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Post #547521  Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 7:20 am 
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This article suggests we could see Bellerin back at Arsenal next season. As I said before, if we’re legally obliged to pay him £110k a week (his Arsenal salary), that could make it difficult to sell him if the only reason for him accepting £58k at Betis was being a lifelong fan.

https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... dium=email

If he only has a year to run I’d imagine Arsenal would be willing to selling him for a nominal fee like 5-8 million.

He never struck me as a type obsessed by money like an Özil. I would imagine he will go as it feels easier to reach a compromise as it’s not like he’s on 350k a week and won’t get half elsewhere.


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The other issue is, were we picking up the balance of his wages. I would not be surprised if we were as that is normal practice.

Everything I’ve read says it was with Özil. He was on £350k a week at Arsenal. Up to the point his contact expired, we allegedly paid 90% of that whereas Fenerbahce paid him the other 10%.

So his move apparently saved Arsenal £35k a week for six months. Big deal. The saving was peanuts.


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Post #547523  Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:08 am 
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The other issue is, were we picking up the balance of his wages. I would not be surprised if we were as that is normal practice.

Everything I’ve read says it was with Özil. He was on £350k a week at Arsenal. Up to the point his contact expired, we allegedly paid 90% of that whereas Fenerbahce paid him the other 10%.

So his move apparently saved Arsenal £35k a week for six months. Big deal. The saving was peanuts.

Quite a lot of money to save if the player isn’t involved at all. Better off keeping 35k than nothing


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Post #547524  Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:18 am 
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New kits out. Don’t really like it

Martinelli wears 11 next year.


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Post #547525  Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:24 am 
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Great gesture of the club to give 5 pounds to charity for every shirt sold.

However The cost of the shirt is 100 quid. Just the shirt. 100 quid. :8surprise:


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New kits out. Don’t really like it

Martinelli wears 11 next year.

Allegedly our third kit will be pink with black trim.

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Great gesture of the club to give 5 pounds to charity for every shirt sold.

However The cost of the shirt is 100 quid. Just the shirt. 100 quid. :8surprise:

And we seem to take every opportunity not to play in red.

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So his move apparently saved Arsenal £35k a week for six months. Big deal. The saving was peanuts.

Quite a lot of money to save if the player isn’t involved at all. Better off keeping 35k than nothing

Wouldn’t call it quite a lot of money to save. Better than nothing is what I’d call it.


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Post #547529  Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 9:43 am 
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Great gesture of the club to give 5 pounds to charity for every shirt sold.

However The cost of the shirt is 100 quid. Just the shirt. 100 quid. :8surprise:


£100 is a disgrace TG.

Football was once as a working class game, a game for the people. Now imagine a one parent family or a family close to the breadline (as many are now) and how are they supposed to buy their kid(s) an Arsenal shirt.


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Great gesture of the club to give 5 pounds to charity for every shirt sold.

However The cost of the shirt is 100 quid. Just the shirt. 100 quid. :8surprise:


£100 is a disgrace TG.

Football was once as a working class game, a game for the people. Now imagine a one parent family or a family close to the breadline (as many are now) and how are they supposed to buy their kid(s) an Arsenal shirt.


How can it cost that much? What’s it made out of princess Dianas minge or something ?

Buy yourself a Versace bathrobe instead.

Actually I’ll offer my middle child that instead. He may well bite knowing him.


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Post #547532  Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 10:23 am 
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2022-2023 Arsenal kit.

Middle one seems cool though.

How many bags of sand is that one.


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Honestly for 42 million we should tell them to do one but this one doesn’t seem to be going away.

Also being offered a couple of less than impressive players in return doesn’t appeal at all.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/19/arsenal- ... 5zhpy96w9t


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Honestly for 42 million we should tell them to do one but this one doesn’t seem to be going away.

Also being offered a couple of less than impressive players in return doesn’t appeal at all.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/19/arsenal- ... 5zhpy96w9t

Super. We’ve started a build process so let’s remove one of the key components. :20hospitals:

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Honestly for 42 million we should tell them to do one but this one doesn’t seem to be going away.

Also being offered a couple of less than impressive players in return doesn’t appeal at all.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/19/arsenal- ... 5zhpy96w9t

Super. We’ve started a build process so let’s remove one of the key components. :20hospitals:


I can’t believe the club would want to sell. He’s a major component of our side looking more compact.

I could understand why he might want to play there but a fee of 42 million would be ridiculous. He’s only 24 so he’s not even in his prime yet and has 3 years on his contract to run. We would be *%^@*** stupid to sell for such a small fee. No offer less than the Pépé fee should be even considered


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TOP GUN wrote:
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Super. We’ve started a build process so let’s remove one of the key components. :20hospitals:


I can’t believe the club would want to sell. He’s a major component of our side looking more compact.

I could understand why he might want to play there but a fee of 42 million would be ridiculous. He’s only 24 so he’s not even in his prime yet and has 3 years on his contract to run. We would be *%^@*** stupid to sell for such a small fee. No offer less than the Pépé fee should be even considered



The only way we sell Gabriel is if Arteta and the club have identified someone they feel is significantly better and, more to the point, can get him.

I think it's possible to upgrade on Gabriel but very difficult without CL football as part of the attraction. It would probably have to be some emerging kid from Portugal or South America who we have identified as a future superstar but, let's be honest, it's easier said than done.

That said, I am not yet convinced that Gabriel and White will be our longterm CB partnership.


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I can’t believe the club would want to sell. He’s a major component of our side looking more compact.

I could understand why he might want to play there but a fee of 42 million would be ridiculous. He’s only 24 so he’s not even in his prime yet and has 3 years on his contract to run. We would be *%^@*** stupid to sell for such a small fee. No offer less than the Pépé fee should be even considered



The only way we sell Gabriel is if Arteta and the club have identified someone they feel is significantly better and more to the point can get him.


You are probably right about this.

Similar to Leno - Ramsdale scenario where you have a perfectly adequate player but visualise a massive upgrade and a risk worth taking.


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2022-2023 Arsenal kit.

Must admit I really like the home shirt. But why would it be £100? That can’t be right.


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How can it cost that much? What’s it made out of princess Dianas minge or something ?

It’s probably made in some Far East sweatshop for a pittance.


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That said I love the retro shirts.

The Merch stand has a centenary yellow shirt from the 80s that I see when I leave the ground. Not a fan of wearing colours but I may have to splurge


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When my boys were much younger they just loved the cheap black T shirts for sale on Gillespie Road. Stuff like The Flying Dutchman etc.

You could get a lot of those for the cost of the upcoming home shirt.

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Perhaps the signing of Jesus is going to be more complicated than some people may have thought? The Metro says Arsenal may consider alternatives in light of City’s £55m asking price.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.u ... 73358/amp/


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Post #547543  Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 4:25 pm 
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Perhaps the signing of Jesus is going to be more complicated than some people may have thought? The Metro says Arsenal may consider alternatives in light of City’s £55m asking price.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.u ... 73358/amp/

Cogmans law of negotiating

They start high you start low and you meet in the middle after a compromise


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https://www.football365.com/news/arsena ... -e30m-star

Looks like the Melo deal could be back on......


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https://www.football365.com/news/arsenal-restart-negotiations-juventus-gunners-ready-improve-offer-e30m-star

Looks like the Melo deal could be back on......

Doesn’t strike me as the transformational midfielder we need

If he came alongside another tier 1 midfield baller to add variety. Fine

On his own would be a bit meh

In a swap for Gabriel… well I’d be positively livid. *%^@ that regime change etc etc


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Seasons over so my end of season forum awards

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How bizarre
Villa and Burnley played each other 12 days ago.
Now they are playing their 2nd league game tonight.
Has that ever happened that 2 teams have played both their fixtures against each other so close together in the same month???
Anyone know why?
It's not like any of them have been involved in Europe or gone that far in Cup competitions.


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Like I said it’s done. Enjoy Sundays game. Have an extensive pre match lunch and drinks, don’t focus on the game. Pre match beers on me in block 133 (if I’m there in time) for those in Ireland and Australia please imagine it virtually.

I sit in 133. Wonder if we’ve seen each other without knowing?

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Like I said it’s done. Enjoy Sundays game. Have an extensive pre match lunch and drinks, don’t focus on the game. Pre match beers on me in block 133 (if I’m there in time) for those in Ireland and Australia please imagine it virtually.

I sit in 133. Wonder if we’ve seen each other without knowing?

Likely , although my arrival time is varied.

If I think about it I’ve probably met a few Forumites down the years without knowing. Been to European finals, away games, home games I’ve even been to after speaking events. Bit weird really


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Must admit I really like the home shirt. But why would it be £100? That can’t be right.


It's only last season (I think) that a standard fan equivalent shirt was abouit £65, and a 'matchday' shirt, apparently 'as worn by the players' was the one that was £100.

Still, I guess we all want better players and we have (somehow) to pay for that.

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How can it cost that much? What’s it made out of princess Dianas minge or something ?

It’s probably made in some Far East sweatshop for a pittance.


And it's plastic.

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Seasons over so my end of season forum awards

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Like I said it’s done. Enjoy Sundays game. Have an extensive pre match lunch and drinks, don’t focus on the game. Pre match beers on me in block 133 (if I’m there in time) for those in Ireland and Australia please imagine it virtually.


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Like I said it’s done. Enjoy Sundays game. Have an extensive pre match lunch and drinks, don’t focus on the game. Pre match beers on me in block 133 (if I’m there in time) for those in Ireland and Australia please imagine it virtually.


What about us in Liverpool? (There's more than me - I think!! :) )

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Zed wrote:
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Long sleeves. For me that's proper Arsenal. Also what happened to the good old blue and gold as a 2nd away kit?

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Long sleeves. For me that's proper Arsenal. Also what happened to the good old blue and gold as a 2nd away kit?

Hi Gunfire,
Second kit looks more black with bronze lettering. So no blue/gold then. Not sure about that collar on the home kit, but whatever.

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Like I said it’s done. Enjoy Sundays game. Have an extensive pre match lunch and drinks, don’t focus on the game. Pre match beers on me in block 133 (if I’m there in time) for those in Ireland and Australia please imagine it virtually.


What about us in Liverpool? (There's more than me - I think!! :) )

Wow never knew you were there bro

Btw great city for a night out…. Not sure about living :laughing7: just joking

Scousers get tons of respect from me btw. I know you aren’t one but I do enjoy their disdain for establishment

Also I’m ashamed to say scouse the food is *%^@*** delicious. Come at me freaks, try it and tell me I’m wrong


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Looking more and more likely that Evertons fate may be in our hands.

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What about us in Liverpool? (There's more than me - I think!! :) )

Wow never knew you were there bro

Btw great city for a night out…. Not sure about living :laughing7: just joking

Scousers get tons of respect from me btw. I know you aren’t one but I do enjoy their disdain for establishment

Also I’m ashamed to say scouse the food is *%^@*** delicious. Come at me freaks, try it and tell me I’m wrong


You're not wrong about Scouse the food - it's great. (As long as it's made with lamb and not beef as some heathens claim). Btw, it's actually a Welsh recipe (although the Vikings a la Hazuki make some random claim to it as well), and Liverpool is as much (if not more) a Welsh city as an Irish one.

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Looking more and more likely that Evertons fate may be in our hands.


I'm in Liverpool, and it's funny watching both sides at the moment. My other half's family is mainly Red, with a few Blues so matchdays are quite entertaining.

The idea though that Everton will be up for it at our place is laughable; they've been rubbish all year and the appointment of fat Frank was a joke.

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Honestly for 42 million we should tell them to do one but this one doesn’t seem to be going away.

Also being offered a couple of less than impressive players in return doesn’t appeal at all.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/19/arsenal- ... 5zhpy96w9t

Why do our players never get linked to moves away with absolutely enormous fees attached to them. Ake went for £40m. Obviously someone writing the report or leaking a story just puts a figure on it but why isn’t the figure £70m. If you don’t want to sell a player and he’s on a long contract, young and pretty good hen the price should be huge.


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