0-0.


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socrates wrote:
No european football next season basically equates to one game a week. Not great.

And a massive revenue hit and a longer term damage to our european ranking when we do get back in european competitions making it much harder to progress.


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First half was bad but we hit the post twice. Slightly unlucky

We just aren’t that good.

People saying we have the quality ? Seriously ? Youngsters who aren’t battle hardened at all, one who was on loan at Huddersfield last year, another on a spring break from Spain.

I thought Pépé and Aubameyang were the only ones likely to do anything and our midfield has little passing capability required to play at the highest level.

Chain smoking habitual loser incoming.


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Bernard wrote:
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Always lacking urgency. And then play desperate football at the end. Sick of Leno with his very slow distribution.

Give it a rest. You can’t blame the keeper for drawing 0-0.

Agree, utterly pathetic


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socrates wrote:
No european football next season basically equates to one game a week. Not great.


Au contraire Rodney. :icon_mrgreen:

More heavy losses for KSE to look at. :1laughter:

I have no doubt they'll dump Arteta now in a lame attempt to take the heat off themselves.

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gooner7 wrote:
Well, we can't blame Xhaka or Ceballos today :42laughter:

Ghoulish behaviour seemingly enjoying a loss


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First half was bad but we hit the post twice. Slightly unlucky

We just aren’t that good.

People saying we have the quality ? Seriously ? Youngsters who aren’t battle hardened at all, one who was on loan at Huddersfield last year, another on a spring break from Spain.

I thought Pépé and Aubameyang were the only ones likely to do anything and our midfield has little passing capability required to play at the highest level.

Chain smoking habitual loser incoming.


Loser? Menotti only won the World Cup! Bring it on!


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Bernard wrote:
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Always lacking urgency. And then play desperate football at the end. Sick of Leno with his very slow distribution.

Give it a rest. You can’t blame the keeper for drawing 0-0.



Not blaming him for 0-0. Blaming him for being slow. That s a fact, he is slow to distribute. Too slow.

That's my opinion. You have yours. End of.

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I would have loved for Arteta to have been a big success because we really could do with a young manager who could stay a few years, but the truth is he hasn't been a big success, FA Cup apart. The big games we have won have been largely on the back of keeping things tight and playing on the break but there are only so many teams you can do that against.

Wenger's philosophy was to play on the front foot, take the game to the opposition, play exciting attacking football that gets the fans off their seats and score goals. OK, so he did that to the detriment of the defensive side of the game in his latter years but we have to get back to that attacking ethos.


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TOP GUN wrote:
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Well, we can't blame Xhaka or Ceballos today :42laughter:

Ghoulish behaviour seemingly enjoying a loss


Lightening my mood

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No tears if Arteta leaves. Higher chance to see Saliba & Balogun playing first team football.
Good riddance to Willian and Ceballos.

With no european football there is a chance to completely purge the squad. We need to trim the squad size down hugely by not playing 2 games a week.
Bellerin, Luiz, Ceballos, Elneny, Nketiah, Nelson, AMN, Willock, Kolasinac (he's still our player), Chambers, Ødegaard, Runnarsson, Lacazette, Guendouzi, Torreira, Mavropanos can all go.

Then see who in the squad has the guts to stay and fight to get us back up the table, I could definitely see a few players we might want to stay start to get itchy feet. Then you could easily have some big clubs sniff around the likes of Saka and Martinelli. They regularly pick off mid table prem players.


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Out with hardly a whimper, let alone a bang.

Not sure where we go from here.

I’m usually a very optimistic person, but I’m struggling to see a bright future here.

Back to the mid 70s and 80s is the next few years I think.

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Arteta looks emotionally choked in the interview

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socrates wrote:
Wenger's philosophy was to play on the front foot, take the game to the opposition, play exciting attacking football that gets the fans off their seats and score goals. OK, so he did that to the detriment of the defensive side of the game in his latter years but we have to get back to that attacking ethos.


you never attended the 4-4 game with spurs at home in 2008 did you ? This wouldn't have been posted if you had.


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Rich wrote:
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No tears if Arteta leaves. Higher chance to see Saliba & Balogun playing first team football.
Good riddance to Willian and Ceballos.

With no european football there is a chance to completely purge the squad. We need to trim the squad size down hugely by not playing 2 games a week.
Bellerin, Luiz, Ceballos, Elneny, Nketiah, Nelson, AMN, Willock, Kolasinac (he's still our player), Chambers, Ødegaard, Runnarsson, Lacazette, Guendouzi, Torreira, Mavropanos can all go.

Then see who in the squad has the guts to stay and fight to get us back up the table, I could definitely see a few players we might want to stay start to get itchy feet. Then you could easily have some big clubs sniff around the likes of Saka and Martinelli. They regularly pick off mid table prem players.


Add Leno, who reportedly said he wants to leave in the summer.

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If we sack Arteta what level of manager could we actually attract and would want to work here. Yes there is the history and the big name but any manager is facing a complete rebuild, which successful manager wants to put their neck on the block for that? Rodgers turned down Spurs, he won’t come to us and I don’t blame him. For the next 5 years which team has a better chance of success Leicester or Arsenal?


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