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Post #532241  Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:58 am 
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More speculation today about an Arsenal move for Chelsea's Tammy Abraham. Initial loan with £40m obligation to buy.

Can't see it myself, just like I cant see the logic of the interest in Sheff Utd's Aaron Ramsdale, not at £20m+ anyway.

Nevertheless, these links persist.


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Post #532242  Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:03 am 
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I genuinely don’t understand how it’s gonna work. I mean football aside most people are going to catch this thing over the next few weeks, all of us. Only a matter of time even if you are careful

Is that right? There have been 5.5 million confirmed cases in the UK so far, most of whom have ‘recovered’.

It’s a scary leap to think that in a few weeks 10 times that number will succumb. Currently about 7,000 a day are new cases. I sincerely hope that you are wrong.

I really can’t see another way it will unfold. We are what getting around 30 to 50 thousand new infections a day ? Seems to be increasing an increasing.

I’ve lost a relative to it and also known people had it who are now perfectly fine so the introduction of the vaccine will help massively but they were saying around 40% of hospitalisations currently have had 2 jabs anyway ?

If you have had 2 jabs and have had it the chances of getting again are reduced so it may get better eventually but in the meantime I don’t really understand how premier league games are likely to be unaffected if you have 3/4 players from the 2 teams involved in the game sidelined by covid


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Post #532243  Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:23 am 
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More speculation today about an Arsenal move for Chelsea's Tammy Abraham. Initial loan with £40m obligation to buy.


Nevertheless, these links persist.

Really odd link and it seems to have substance behind it.

The only way it makes sense is if they know one of our senior strikers is leaving. Even with Nketiah going you still have 4 solid striker options which seems plenty.

Who’s going ?


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socrates wrote:
More speculation today about an Arsenal move for Chelsea's Tammy Abraham. Initial loan with £40m obligation to buy.

Can't see it myself, just like I cant see the logic of the interest in Sheff Utd's Aaron Ramsdale, not at £20m+ anyway.

Nevertheless, these links persist.

Morning Soc
These bizarre links continue to persist as you say.
What with Ramsdale and Abrahams. No thanks to both.
The only way i can see Abrahams having any chance of happening is if we sold Lacazette and Eddie which would just leave us with Aubameyang and Balogun..... Oh my days i forgot all about Martinellii!! who could also play up front.
Just brainless to bring in Abrahams when you havent sold Lacazette and or Eddie.
I certainly wouldnt want another Chelsea cast off albeit a younger version coming in to block the pathway of Martinelli and Balogun.
Does Balogun sign that contract if he thinks someone like Abrahams is being brought in???
ffs lets give game time to Martinelli and Balogun rather than bringing in someone externally.
Their celings are much higher than Tammy Abrahams.


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TOP GUN wrote:
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More speculation today about an Arsenal move for Chelsea's Tammy Abraham. Initial loan with £40m obligation to buy.


Nevertheless, these links persist.

Really odd link and it seems to have substance behind it.

The only way it makes sense is if they know one of our senior strikers is leaving. Even with Nketiah going you still have 4 solid striker options which seems plenty.

Who’s going ?

Surely two strikers have to be leaving to even comprehend this Abrahams foolishness?
Even if 2 left Aubameyang , Martinelli and Balogun should be enough for a season with no European football??


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Post #532246  Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:42 am 
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Really odd link and it seems to have substance behind it.

The only way it makes sense is if they know one of our senior strikers is leaving. Even with Nketiah going you still have 4 solid striker options which seems plenty.

Who’s going ?

Surely two strikers have to be leaving to even comprehend this Abrahams foolishness?
Even if 2 left Aubameyang , Martinelli and Balogun should be enough for a season with no European football??


If they also sell Willian they may need Martinelli to cover wide left a bit more.

For what it’s worth I don’t think Abraham’s is a bad option up front to perform a squad role.

Up front Aubameyang, Abraham’s, Balogun

Wide Saka, Martinelli, Pépé

Sell Nketiah and Lacazette to generate 37 million quid to sign a midfielder


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Is that right? There have been 5.5 million confirmed cases in the UK so far, most of whom have ‘recovered’.

It’s a scary leap to think that in a few weeks 10 times that number will succumb. Currently about 7,000 a day are new cases. I sincerely hope that you are wrong.

I really can’t see another way it will unfold. We are what getting around 30 to 50 thousand new infections a day ? Seems to be increasing an increasing.

I’ve lost a relative to it and also known people had it who are now perfectly fine so the introduction of the vaccine will help massively but they were saying around 40% of hospitalisations currently have had 2 jabs anyway ?

If you have had 2 jabs and have had it the chances of getting again are reduced so it may get better eventually but in the meantime I don’t really understand how premier league games are likely to be unaffected if you have 3/4 players from the 2 teams involved in the game sidelined by covid

It’s not around 30 to 50 thousand infections a day. It’s around 7,000.

I can’t see how we are going to go from 5.5 million people to pretty well everybody in a few weeks.

And yes it is seriously scary. And I am taking every possible reasonable precaution.

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long time gooner wrote:
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I really can’t see another way it will unfold. We are what getting around 30 to 50 thousand new infections a day ? Seems to be increasing an increasing.

I’ve lost a relative to it and also known people had it who are now perfectly fine so the introduction of the vaccine will help massively but they were saying around 40% of hospitalisations currently have had 2 jabs anyway ?

If you have had 2 jabs and have had it the chances of getting again are reduced so it may get better eventually but in the meantime I don’t really understand how premier league games are likely to be unaffected if you have 3/4 players from the 2 teams involved in the game sidelined by covid

It’s not around 30 to 50 thousand infections a day. It’s around 7,000.

I can’t see how we are going to go from 5.5 million people to pretty well everybody in a few weeks.

And yes it is seriously scary. And I am taking every possible reasonable precaution.



It’s not 7000 is it ? 294k in the last 7 days

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases


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long time gooner wrote:
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I really can’t see another way it will unfold. We are what getting around 30 to 50 thousand new infections a day ? Seems to be increasing an increasing.

I’ve lost a relative to it and also known people had it who are now perfectly fine so the introduction of the vaccine will help massively but they were saying around 40% of hospitalisations currently have had 2 jabs anyway ?

If you have had 2 jabs and have had it the chances of getting again are reduced so it may get better eventually but in the meantime I don’t really understand how premier league games are likely to be unaffected if you have 3/4 players from the 2 teams involved in the game sidelined by covid

It’s not around 30 to 50 thousand infections a day. It’s around 7,000.

I can’t see how we are going to go from 5.5 million people to pretty well everybody in a few weeks.

And yes it is seriously scary. And I am taking every possible reasonable precaution.


Hi ltg,

It's around 40-50k testing positive a day at the moment.

Hospitalisations are still relatively low but even if you have had both jabs and don't get hospitalised you could still end up with a moderate to nasty flu-like illness and who know about the possible long covid issues even to those who are symptomless or have relatively mild symptoms.


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I’m wrong about Covid numbers. I read the 7 day average of 47,438 as being the total figure across the 7 days, as opposed to it being a figure per day.

I have to say that despite lots of scrutiny I do find the various Covid stats obscure and conflicting to say the least.

Even allowing for say 50,000 per day it seems improbable that we would go from 5.5 million to everybody in just a few weeks.

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Hi ltg,

It's around 40-50k testing positive a day at the moment.

Hospitalisations are still relatively low but even if you have had both jabs and don't get hospitalised you could still end up with a moderate to nasty flu-like illness and who know about the possible long covid issues even to those who are symptomless or have relatively mild symptoms.

Hi to you too. You are absolutely right about that. Scares me somewhat, especially the (many) unknown bits.

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It’s not 7000 is it ? 294k in the last 7 days

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases

Sadly so. None of it good at all.

Makes the concept of freedom day and crowded events seem even more bizarre.

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I’m wrong about Covid numbers. I read the 7 day average of 47,438 as being the total figure across the 7 days, as opposed to it being a figure per day.

I have to say that despite lots of scrutiny I do find the various Covid stats obscure and conflicting to say the least.

Even allowing for say 50,000 per day it seems improbable that we would go from 5.5 million to everybody in just a few weeks.

Sorry everybody is an exaggeration I’d say a lot. I have kids of school age and it’s only a matter of time till one of them brings this into our house.

I know several people now who have had double jabs but have had it, said it’s not too bad essentially a cold in most cases. However someone else I know vocally opposed the vaccine for her and her daughters and is now bed ridden with covid.

Stay safe, believe in the vaccine and take precautions I’d say LTG. My initial comment was more along the lines that If the match day squads and staff account for about 100 odd people per game then for the next 6 months or so I don’t understand how we will be able to avoid several absences if 1 in 8 people in the UK has this thing.


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Stay safe, believe in the vaccine and take precautions I’d say LTG.

Spot on. Vaccinations done a while ago. All reasonable precautions ongoing.

Seems to me that (other than vaccinations) the situation hasn’t changed since the beginning of last year. All that changes is the number of people who intermingle.

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We are now being linked to Jordan Henderson.

This is great we are literally signing every player in the league. This one would make a bit of sense if your are selling Xhaka.


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Lot of Covid-related doom and gloom at the moment but we should understand that the pretty alarming case numbers are heavily weighted towards the youth, young adults, the vulnerable and the un-vaxed.

The statistic that should be of most interest to those of us hereabouts who are of a certain age is that if you're double-jabbed and don't have existing health issues, you have very little to fear.


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I know several people now who have had double jabs but have had it, said it’s not too bad essentially a cold in most cases. However someone else I know vocally opposed the vaccine for her and her daughters and is now bed ridden with covid.


I also know a few fully jabbed-up people ('seniors', one and all) who have contracted Covid recently. One, who got it for the second time, had no symptoms at all, another had symptoms which she thought were hay fever while the others reported cold-like to mild-flu reactions. None were particularly spooked by the experience.

I have one friend in her late '50s who has a heart condition. She is an ex-nurse indeed she ran a Care Home but she won't take the vax. There are no cultural or religious reasons; she just doesn't want to be jabbed. To be fair, she lives her life very carefully but her views make no sense whatever. Her circle of friends have given up trying to convince her. It is her choice but we all fear the worst.


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Liverpool sell Grujic for £10.5m and Awoniyi for £6.5m. £17m for a pair that a lot of Liverpool fans won't have even heard of and we're scrapping around to get £15m for Xhaka.

We must find ways of selling better. We've lacked that blockbuster sale that most of the other big clubs have and we lack the ability to sell fringe players for good money


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We are now being linked to Jordan Henderson.

This is great we are literally signing every player in the league. This one would make a bit of sense if your are selling Xhaka.

No Thanks. 2 years left on his deal, 31 years old, this is the time Liverpool are (rightly) considering selling as they'll look to get the maximum price for a player who is likely to only decline from here.


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I know several people now who have had double jabs but have had it, said it’s not too bad essentially a cold in most cases. However someone else I know vocally opposed the vaccine for her and her daughters and is now bed ridden with covid.


I also know a few fully jabbed-up people ('seniors', one and all) who have contracted Covid recently. One, who got it for the second time, had no symptoms at all, another had symptoms which she thought were hay fever while the others reported cold-like to mild-flu reactions. None were particularly spooked by the experience.

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A mate of mine has it and is isolating at the moment, just said it’s a very light cold and currently in his back garden jacuzzi listening to music with a cold drink. Doesn’t sound the worst thing I have to say.

I think a problem with this rotten thing is the fact it isn’t an issue for some people leading to complacency and conspiracy nonsense etc

Now we have the vaccine just a case of being sensible for another 12 months.

Personally I’m desperate for a *%^@*** holiday but can’t deal with the aggro for the time being. When normality resumes I’m desperate to get out to Florida and sit by the water with a cold modelo


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We are now being linked to Jordan Henderson.

This is great we are literally signing every player in the league. This one would make a bit of sense if your are selling Xhaka.

No Thanks. 2 years left on his deal, 31 years old, this is the time Liverpool are (rightly) considering selling as they'll look to get the maximum price for a player who is likely to only decline from here.


Not sure, Liverpool usually offer a degree of pragmatism if the player has been a good servant. 2 year contract might make sense if they offered a logical fee like 5-8 I’ve always been impressed by his professionalism.


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No Thanks. 2 years left on his deal, 31 years old, this is the time Liverpool are (rightly) considering selling as they'll look to get the maximum price for a player who is likely to only decline from here.


Not sure, Liverpool usually offer a degree of pragmatism if the player has been a good servant. 2 year contract might make sense if they offered a logical fee like 5-8 I’ve always been impressed by his professionalism.

I doubt Henderson would want just a 2 year deal with us when that is effectively what he currently has at Liverpool and can play Champions League. No chance Henderson leaves for £5-8m in my opinion. Club captain, premier league and champions league winner with 2 years left on his contract - they'll want £30m because it would cost £30m to replace him. If Arsenal were in a similar position and could only get £5-8m for a similar player you'd want us to just keep him until he's 33 and let him go for free. Selling for £5-8m wouldn't make sense.
Liverpool are very good sellers, they got £20m for Solanke and £23m for Brewster as well as the ones I posted earlier which included a player who they signed for £400k, never even got a work permit for Liverpool and they sold him to Berlin for £6.5m. They'd do us no favours in the fee if we really did want him.


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Depressing and kind of scary.

Just back from playing at my tennis club. One player there who ‘follows’ Arsenal and knows that I do says to me “So Arsenal have signed some more players then”.

He follows this up with “two more black ones”.

I say “is that a problem?” and he replies “Well no, but….”

I say “What do you mean but?” and he replies “Well it would be nice to have a mix.”

Good grief!!!

Racism alive and well in Sussex.

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Here's a good stat for you. In terms of premier league goals per 90 minutes played last year Pépé had a better scoring rate than Bruno Fernandes and Son.

He finished last year strongly, I think we should want him to hit 10 goals and 10 assists this year, first choice wingers should be Pépé and Saka. If he can get 30 starts he should be aiming for those figures.


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Depressing and kind of scary.

Just back from playing at my tennis club. One player there who ‘follows’ Arsenal and knows that I do says to me “So Arsenal have signed some more players then”.

He follows this up with “two more black ones”.

I say “is that a problem?” and he replies “Well no, but….”

I say “What do you mean but?” and he replies “Well it would be nice to have a mix.”

Good grief!!!

Racism alive and well in Sussex.

Suggest you find a better class of tennis club LTG.


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Depressing and kind of scary.

Just back from playing at my tennis club. One player there who ‘follows’ Arsenal and knows that I do says to me “So Arsenal have signed some more players then”.

He follows this up with “two more black ones”.

I say “is that a problem?” and he replies “Well no, but….”

I say “What do you mean but?” and he replies “Well it would be nice to have a mix.”

Good grief!!!

Racism alive and well in Sussex.

Very sad LTG and exactly why Racism will never ever go away.
What an absolute c***.


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According to the Athletic, Arsenal have withdrawn from their preseason US tour due to Covid 19 cases at the club.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theathleti ... MW%3famp=1

Heading to America in the middle of a global pandemic to play a couple of friendlies was not exactly the smartest plan.

Have to remember that there were no summer tour games last year due to Covid. So this year's summer tour games had to have been quickly put together over 8-9 months. Guessing of course.

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Hazuki wrote:


Looks like Lokonga is due to be announced soon.


Just been formally announced on Arse.com:

https://www.arsenal.com/news/welcome-sambi-lokonga-joins-arsenal

"Albert will wear the No 23 shirt and have the name Sambi on the back"

Or maybe have "Bertie" on the back. No reflection on Queen Victoria of course. :angel8:

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Depressing and kind of scary.

Just back from playing at my tennis club. One player there who ‘follows’ Arsenal and knows that I do says to me “So Arsenal have signed some more players then”.

He follows this up with “two more black ones”.

I say “is that a problem?” and he replies “Well no, but….”

I say “What do you mean but?” and he replies “Well it would be nice to have a mix.”

Good grief!!!

Racism alive and well in Sussex.

A mix of what per se. Thing is a few players are mixed race. Doesn't matter at all really what they are.

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Depressing and kind of scary.

Just back from playing at my tennis club. One player there who ‘follows’ Arsenal and knows that I do says to me “So Arsenal have signed some more players then”.

He follows this up with “two more black ones”.

I say “is that a problem?” and he replies “Well no, but….”

I say “What do you mean but?” and he replies “Well it would be nice to have a mix.”

Good grief!!!

Racism alive and well in Sussex.

Very sad LTG and exactly why Racism will never ever go away.
What an absolute c***.

I fear that you are right. Quite astonishing and the person is so far removed from a stereotypical ignorant hooligan. Quite casual and unthinking prejudice. At least they now know what I thought about that. Probably won’t change a thing though.

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Read later that a few players were asymptomatic as well. A cancellation fee may have to be paid though. Rumours that Inter may withdraw due to Covid and Delta variant concerns in Florida. Also a cancellation fee would be imposed. If that happens, an MLS side could be substituted but only for one game as the MLS season is ongoing now.
Not a good start at all financially.


I genuinely don’t understand how it’s gonna work. I mean football aside most people are going to catch this thing over the next few weeks, all of us. Only a matter of time even if you are careful

So out of 25 players say plus 10-15 staff for a match day ? Surely they are going to have issues separating people affected by this and many league matches could be at risk.

Don't think anything was mentioned as to how many players or staff were impacted. Makes sense to cancel tour as precautionary. Need fit and healthy players for season start up.

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... When normality resumes I’m desperate to get out to Florida and sit by the water with a cold modelo
Make mine a hot model.

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Told we need to increase our 3rd offer to 32 million for ramsdale.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/footbal ... s-rejected

Seems crazy money and you can’t make head or tail of the logic involved.

They are either selling Leno or we are giving them fringe players in exchange or at a reduced rate to offset the cost. If people are questioning the white fee they won’t get this. Plus he’s another revoting Englishman


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Told we need to increase our 3rd offer to 32 million for ramsdale.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/footbal ... s-rejected

Seems crazy money and you can’t make head or tail of the logic involved.

They are either selling Leno or we are giving them fringe players in exchange or at a reduced rate to offset the cost. If people are questioning the white fee they won’t get this. Plus he’s another revoting Englishman

Even more nuts when you consider that we had Martinez.

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There are a few prem clubs interested in Maitland-Niles, this is where we really need to play them off against each other and get a big fee. Every other club would be putting a £40m price tag on the kid. Played for England, only 23 and can play multiple positions. There are not many full England internationals at that age who would be valued at less.
The only way to really generate good funds from sales is to sell to fellow prem clubs, the rest of europe are looking at loans with options to buy or are scrapping around with silly low bids.


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Told we need to increase our 3rd offer to 32 million for ramsdale.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/footbal ... s-rejected

Seems crazy money and you can’t make head or tail of the logic involved.

They are either selling Leno or we are giving them fringe players in exchange or at a reduced rate to offset the cost. If people are questioning the white fee they won’t get this. Plus he’s another revoting Englishman

I would love to know the thinking behind Arteta and Edu even contemplating spending that sort of money on a bang average keeper like this.
What on earth do they see in this guy???
I really do question their sanity if they would be prepared to spend even 20 million on Ramsdale.
Just winds me up thinking of it.
Just beggars belief.


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Post #532277  Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:43 pm 
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david.d wrote:
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Told we need to increase our 3rd offer to 32 million for ramsdale.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/footbal ... s-rejected

Seems crazy money and you can’t make head or tail of the logic involved.

They are either selling Leno or we are giving them fringe players in exchange or at a reduced rate to offset the cost. If people are questioning the white fee they won’t get this. Plus he’s another revoting Englishman

I would love to know the thinking behind Arteta and Edu even contemplating spending that sort of money on a bang average keeper like this.
What on earth do they see in this guy???
I really do question their sanity if they would be prepared to spend even 20 million on Ramsdale.
Just winds me up thinking of it.
Just beggars belief.


Can’t see us paying that money. Surely 25 at most.

He is highly thought of by Bournemouth fans though and was their player of the season when he was there. He’s also at the moment the most likely successor for Pickford in the England team and only 23 which is very young for a keeper. How bad can he be.


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Post #532278  Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:16 pm 
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david.d wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Told we need to increase our 3rd offer to 32 million for ramsdale.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/footbal ... s-rejected

Seems crazy money and you can’t make head or tail of the logic involved.

They are either selling Leno or we are giving them fringe players in exchange or at a reduced rate to offset the cost. If people are questioning the white fee they won’t get this. Plus he’s another revoting Englishman

I would love to know the thinking behind Arteta and Edu even contemplating spending that sort of money on a bang average keeper like this.
What on earth do they see in this guy???
I really do question their sanity if they would be prepared to spend even 20 million on Ramsdale.
Just winds me up thinking of it.
Just beggars belief.


James gunnerblog said they like that “he’s quite good with his feet” is he? Prem experience. And I suppose young and homegrown completes the square equalling £30M+ apparently.

What’s somewhat ironic is Leno was literally touted as a ball playing keeper especially compared to Čech. Remember Leverkusen trolling Čech on Twitter after one of his dodgy displays with the ball at his feet? I think that’s seen an area of weakness for Leno that could be improved on in the market.


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Read an article we are having trouble selling Lacazette. Even in the low 20s. He's 28 so its pretty much now or never. I like him though. I like him probably a wee bit more than the average gooner. Now, I don't know if he can fit into Arteta's set up but as a player, I like him.

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Post #532280  Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:56 am 
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Ash wrote:
david.d wrote:
I would love to know the thinking behind Arteta and Edu even contemplating spending that sort of money on a bang average keeper like this.
What on earth do they see in this guy???
I really do question their sanity if they would be prepared to spend even 20 million on Ramsdale.
Just winds me up thinking of it.
Just beggars belief.

James gunnerblog said they like that “he’s quite good with his feet” is he? Prem experience. And I suppose young and homegrown completes the square equalling £30M+ apparently.

What’s somewhat ironic is Leno was literally touted as a ball playing keeper especially compared to Čech. Remember Leverkusen trolling Čech on Twitter after one of his dodgy displays with the ball at his feet? I think that’s seen an area of weakness for Leno that could be improved on in the market.

I don’t think Leno is anything like as bad distributing the ball as some do. If some think it’s a weakness, for me it’s a weakness that just isn’t there. That isn’t me saying he’s at a Neuer level. Just that to call it a weakness is not only an exaggeration, it’s grossly over the top.

Look, I’ve no idea what Ramsdale is really like. I’ve said a few times that the only games I watch these days are those involving Arsenal. Unless a player does something eye catching against us, either good or bad, I’m unlikely to notice him. But however good, bad or indifferent Ramsdale is, I think the criticism of Leno’s distribution is basically unfair.


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