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Post #550401  Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:58 pm 
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Post #550402  Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:58 pm 
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FT 4-2

Another good win. Jesus absolutely electric. Few hiccups at the back but we dominated the chances, 19 attempts on goal today.

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Post #550403  Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:59 pm 
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Well it's been a good week.

3 points for us and the FBI raided Maga Lardo.

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Post #550404  Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:00 pm 
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Hanging around waiting for my flight home from Hols. Flick on bbc sport and oh yes that’s quality.

2 games, 6 points and 6 goals from 2 banana skin fixtures.

Honestly you can’t fault that. Good feeling around Arsenal right now and all of a sudden it’s a bit more fun to be an Arsenal supporter. Incredibly the man United fixture can’t come soon enough right now. Can’t remember the last time I said that.


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Post #550405  Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:01 pm 
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3 more points, yay !

Arsenal is playing beautiful football again :21encouragement:

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Post #550406  Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:40 pm 
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Brentford!!!

De Gea :14laughter:

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Brentford again!!!

De Gea again :22encouragement:

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Post #550408  Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:49 pm 
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Wow Man U are a shambles! 2-0 down after 20 mins

If they go on to lose this I want Sky to do the kind of hatched job they did on us last year


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Post #550409  Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:51 pm 
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Wow Man U are a shambles! 2-0 down after 20 mins

If they go on to lose this I want Sky to do the kind of hatched job they did on us last year

Completely shambolic at the back.

Their 5ft 9in centre back doesn’t seem to have made a calming start. As for Maguire. Wow.

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Post #550410  Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:54 pm 
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It took us until our 8th game last year to score 6 goals. 6 goals in 2 games so far


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Post #550411  Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:56 pm 
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Arteta spoke about the fans and their reaction after Saliba scored the own goal, the fans cheered him and Arteta said he’d never seen anything like it before and it hugely helped Saliba.

The fans have Tielemans a big cheer when he was subbed, he must want the move I’m sure, so that would have been great for him.


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De Gea is finished as a top level GK. He can’t play with his feet - at all! And he stays on his line all the time, it puts his defence under pressure from corners, free kicks and crosses. He has a tendency to go with his feet rather than his hands which also costs goals and doesn’t retain possession.


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Ha ha ha.

3-0 to Brentford. Martinez looking like a very short centre half.

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Rich wrote:
Arteta spoke about the fans and their reaction after Saliba scored the own goal, the fans cheered him and Arteta said he’d never seen anything like it before and it hugely helped Saliba.

The fans have Tielemans a big cheer when he was subbed, he must want the move I’m sure, so that would have been great for him.

It’s so wonderful to have a team that you can support. It wasn’t that long ago that so many turning out for us didn’t feel like ‘us’ at all.

Now they certainly do.

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:15laughter: :15laughter: :15laughter: :15laughter: :15laughter:

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You can’t have so many passengers without the ball in the modern game. Ronaldo, Sancho, rashford, Fernandes. Not one of them offers anything without the ball.

For all that Sancho did in Germany there is a reason Southgate picks Saka so consistently for England.

Eriksen does run but it’s pointless on your own. Fred is nominally the holding mid but he’s bang average - there are at least 20 CM I’d have ahead of him.

And Maguire is not good enough for a top team. There is a clip of Merson laughing at them signing him for £80m because he was good in a 3 and defending his own box….he said you play in a 3 if you’re not trusted. But play for Man U and you’re up on the half way line and Maguire gets done all the time.

Just weak, soft and average all over the pitch. I love it


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The gag was Eric Ten Months. It's looking more like Eric Ten Weeks.

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Rich wrote:
Wow Man U are a shambles! 2-0 down after 20 mins

If they go on to lose this I want Sky to do the kind of hatched job they did on us last year

I think that they will be hard pressed not to do a hatchet job here. Easy pickings.

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I’ll bet that two years ago Brentford fans couldn’t ever have imagined this.

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I’m so glad Man U are getting their comeuppance. It’s pure arrogance and laziness that has them here. Poor recruitment just jumping on the name in the papers. Failure to recognise what modern football required after Fergie. No director of football pushing the identity so they have a mismatch of a team assembled by 5 or so different managers and an unwillingness to face the truth that there is no quick fix and you need to have the pain of a 3 year rebuild.

Thank god we finally understood all this


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I’m so glad Man U are getting their comeuppance. It’s pure arrogance and laziness that has them here. Poor recruitment just jumping on the name in the papers. Failure to recognise what modern football required after Fergie. No director of football pushing the identity so they have a mismatch of a team assembled by 5 or so different managers and an unwillingness to face the truth that there is no quick fix and you need to have the pain of a 3 year rebuild.

Thank god we finally understood all this

It looks like we dodged a bullet by not getting Martinez (assuming that the media reports were correct).

He may well be wondering what he has walked into.

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What an exciting performance today! The goals we let in were a bit sloppy, but I don't think they're the kind we'll concede every week. Going forward we look completely rejuvinated with Jesus up front - he put on an absolute masterclass today. Never stopped running, winning duels, bringing others into play, 2 goals and 2 assists with another good 2-3 chances missed. Absolutely wonderful player to watch. Saka felt like the anonymous one in our attack, and that's a good thing because we already know what he can do.

Very encouraging start to the season, with another couple of very winnable fixtures coming up and Man Utd looking completely dead in the water. Good times.


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At least we had a reasonable excuse against Brentford for last season’s opener with significant absences with covid and injuries. Man Utd’s collapse is in a completely different league.

We must stuff them when we play them soon. We are more than good enough. No inferiority complex this time please.

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Post #550424  Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:36 pm 
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Well it's been a good week.

3 points for us and the FBI raided Maga Lardo.

Sweet.

And United are coming to the party.

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Rich wrote:
I’m so glad Man U are getting their comeuppance. It’s pure arrogance and laziness that has them here. Poor recruitment just jumping on the name in the papers. Failure to recognise what modern football required after Fergie. No director of football pushing the identity so they have a mismatch of a team assembled by 5 or so different managers and an unwillingness to face the truth that there is no quick fix and you need to have the pain of a 3 year rebuild.

Thank god we finally understood all this

It looks like we dodged a bullet by not getting Martinez (assuming that the media reports were correct).

He may well be wondering what he has walked into.

It seems we wanted him as an inverted left back, which may suit him.


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Can’t remember when I’ve seen a better performance from a ‘new’ team. Jesus, Saliba and Zinchenko are all so obviously the real deal. Our recruitment this season has been awesome.


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long time gooner wrote:
Rich wrote:
Wow Man U are a shambles! 2-0 down after 20 mins

If they go on to lose this I want Sky to do the kind of hatched job they did on us last year

I think that they will be hard pressed not to do a hatchet job here. Easy pickings.

I’ll wait until I see Carragher and Neville bouncing along, enjoying themselves and encouraging the Brentford fans at full time….


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Can’t remember when I’ve seen a better performance from a ‘new’ team. Jesus, Salina and Zinchenko are all so obviously the real deal. Our recruitment this season has been awesome.

Hit the ground running as they say.

I was amazed when we paid £72m for Pépé and we had to wait ages for him to appear so that he could ‘get acclimatised’.

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Rich wrote:
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It looks like we dodged a bullet by not getting Martinez (assuming that the media reports were correct).

He may well be wondering what he has walked into.

It seems we wanted him as an inverted left back, which may suit him.

But with Tierney and Zinchenko already in place that wouldn’t seem to be a priority for us.

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Not sure if he’s playing to get away, but Tielemans looked decidedly average. Maybe carrying some timber, too?

Can’t see him getting into today’s team.


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Nice to see us regularly scoring different types of goals now.

For years it seemed like we just scored ‘perfect’ team goals. Now we’re one of of not the best in the league from set pieces, we get the scrappy ones from opponents mistakes and we’re scoring from outside the box. Martinelli’s goal today, hard low accurate shooting from 20 yards. There were quite a few like that last season as well


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I keep hearing pundits and commentators almost exasperated saying ‘these are good players’ or ‘they haven’t become bad players overnight’

Surely it’s about time everyone realised that these Man U players are nowhere near as good as some people think. All over the pitch, fundamental weaknesses in each of them. Call it as it is


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It doesn't matter how badly Man Utd are playing. Whenever they play us they always seem to raise their game for our fixture. Right now I'll actually take a draw. I'm not expecting a win, crazy as that sounds.

On another note, they should have filmed the documentary this season.

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I'm also very fearful of Aubameyang being at Chelsea. I have a gut feeling, he will have a season like RvP did at Man Utd. Just my gut says he'll score in buckets as the season progresses. I hope I'm wrong. It will be interesting what kind of reception he gets when he comes back in a blue shirt.

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Not sure if he’s playing to get away, but Tielemans looked decidedly average. Maybe carrying some timber, too?

Can’t see him getting into today’s team.

I particularly watched Tielemans and after people have spoken about him as a replacement for Xhaka, the latter completely outplayed him. The BBC sport site gave Xhaka 7.6 out of 10, and Tielemans 4.52. These scores out of 10 are as subjective as an opinion can be. But that was at least the difference between them.

You asked whether Tielemans was playing to get away. In the past I’ve heard Leicester fans accuse him of making no effort. Is that really the type of person or character we want at Arsenal? Just at the time when the club’s ownership regime, managerial hierarchy, players and supporters all seem to be pushing in the same direction together?

I’ve said before that Tielemans has been available all summer for £25m. If Arsenal genuinely wanted him, wouldn’t he be on board already? I really don’t go with these ‘having to offload players first’ and ‘homegrown quota’ reasons. How many players do we have to get rid of with Leno, Guendouzi, Mari and Bellerin already out or on their way? Runarsson’s contract can be paid off for a paltry £1.5m or thereabouts.

The more I think about it, the more I reckon it’s feasible that Arteta may not actually fancy him (in a footballing sense).


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Great game. Some exhilarating attack play, especially from Jesus and Martinelli.

Jesus is just so dangerous, his pace and movement, his tenacity and his skills are such a step up from Lacazette.

Martinelli was amazing and looks stronger physically this season, lets see if he can take the league by storm in the way Saka has done.

Saliba recovered really well after the own goal.

We let Leicester back into the game too easily and it still feels like something is missing from that central midfield area. Not sure its Tielemans though.


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Anyone know the story about the group of black-clad ‘ultras’ crammed in, two-to-a-seat at the front under the clock? Maybe 50-80 of them. Not kids. Standing, very loud and animated throughout.

Must be club-sponsored and it really worked. Lifted the place.


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The gag was Eric Ten Months. It's looking more like Eric Ten Weeks.

A day ago, Ten Hag said he could restore the glory days to MU. Today, Tim Howard, former MU GK, claims Ten Hag has has enough time.

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Irregardless of what or how anyone thinks of Willian, there's no excuse for the death threats he and his family are getting from Chelsea and Corinthian fans recently.
He's chosen to leave Corithians to possibly go to Fulham. So what if they sign him. He may do well for them. Alexis Sanchez may do well now at Marseille.

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Ten Hag needs time, we professed that for Arteta so the same must be true of ten Hag. There are endless similarities. Unbalanced squad, overpaid, underperforming, ageing. To an extent, the extent being an FA Cup win, Arteta bought himself time by finding a system (a back 3) which got some results. It was far from his preferred way of playing but it got a few results and allowed him to see who he could trust and who could cut it in our team.

Ronaldo is a huge problem for ten Hag, an Aubameyang size problem(?) I’m amazed they haven’t bought a ball playing defensive mid. They’ve chased de jong but he obviously has doubts about joining them, lower expectations and sign a slightly lesser player who you can mould in to the next de jong. I’d say drop de Gea but the back up is Tom Heaton! I’d say every single position on the pitch has problems for them


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