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Post #536841  Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:53 am 
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Klopp trying his best to save OGS's job after reading Rich's post:

Speaking to Sky Sports, Klopp added: "What can I say? Did I expect that? No.

"The result is insane. It is special but we don't celebrate like crazy, we have respect for the opponents.

"We were lucky in some moments, United are not in their best moment."

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Post #536842  Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:05 am 
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Not much mention of the fact that Ronaldo should have been sent off in yesterday's game for a petulant kick out at Curtis when he lay on the floor. For every last minute winner Ronaldo brings I think his signing is doing more damage than good, there are the obvious wages but also you're playing with 10 men when you don't have the ball and he is definitely not a team player ready to encourage others after a mistake. Long may it continue for him.


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Post #536843  Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:21 am 
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Not much mention of the fact that Ronaldo should have been sent off in yesterday's game for a petulant kick out at Curtis when he lay on the floor. For every last minute winner Ronaldo brings I think his signing is doing more damage than good, there are the obvious wages but also you're playing with 10 men when you don't have the ball and he is definitely not a team player ready to encourage others after a mistake. Long may it continue for him.

He’s nearer to his 37th birthday than his 36th. However great he was when younger he’s now basically a past it has been.


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Putting aside the Leeds cup game for the moment, the 4-4-2 worked very well against Villa's 3-5-2 formation, we have Leicester next so there must be the temptation to stick with it again. There are similarities in the two opponents. Both Villa nd Leicester have 3 CB who are good primary defenders but don't excel at bringing the ball out from the back or line breaking passes fizzed in to feet. Against Villa Lacazette cut off the supply line to Luiz the guy who takes the ball from the less able CB and ticks things over, without him Villa were forced to go long to strikers who couldn't beat Gabriel physically and we made sure Partey and Lokonga mopped up second balls. Can we get Lacazette to do a similar job on Tielemans and force longer balls to smaller strikers?


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Post #536845  Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:14 pm 
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You are right. If Wenger had been a money or glory hunter, he would have cashed in at Real or Barca. Top Gun is full of it again. In any case, Wenger is quite right that the international calendar needs reforming.

If Arsene has sold out or not is a matter open to debate but my opinion is no way would he have backed this ridiculous 2 year World Cup idea 8 years ago.

What isn’t up for debate though is that you are a muggy little snide.

No, it isn't snide to say you are full of it. Its simply stating the obvious in a straightforward way. Snide means something else. Look it up. While I am being direct, you are also a disrespectful lout.

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Post #536846  Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:39 pm 
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There’s a thing in football punditry or commentary when a non-world
Class player does something absolutely brilliant the pundit says “if player X (world class player) did that we’d all be raving and fawning over it”
I heard Ian Wright say it about Henderson’s pass to Salah for Liverpool’s 5th. I’d say that these things do get the praise they deserve in the moment, it doesn’t matter what player did it - but if people think it hasn’t been given enough praise it’s probably because the world class players are doing it every single week. Any player can hit the top corner from 30 yards on the odd occasion.


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Post #536847  Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:52 pm 
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Decaf wrote:
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If Arsene has sold out or not is a matter open to debate but my opinion is no way would he have backed this ridiculous 2 year World Cup idea 8 years ago.

What isn’t up for debate though is that you are a muggy little snide.

No, it isn't snide to say you are full of it. Its simply stating the obvious in a straightforward way. Snide means something else. Look it up. While I am being direct, you are also a disrespectful lout.

Snide

All you do is make haughty snarky comments. We call that a snide in our neck of the woods. Give it a rest rather than trying to pass a consistent comment on everything I do. SNIDE.


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Post #536848  Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:41 am 
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Rich wrote:
There’s a thing in football punditry or commentary when a non-world
Class player does something absolutely brilliant the pundit says “if player X (world class player) did that we’d all be raving and fawning over it”
I heard Ian Wright say it about Henderson’s pass to Salah for Liverpool’s 5th. I’d say that these things do get the praise they deserve in the moment, it doesn’t matter what player did it - but if people think it hasn’t been given enough praise it’s probably because the world class players are doing it every single week. Any player can hit the top corner from 30 yards on the odd occasion.


I can't remember where I read it but I read somewhere one of the players say that Bergkamp (and others) do stuff in training that were mesmermizing and far greater than what they did in games. Chips from crazy angles, etc.

I fully believe it because its training, there is no game time pressure, you can experiment in a non pressured way. Its that way in other sports with great players. I used to hear of Michael Jordan doing stuff in training that were simply outrageous even for him. Larry Bird, who some of you may have heard of, would fire off consecutive 3 point shots, so many it would be a record in a game.

One of our great defenders, said they'd just go to the other side of the pitch. Big Tone I think, not sure, but said he would just kick them so as not to get mugged.

Didn't we see a video of Bergkamp at Ajax (was it Ajax) lob a keeper from way out? I can only imagine what the invincibles training sessions were like Henry, Pires, Bergkamp. The game must have been easier to defend for Sol, Keown and the others after what they had to face in training.

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Post #536849  Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:54 am 
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Found it.


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Post #536850  Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:31 am 
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Heard this, this morning

What time is it?
5 past De Gea

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RIP Walter Smith.

Great bloke.

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I think it will be a strong team tonight, I doubt any young players will be involved. We still have a big senior squad and some players need minutes to keep fresh for when they might be needed. That said I wouldn’t be adverse to 1 or 2 young players on the bench, almost as a reward for their progress….but they may not even come on. It would be a good experience


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RIP Walter Smith.

Great bloke.


Slightly embarrassed to say I didn't know who he was but have spent a little bit looking him up. I fancied myself a Rangers fan of sorts, not hard core and should have known he was.

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Some ifs but if Arteta's project fails after this season and Vieira continues to get Palace doing as well as he's been doing, should Vieira be a serious contender for the reigns?

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Music aside, Saliba vs PSG recently


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Some ifs but if Arteta's project fails after this season and Vieira continues to get Palace doing as well as he's been doing, should Vieira be a serious contender for the reigns?


Wot off the back of 1 win and 6 draws for palace !

Or his 2 unimpressive tenures before he took that job. Incredibly this isn’t the daftest suggestion I’ve read.


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If it’s a draw after ninety minutes tonight does anyone know if it goes straight to a penalty shoot out or is there half an hour extra time first?


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Hoping Soton can somehow knock Chelsea out. Maybe Chelsea might field a team too weak. Fingers crossed.

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Post #536859  Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:25 pm 
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Bernard wrote:
If it’s a draw after ninety minutes tonight does anyone know if it goes straight to a penalty shoot out or is there half an hour extra time first?


Yo Bern - this from the rules:

"All matches that end as a draw in the first five rounds will go straight to penalties without the use of extra time."

This is Round 4 apparently so straight to pens. It's live on SKY.


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DHD wrote:
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If it’s a draw after ninety minutes tonight does anyone know if it goes straight to a penalty shoot out or is there half an hour extra time first?

Yo Bern - this from the rules:

"All matches that end as a draw in the first five rounds will go straight to penalties without the use of extra time."

This is Round 4 apparently so straight to pens. It's live on SKY.

Many thanks DHD.


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Post #536861  Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:50 pm 
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Arsenal: Leno, Cédric, Holding, White, Kolasinac, Maitland-Niles, Elneny, Pépé, Smith Rowe, Martinelli, Nketiah

Subs: Ramsdale, Tavares, Chambers, Lokonga, Partey, Saka, Salah-Eddine, Lacazette, Balogun

Interesting line up… Not sure I fancy it.


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So, basically a second string eleven plus White and Smith-Rowe tonight. Leeds are missing a few players as well, but are a lot closer to their first choice eleven. This one might be a bit tricky. But, one thing about Leeds even if they're playing with a complete first choice lineup is that they'll leave themselves exposed at the back. We need to show the same energy and work rate as we did against Villa, Leeds won't sit back and let the game just come to them.


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Don’t like the line up but I’m not sure what other choices you have really. You have to rotate at some point.

Philips up againest AMN and elneny feels a mismatch a bit and I’d have been tempted to start Lacazette for the first 60 rather than go with Nketiah.

Really need Pépé and Martinelli to step up to the plate for this but I don’t think this will be a easy game.

Where’s Ødegaard ?


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Only two possible chances of a trophy this season. This is one of them. A reserve side makes me nervous.

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You really notice how uncomfortable Leno looks with the ball at his feet after watching weeks of Ramsdale


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Intense start, the energy I wanted to see is there it seems.


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Intense start, the energy I wanted to see is there it seems.

Need a bit of quality in the final third to go with the energy.


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Great save by Leno


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Our central midfield is an obvious weakness tonight, can't seem to hold onto the ball or find the right pass


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Looks to me like Emile Smith Rowe needs a rest, he looks shattered.


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Our central midfield is an obvious weakness tonight, can't seem to hold onto the ball or find the right pass

Elneny not at the races. It’s like having ten men.


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Lots of effort from both sides, but not a great deal of quality from either.


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Did Leeds spend £30M on Daniel James??


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Not much mention of the fact that Ronaldo should have been sent off in yesterday's game for a petulant kick out at Curtis when he lay on the floor. For every last minute winner Ronaldo brings I think his signing is doing more damage than good, there are the obvious wages but also you're playing with 10 men when you don't have the ball and he is definitely not a team player ready to encourage others after a mistake. Long may it continue for him.

In the reports I've read it is mentioned a lot. The beeb telegraph and guardian all mention it.

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Counting down the minutes until Partey and Lacazette come on.


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Phillips' haircut would suit a little 6 year old girl.


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Honestly, I'm encouraged by this first half. We lack quality, but that's to be expected with our second string. But the energy, intensity and work rate is all there, and the fact that we follow up the Villa game with a first half like this after changing almost our entire starting eleven may just be a sign that something is starting to click for the team.


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Looks to me like Emile Smith Rowe needs a rest, he looks shattered.

He’s not being helped by having to chase misplaced passes.

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Don't like the tactic of the centrebacks driving into midfield. That naturally causes the two central midfielders to funnel in behind to cover. Also, it makes it harder for Smith-Rowe as passing channels to him are cut-off.

Leeds always leave gaps at the back so early direct passing is the way to play them.

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They are easy targets the Elneny, Cédric and Kolasinac are the weakest links here.
I found it so frustrating how 3 of Leeds most dangerous moments came from our corners where they were allowed to pick the 2nd ball up on their own box and break. Twice with an almost identical move sending James away. We don’t have that man on the edge of our box to pick things up and we don’t have him there for attacking set pieces. I’d be amazed if that exact position isn’t one of the most common places for a ball to drop from a corner.

Feels like if we brought on Tavares, Partey and Lacazette and we’d win this


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