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Post #528761  Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 2:56 pm 
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Hope it will be this easy on Thursday and with the same scoreline.

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We are top half of the league say we are top half of the league


Just like winning a trophy
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The media slagging of the Man U fans but I think they've played a blinder.


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We are top half of the league say we are top half of the league


Indeed.

I was worried there for a moment with that challenge on Martinelli.


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I have zero confidence in us getting a win today. Draw is what I think will happen. I'm hoping I'm proven wrong. I'd love to see us get a big win and build some confidence going into the 2nd leg.


You lost that bet big time. :15laughter: :toothy9:

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What? They’ve sold all of their players?

Even if they did, none of the good ones would be coming our way. :26surprise:

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Nice comfortable win. Goal and some minutes for Aubameyang was the biggest positive ahead of Thursday. I also really like Martinelli and his willingness to directly dribble at players, he causes problems, ok it might not work every time but given the choice between a winger who dribbles 10 times and loses it 7 of those times and beats his man the other 3 vs a winger who constantly just passes it back to his full back I know which it rather have.

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Rich wrote:
Nice comfortable win. Goal and some minutes for Aubameyang was the biggest positive ahead of Thursday. I also really like Martinelli and his willingness to directly dribble at players, he causes problems, ok it might not work every time but given the choice between a winger who dribbles 10 times and loses it 7 of those times and beats his man the other 3 vs a winger who constantly just passes it back to his full back I know which it rather have.

I’d start Bellerin on Thursday as well.

Bellerin is comfortably the best right back at the club. It's another odd decision by Arteta. Also, what was the point of signing Cédric if he is neither 1st or 2nd choice for either fullback position?

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Rich wrote:
Nice comfortable win. Goal and some minutes for Aubameyang was the biggest positive ahead of Thursday. I also really like Martinelli and his willingness to directly dribble at players, he causes problems, ok it might not work every time but given the choice between a winger who dribbles 10 times and loses it 7 of those times and beats his man the other 3 vs a winger who constantly just passes it back to his full back I know which it rather have.

I’d start Bellerin on Thursday as well.

It’s not just the dribbling. If he loses the ball then he works hard to get it back and he is very effective at a high press.

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No game. United v Liverpool game postponed. A lot of damage inside stadium.

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No game. United v Liverpool game postponed. A lot of damage inside stadium.

If true then that’s a shame. It detracts hugely from the message that I presume that they were trying to get across.

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dec wrote:
Rich wrote:
Nice comfortable win. Goal and some minutes for Aubameyang was the biggest positive ahead of Thursday. I also really like Martinelli and his willingness to directly dribble at players, he causes problems, ok it might not work every time but given the choice between a winger who dribbles 10 times and loses it 7 of those times and beats his man the other 3 vs a winger who constantly just passes it back to his full back I know which it rather have.

I’d start Bellerin on Thursday as well.

Bellerin is comfortably the best right back at the club. It's another odd decision by Arteta. Also, what was the point of signing Cédric if he is neither 1st or 2nd choice for either fullback position?


They know Bellerin is leaving the club this summer clearly and are concerned about his professional application. I agree it’s Hobson choice and he needs to be played


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Zed wrote:
No game. United v Liverpool game postponed. A lot of damage inside stadium.

Assuming it was local fans who would bother to turn up for a ‘behind closed doors’ fixture, being it’s all going to be on CCTV the Manchester police will be busy identifying culprits involved over the next few days. Expect lots of them to be nicked for this.

Heavy fines, or maybe to set an example a few of the ones who caused damage spending a bit of time in Strangeways?


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No game. United v Liverpool game postponed. A lot of damage inside stadium.

If true then that’s a shame. It detracts hugely from the message that I presume that they were trying to get across.


Financially it won't phase the Glazers much. Their NFL team won the Super Bowl this year.

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Bernard wrote:
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No game. United v Liverpool game postponed. A lot of damage inside stadium.

Assuming it was local fans who would bother to turn up for a ‘behind closed doors’ fixture, being it’s all going to be on CCTV the Manchester police will be busy identifying culprits involved over the next few days. Expect lots of them to be nicked for this.

Heavy fines, maybe a few of the ones who caused damage spending a bit of time in Strangeways?

CCTV should have picked up which doors/gate was damaged where fans got in, depending how/where cameras are set up. May have been some pitch damage as well. A TV camera tripod was damaged as a fan tossed it. The stewards weren't trained to police or stop invading fans, due to matches being played behind closed doors. Took the police awhile to get to OT anyway. Maybe they were local fans. No matter. Still game will be played on another date and City still could win the league. Fines assessed and a few fans banned probably.

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A mention to Ryan as well today. Thought he was excellent under the high ball, punched when he was crowed or under pressure and also caught well to take the pressure off us. Think that’s his first clean sheet for us, after being a bit unlucky with an own goal and a penalty before


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Zed wrote:
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If true then that’s a shame. It detracts hugely from the message that I presume that they were trying to get across.

Financially it won't phase the Glazers much. Their NFL team won the Super Bowl this year.

I don't pay much attention to American football, but I read an article that notes it can be more rewarding to come last in the league than to win, because you then get first pick at the draft. Towards then end of the season the weaker teams start deliberately losing to increase their chances of getting the next NFL equivalent of Messi. Rather like ringing it to get a high handicap in golf.

The Jacksonville Jaguars, who are supposedly hopeless, got a player called Trevor Lawrence (who looks like he'd fit right in to Jacksonville) who is supposedly the absolute mustard with a football (if that is the right word) in hand (Rather like the best English prospect being forced to go and play for Barnet?) They then cash in, owners pocket cash, and things proceed in unruffled manner, with the Jags propping up the table like Atlas each season.

it seem to be quite a curious game.

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long time gooner wrote:
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No game. United v Liverpool game postponed. A lot of damage inside stadium.

If true then that’s a shame. It detracts hugely from the message that I presume that they were trying to get across.


Dont think it does, let's hope we see plenty more of this.

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Financially it won't phase the Glazers much. Their NFL team won the Super Bowl this year.

I don't pay much attention to American football, but I read an article that notes it can be more rewarding to come last in the league than to win, because you then get first pick at the draft. Towards then end of the season the weaker teams start deliberately losing to increase their chances of getting the next NFL equivalent of Messi. Rather like ringing it to get a high handicap in golf.

The Jacksonville Jaguars, who are supposedly hopeless, got a player called Trevor Lawrence (who looks like he'd fit right in to Jacksonville) who is supposedly the absolute mustard with a football (if that is the right word) in hand (Rather like the best English prospect being forced to go and play for Barnet?) They then cash in, owners pocket cash, and things proceed in unruffled manner, with the Jags propping up the table like Atlas each season.

it seem to be quite a curious game.

Hi Decaf,
No I don't bother with the NFL much either. Only do at times as we have owners involved in it. Recent Super Bowl winning players pocket $130K, whereas, losing players get $65K. Not sure if that's each, but if it is, not too shabby.

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Zed wrote:
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I don't pay much attention to American football, but I read an article that notes it can be more rewarding to come last in the league than to win, because you then get first pick at the draft. Towards then end of the season the weaker teams start deliberately losing to increase their chances of getting the next NFL equivalent of Messi. Rather like ringing it to get a high handicap in golf.

The Jacksonville Jaguars, who are supposedly hopeless, got a player called Trevor Lawrence (who looks like he'd fit right in to Jacksonville) who is supposedly the absolute mustard with a football (if that is the right word) in hand (Rather like the best English prospect being forced to go and play for Barnet?) They then cash in, owners pocket cash, and things proceed in unruffled manner, with the Jags propping up the table like Atlas each season.

it seem to be quite a curious game.

Hi Decaf,
No I don't bother with the NFL much either. Only do at times as we have owners involved in it. Recent Super Bowl winning players pocket $130K, whereas, losing players get $65K. Not sure if that's each, but if it is, not too shabby.


Don’t know if that sounds huge. A mate of mine knew the father of one of our reserve players about 15 years ago he was sporadically involved after a spate of injuries from time to time and the father said our players and his son won a few win bonuses for champions league group games and the amount per game was 16 thousand quid. That sounded huge to me at the time. No wonder they go ballistic when we win.


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Bored wrote:
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We are top half of the league say we are top half of the league


Indeed.

I was worried there for a moment with that challenge on Martinelli.

"Top half of the league" doesn't quite quicken the pulse in the same manner as "top of the league", does it?

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Hi Decaf,
No I don't bother with the NFL much either. Only do at times as we have owners involved in it. Recent Super Bowl winning players pocket $130K, whereas, losing players get $65K. Not sure if that's each, but if it is, not too shabby.


Don’t know if that sounds huge. A mate of mine knew the father of one of our reserve players about 15 years ago he was sporadically involved after a spate of injuries from time to time and the father said our players and his son won a few win bonuses for champions league group games and the amount per game was 16 thousand quid. That sounded huge to me at the time. No wonder they go ballistic when we win.

It has to be a bonus TG. Largest one for the winners obviously.

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dec wrote:
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Nice comfortable win. Goal and some minutes for Aubameyang was the biggest positive ahead of Thursday. I also really like Martinelli and his willingness to directly dribble at players, he causes problems, ok it might not work every time but given the choice between a winger who dribbles 10 times and loses it 7 of those times and beats his man the other 3 vs a winger who constantly just passes it back to his full back I know which it rather have.

I’d start Bellerin on Thursday as well.

Bellerin is comfortably the best right back at the club. It's another odd decision by Arteta. Also, what was the point of signing Cédric if he is neither 1st or 2nd choice for either fullback position?


Was thinking the same when the squads went up. Cédric is apparently a worse left back option than Xhaka but is good enough to be on the bench. Unless it was Arteta's attempts to play a 3-6-1 formation. :9surprise:


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Bellerin is comfortably the best right back at the club. It's another odd decision by Arteta. Also, what was the point of signing Cédric if he is neither 1st or 2nd choice for either fullback position?


Was thinking the same when the squads went up. Cédric is apparently a worse left back option than Xhaka but is good enough to be on the bench. Unless it was Arteta's attempts to play a 3-6-1 formation. :9surprise:


I think it sort of was! Xhaka basically stepped up into midfield and played quarterback and against Newcastle you can just about get away with it. After the terror of him playing that whole second half on a yellow I thought he actually did really well, but Gabriel covered there a few times which I don’t think was by accident. Whoever was on Newcastle’s right wing thought I’ll have a run at Xhaka and get him sent off, found themselves up against a brick wall in Gab and he showed that at his best he’s a phenomenal one on one defender. I still think he and one other is our best option as the CB pairing. I wonder again what’s going to happens with Saliba at the end of the season...


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Decaf wrote:
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Indeed.

I was worried there for a moment with that challenge on Martinelli.

"Top half of the league" doesn't quite quicken the pulse in the same manner as "top of the league", does it?


I mean if you can’t celebrate the Arsenal breaking the shackles of 11th place and rising like mighty phoenixes to, er, 9th then you sir, and I’m sorry to use this strong language, are a curmudgeon.


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Unbelievable that Fleck didn't even getting a card from deliberately rucking Lo Celso's face in the Totts match. All the VAR replays clearly showed Fleck looking down at where his feet were and forcefully stamping down to ensure contact was made. If he really didn't want to make contact he could have easily lifted his legs and gone to ground. Diabolical VAR yet again.


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Ash wrote:
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Was thinking the same when the squads went up. Cédric is apparently a worse left back option than Xhaka but is good enough to be on the bench. Unless it was Arteta's attempts to play a 3-6-1 formation. :9surprise:


I think it sort of was! Xhaka basically stepped up into midfield and played quarterback and against Newcastle you can just about get away with it. After the terror of him playing that whole second half on a yellow I thought he actually did really well, but Gabriel covered there a few times which I don’t think was by accident. Whoever was on Newcastle’s right wing thought I’ll have a run at Xhaka and get him sent off, found themselves up against a brick wall in Gab and he showed that at his best he’s a phenomenal one on one defender. I still think he and one other is our best option as the CB pairing. I wonder again what’s going to happens with Saliba at the end of the season...



Yeah I like Gabriel too. Sometimes gets a bit overextended when coming for balls over the top but overall has good strength, tackling and positional awareness. I haven't taken note of his aerial ability in the box but at the moment I think the best pairing is probably him and Holding or dare I say it, Luiz.


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Ash wrote:
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"Top half of the league" doesn't quite quicken the pulse in the same manner as "top of the league", does it?


I mean if you can’t celebrate the Arsenal breaking the shackles of 11th place and rising like mighty phoenixes to, er, 9th then you sir, and I’m sorry to use this strong language, are a curmudgeon.


Geez that's a bit harsh. This is a family venue. :laughing7:


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It was 50 years ago today......


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For Thursday I think Arteta will pick the following team
Leno, chambers, holding, mari, xhaka, partey, elneny, saka, smith Rowe, Pépé, Aubameyang
That should be enough to qualify if we play as we can, but we could easily turn up and put in another stinker.

I’d prefer to see Bellerin start and Xhaka in midfield, I’d probably go Ødegaard over smith Rowe as well depending on Ødegaard’s fitness


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One of the reasons Xhaka didn’t get over exposed at left back was because Newcastle’s right winger was constantly being dragged back by the direct running of Martinelli. Attack was definitely the best form of defence there


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DHD wrote:
It was 50 years ago today......

That Sgt.Pepper taught the band to play?

Ray Kennedy. White Hart Lane. Part 1 of 2 :21encouragement:


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It was 50 years ago today......

That Sgt.Pepper taught the band to play?

Ray Kennedy. White Hart Lane. Part 1 of 2 :21encouragement:

You have the same sense of humour as me. The same things shot into my mind.

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MOTD last night. Man City have spent about 400 million more than arsenal in the last 8 years.

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long time gooner wrote:
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That Sgt.Pepper taught the band to play?

Ray Kennedy. White Hart Lane. Part 1 of 2 :21encouragement:

You have the same sense of humour as me. The same things shot into my mind.

Was at both games. Brilliant week. I still have my rosette from the final!
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Andy Green wrote:
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You have the same sense of humour as me. The same things shot into my mind.

Was at both games. Brilliant week. I still have my rosette from the final!
(Younger forumites may need to look that word up)


You and me both Andy.

I have the match programme from Wembley (though fuknose where). I did have a sod of grass clawed with my bare hands from the WHL pitch - only time I’ve ever joined a pitch invasion - but when if decayed to dust, my mum binned it.

I think Bern may have been there too. Anyone else?


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Andy Green wrote:
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You have the same sense of humour as me. The same things shot into my mind.

Was at both games. Brilliant week. I still have my rosette from the final!
(Younger forumites may need to look that word up)

So was I. My dad worked in Tottenham for a rubber company. The office where he worked was in Tottenham Hale, but they had a warehouse or factory in Tottenham High Road, a short walk from the ground. To save time, he took me into work that day, spending most of it in his Tottenham Hale office before driving to the factory or warehouse to park and walk down to the ground.

I’ve no idea now if 3rd May 1971 was a UK bank holiday (as today is), but if it wasn’t it must have been a parentally approved (or driven) day of truant or bunking off school.


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I think Bern may have been there too. Anyone else?

Wrote my last post before seeing yours.


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Bernard wrote:
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I think Bern may have been there too. Anyone else?

Wrote my last post before seeing yours.

Getting in WHL that night was tough. The crowds were incredible. I just got swept along... think my feet were both off the ground at some point Don’t remember too much about the game.Apart from Rays header I remember Gilzean going in hard on Bob Wilson at one point. After the game I followed the crowd and got up near the Director’s box
I have a lovely photo somewhere of Billy Nicholson congratulating Bertie Mee
Nice touch from a classy guy.
If memory serves we won the double and Spurs the League Cup. Did Chelsea win the Cup Winners Cup in a replay that year also.
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Andy Green wrote:
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Wrote my last post before seeing yours.

Getting in WHL that night was tough. The crowds were incredible. I just got swept along... think my feet were both off the ground at some point Don’t remember too much about the game.Apart from Rays header I remember Gilzean going in hard on Bob Wilson at one point. After the game I followed the crowd and got up near the Director’s box
I have a lovely photo somewhere of Billy Nicholson congratulating Bertie Mee
Nice touch from a classy guy.
If memory serves we won the double and Spurs the League Cup. Did Chelsea win the Cup Winners Cup in a replay that year also.
Good year for London clubs


I was there with three of my mates; we’re spread around the UK and Europe these days but we still ZOOM every week and meet up when we can. We’d all taken the afternoon off work though other mates couldn’t so missed out. We got to the ground at about 3:00 I think and were shocked and amazed that massive queues (several deep) had already formed; they must’ve got there at dawn.

As we were walking to join the back of the queue it became obvious we probably wouldn’t get in. Then amazingly, a police horse reared up causing general chaos and an almighty scramble; when things calmed down, we were all safely in the queue several hours higher we should’ve been. Apologies to the four who missed out. The rumour at the time was that maybe up to 100,000 were locked out.


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