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Author:  Rich [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:13 pm ]
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https://twitter.com/legrove/status/1482 ... 79748?s=21

At last someone in the media talking some sense.

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:20 pm ]
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Leeds Utd are giving it a real good go away at West Ham. Here’s hoping that they get a result.

Author:  Andy Green [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:39 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Leeds Utd are giving it a real good go away at West Ham. Here’s hoping that they get a result.

VAR nonsense. Leeds 4th chalked off. Ridiculous
If WHU beat us by a point to CL place I’ll remember this decision
Probably technically correct but nonetheless horrible

Academic now. Well done Leeds.

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:55 pm ]
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Andy Green wrote:
long time gooner wrote:
Leeds Utd are giving it a real good go away at West Ham. Here’s hoping that they get a result.

VAR nonsense. Leeds 4th chalked off. Ridiculous
If WHU beat us by a point to CL place I’ll remember this decision
Probably technically correct but nonetheless horrible

It was a tough decision, and they’d hit the bar when 3-2 up.

The good news is that they got the win. Happy days.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:00 pm ]
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It’s us v spurs for 4th.

Getting todays game postponed was huge

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:16 pm ]
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Unbelievable. Post match analysis of the Leeds game - Graeme Souness says what a good honest side Leeds are (fair enough) and then uses that as a basis to slag off Arsenal for calling off a game. Talk about a non sequitur. More anti-Arsenal rubbish.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:17 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Andy Green wrote:
VAR nonsense. Leeds 4th chalked off. Ridiculous
If WHU beat us by a point to CL place I’ll remember this decision
Probably technically correct but nonetheless horrible

It was a tough decision, and they’d hit the bar when 3-2 up.

The good news is that they got the win. Happy days.

An annoying decision for a Leeds fan but has to be right in the laws. It hit a Leeds player in an offside position and went in. The laws (as far as I know) don’t allow for any interpretation or subjective view in the case of it hitting an attacker in an offside position

Author:  Rich [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:21 pm ]
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This is what the Mail put out today. They reckon this is an 11 Arsenal could have played v Spurs and ‘proved’ it was worth more than the spurs 11.
A number of points to be made:
The rules aren’t 11 they are 14 with 1 gk
Some players are given their transfer value and others are given current value to suit the agenda of making the arsenal team look more expensive
Skip and winks are chosen ahead of Ndombele (£60m) and Lo Celso (£40m) again to suit the agenda
Mari has to play right back and Patino right wing

When your agenda is so clear it makes the level of journalism an embarrassment

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Author:  Rich [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:23 pm ]
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Jamie Carragher has sarcastically tweeted “all ok for Thursday?” In response to Arsenal getting today’s game called off. The lack of any self awareness is astonishing. Someone needs to ask Carragher why it is Arsenal are even having to play this Thursday at all!

And, Arsenal are simply using the rules to their advantage. Liverpool very clearly cheated the rules. Klopp suggested Liverpool had “lots” of false positive covid results which meant they couldn’t play us when the statistical chance of getting just 3 false positives is 1 in 8 billion

In one sense it’s crazy to see the anti-arsenal bias in the media it has had a galvanising affect for the fan base all pulling in the same direction right now which it hasn’t been for a while. I hope Arteta is using a similar them against us mentality in the dressing room. Showing especially the new players that this is what it’s like when you play for us and use it as motivation to stick it to them by winning games

Author:  Rich [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:27 pm ]
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The league still has a winter break scheduled in. With the amount of games postponed wouldn’t it make more sense to arrange some of those games in the winter break than be forced to cram them in at the back end of the season with teams playing 3 times in a week?

Author:  david.d [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:45 pm ]
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Great weekend for us.
Game postponed.
Utd lose 2 goal lead.
West ham lose!
Great chance for them to go 5 points clear though we would have has 2 games in hand.
Expected them to so Leeds did us a huge favour

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:38 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
It’s us v spurs for 4th.

Getting todays game postponed was huge

I don't think we can discount Man U just yet for 4th. And West Ham, while underdogs, are not to be taken lightly either.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:43 pm ]
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Marseille transfer ban for 2 windows

https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... r-22764490

Basically means guendouzi and Saliba will have to come back

Author:  Rich [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:00 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Marseille transfer ban for 2 windows

https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... r-22764490

Basically means guendouzi and Saliba will have to come back

I think Guendouzi will still have to go there. The contractual situation of the obligation to buy was set prior to this ban. It’s the same kind of situation that allowed Chelsea to buy Kovacic despite their ban

Author:  Bernard [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:00 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
It’s us v spurs for 4th.

Getting todays game postponed was huge

I don't think we can discount Man U just yet for 4th. And West Ham, while underdogs, are not to be taken lightly either.

Bromley, I agree about Manchester United. I’m not ignoring Tottenham’s chances either. West Ham I’m less convinced about, although in Rice they arguably have the country’s second best midfielder after Kante. But I honestly think we’re stronger than them all and if we do sign a top forward this month, I’ll be extremely disappointed if we don’t finish fourth.

Author:  Bernard [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:04 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Marseille transfer ban for 2 windows

https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... r-22764490

Basically means guendouzi and Saliba will have to come back

I think Guendouzi will still have to go there. The contractual situation of the obligation to buy was set prior to this ban. It’s the same kind of situation that allowed Chelsea to buy Kovacic despite their ban

Hope you’re wrong about that Rich, but that’s hope not expectation. I’d love to see Guendouzi back. I simply don’t believe he can be as big a troublemaker as his reputation suggests.

Author:  socrates [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:16 pm ]
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Author:  Zed [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:25 pm ]
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https://dailycannon.com/2022/01/transfer-ban-marseille/

Guendouzi should be fine. If this happens.

Author:  gooner7 [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:40 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Unbelievable. Post match analysis of the Leeds game - Graeme Souness says what a good honest side Leeds are (fair enough) and then uses that as a basis to slag off Arsenal for calling off a game. Talk about a non sequitur. More anti-Arsenal rubbish.


He is still bitter with our 89 win at Anfield

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:43 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
This is what the Mail put out today. They reckon this is an 11 Arsenal could have played v Spurs and ‘proved’ it was worth more than the spurs 11.
A number of points to be made:
The rules aren’t 11 they are 14 with 1 gk
Some players are given their transfer value and others are given current value to suit the agenda of making the arsenal team look more expensive
Skip and winks are chosen ahead of Ndombele (£60m) and Lo Celso (£40m) again to suit the agenda
Mari has to play right back and Patino right wing

When your agenda is so clear it makes the level of journalism an embarrassment

The problem for the duck head ( just to test out the Warrior swear barrier) who constructed the table is that Kane is apparently worth about a 150million according to Levy so they are well ahead of us.

Author:  gooner7 [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:46 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Marseille transfer ban for 2 windows

https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... r-22764490

Basically means guendouzi and Saliba will have to come back


Would like to see Saliba finally playing for us.
Won't mind giving Guendouzi a place too. He might spring a positive surprise.

Here's hoping :58big-emoticons:

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:42 pm ]
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Nice goal by Pépé for Ivory Coast. But for a real laugh have a look at Sierra Leone’s late equaliser. Shades of Gary Sprake.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:52 pm ]
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Our youth player Omar Rekik also came on as sub for Tunisia in their game at AFCON. He’s 20 and plays CB. No idea how close the club see him to the first team squad.

Author:  Rich [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:34 am ]
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Prem wages league.
Accounts from last year mostly but it shows how we’ve reduced our wage bill hugely. We used to be up alongside Liverpool at least and not too far off the other big spenders

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Author:  Rich [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:36 am ]
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Big 6 sponsorship deals.
The area we fall behind the rest is our shirt deal with Emirates. It is £40m per season but it includes the naming rights for the stadium and training kit sponsorship. Liverpool are getting £20m a season just for training kit sponsorship. City get £20m per season for stadium naming rights which is a bit harder to gauge because their deals are a bit dodgy.

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Author:  Bernard [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:27 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Big 6 sponsorship deals.
The area we fall behind the rest is our shirt deal with Emirates. It is £40m per season but it includes the naming rights for the stadium and training kit sponsorship. Liverpool are getting £20m a season just for training kit sponsorship. City get £20m per season for stadium naming rights which is a bit harder to gauge because their deals are a bit dodgy.

I’ll be glad to see the back of Emirates. I prefer short names on the shirts like JVC and O2. I suppose everyone looks on the Emirates as the stadium’s name. The point that we don’t have a common non-sponsor name like Old Trafford, Anfield, Stamford Bridge, (even the old ground commonly called Highbury was actually named Arsenal Stadium), it might take a while before people start thinking of it as whoever the new sponsors name might be rather than the Emirates.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:46 am ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Unbelievable. Post match analysis of the Leeds game - Graeme Souness says what a good honest side Leeds are (fair enough) and then uses that as a basis to slag off Arsenal for calling off a game. Talk about a non sequitur. More anti-Arsenal rubbish.


Not that I care too much what other fans think of us, its a shame the current feeling about us. We are a remarkable story this season. It's a shame its not celebrated. We clawed our way from literally bottom after a month to serious top 4 contenders.

We really shouldn't expect Sounes and Carragher to be fair when it comes to The Arsenal anyway, its just a shame though nonetheless.

Author:  Bernard [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:48 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
Rich wrote:
I think Guendouzi will still have to go there. The contractual situation of the obligation to buy was set prior to this ban. It’s the same kind of situation that allowed Chelsea to buy Kovacic despite their ban

Hope you’re wrong about that Rich, but that’s hope not expectation. I’d love to see Guendouzi back. I simply don’t believe he can be as big a troublemaker as his reputation suggests.

Doesn’t sound like Marseille think he’s a problem personality. As I’ve said, when the usual captain doesn’t play I read Guendouzi has been made their captain on a game by game basis.

Can’t recall if I’ve ever said this here, but my hairdresser has another customer who has worked at Arsenal in a relatively good job for quite a while. The hairdresser is a big up-front about it Arsenal fan and told me that his other customer told him that before Arteta arrived, Guendouzi was widely seen at Arsenal as a future club captain.

I find it difficult to believe he’s as difficult a character as his reputation suggests.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... dium=email

https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... dium=email

Author:  old man of hoy [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:02 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
...Can’t recall if I’ve ever said this here, but my hairdresser has another customer who has worked at Arsenal in a relatively good job for quite a while. The hairdresser is a big up-front about it Arsenal fan and told me that his other customer told him that before Arteta arrived, Guendouzi was widely seen at Arsenal as a future club captain...
My hairdresser, not having very much to do these days when I visit him, has a lot of time on his hands. While clippering the remains of what once was my Robert Plant but is now very Stevie Bould, he told me on good authority that Guendouzi is a right knut...Seems reasonable enough to me. Anything for the weekend squire?

Author:  Bernard [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:27 am ]
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old man of hoy wrote:
Bernard wrote:
...Can’t recall if I’ve ever said this here, but my hairdresser has another customer who has worked at Arsenal in a relatively good job for quite a while. The hairdresser is a big up-front about it Arsenal fan and told me that his other customer told him that before Arteta arrived, Guendouzi was widely seen at Arsenal as a future club captain...
My hairdresser, not having very much to do these days when I visit him, has a lot of time on his hands. While clippering the remains of what once was my Robert Plant but is now very Stevie Bould, he told me on good authority that Guendouzi is a right knut...Seems reasonable enough to me. Anything for the weekend squire?

What’s a knut? A housing estate in Knutsford?

Author:  old man of hoy [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:40 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
old man of hoy wrote:
My hairdresser, not having very much to do these days when I visit him, has a lot of time on his hands. While clippering the remains of what once was my Robert Plant but is now very Stevie Bould, he told me on good authority that Guendouzi is a right knut...Seems reasonable enough to me. Anything for the weekend squire?

What’s a knut? A housing estate in Knutsford?
Scunthorpe....

Author:  long time gooner [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:55 am ]
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old man of hoy wrote:
Bernard wrote:
What’s a knut? A housing estate in Knutsford?
Scunthorpe....

Reminds me of the old joke. If Typhoo put the T in Britain then who put the …..

Author:  Hazuki [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:00 am ]
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What I don't get with all the outrage about the NLD being postponed is how much of it that seems to be aimed at Arsenal. Clubs don't decide to postpone games, all they do is apply and then the Premier League board reviews the application and makes a decision. We didn't make up the rules.

To me, blaming Arsenal is like blaming a club for getting a dubious penalty after VAR check - in that instance surely the criticism should be towards the VAR room or the ref because they're the ones actually making the call.

Author:  Hazuki [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:09 am ]
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That being said, I think the current rules are an absolute joke. No game should be cancelled because of one or two (or four) covid cases, the intent should be for every game that can be played to be played. We should've played yesterday, and the first leg against Liverpool should've gone on as planned. Feels like the league has painted themselves into a corner here with their interpretation of the rules.

Author:  DHD [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:20 am ]
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Come on Chaps. It’s pretty clear we’ve worked the system to our advantage and that’s why we’re catching flak. I know other clubs have done the same but that’s not an excuse. Sure we had plenty out to African absence, suspension and injury (though you’d question just how ‘injured’ some might’ve been), but only one for Covid. That’s really handy since without that single positive test, we wouldn’t have been allowed to request a postponement. With the benefit of that single positive test, the request passed the test and couldn’t be denied. The rules are there to help clubs whose squads are overwhelmed by Covid. Ours wasn't.

Author:  Hazuki [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:28 am ]
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DHD wrote:
The rules are there to help clubs whose squads are overwhelmed by Covid. Ours wasn't.

I agree with this in principle, but my point is that we didn't make the decision - the league could've denied our request if they didn't think the rules applied, but since our request was accepted it surely followed the same rules that applies to everyone else?

Like I said, my personal view is that the game should've been played (and I feel the same about many other cancelled games), but in the end all clubs will do what they believe are in their best interest.

Author:  Hazuki [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:29 am ]
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Anyway, it seems Pablo Mari is going to Udinese on loan for the rest of the season. Wonder if that will be mentioned in the context of us getting a game postponed...

Author:  DHD [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:30 am ]
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Hazuki wrote:
That being said, I think the current rules are an absolute joke. No game should be cancelled because of one or two (or four) covid cases, the intent should be for every game that can be played to be played. We should've played yesterday, and the first leg against Liverpool should've gone on as planned. Feels like the league has painted themselves into a corner here with their interpretation of the rules.


Agreed Haz.

There are always injuries at this time of the year. We have ours, Tottenham have theirs. Personally, I think the Totts are in a pretty chaotic state right at this moment and I was confident of a result, but if things went against us - tough. It happens in the game. Treat those two imposters just the same.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:32 am ]
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DHD wrote:
Come on Chaps. It’s pretty clear we’ve worked the system to our advantage and that’s why we’re catching flak. I know other clubs have done the same but that’s not an excuse. Sure we had plenty out to African absence, suspension and injury (though you’d question just how ‘injured’ some might’ve been), but only one for Covid. That’s really handy since without that single positive test, we wouldn’t have been allowed to request a postponement. With the benefit of that single positive test, the request passed the test and couldn’t be denied. The rules are there to help clubs whose squads are overwhelmed by Covid. Ours wasn't.

Maybe but If you can’t backfill the player absences due to the u23s playing on the Friday what can you do?

You can either put a team out or you can’t. There’s no question we are hopelessly stretched

Author:  Rich [ Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:35 am ]
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Arsenal supposedly offering £50m plus Torriera for Vlahovic. I like these sorts of deals because Vlahovic's price will always be quoted as £50m, people always forget to add the player that went the other way, possibly because their price was never given.

The other strange one I read is Juve are willing to do business with us over Arthur Melo if we include Partey in the deal(!). We could of course offer them a counter proposal of swapping Pablo Mari for Dybala.....

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