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Post #398841  Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:12 pm 
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After the Newcastle game Calum Wilson was interviewed with Joe Willock and came out and said the squad had supported Joe because he’d been subjected to racist abuse online.

3 black players missed penalties for England and immediately racially abused. Go and see what Tyrone Mings wrote to Priti Patel after that happened after she condemned the taking of the knee

It’s worse in other countries. Football still has a racism problem.

To suggest that in some way, probably unconscious bias, that a young black player is treated differently to a young white player…..or that a player from Arsenal is treated differently from a player from a non big 6 team (for example) or that a player from the most successful London team might be treated differently than a player from a northern team (London in itself being a lightening rod for many working class people from the north) - I don’t think it’s far fetched - or certainly not as far fetched he’d as confidently proclaiming there is no issue with any of these things that may cause bias at all!

I really do think the Arsenal London vs the north thing has a lot of weight to it. People still put a lot of weight in the class system in this country, and it’s ok to punch up but crass to punch down, so many people (particularly in the public eye) fall over themselves to try to persuade people they are in fact working class (our own Prime Minister included) shows the general distaste for those that HAVE, and if there is going to be any club in the prem that represents the gap between the working class north and the elite soft southerners it’s Arsenal. These views percolate so many aspects of society, 90% of refs from northern towns and cities, grown up with these rivalries and bias. It would be naive in the extreme to think their entire being wouldn’t be influenced.


Nearly all the abuse came from outside the UK.

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Post #398842  Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:13 pm 
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He’s writing for the Daily “hurrah for the black shirts” Mail ! :laughing7:

Whilst he may not be intentionally racist he’s planting his flag to make cash off a newspaper that tries to divide and had absolute historical links to facism.

There might be an argument he’s unconsciously racist. Imagine if Myles had done what Giggs or Rooney got up to.

Bad celebration Myles nawty, nawty, nawty . Wot a load of absolute bollocks


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Post #398843  Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:58 pm 
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He’s writing for the Daily “hurrah for the black shirts” Mail ! :laughing7:

Whilst he may not be intentionally racist he’s planting his flag to make cash off a newspaper that tries to divide and had absolute historical links to facism.

There might be an argument he’s unconsciously racist. Imagine if Myles had done what Giggs or Rooney got up to.

Bad celebration Myles nawty, nawty, nawty . Wot a load of absolute bollocks


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Post #398844  Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 6:27 pm 
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I like this penalty from Semenyo. He’s a player I like as well. Versatile, strong, great dribbler and really good ball striker.


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Post #398845  Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 6:32 pm 
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Defoe comes across quite well as a pundit. I think he did a stretch as a striker coach for some teams.
He just made a point about spurs doing ‘too much running’ which is far more interesting to listen to his explanation and analysis than tired cliche stuff based around mentality and attitude.


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Post #398846  Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:15 pm 
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Just seen a clip of some of Ben White’s play last year, particularly his link up play going forward - we’ve really missed him. Earlier in the season I said I thought Timber would be the better RB, I based it on his better 1v1 defending and really liked his bulldozing forward runs….but I think I was definitely being unfair to White - hes much better in the final 3rd than Timber, and probably his general football technique is better. Timber suits the defensive full back role v a tricky winger (which is where White has struggled a bit) really looking forward to having him back.


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Post #398847  Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:19 pm 
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On the basis that Martinelli will miss the next prem game Trossard is the only outfield player who has been available for every prem game this season.
Liverpool have had Robertson, Van Dijk, Macallister, Gravenberch, Salah, Gakpo, Diaz all available for every game…..and Slobaszlai only missed one game


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Son looks a shadow of the player he was. Surely he must realise he wasted the best years of his career at Spurs. It always annoyed me how both him and Kane weren’t courted more by big teams when we had a period of any good player being taken from us


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Found this interview with Ange really interesting. Recently his interviews have been too downbeat, this is a manager protecting his players and people should listen.

Ange isn’t blameless because I do think he has had chance to alter the style and coach some off the ball work and defensive structure but he is right to defend the players and talk about the burnout of having to have exactly the same players play 3 games a week with little rotation.


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Post #398851  Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2025 8:34 am 
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Gunfire wrote:
Rich wrote:
After the Newcastle game Calum Wilson was interviewed with Joe Willock and came out and said the squad had supported Joe because he’d been subjected to racist abuse online.

3 black players missed penalties for England and immediately racially abused. Go and see what Tyrone Mings wrote to Priti Patel after that happened after she condemned the taking of the knee

It’s worse in other countries. Football still has a racism problem.

To suggest that in some way, probably unconscious bias, that a young black player is treated differently to a young white player…..or that a player from Arsenal is treated differently from a player from a non big 6 team (for example) or that a player from the most successful London team might be treated differently than a player from a northern team (London in itself being a lightening rod for many working class people from the north) - I don’t think it’s far fetched - or certainly not as far fetched he’d as confidently proclaiming there is no issue with any of these things that may cause bias at all!

I really do think the Arsenal London vs the north thing has a lot of weight to it. People still put a lot of weight in the class system in this country, and it’s ok to punch up but crass to punch down, so many people (particularly in the public eye) fall over themselves to try to persuade people they are in fact working class (our own Prime Minister included) shows the general distaste for those that HAVE, and if there is going to be any club in the prem that represents the gap between the working class north and the elite soft southerners it’s Arsenal. These views percolate so many aspects of society, 90% of refs from northern towns and cities, grown up with these rivalries and bias. It would be naive in the extreme to think their entire being wouldn’t be influenced.


Nearly all the abuse came from outside the UK.

https://www.kickitout.org/reporting-statistics
And yet the problem is getting worse in the UK


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If we have indeed 'kept our powder dry' and we are to expect a blow out summer I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect a £200m spend.
The last few seasons net spend is:
23/24 - £10m (2 players in)
22/23 - £150m (4 players in)
21/22 - £150m (8 players in)
20/21 - £120m (6 players in)
I'm not counting loans in these and Raya has gone in the 22/23 figures as it was an obligation loan

23/24 was the first season we could 'use' the Champions League money. Wages have obviously gone up a fair amount in the past few years after they had come down by a lot when Arteta/Edu cleared the decks.

Due to the last 3 transfer windows leaving us short each time it feels like a make or break summer where we have to tidy up the roll over effect of being inactive.

I would say of all the players we likely see as dispensable we could raise maybe £50-70m at best. So on the basis that we need to do a lot and would have £250m on new signings would you (if he were available) commit half of that budget to signing Isak?

My view is a £250m spend is the difficult sweet spot in whether you'd blow half of that on a striker knowing that we also need a defensive mid, a new winger and some cover in other positions because I can see 7 or so first team players leaving this summer. Isak feels like he would really be a game changer for us but because we haven't even plugged other gaps in the last 3 windows and have more gaps to plug in the summer it may be a case of putting all your eggs in one basket.

Sesko is clearly a player the club like, he's Isak-esque but obviously much more raw and untested in our league - but likely half the cost.


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MLS ability to play left back and central mid will be fantastic for us.

The club need to think about Nwaneri because his two positions would appear to be where Saka and Ødegaard play. Given his breakthrough will he get enough time and be happy playing second fiddle to both.

Coming hot on his heels is Max Dowman, only 15 who I think also plays on those right sided midfield positions


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Just none in this case right?

If you want to hear me calling you racist go right ahead, that’s not what I said and I think you know it.

Well what did you mean when you said "Some of us might need to think about whether you are bristling and reacting rather than weighing up what’s happening" because I presume that was aimed at me?


That the denial of racial biases in reporting is an emotional reaction not a considered one. That seems fairly clear.

I give the example of Lewis Hamilton and Raheem Sterling because my own reaction made me reflect. “Well I don’t like him and I’m not a racist” does not mean there is no racial bias in the reporting around him, and forgets the fact that I’ve never met these guys and never will, and my opinion can only be made from “newsworthy” articles about them.


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Some pictures of Saka doing some light training work in Dubai - he's got quite some scar down his hamstring!
if the reports of him being ahead of schedule for early/mid march return are accurate I wonder if the club may not rush him because looking at the fixtures we don't have any games between March 16th and April 1st.
feb 15th Leicester away
feb 22nd west ham home
feb 26th Forest away
mar 4/5th CL round of 16
mar 9th Man U away
mar 11/12th CL round of 16
mar 16th chelsea home
april 1st fulham home

Some huge games in there but we cant afford for him to break down by bringing him back too early


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Rich wrote:
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Nearly all the abuse came from outside the UK.

https://www.kickitout.org/reporting-statistics
And yet the problem is getting worse in the UK

There has been an increase in reports. Doesn't mean the problem is getting worse. It means people are more likely to report. Which is good obviously but not evidence the problem is growing.

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Ash wrote:
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Well what did you mean when you said "Some of us might need to think about whether you are bristling and reacting rather than weighing up what’s happening" because I presume that was aimed at me?


That the denial of racial biases in reporting is an emotional reaction not a considered one. That seems fairly clear.

I give the example of Lewis Hamilton and Raheem Sterling because my own reaction made me reflect. “Well I don’t like him and I’m not a racist” does not mean there is no racial bias in the reporting around him, and forgets the fact that I’ve never met these guys and never will, and my opinion can only be made from “newsworthy” articles about them.

Maybe the proposal that there is a racial bias is an emotional reaction?

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Ash wrote:
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Well what did you mean when you said "Some of us might need to think about whether you are bristling and reacting rather than weighing up what’s happening" because I presume that was aimed at me?


That the denial of racial biases in reporting is an emotional reaction not a considered one. That seems fairly clear.
them.

I didn't interpret it that way at all. I took the "bristling" to suggest an inherent racial bias. So apologies for my sharp response.

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Gunfire wrote:
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https://www.kickitout.org/reporting-statistics
And yet the problem is getting worse in the UK

There has been an increase in reports. Doesn't mean the problem is getting worse. It means people are more likely to report. Which is good obviously but not evidence the problem is growing.


I do take the point you argue but when neither side of the argument can be categorically proven we only have the raw statistics to go on - which show there are more cases of racism at football year on year. The data certainly doesn't show the problem is getting better!

To counter that the problem is getting worse you would have to somehow know that there were MORE instances of racism last year than this year but because so many didn't get reported that the reported figure for last year is less - how would you even know whether there was a racism case if it wasn't reported? There isn't the kick it out figures gained from the police and then another set of figures some random did down the pub finding out all the cases that weren't reported.

To read the report and come to the conclusion that racism in football is a problem that is being solved or is on the decline would be some way to twist and squeeze your way through a 'can't categorically prove its getting worse' loophole.


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Liverpool play 5 times in the league against our next 3 - they'll go from a game in hand to a game ahead. Win all 5 and they'd find themselves at least 12 points in front with only 10/11 games to go.

These next 5 for them will likely decide if they ease to the title or if we stand a fighting chance


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Feels like next summer is going to be us buying the players we wanted to buy last summer.
Joao Garcia as a back up gk for £20m is going to send Arsenal fans in to a spin if he’s signed before we sign a striker!


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Feels like next summer is going to be us buying the players we wanted to buy last summer.
Joao Garcia as a back up gk for £20m is going to send Arsenal fans in to a spin if he’s signed before we sign a striker!

Rich I know you have been a supporter for a long time , so you should know that who we may desire and getting them are a totally different proposition. We may of course make some offer, well short of the selling teams valuation, then fiddle around for most of the transfer period while our number 2 priority is purchased by Chelsea. We will probably run a few transfers thru AMerica
that will take forever. The owners just want CL money and they would prefer not to spend. In the meantime Arteta will determine that most of the available strikers do not fit with his criteria. We will send off/sell off a couple of players but not fill those positions: last year it was Smith Rowe and the striker who I cant recall. Think of the movie Groundhog Day.

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We will send off/sell off a couple of players but not fill those positions: last year it was Smith Rowe and the striker who I cant recall.

Think of the movie Groundhog Day.


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Rich wrote:
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Nearly all the abuse came from outside the UK.

https://www.kickitout.org/reporting-statistics
And yet the problem is getting worse in the UK

That's very worrying.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
Rich wrote:
Feels like next summer is going to be us buying the players we wanted to buy last summer.
Joao Garcia as a back up gk for £20m is going to send Arsenal fans in to a spin if he’s signed before we sign a striker!

Rich I know you have been a supporter for a long time , so you should know that who we may desire and getting them are a totally different proposition. We may of course make some offer, well short of the selling teams valuation, then fiddle around for most of the transfer period while our number 2 priority is purchased by Chelsea. We will probably run a few transfers thru AMerica
that will take forever. The owners just want CL money and they would prefer not to spend. In the meantime Arteta will determine that most of the available strikers do not fit with his criteria. We will send off/sell off a couple of players but not fill those positions: last year it was Smith Rowe and the striker who I cant recall. Think of the movie Groundhog Day.

But the issue of 'good enough' is very important, especially if you don't have oil wealth and the ability to flaunt FFP rules with impunity. If we'd splurged on Watkins, would be have been able to go for someone like Isak or Cesko.

Nketiah needed to be moved along. Nelson probably likewise. Not one you want to be relying on as starter and just OK as a bench option. Even Emile Smith Rowe. I haven't watched Fulham much but my impression is that he's been decent but not pulling up any trees.

You just have to look at how poorly other clubs' striker purchases have turned out (Spuds, Manure, especially) to see the logic behind holding out for the best option.

Groundhog day? Winning the EPL is damnably hard, and supporters of most clubs will be reminded of groundhog Day fairly often. Arteta has put us in a position of being genuine contenders and in my book is likely to make us even better if given sufficient trust and resources.

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Rich wrote:
Some pictures of Saka doing some light training work in Dubai - he's got quite some scar down his hamstring!
if the reports of him being ahead of schedule for early/mid march return are accurate I wonder if the club may not rush him because looking at the fixtures we don't have any games between March 16th and April 1st.
feb 15th Leicester away
feb 22nd west ham home
feb 26th Forest away
mar 4/5th CL round of 16
mar 9th Man U away
mar 11/12th CL round of 16
mar 16th chelsea home
april 1st fulham home

Some huge games in there but we cant afford for him to break down by bringing him back too early



Hi Rich,

Wasn't the hype early last year about a £200m spend last summer. It never happens.

Talk of signing 4 or 5 players and selling 7 or 8 is great in theory but we take months just to get a couple of signings over the line. For example, how long were we chasing Merino for and why?

Arteta talked about making the most of every window and the last few have been dismal. January may be a difficult month but if you can't get one of your big signings done then its a time when you could maybe bring in a couple of players for the future, give them time to settle etc.

Let's hope we spent January putting some summer deals to bed.


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If we have indeed 'kept our powder dry' and we are to expect a blow out summer I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect a £200m spend.
The last few seasons net spend is:
23/24 - £10m (2 players in)
22/23 - £150m (4 players in)
21/22 - £150m (8 players in)
20/21 - £120m (6 players in)
I'm not counting loans in these and Raya has gone in the 22/23 figures as it was an obligation loan

23/24 was the first season we could 'use' the Champions League money. Wages have obviously gone up a fair amount in the past few years after they had come down by a lot when Arteta/Edu cleared the decks.

Due to the last 3 transfer windows leaving us short each time it feels like a make or break summer where we have to tidy up the roll over effect of being inactive.

I would say of all the players we likely see as dispensable we could raise maybe £50-70m at best. So on the basis that we need to do a lot and would have £250m on new signings would you (if he were available) commit half of that budget to signing Isak?

My view is a £250m spend is the difficult sweet spot in whether you'd blow half of that on a striker knowing that we also need a defensive mid, a new winger and some cover in other positions because I can see 7 or so first team players leaving this summer. Isak feels like he would really be a game changer for us but because we haven't even plugged other gaps in the last 3 windows and have more gaps to plug in the summer it may be a case of putting all your eggs in one basket.

Sesko is clearly a player the club like, he's Isak-esque but obviously much more raw and untested in our league - but likely half the cost.


I have a feeling Saliba may depart, especially if its another fruitless season.

That will add more complexity to what will already be a difficult window because you know negotiations with Madrid will drag on and on.


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socrates wrote:
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If we have indeed 'kept our powder dry' and we are to expect a blow out summer I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect a £200m spend.
The last few seasons net spend is:
23/24 - £10m (2 players in)
22/23 - £150m (4 players in)
21/22 - £150m (8 players in)
20/21 - £120m (6 players in)
I'm not counting loans in these and Raya has gone in the 22/23 figures as it was an obligation loan

23/24 was the first season we could 'use' the Champions League money. Wages have obviously gone up a fair amount in the past few years after they had come down by a lot when Arteta/Edu cleared the decks.

Due to the last 3 transfer windows leaving us short each time it feels like a make or break summer where we have to tidy up the roll over effect of being inactive.

I would say of all the players we likely see as dispensable we could raise maybe £50-70m at best. So on the basis that we need to do a lot and would have £250m on new signings would you (if he were available) commit half of that budget to signing Isak?

My view is a £250m spend is the difficult sweet spot in whether you'd blow half of that on a striker knowing that we also need a defensive mid, a new winger and some cover in other positions because I can see 7 or so first team players leaving this summer. Isak feels like he would really be a game changer for us but because we haven't even plugged other gaps in the last 3 windows and have more gaps to plug in the summer it may be a case of putting all your eggs in one basket.

Sesko is clearly a player the club like, he's Isak-esque but obviously much more raw and untested in our league - but likely half the cost.


I have a feeling Saliba may depart, especially if its another fruitless season.

That will add more complexity to what will already be a difficult window because you know negotiations with Madrid will drag on and on.


I fear so too
Just one piece of the puzzle would have solved our season/s. But Arteta continued to be stubborn about it. Deja-vu latter Wenger years when we were always one piece short for a fantastic team.
Hope Arteta's winter window inactivity is preamble to a top class signing in the summer. That might keep Saliba in the team for another season.

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socrates wrote:
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If we have indeed 'kept our powder dry' and we are to expect a blow out summer I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect a £200m spend.
The last few seasons net spend is:
23/24 - £10m (2 players in)
22/23 - £150m (4 players in)
21/22 - £150m (8 players in)
20/21 - £120m (6 players in)
I'm not counting loans in these and Raya has gone in the 22/23 figures as it was an obligation loan

23/24 was the first season we could 'use' the Champions League money. Wages have obviously gone up a fair amount in the past few years after they had come down by a lot when Arteta/Edu cleared the decks.

Due to the last 3 transfer windows leaving us short each time it feels like a make or break summer where we have to tidy up the roll over effect of being inactive.

I would say of all the players we likely see as dispensable we could raise maybe £50-70m at best. So on the basis that we need to do a lot and would have £250m on new signings would you (if he were available) commit half of that budget to signing Isak?

My view is a £250m spend is the difficult sweet spot in whether you'd blow half of that on a striker knowing that we also need a defensive mid, a new winger and some cover in other positions because I can see 7 or so first team players leaving this summer. Isak feels like he would really be a game changer for us but because we haven't even plugged other gaps in the last 3 windows and have more gaps to plug in the summer it may be a case of putting all your eggs in one basket.

Sesko is clearly a player the club like, he's Isak-esque but obviously much more raw and untested in our league - but likely half the cost.


I have a feeling Saliba may depart, especially if its another fruitless season.

That will add more complexity to what will already be a difficult window because you know negotiations with Madrid will drag on and on.


It’s a facet of our growth and being successful that teams will come for our best players. No point getting bent about it. Nobody in their right mind wanted to sign any of the lot that Arteta inherited. “Madrid set to sign Kolasinac” was never going to happen.

Hey if Madrid want to cough up 175 million for saliba that allows us to bring in 3 new attacking players maybe it’s something that should be considered.

The sale of anelka created Henry,
The sale of overmars and Petit brought Pires and Lauren. If that hadn’t happened there wouldn’t have been an invincibles.

However Big Willie is under contract to 2027. Ball is in our court and I wouldn’t rule out Arteta convincing him to stay a bit longer. So far he hasn’t had any issues in convincing our key players to renew their contracts and he does have a pied piper aura to his approach that may convince the player the journey hasn’t yet been completed.


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Post #398871  Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:41 am 
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TOP GUN wrote:
socrates wrote:

I have a feeling Saliba may depart, especially if its another fruitless season.

That will add more complexity to what will already be a difficult window because you know negotiations with Madrid will drag on and on.


It’s a facet of our growth and being successful that teams will come for our best players. No point getting bent about it. Nobody in their right mind wanted to sign any of the lot that Arteta inherited. “Madrid set to sign Kolasinac” was never going to happen.

Hey if Madrid want to cough up 175 million for saliba that allows us to bring in 3 new attacking players maybe it’s something that should be considered.

The sale of anelka created Henry,
The sale of overmars and Petit brought Pires and Lauren. If that hadn’t happened there wouldn’t have been an invincibles.

However Big Willie is under contract to 2027. Ball is in our court and I wouldn’t rule out Arteta convincing him to stay a bit longer. So far he hasn’t had any issues in convincing our key players to renew their contracts and he does have a pied piper aura to his approach that may convince the player the journey hasn’t yet been completed.

One gets the feeling that the players still believe in the project and like each other. That isn't everything but it is a lot.

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Post #398872  Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:54 am 
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This actually isn’t a bad idea from Tim Payton and the “media luvvies” at the AST.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footba ... 10399.html


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Post #398873  Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 5:06 pm 
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dec wrote:
Ash wrote:

That the denial of racial biases in reporting is an emotional reaction not a considered one. That seems fairly clear.
them.

I didn't interpret it that way at all. I took the "bristling" to suggest an inherent racial bias. So apologies for my sharp response.


Also sorry - I wasn’t as clear as I thought I was, this is a highly charged subject prone to being caught up in other politics, so worth trying to be as clear as possible in what we mean.


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Post #398874  Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 5:08 pm 
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Gunfire wrote:
Ash wrote:

That the denial of racial biases in reporting is an emotional reaction not a considered one. That seems fairly clear.

I give the example of Lewis Hamilton and Raheem Sterling because my own reaction made me reflect. “Well I don’t like him and I’m not a racist” does not mean there is no racial bias in the reporting around him, and forgets the fact that I’ve never met these guys and never will, and my opinion can only be made from “newsworthy” articles about them.

Maybe the proposal that there is a racial bias is an emotional reaction?


Wtf are you talking about. Ever.


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Post #398875  Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 5:15 pm 
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Rich wrote:
https://x.com/skysportsnews/status/1888690992649269725?s=46&t=fkwaCrtFB5yR-j6VVZXEoA

Found this interview with Ange really interesting. Recently his interviews have been too downbeat, this is a manager protecting his players and people should listen.

Ange isn’t blameless because I do think he has had chance to alter the style and coach some off the ball work and defensive structure but he is right to defend the players and talk about the burnout of having to have exactly the same players play 3 games a week with little rotation.


You have the snowball effect of injuries compounding themselves, overplaying the few players who are fit. Doesn’t seem fair somehow. If you get injuries you always wish you had a bigger squad! Real Madrid are planning on playing Tchouameni at Centre back and Valverde at full back tonight, but up front there’s noise about having to sell probably Rodrygo to make room!


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Post #398876  Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:18 pm 
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Havertz injured in Dubai :14laughter:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... Dubai.html

You’ve gotta laugh


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Post #398877  Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:21 pm 
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Arsenal’s attacking options for the business end of the season:

•Leandro Trossard
•Ethan Nwaneri
•Raheem Sterling

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Post #398878  Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:23 pm 
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TOP GUN wrote:
Havertz injured in Dubai :14laughter:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... Dubai.html

You’ve gotta laugh


Hamstring issue. He’s been holding the back of his leg at the end of the last two games.


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Post #398879  Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:26 pm 
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Ash wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Havertz injured in Dubai :14laughter:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... Dubai.html

You’ve gotta laugh


Hamstring issue. He’s been holding the back of his leg at the end of the last two games.

Yep. We are playing players into the red because there isn’t the squad to rest them. Martinelli too. Hammy no rest.

Oh well at least we didn’t over pay for Watkins. That would have been an absolute travesty.


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Post #398880  Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:42 pm 
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TOP GUN wrote:
Ash wrote:

Hamstring issue. He’s been holding the back of his leg at the end of the last two games.

Yep. We are playing players into the red because there isn’t the squad to rest them. Martinelli too. Hammy no rest.

Oh well at least we didn’t over pay for Watkins. That would have been an absolute travesty.


Get ready for Calafori at centre forward. It’s what it’s all been working up to.


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