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Rich · **#392001**

Ash wrote:

Rich wrote:

Scholes think Arsenal are missing the mentality to win the Premier League: “Arsenal are clearly not far away. I think the thing they are missing is that bit of mentality where they can actually go on and do it. I think last year, when you’re going to the league with another team, as we were with City, Liverpool and Arsenal, you have to go to their ground and win in a big game.

“I remember watching the game at the end of last season and City were struggling a bit and Arsenal went there and played for a draw, really, they were delighted with a draw. If you win that game Arsenal win the league, there’s no doubt about that. That momentum was massive. All of a sudden you are killing your main rival, they are gone. It destroys you.

“When I saw the celebrations after that game from Arteta and the players, they were so happy to draw the game and I thought that’s wrong. If you go there at such a vulnerable time for Man City and win, it’s the difference between winning the league and not winning the league.

Just a reminder that City won 9 and drew 2 of the 11 games in the lead up to their home match with us. Definitely struggling a bit though eh Scholes!

Last punditry is the pits in football. Pre determined narrative when the facts don’t back up anything you’re saying

I heard someone else say that, their hot take was not beating city at the Etihad was why we didn’t win the league. Braindead stuff. How can you see Arsenal take 4 points of City and say that’s why you haven’t won the league when you see us drop points in 3 games against Fulham West Ham and arguably Villa that we should have won with better finishing. Desperate for narrative.

.....and that Klopp never beat Pep at the Etihad, Pep has only beaten Klopp once at Anfield and even last year Pep lost to us at the emirates. All facts and logic point to you absolutely NOT having to win at your rivals ground.

Rich · **#392002**

Solanke to Spurs for £65m.....? Not sure he moves the needle for them

AmericanGooner · **#392003**

Rich wrote:

Scholes think Arsenal are missing the mentality to win the Premier League: “Arsenal are clearly not far away. I think the thing they are missing is that bit of mentality where they can actually go on and do it. I think last year, when you’re going to the league with another team, as we were with City, Liverpool and Arsenal, you have to go to their ground and win in a big game.

“I remember watching the game at the end of last season and City were struggling a bit and Arsenal went there and played for a draw, really, they were delighted with a draw. If you win that game Arsenal win the league, there’s no doubt about that. That momentum was massive. All of a sudden you are killing your main rival, they are gone. It destroys you.

“When I saw the celebrations after that game from Arteta and the players, they were so happy to draw the game and I thought that’s wrong. If you go there at such a vulnerable time for Man City and win, it’s the difference between winning the league and not winning the league.

Just a reminder that City won 9 and drew 2 of the 11 games in the lead up to their home match with us. Definitely struggling a bit though eh Scholes!

Last punditry is the pits in football. Pre determined narrative when the facts don’t back up anything you’re saying

Not taking anything the ginger haired pr*ck says regarding us. He hates us and very biased. Fact is the run we went on from January is title winning form. That form has beaten his side a few times. Scholes is very well aware of that.

This City team is like no other. When a team like Liverpool gets almost 100 points and can't win the title it speaks volumes. We are a fine team. Our last two seasons were amazing especially given where we were at the time.

I guarantee you 100 percent had Man Utd had the same exact season we did, he'd be describing them completely different. If City doesn't have an off season by their standards you can't beat them. The season Liverpool won it was an off season for City. When Liverpool won the title in '20 City had 81 points. Of the 6 titles City has won out of 7 in the last 7 years, Man Utd were runners up in both. Did they lack a winning mentality?

Furthermore, the amount of money in the league means the mid and lower table. The pundits and media act like beating City to the title in 2023 is in the same realm of beating Man Utd in 2003.

Rich · **#392004**

Ornstein reporting a deal may be close for Nketiah to Marseille. Possibly as a year loan with obligation to buy for 30m euros - a shade over £25m pounds.

The obligation a year later doesn't help us balance those FFP books by much this year but it is time to cut Eddie loose and £25m for him is good money.

AmericanGooner · **#392005**

Welcome back Xhaka

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1228077685304785

Rich · **#392006**

Chelsea are going to sign Pedro Neto from Wolves. Yet another player - Palmer, Madueke, Sterling, Mudryk all already there and play on the wings - plus probably the countless young players they've signed.

Bonkers strategy I've never seen before

socrates · **#392007**

Chelsea's spending..........how?

socrates · **#392008**

Rich wrote:

Chelsea are going to sign Pedro Neto from Wolves. Yet another player - Palmer, Madueke, Sterling, Mudryk all already there and play on the wings - plus probably the countless young players they've signed.

Bonkers strategy I've never seen before

Would you take a gamble on Mudryk?

dec · **#392009**

socrates wrote:

Rich wrote:

Chelsea are going to sign Pedro Neto from Wolves. Yet another player - Palmer, Madueke, Sterling, Mudryk all already there and play on the wings - plus probably the countless young players they've signed.

Bonkers strategy I've never seen before

Would you take a gamble on Mudryk?

Nope. He's a poor man's Theo Walcott.

TOP GUN · **#392010**

socrates wrote:

Rich wrote:

Chelsea are going to sign Pedro Neto from Wolves. Yet another player - Palmer, Madueke, Sterling, Mudryk all already there and play on the wings - plus probably the countless young players they've signed.

Bonkers strategy I've never seen before

Would you take a gamble on Mudryk?

Not with a ten foot bargepole. Dire player.

Gunfire · **#392011**

socrates wrote:

Rich wrote:

Chelsea are going to sign Pedro Neto from Wolves. Yet another player - Palmer, Madueke, Sterling, Mudryk all already there and play on the wings - plus probably the countless young players they've signed.

Bonkers strategy I've never seen before

Would you take a gamble on Mudryk?

Depends on the price. Has all the attributes to be a very good player but lacks a brain.

Ash · **#392012**

TOP GUN wrote:

socrates wrote:

Would you take a gamble on Mudryk?

Not with a ten foot bargepole. Dire player.

I wish we’d seen him as a 28M pound Brentford player.

Ash · **#392013**

Rich wrote:

Chelsea are going to sign Pedro Neto from Wolves. Yet another player - Palmer, Madueke, Sterling, Mudryk all already there and play on the wings - plus probably the countless young players they've signed.

Bonkers strategy I've never seen before

FFP dodges aside, there seems to be a misunderstanding of how young players value increases. By playing. They won’t play. They got the money for Gallagher because he was playing - relatively - well. But that just means they can only get money for their decent performers. As a talent agency if they loan out players like Maatsen it could work, as a football first team trying to win something it’s mad.

It’s heartening to see it flounder so far, I heard pundits/journalists say football needs the Chelsea project to fail, but football needed the oligarchs and the nation state projects to fail too.. just checked - they’re doing ok.

Well I guess we saw off Abramovic after 20 years, but that did take the odd international sanction or two.

Rich · **#392014**

socrates wrote:

Chelsea's spending..........how?

It’s all very much spending today and will hope tomorrow works out.
By selling Gallagher and Maatsen for about £75m they now in theory could sign £425m worth of players all on 5 year deals as they spread the cost of the £425m across the 5 years meaning in year 1 (now) they break even against the £75m….but the big problem for Chelsea is they need to keep selling £75 worth of academy players every year. It’s just impossible

Rich · **#392015**

Looking at a 25 man squad and the maximum 17 non home grown spaces we're allowed
Gabriel, Zinchenko, Timber, Tomiyasu, Calafiori, Kiwior, Jorginho, Partey, Ødegaard, Vieira, Havertz, Jesus, Trossard - is only 13 players

Home grown players - Raya, Ramsdale, Hein, White, Saliba, Rice, Martinelli, Nketiah, Nelsen - 9 players

That is 23 players. Tierney's future is not yet resolved but Tavares, Lokonga and Marquinos are all out on loan

So before any more sales we've got space for 2 more players and both can be non home-grown. Mikel merino seems certain to be one of those soon.

U21 players can play but don't have to be counted in the 25 man squad - so Nwaneri and Lewis-Skelly come in this category.

Of those 9 home-grown players there are question marks over the future of 4 of them (Ramsdale, Hein, Nketiah, Nelsen) - so we need to keep an eye on buying or developing home grown players to slot in to the first team squad

AmericanGooner · **#392016**

Both Tottenham's and Bournemouths biggest transfer over 60 million quid. Most pundits are saying its a great signing for Sperz. Although some Tottenham fans aren't happy.

Rich · **#392017**

Transfers starting to move now.

De Ligt £45m and Mazaroui £20m both from Bayern to Man U
Wan Bissaka to West Ham for £15m

Solanke has signed for Spurs for £65m

AmericanGooner · **#392018**

The prospective XI Arteta plans to field next week may or may not start as one unit but I'd be surprise if they all didn't feature in this game at some point. I would still like to see younger players get a run out so they can impress and get a place on the bench.

AmericanGooner · **#392019**

Maybe I'm hearing things but their accents sound different. They look working class which I always assumed had a more Dickensian accent. Again maybe I'm assuming things that aren't so.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?mibexti ... r9RPbxsCIY

bubblechris · **#392020**

Salad gets clobbered by defender.

bubblechris · **#392021**

Have you tried the AFC for sound only?

bubblechris · **#392022**

Saliva 1-0

bubblechris · **#392023**

22
David Raya
4
White
17
Zinchenko
2
Saliba
6
Gabriel
41
Rice
5
Thomas
8
Ødegaard
29
Havertz
7
Saka
11
Martinelli
9
Jesus
14
Nketiah
79
A. Heaven
63
E. Nwaneri
59
M. Lewis-Skelly
51
J. Nichols
36
T. Setford
1
Ramsdale
33
R. Calafiori
15
Kiwior
20
Jorginho
24
Nelson
19
Trossard

bubblechris · **#392024**

Saka not salad hot and spicy.

So far it's like a walk in the park. But they need to pace themselves.

bubblechris · **#392025**

Martinelli limping.

bubblechris · **#392026**

BTW Ainsley is playing

bubblechris · **#392027**

AMN not the other one.

bubblechris · **#392028**

Gabriel 2-0 what a header

gooner7 · **#392029**

Easy peasy, may our games in the EPL be just as easy too :42laughter:

socrates · **#392030**

We have to think seriously about that left wing position.

Martinelli was quick, sharp and his movement was excellent. He got plenty of the ball too.

HOWEVER, his end product was terrible.

gooner7 · **#392031**

bubblechris wrote:

Saliva 1-0

Lost your b button?

bubblechris · **#392032**

Good almost assist from Martinelli.....?

Now where's my b for bollocks button. :42laughter:

bubblechris · **#392033**

We really need striker........

So many chances, none taken. What Vollocks :42laughter:

socrates · **#392034**

Havertz has to start thumping some of those chances, at least make the keeper work.

Ash · **#392035**

Partey with a great chance centre of the box puts it wide. Havertz goes a bit wide then weak pass/shot wide of goal. Then a delicious dink cross by Zinchenko I thought the keeper made a wonder save but Saka heads it down onto the foot of the post. We’re creating chances at will. Two set piece goals from our super centre backs the only goals though. Finishing leaving a lot to be desired.

bubblechris · **#392036**

Party playing well alongside Rice?

bubblechris · **#392037**

First sight of our new defender.

bubblechris · **#392038**

We have so much possession so why are we passing back so much?

gooner7 · **#392039**

bubblechris wrote:

We really need striker........

So many chances, none taken. What Vollocks :42laughter:

bubblechris · **#392040**

Anyone else noticed how when the ball goes out Raya gets a ball immediately from a ball boy standing behind the goal?

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