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Post #552521  Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:46 pm 
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Thomas Partey has pulled out of the Ghana starting XI against Brazil due to a knock picked up during the warm-up.

Hey ho.

What is this man made of?? The finest porcelain.

It’s strange. In his last three season at Atletico Madrid he must have been verging on injury free. In 2017/18 he played 33 La Liga games; in 2018/19 he played 32 La Liga matches; in 2019/20 he played 35 La Liga games. Over the three seasons he also played 38 cup games.


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Post #552522  Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:07 pm 
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Southgate seems to be picking this back 5 and defensive safety first football almost as needs must as he doesn’t trust a back 4 or the technical quality of englands players to dominate a game. To some extent I agree with him, but he keeps leaving out players who are technically better than what he picks in favour of more robotic safe players.
Picking Saka at left wing back when he hasn’t played there in 3 years and is one of the best right wingers in the prem is bizarre.

England have one of if not the best No.9 in the world, surround him with creative quality from wide areas and pick players centrally and in defence who don’t just hoof it.

Ben white should be picked in a back 4 with Stones, James, Chilwell. Or go for broke and pick Trent - there’s not much between him and James in my opinion.
Saka has to start on the right wing, play players in the system and position they play for their clubs and play attacking football. I’d like to see Maddison given a chance and someone else on the left wing other than Sterling who has scored a lot of goals but his touch is awful.


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Southgate seems to be picking this back 5 and defensive safety first football almost as needs must as he doesn’t trust a back 4 or the technical quality of englands players to dominate a game. To some extent I agree with him, but he keeps leaving out players who are technically better than what he picks in favour of more robotic safe players.
Picking Saka at left wing back when he hasn’t played there in 3 years and is one of the best right wingers in the prem is bizarre.

England have one of if not the best No.9 in the world, surround him with creative quality from wide areas and pick players centrally and in defence who don’t just hoof it.

Ben white should be picked in a back 4 with Stones, James, Chilwell. Or go for broke and pick Trent - there’s not much between him and James in my opinion.
Saka has to start on the right wing, play players in the system and position they play for their clubs and play attacking football. I’d like to see Maddison given a chance and someone else on the left wing other than Sterling who has scored a lot of goals but his touch is awful.

I watched the last three minutes of injury time. Have Italy lightened the shade of blue for their shirts? I thought they used to have a darker (albeit way off navy) shade of blue shirts than they had today.


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Saka rated as worst England player :20hospitals:

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If you honestly think I am stupid please ignore my posts.

I'll ignore yours until you learn some manners.

I don’t think you’re stupid at all. I never said you were. I feel you said something stupid in that post, which isn’t the same as calling you stupid. Just saying something that is stupid doesn’t make one stupid.

Are you seriously saying you would rather be murdered than live under a corrupt government? Because that is surely what you strongly implied. Hence I think that was a stupid thing to say.

I am sorry if you feel I was being rude. But I think that has more to do with you taking what I said the wrong way rather than me lacking manners.


Greetings Bernard. Sorry for getting on my high horse.

My point was if your live in a country where corruption is rampant (and money laundering is pretty central to that), you have high chance of being miserable or dying/being killed before your time.

In fact, even if we narrow it down to serial killers ... the worst serial killers (in terms of people killed) in history are in places like South America (they tend to move around) and Pakistan. Not because they are exceptionally vicious or clever, but because they are less likely to be caught or even noticed in such countries.

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Saka rated as worst England player :20hospitals:

They played him at wing back ? Twats

Think Southgate may have run his course.

There’s plenty of attacking talent in that side so to struggle to score goals is daft


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https://www.espn.com.sg/soccer/uefa-nations-league/story/4752710/england-relegated-in-nations-league-after-loss-to-italy

Saka rated as worst England player :20hospitals:

I started to get excited when I read in the article below that one describing "the imperious Marquinhos". But of course that is not our Marquinhos :sad4: :laughing7: :laughing7:

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Arsenal women 1 up against the spudettes.


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Arsenal women 1 up against the spudettes.

Got a second close to half time.


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Bernard wrote:
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Arsenal women 1 up against the spudettes.

Got a second close to half time.

One way traffic, 4 with 20 minutes to go.


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Got a second close to half time.

One way traffic, 4 with 20 minutes to go.

Finished 4-0. Apparently we broke a record with eight clean sheets in the women’s league. If that is the case, it’s across two seasons.


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Post #552532  Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:14 pm 
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https://www.espn.com.sg/soccer/uefa-nations-league/story/4752710/england-relegated-in-nations-league-after-loss-to-italy

Saka rated as worst England player :20hospitals:

They played him at wing back ? Twats

Think Southgate may have run his course.

There’s plenty of attacking talent in that side so to struggle to score goals is daft

Saka is more than capable of filling in a number of positions but you can get dragged down to the general mediocrity of the play. Crazy that anyone would criticise Saka for not having a stella game playing at left wing back when he thrives as a right winger. That and having the turgid Maguire as his left sided CB....

England play Maguire, Dier, Walker as CB - none of them are good ball playing CB so we struggle to progress the ball quickly. Southgate should be picking his most technically able players, if he wants a back 3 go with White, Stones, Guehi. Get Chilwell in as a proper left wing back, James/Trent on the other side and play Foden and Saka either side of Kane with Rice and Bellingham in the centre of the park. Personally I'd pick that team minus the extra CB and bring in another central midfielder. You could have a pair of 8's like Arsenal deploy and use Bellingham and Maddison/Foden


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Post #552533  Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:42 pm 
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Bernard wrote:
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What is this man made of?? The finest porcelain.

It’s strange. In his last three season at Atletico Madrid he must have been verging on injury free. In 2017/18 he played 33 La Liga games; in 2018/19 he played 32 La Liga matches; in 2019/20 he played 35 La Liga games. Over the three seasons he also played 38 cup games.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/thomas- ... ler/230784

Here is Partey's injury history. In his 5 years at Atletico he only missed 6 games through injury. He didn't seem to be first choice in his 1st two seasons but from 17/18 season he was all but ever present


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Rich wrote:
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They played him at wing back ? Twats

Think Southgate may have run his course.

There’s plenty of attacking talent in that side so to struggle to score goals is daft

Saka is more than capable of filling in a number of positions but you can get dragged down to the general mediocrity of the play. Crazy that anyone would criticise Saka for not having a stella game playing at left wing back when he thrives as a right winger. That and having the turgid Maguire as his left sided CB....

England play Maguire, Dier, Walker as CB - none of them are good ball playing CB so we struggle to progress the ball quickly. Southgate should be picking his most technically able players, if he wants a back 3 go with White, Stones, Guehi. Get Chilwell in as a proper left wing back, James/Trent on the other side and play Foden and Saka either side of Kane with Rice and Bellingham in the centre of the park. Personally I'd pick that team minus the extra CB and bring in another central midfielder. You could have a pair of 8's like Arsenal deploy and use Bellingham and Maddison/Foden


I just don’t think at any point the England side should ever play 3 at the back with wing backs. it’s never worked as it involves 5 players who play for different clubs forming a very cohesive defensive unit and it nearly always involves a talented winger being shoe horned into one of the wide positions.

Just a shite idea and going by that team selection it looks like Southgate hasn’t learned from the final defeat when they should have gone for the jugular. It’s the Mike Bassett movie joke really where they joke about changing the formation all the time.


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Post #552535  Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:34 pm 
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Tierney gone off with concussion in the Scotland v Ireland game.

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Hmm. Can see this developing badly on Tuesday then.

Fears that Partey could miss the north London derby have been eased after a member of the Black Stars’ medical team issued a positive update on the Arsenal midfielder’s fitness.

Journalist George Addo Junior posted on Twitter that he had received an update from a member of the Ghana medical team stating that 29-year-old was left out of the Black Stars’ game against Brazil as a ‘precaution’.

The tweet read: “A member of the Black Stars medical team has confirmed to me Partey’s exclusion was only precautionary.

Partey felt uncomfortable around his knee and was advised to pull out. He should be ready for Tuesday’s game.”

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Who knows what to believe?

After further talks between Arsenal and Ghana today it’s been decided Thomas Partey will return to London, rather than stay with the national team for the rest of the break.

Arsenal felt that was the better option, given he wasn’t go to play against Nicaragua on Tuesday anyway.

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dec wrote:
Tierney gone off with concussion in the Scotland v Ireland game.

Concussion presumably (and hopefully) won’t keep him out for the Tottenham game a week away. Scotland have a game on Tuesday away against Ukraine? Will concussion today keep him out of that?

EDIT: The Evening Glasgow Times wrote the following.

“Tierney seemed adamant he could continue in the Nations League clash but it appeared he was told he would be coming off by physios.

The full-back was visibly disappointed to be forced off with head injury protocols appearing to take the decision out of his hands.“

If he wanted to continue and it was the physios who come off with the current head injury protocols as they are, I wouldn’t have thought it would keep Tierney out of the Tottenham match next Saturday.


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Bernard wrote:
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Tierney gone off with concussion in the Scotland v Ireland game.

Concussion presumably (and hopefully) won’t keep him out for the Tottenham game a week away. Scotland have a game on Tuesday away against Ukraine? Will concussion today keep him out of that?

Yes. I presume he will be out of the next Scotland game but should be OK for us next weekend.

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Just reading up on it and the minimum period for return to play after concussion is 6 days. He obviously wouldn't be able to train for a few days either, so he might very well be a doubt for the Tottenham game.

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Just reading up on it and the minimum period for return to play after concussion is 6 days. He obviously wouldn't be able to train for a few days either, so he might very well be a doubt for the Tottenham game.

Six days time is next Friday. I’d like to think he will be okay to play against Tottenham. Not being able to train presumably doesn’t mean he has to stay in bed until Friday. I would hope there’ll be physical activities he can do that’ll keep him fit for next Saturday. And if he has Friday to train fully.


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Bernard wrote:
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Just reading up on it and the minimum period for return to play after concussion is 6 days. He obviously wouldn't be able to train for a few days either, so he might very well be a doubt for the Tottenham game.

Six days time is next Friday. I’d like to think he will be okay to play against Tottenham. Not being able to train presumably doesn’t mean he has to stay in bed until Friday. I would hope there’ll be physical activities he can do that’ll keep him fit for next Saturday. And if he has Friday to train fully.

It's not really about fitness, but more about participation in tactical preparation for the game. I'd guess he will be able to play alright.

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Can we just do away with international football already :laughing7:

Partey gets injured, Tierney concussion, that div Southgate plays Saka out of position in a loss affecting his confidence,


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Tomiyasu has withdrawn from the Japan squad & will not feature in their friendly against Ecuador on Tuesday due to ‘club circumstances’, suggesting that Arsenal requested his leave from the national team.

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Tomiyasu has withdrawn from the Japan squad & will not feature in their friendly against Ecuador on Tuesday due to ‘club circumstances’, suggesting that Arsenal requested his leave from the national team.

Strange one. Very strange considering that other players are not being released from their international squads. Wonder what’s behind it?

The transfer window has closed so it can’t have anything to do with him wanting to leave or Arsenal wanting to sell. So why?


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dec wrote:
Just reading up on it and the minimum period for return to play after concussion is 6 days. He obviously wouldn't be able to train for a few days either, so he might very well be a doubt for the Tottenham game.

I don't like that 'minimum'.

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Who thought of Orange and Black as an Irish strip?

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Just reading up on it and the minimum period for return to play after concussion is 6 days. He obviously wouldn't be able to train for a few days either, so he might very well be a doubt for the Tottenham game.

I don't like that 'minimum'.

Wouldn’t be worried about it. I imagine they had to pick a number of days and chose six as a minimum. The Tottenham game is in seven days from the incident.


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Who thought of Orange and Black as an Irish strip?

It's not the first time they've worn it but it looks weird. That blue kit they had against Qatar was bizarre too.

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dec wrote:
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Who thought of Orange and Black as an Irish strip?

It's not the first time they've worn it but it looks weird. That blue kit they had against Qatar was bizarre too.


I can see no reason why the shorts would have been green. It would have looked ok. But Black? And that strip against Qatar was very weird.

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I don't like that 'minimum'.

Wouldn’t be worried about it. I imagine they had to pick a number of days and chose six as a minimum. The Tottenham game is in seven days from the incident.

I hope so. I don't fancy facing Spurs sans Partey.

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Wouldn’t be worried about it. I imagine they had to pick a number of days and chose six as a minimum. The Tottenham game is in seven days from the incident.

I hope so. I don't fancy facing Spurs sans Partey.

You’re getting confused. The number of days recovery refers to concussion as possibly incurred by Tierney. Partey injuring himself warming up is another story.

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Tierney gone off with concussion in the Scotland v Ireland game.

No doubt ..head butted by Willie John or kicked in the bollocks by Tony O'Reilly .
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Tierney gone off with concussion in the Scotland v Ireland game.

No doubt ..head butted by Willie John or kicked in the bollocks by Tony O'Reilly .
Be Jasus ; I've followed the underhand misadventures of the doity Oirish pl**cks since 1959 .


:sign19:

Ok, on behalf of those interested, I'll ask:

What's a pl**ck??

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No doubt ..head butted by Willie John or kicked in the bollocks by Tony O'Reilly .
Be Jasus ; I've followed the underhand misadventures of the doity Oirish pl**cks since 1959 .


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Ok, on behalf of those interested, I'll ask:

What's a pl**ck??

Good question, john. You could additionally ask, who the pl**ck are Willie John and Tony O'Reilly?

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We’ve wrecked our economy so that middle aged white people could have a moment to display their xenophobia’s

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We’ve wrecked our economy so that middle aged white people could have a moment to display their xenophobia’s

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-63031372


Not quite. That's an effect.

The cause is the likes of Crispin Odey and other shadowy figures in the financial world. This is the real reason for Brexit. The xenophobia was the tool they exploited to win the vote.

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john1 wrote:
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We’ve wrecked our economy so that middle aged white people could have a moment to display their xenophobia’s

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-63031372


Not quite. That's an effect.

The cause is the likes of Crispin Odey and other shadowy figures in the financial world. This is the real reason for Brexit. The xenophobia was the tool they exploited to win the vote.

When does the realisation happen when they understand this thing will eat through everything we have and they can’t lie about it anymore ?

Economic growth, our currency and even the construct of the UK. It destroys it all.

It’s become so tiresome reading about the damage we are doing to ourselves.


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Not quite. That's an effect.

The cause is the likes of Crispin Odey and other shadowy figures in the financial world. This is the real reason for Brexit. The xenophobia was the tool they exploited to win the vote.

When does the realisation happen when they understand this thing will eat through everything we have and they can’t lie about it anymore ?

Economic growth, our currency and even the construct of the UK. It destroys it all.

It’s become so tiresome reading about the damage we are doing to ourselves.


We're not the ones doing the damage.

But voting Tory at the next election will mean you are responsible for letting them get away with it.

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john1 wrote:
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When does the realisation happen when they understand this thing will eat through everything we have and they can’t lie about it anymore ?

Economic growth, our currency and even the construct of the UK. It destroys it all.

It’s become so tiresome reading about the damage we are doing to ourselves.


We're not the ones doing the damage.

But voting Tory at the next election will mean you are responsible for letting them get away with it.

When Truss is re elected in 2 years it will be the strangest feeling. A nation unable to help itself move forward. Totally controlled by the media and bought politicians


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