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Post #529561  Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 5:32 pm 
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I didn’t realise Kante is already 30. I’m glad because he’s a massively influential player for Chelsea but is approaching the age (albeit not there yet) when his decline should begin.

Evening Bernard. I thought you might find this interesting, considering our conversation about this matter.

"Incredible performers in high-paying sports are staying on longer. Thirty used to be the normal age for when results began to decline; that seems to have been pushed to 35 for the super-talented."

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/jarr ... et-1263011

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Post #529562  Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 5:34 pm 
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He really is awful. He'll have such a wrong take and be really vociferous about it. I saw him do some brilliant analysis of Leeds early this season against Liverpool, but he's generally miserable, a bit angry and just wrong.


But now I'm on BT and I've got Robbie Savage and Glenn Hoddle!! :idiotMe:

Those two infinitely preferable, which says it all about how awful Jenas is.


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Post #529563  Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 5:39 pm 
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But now I'm on BT and I've got Robbie Savage and Glenn Hoddle!! :idiotMe:

Those two infinitely preferable, which says it all about how awful Jenas is.


Yep!


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Post #529564  Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 5:40 pm 
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What a hit by Tielemans. Leicester played a blinder with him didn't they. They had him on loan for a year first I think?


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How we could do with a player Like tielemans. Stunning strike

Or Maddison or ndidi also for that matter


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Post #529566  Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 5:57 pm 
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Wes Morgan, 37, on for Leicester, a man who looks like he enjoys a pie or two.


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I didn’t realise Kante is already 30. I’m glad because he’s a massively influential player for Chelsea but is approaching the age (albeit not there yet) when his decline should begin.

Evening Bernard. I thought you might find this interesting, considering our conversation about this matter.

"Incredible performers in high-paying sports are staying on longer. Thirty used to be the normal age for when results began to decline; that seems to have been pushed to 35 for the super-talented."

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/jarr ... et-1263011

Isn’t the article about cricket? I’d suggest cricket is a little different to football. Anyway, perhaps I’m wrong but I thought cricketers used to go on for longer anyway.


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How we could do with a player Like tielemans. Stunning strike

Or Maddison or ndidi also for that matter


I was about to write about our midfield but then I got sad...

Things I am looking forward to next year:

No European football - No Sunday Thursday bollocks, Arteta with all the time he could want to coach the team, and hopefully a push up the table accordingly.

Seeing young players play or get their chance - Saliba (finally?) balogun, Martinelli, Saka, Smith-Rowe, hopefully with the paucity of our midfield M-N might get a look in and Willock too. Last chance for them maybe to start to find a place in the squad. Otherwise somewhere from 30-45M for them both.

Arteta with another year under his belt. Surely with his lack of experience the curve upwards should be pretty steep. Hoping to see more from him. I think if we're 8th or lower come December I think that might be it for him if we can get a sensible replacement in.


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Bollox!


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Thank f*ck for VAR.


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Thank f*ck for VAR.

Hilarious :laughing7:


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Post #529572  Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 6:08 pm 
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Absolutely brilliant performance from the Leicester fans. Cheering tackles, laughing at opposition misses etc.


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Post #529573  Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 6:10 pm 
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Congrats Leicester, they are everything we aren’t

Like I said .. 5 or 6


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Post #529574  Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 6:11 pm 
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Chelsea - specialists in FA cup final failure


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Bernard wrote:
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Evening Bernard. I thought you might find this interesting, considering our conversation about this matter.

"Incredible performers in high-paying sports are staying on longer. Thirty used to be the normal age for when results began to decline; that seems to have been pushed to 35 for the super-talented."

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/jarr ... et-1263011

Isn’t the article about cricket? I’d suggest cricket is a little different to football. Anyway, perhaps I’m wrong but I thought cricketers used to go on for longer anyway.

It also notes how tennis player are lasting longer.

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Wes Morgan, 37, on for Leicester, a man who looks like he enjoys a pie or two.

He’s a big lad isn’t he (master of the understatement comment)?


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Thank f*ck for VAR.

Hilarious :laughing7:

Very satisfying.

Schmeichel has been a tremendous servant for Leicester. A couple of top class saves yet again.

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It also notes how tennis player are lasting longer.

Carrying on is not the same as staying at your peak though. Sure, Roger Federer is still playing. He’s now ranked number eight in the world. He used to be number one.


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Well done Leicester!!!!
Must be sickening for Chelsea and their fans celebrating like mad thinking you have saved the final with last minute goal then just whipped away from them with VAR
Hilarious!!!!


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Emotional scenes with the Leicester owner, the manager and the players. Absolutely zero percent chance of Kroenke ever being as involved as that.


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Emotional scenes with the Leicester owner, the manager and the players. Absolutely zero percent chance of Kroenke ever being as involved as that.

Absolutely right, and I can't remember seeing that with Liverpool, Chelsea or anyone else to be honest. The players in most teams don't give a *%^@ about the owner, and rightly so.


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Rumours Bellerin Leno Xhaka Willian all want out.
They have given us good service Willan permitting but anyone who doesnt fancy it can all sod off and leave the rest to fight for the shirt. That midfield needs to be upgraded.
Bissouma and or Berge or Fulhams Anguissa would be good.
Some physical power allied with technicality.
Azeez has to get more games next season.
Let's build around the youngsters with a touch of experience.
Arteta needs to do better next season.
A good summer is needed.
I'd keep Willock and AMN.


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Post #529583  Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 6:38 pm 
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It really was a cracking final though, a reminder of how stale football has become without crowds.


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Post #529584  Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 6:40 pm 
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Bernard wrote:
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It also notes how tennis player are lasting longer.

Carrying on is not the same as staying at your peak though. Sure, Roger Federer is still playing. He’s now ranked number eight in the world. He used to be number one.

And Djokovick is 33.

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Post #529585  Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 6:45 pm 
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Rumours Bellerin Leno Xhaka Willian all want out.

Been thinking about this a lot, and I think it could be a good thing. Watching us crumble time and time again in important matches against teams we should be able to beat has showed our problems go way beyond the technical and tactical. There's something seriously wrong with the mentality of the team, and perhaps a restart built around a core of Gabriel, Tierney, Partey, Saka, Smith-Rowe and Martinelli is the right thing for now. Bring back Saliba and possibly even Mavropanos for central defense, replace Leno and Bellerin and sign a couple of midfielders, and we might come out stronger.

It's not just about the quality of the players included in the rumours. I think Leno is our best keeper since Lehmann, you all know I rate Xhaka, and I agree with those who say Luiz has been a good signing overall. Bellerin has had some really good games this season, and I don't even think Willian is completely finished. But shipping out that chunk of core players might give us a fresh start. Remember when Henry was sold in 2007, our captain and best player. Fabregas then stepped up and made it his team, and we took a huge step forward in 07/08 compared to the previous season.


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Always nice watching Chelsea lose but what a spirited, tigerish and robust performance from Leicester. Wonderful winning goal and those two saves from Kaspar were terrific. Also felt a bit envious when their owner was celebrating on the pitch. They look a really well run club from top to bottom.


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Decaf wrote:
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Carrying on is not the same as staying at your peak though. Sure, Roger Federer is still playing. He’s now ranked number eight in the world. He used to be number one.

And Djokovick is 33.

I bet he doesn’t quite have the fitness he had in his twenties though. Muscle mass in human beings declines from about 30. That’s why players in high energy sports deteriorate in their thirties, although experience should help them. Footballers routinely retire at some point over that decade. And even if they continue playing well into their thirties, they will have kissed their physical peak behind.

I don’t follow tennis but my guess is Djokovic is still number one at 33 because Federer and Nadal are even older, and Murray is around the same age but has had injury problems.


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Daniel EK admits he made an offer for Arsenal

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... eague-club

Kroenke says he doesn’t need the money, nothing about the club just about money. We will go nowhere with this guy


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It really was a cracking final though, a reminder of how stale football has become without crowds.

Haz. With respect despite the spectators, I thought it was a boring final enlivened by a great goal, two memorable saves and VAR drama. The rest was pretty drab. I cannot remember one highlight from the first half.
Anyhow, congratulations to Leicester and I hope they win again Tuesday. F Chelsea.


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Wasn't bothered to watch the final but very happy Leicester won. I'm taking a liking to them. They are winning the right way.

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Looked up FA cup winners. We have a decent record in a final. 14 out of 21. Chelsea actually have a decent record, 8 out of 15. Very surprised at sperz. 8 out of 9 in finals. I didn't know they were that good in finals.

The site I saw it may not have been updated for last night but still its not half bad. I remember not seeing them win a final until they got money.

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Just read an amazing stat on Vardy. He has become the first player ever to feature in every round of the FA Cup. That starts with the preliminary round, 4 qualifying rounds, etc. Quite remarkable.

I am guessing that this excludes the early days of such as Wanderers.

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It really was a cracking final though, a reminder of how stale football has become without crowds.
The FA Cup is still the greatest football competition - it should never be undervalued or marginalised. And it should be played at 3pm on a Saturday.

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Another team in blue worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F43M6P5JHco

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Haz. With respect despite the spectators, I thought it was a boring final enlivened by a great goal, two memorable saves and VAR drama. The rest was pretty drab. I cannot remember one highlight from the first half.
Anyhow, congratulations to Leicester and I hope they win again Tuesday. F Chelsea.

Yeah, I get where you're coming from. It wasn't exactly a highlight fest, but I thought it was a well played game between two good sides. Made better of course by the crowd - I didn't realize how much I've missed the growing buzz when a team is nearing their opponents goal, or the ironic cheers as a player thumps it into row Z.


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It really was a cracking final though, a reminder of how stale football has become without crowds.
The FA Cup is still the greatest football competition - it should never be undervalued or marginalised. And it should be played at 3pm on a Saturday.

Completely agree, Hoy.

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Just read an amazing stat on Vardy. He has become the first player ever to feature in every round of the FA Cup. That starts with the preliminary round, 4 qualifying rounds, etc. Quite remarkable.

I am guessing that this excludes the early days of such as Wanderers.

Speaking of Wanderers, come on Wolves! Time to do your bit for all that is good and decent and put a stick in the Spuds' spokes.

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Fabrizio Romano (rarely gets things wrong) says it is expected that Willian will leave this summer.


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The FA Cup is still the greatest football competition - it should never be undervalued or marginalised. And it should be played at 3pm on a Saturday.


omoh, I may be completely wrong from what I gathered from people such as yourself who have seen many FA cups.

It's still a big event, but I've heard it said it lost a bit of its lustre because of regular televised games. The FA Cup final was one of the few football matches that was on tv and broadcast nationally in the old days, or is that not correct?

Also, just getting to the final for all fans was seen as a great event because they would go to London and be in Wembley. Even for London based clubs it was a huge event. That's what I ascertain from older Brits I've come across starting with the first ones I met in Los Angeles. Even if your club has been to a few (Liverpool, Man Utd), it was always a huge event.

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Just read an amazing stat on Vardy. He has become the first player ever to feature in every round of the FA Cup. That starts with the preliminary round, 4 qualifying rounds, etc. Quite remarkable.

I am guessing that this excludes the early days of such as Wanderers.

Speaking of Wanderers, come on Wolves! Time to do your bit for all that is good and decent and put a stick in the Spuds' spokes.

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