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3rd bid made for Martinez. Man U are linked and would be a genuine threat given Ten Hag was his last boss, but Man U have just had a bid accepted for a left back. But maybe they can give Martinez more assurances on game time whereas for us he might be 1st choice back up in 2-3 positions

He is not a left back though. Who knows what type of formation Man Utd will employ next season? Ajax were very attack-focused but quite exposed at the back. It remains to be seen whether or not Ten Hag will set Man U up the same way. I'd say one of his main priorities will be to find a centre-back partnership that works.

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I read a piece on spending to stand still. It is relevant to spurs and Chelsea and to some extent Liverpool. Spurs have two loan players they need to spend £75m to make the deals permanent this year or the next. Chelsea have lost two CB for free and Liverpool have had to double the money they received for Mané to try to replicate what he gives them.

Save for Lacazette we’re in a position to hopefully just push on from last year without having to take any backwards or sideways steps/spend


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News breaking that Gabriel Jesus move has fell through because club doctors diagnosed Human papillomavirus infection (HPV). He will now have to go back to city.

This just isn’t our week. Not sure what happens now.

I presume you are having us on, because all I get when I google is variants "Jesus healed me of the clap"

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If this is anything to go by, more the highest bidder and player choice obviously.

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Uh oh

News breaking that Gabriel Jesus move has fell through because club doctors diagnosed Human papillomavirus infection (HPV). He will now have to go back to city.

This just isn’t our week. Not sure what happens now.

I presume you are having us on, because all I get when I google is variants "Jesus healed me of the clap"


serious unfortunately.

Isn’t it highly infectious ? If he used the toilet or facilities he could have passed this to Edu or other staff. Our bad luck is incredible


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serious unfortunately.

Isn’t it highly infectious ? If he used the toilet or facilities he could have passed this to Edu or other staff. Our bad luck is incredible

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Few of us told by an ex share holder earlier. It’s not public. Media hasn’t caught on yet as the City PR team are working out how to dress it up.


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Few of us told by an ex share holder earlier. It’s not public. Media hasn’t caught on yet as the City PR team are working out how to dress it up.

I’m hoping that this is not true. Fingers crossed.

If it is true then it won’t be a secret for very long.

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Few of us told by an ex share holder earlier. It’s not public. Media hasn’t caught on yet as the City PR team are working out how to dress it up.

I’m hoping that this is not true. Fingers crossed.

If it is true then it won’t be a secret for very long.


It is true unfortunately

Need to keep searching on Google for “Jesus has caught HPV”


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long time gooner wrote:
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Few of us told by an ex share holder earlier. It’s not public. Media hasn’t caught on yet as the City PR team are working out how to dress it up.

I’m hoping that this is not true. Fingers crossed.

If it is true then it won’t be a secret for very long.


He's winding you up ltg.


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socrates wrote:
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I’m hoping that this is not true. Fingers crossed.

If it is true then it won’t be a secret for very long.


He's winding you up ltg.

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TOP GUN wrote:
long time gooner wrote:
I’m hoping that this is not true. Fingers crossed.

If it is true then it won’t be a secret for very long.


It is true unfortunately

Need to keep searching on Google for “Jesus has caught HPV”


Ok
Top of list are:

"Jesus healed me of HPV"
(in our case, the worry is that the opposite would happen)

Then
"HPV Vaccine Decision-Making and Acceptance"
"Jesus Christ: His Person, His Message, His Credentials by HPV Nunn"

And of course

"Why Didn't Pence Do the Christian Thing?"

Even throwing 'Arsenal' into the mix doesn't help. Trump would be pleased to know that UVC light is part of the arsenal of treatments to prevent nosocomial infections.

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And it keeps going....


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Decaf wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:

It is true unfortunately

Need to keep searching on Google for “Jesus has caught HPV”


Ok
Top of list are:

"Jesus healed me of HPV"
(in our case, the worry is that the opposite would happen)

Then
"HPV Vaccine Decision-Making and Acceptance"
"Jesus Christ: His Person, His Message, His Credentials by HPV Nunn"

And of course

"Why Didn't Pence Do the Christian Thing?"

Even throwing 'Arsenal' into the mix doesn't help. Trump would be pleased to know that UVC light is part of the arsenal of treatments to prevent nosocomial infections.


I didn’t say the results would bring anything yet. I can only find this amongst other nonsense

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/8504938 ... he-genital


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TOP GUN wrote:
Decaf wrote:

Ok
Top of list are:

"Jesus healed me of HPV"
(in our case, the worry is that the opposite would happen)

Then
"HPV Vaccine Decision-Making and Acceptance"
"Jesus Christ: His Person, His Message, His Credentials by HPV Nunn"

And of course

"Why Didn't Pence Do the Christian Thing?"

Even throwing 'Arsenal' into the mix doesn't help. Trump would be pleased to know that UVC light is part of the arsenal of treatments to prevent nosocomial infections.


I didn’t say the results would bring anything yet. I can only find this amongst other nonsense

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/8504938 ... he-genital

£87.25 seems a bit steep!

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Decaf wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:

I didn’t say the results would bring anything yet. I can only find this amongst other nonsense

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/8504938 ... he-genital

£87.25 seems a bit steep!


Does seem overpriced you can split the cost into 3 instalments though it says


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I imagine most everyone has seen the Arsenal All or Nothing trailer recently.

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TOP GUN wrote:
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£87.25 seems a bit steep!


Does seem overpriced you can split the cost into 3 instalments though it says

This may tempt some forumites (not sure that it cures warts, however):

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/9547838 ... =related-6

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TOP GUN wrote:
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£87.25 seems a bit steep!


Does seem overpriced you can split the cost into 3 instalments though it says

I had no idea these existed.

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R Kelly sentenced to 30 years in prison for sex trafficking women and girls

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R Kelly sentenced to 30 years in prison for sex trafficking women and girls

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-30/ ... /101195544

Was waiting for that chip to fall and it did.

Kelly has this to also contend with.

Keep in mind, Kelly is still facing another federal case out of Illinois, plus a state trial in Minnesota.

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I imagine most everyone has seen the Arsenal All or Nothing trailer recently.

Must admit I haven’t yet. Any good?


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My father was a boxing fan. Some of the best moments as very small boy I had was watching fights on tv with my dad. He was animated, yelling at the tv, cheering, jeering, and my brothers and I ate it up. He was a huge fan of Ali. I thought he was always a fan of Ali but my mother admitted that both he and her were cheering big for Patterson when they fought. My dad was a Deacon at our church. Ali was a moslem, Patterson a Christian. Simple as that for my dad. My mom thought Patterson was handsome, that's the extent of it. Just like she thought Ingemar Johansson was. She chose her favorite boxers by their beauty...lol.

I liked Ali because he was iconic. He may or may not be the greatest heavyweight fighter ever but he is the greatest heavyweight, boxer in general, if that makes any sense.

'I went to New York to win the championship. I wouldn't have gone if I did not think I could win. I was confident. But Ali beat me at my own game.
He did the same thing to Liston. Williams, another big puncher, Ali knocked him out in short order. Terrell, the great jabber, what happened to him? He got outjabbed. And Patterson, the guy with superspeed hands, couldn't match Ali and just stood around and got punched to pieces.
The right hands Ali hit me with just had no business landing—but they did. They came from nowhere. Many times he was in the wrong position but he hit me anyway. Blatt! and the punch connected. I've never seen anyone who could do that. The knockdown punch was so fast that I never saw it.
He has lots of snap, and when the punches land they dizzy your head; they fuzz up your mind. The first time I went down, I wasn't hurt, but I didn't know what had happened.
Suddenly I became aware of the noise and then I saw Ali standing over me, and I figured I was down. So I wheeled around to look at my corner, to find out the count. I kept thinking, was that a right hand he hit me with? So what did he do but hit me with the same punch again in the seventh round and knock me out. I can't believe it, but that's what he did.
He's smart. The trickiest fighter I've seen. He's had 29 fights and acts like he's had a hundred. He could write the book on boxing, and anyone that fights him should be made to read it first.
I did things to Ali that have never been done before. He missed more punches and landed fewer than with all of those other guys he's been in with. I also cut the ring on him, reduced it so consistently that he chose to stand and fight. He's a safety-first fighter, no matter how foolish he looks. And I made him fight. That could have been my worst mistake, making him fight.
I hurt him to the body, but he's tough. You can tell from the way he's put together that he's got pride. The man's a real fighter. Look at the way he acts out of the ring and you can see that. In the ring the guy doesn't show when he's been hurt. Not even the smallest sign, the way most fighters do. He beat me good, but he didn't beat me bad.
There's just no way to train yourself for what he does: the moves, the speed, the punches and the way he changes style every time you think you got him figured. Wendell Newton, my sparring partner, jumped around and he was awkward, but he wasn't Ali. Ali is something else.
I fought middleweights, even smaller men and they weren't as fast. This guy has a style all of his own. It's far ahead of any fighter's around today, so how could those oldtime fighters, you know, Dempsey, Tunney or any of them keep up? Louis wouldn't have a chance—he was too slow. Marciano couldn't get to him, and he would never get away from Ali's jab.
The only one who would have a good chance was Ezzard Charles, a real fast heavyweight who was smart and was perhaps the best combination puncher of them all.'
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Do you think they are waiting until 1 July to announce Jesus. There may be something in his current contract about yearly bonuses.

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Do you think they are waiting until 1 July to announce Jesus. There may be something in his current contract about yearly bonuses.

I wouldn't be too sure about that. I was reading somewhere he has HPV.


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Spurs close to signing Lenglet on loan from Barca and also Richarlison, I’d be intrigued by the fee for Richarlison - I reckon it will be close to £60m. I know a few spurs fans who are not happy with that.


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Do you think they are waiting until 1 July to announce Jesus. There may be something in his current contract about yearly bonuses.

I wouldn't be too sure about that. I was reading somewhere he has HPV.

Yes I read that post as well. But then I remembered the admission by that same person on 7 March 2022 -'just ignore everything I say'. The most coherent post he has ever made. I commend that post to you.

I'll wait until after 1 July 2022, then may get a little more worried.

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Richarlison having a medical at Spurs, £50m plus £10m in add ons

So that’s
Richarlison £50/60m
Bissouma £25m
Romero £40m loan made permanent
Kulesevski £35m loan made permanent (possibly delayed another year)
Perisic free but big wages no doubt
Foster free

Busy window for spurs. Very much a Conte ‘must win now’ window


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Busy window for spurs. Very much a Conte ‘must win now’ window

They're signing good players, and it looks like a hard fight for 3rd/4th place between us, Tottenham and Chelsea. The difference between us and Tottenham though, is that I don't see much of a future with this team - so much revolves around Son and Kane, and they will probably start to decline in a few years.

It seems much more sensible to me to build a squad with an eye on the future rather than going 'win now' when the best you can do 'now' is 3rd place.


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I don’t know about that decline stuff. With the new signings they look to have a bit of strength in depth there now spurs. Certainly with Richarlisom onboard they have options

Kulesevski Was a decent signing and for that money I do wonder if we had a look at him.

Also it is worth pointing out Kane is only 29 next season and his game isn’t based on pace as he’s always been more of a positional target man striker lethal but very good at link up play. There’s no reason he can’t play on a high level for another 4-5 years I’m afraid.

Right now assuming they have signed Richarlison and the other players rich referenced I’m sorry to say I believe they still have the slight edge on us in terms of personnel.


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Should we have looked at Richarlison? Would have been an interesting option.


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Rich wrote:
Richarlison having a medical at Spurs, £50m plus £10m in add ons

So that’s
Richarlison £50/60m
Bissouma £25m
Romero £40m loan made permanent
Kulesevski £35m loan made permanent (possibly delayed another year)
Perisic free but big wages no doubt
Foster free

Busy window for spurs. Very much a Conte ‘must win now’ window

Richarlison and Bissouma are 25. Romero is 24 and Kulusevski is 22. Lenglet is 27. So every single one of them is probably not at their peak yet. We've already seen that Romero and Kulusevski were good signings and on paper, the others look like very good business too. Would we not like to have signed Bissouma and Richarlison this summer?

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Would we not like to have signed Bissouma and Richarlison this summer?

Both would've been good additions, but I haven't seen anyone claim they aren't good signings for Tottenham too?


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Would we not like to have signed Bissouma and Richarlison this summer?

Both would've been good additions, but I haven't seen anyone claim they aren't good signings for Tottenham too?

Isn't the narrative that Tottenham are buying for instant success and not engaging in effective squad building? So thereby criticising Tottenham's transfer business? I listed the ages of the players above. They all have the potential to be at their current levels for the next 4 or 5 years. Most contracts are for 4 years these days anyway so having a team of 22 year olds doesn't mean you will have them for 7 or 8 years, although it obviously helps in terms of potential sale values.

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dec wrote:
Rich wrote:
Richarlison having a medical at Spurs, £50m plus £10m in add ons

So that’s
Richarlison £50/60m
Bissouma £25m
Romero £40m loan made permanent
Kulesevski £35m loan made permanent (possibly delayed another year)
Perisic free but big wages no doubt
Foster free

Busy window for spurs. Very much a Conte ‘must win now’ window

Richarlison and Bissouma are 25. Romero is 24 and Kulusevski is 22. Lenglet is 27. So every single one of them is probably not at their peak yet. We've already seen that Romero and Kulusevski were good signings and on paper, the others look like very good business too. Would we not like to have signed Bissouma and Richarlison this summer?


Honestly I think Bissouma at 29 million would have been a no brainier for us.

I do wonder if we might have dropped to the ball in pursuing a hugely expensive wide player that was unlikely to happen.

We could have signed Bissouma and tielemans for less than the Raphina asking price and transformed the entire middle of our midfield. (I bet Tielemans ends up elsewhere too btw)

Signing Jesus was essential but Vieira feels a bit indulgent and Raphina would feel very indulgent.

Out of our 2 biggest problem areas last year up front and midfield we have only addressed one so far and there seems little links suggesting fixing the other is a priority


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dec wrote:
Isn't the narrative that Tottenham are buying for instant success and not engaging in effective squad building? So thereby criticising Tottenham's transfer business?

That's quite the leap there. Better to engage with what people are actually saying.

What I mean when I say I don't see much of a future with their team is that they don't have that special quality youngster behind Son and Kane - a Saka, Martinelli, Saliba etc. I doubt players like Richarlison and Bissouma become much better than their current level (and I would say the same for Gabriel Jesus) and I don't see Kulusevski becoming that player. You need more than good players to challenge Liverpool and City.

That being said, if one or two of their attacking players can raise their game a level or two, that would be huge for them.


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Rich wrote:
Richarlison having a medical at Spurs, £50m plus £10m in add ons

So that’s
Richarlison £50/60m
Bissouma £25m
Romero £40m loan made permanent
Kulesevski £35m loan made permanent (possibly delayed another year)
Perisic free but big wages no doubt
Foster free

Busy window for spurs. Very much a Conte ‘must win now’ window


Bissouma :1cry:

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still no announcement eh! funny that.

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still no announcement eh! funny that.

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You can see from the way he's walking that something is up, he doesn't look comfortable



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