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Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:27 pm ]
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Saka's turn to hit the post....
Author:  gooner7 [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:27 pm ]
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Just love the speed of our movement
:53big-emoticons:
Author:  gooner7 [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:30 pm ]
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Martinelli is fantastic today :53big-emoticons:
Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:30 pm ]
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Well played Gabriel. Makes sense to give Holding 20 mins and not risk a red.
Author:  Rich [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:31 pm ]
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Certainly more enjoyable. Pace and confidence.

Good sub to take Gabriel off as he’s on a yellow
Author:  warrior [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:31 pm ]
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Maybe Southampton should sub their goalie for another post.
Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:32 pm ]
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warrior wrote:
Maybe Southampton should sub their goalie for another post.

:laughing7:
Author:  warrior [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:34 pm ]
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Ramsdale is red hot.
Author:  Rich [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:39 pm ]
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We’ve hit the woodwork 10 times this season, more than any other side.

An interesting thing I saw last week was Rangnick saying the goals should be made bigger because players are a lot bigger than when the goals were first sized. What would the downside be of making the goals the width of the woodwork bigger? I suppose with the increased rise of the women’s game it could hinder that maybe
Author:  Decaf [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:40 pm ]
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warrior wrote:
Maybe Southampton should sub their goalie for another post.

:happy11: :happy11:
Author:  gooner7 [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:41 pm ]
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Some minutes for Nketiah?
Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:43 pm ]
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Blimey, Pépé's still alive
Author:  gooner7 [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:43 pm ]
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Pépé. Not a bad choice.
Author:  gooner7 [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:45 pm ]
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There we go, Partey with his trademark shot on goal.
Author:  long time gooner [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:45 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
We’ve hit the woodwork 10 times this season, more than any other side.

An interesting thing I saw last week was Rangnick saying the goals should be made bigger because players are a lot bigger than when the goals were first sized. What would the downside be of making the goals the width of the woodwork bigger? I suppose with the increased rise of the women’s game it could hinder that maybe

Rangnick’s comment makes sense. I have pondered that for quite some time now.
Author:  warrior [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:46 pm ]
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Curious to see how long Aubameyang ends up being in the sin bin for.
Author:  bubblechris [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:49 pm ]
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absent from training yesterday
Author:  long time gooner [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:54 pm ]
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Nice one. On to West Ham.
Author:  gooner7 [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:55 pm ]
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Thoroughly enjoyable. We must play like this all the time.
Author:  warrior [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:02 pm ]
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Ah well - 5th place for now. Nice ... :58big-emoticons:
Author:  gooner7 [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:24 pm ]
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warrior wrote:
Curious to see how long Aubameyang ends up being in the sin bin for.


All of Dec, then he's off to ANC.
Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:44 pm ]
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Nice solid win. I'm not going to read more into it than it is. Not going to complain about minor issues. Not going to make more of the win than it is.

West Ham beckons. A more realistic test of where we really are.
Author:  thofman [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:05 pm ]
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gooner7 wrote:
Any news about why Aubameyang missed training?

Maybe the Bugatti La Voiture Noire ran out of gas.
Author:  Rich [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:06 pm ]
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Liverpool, City and Chelsea pushed all the way at home by Villa, Wolves and Leeds. Shows the decent level of quality in the league and shows that we need to be doing better in the games against those 3 in the second half of the season.

Much needed 3 points today, could have been a lot more than 3, but also Ramsdale pulling off some great saves.

Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, Tavares, White, Lokonga and Ødegaard has been a very good set of signings all with room to improve further. What we need now is a potential boost in January with a striker or central mid - but probably more realistically a changing of the guard in attacking positions this summer of the success and quality we did with mostly defensive players this summer.
Author:  Rich [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:07 pm ]
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thofman wrote:
gooner7 wrote:
Any news about why Aubameyang missed training?

Maybe the Bugatti La Voiture Noire ran out of gas.

Apparently he had permission to go abroad for a personal matter but came back late which could or did put Arsenals covid protocols at risk
Author:  Rich [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:38 pm ]
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Fair to say if we’d played with that sort of attacking endeavour in the Man U and Everton game we’d probably have 4 more points right now
Author:  Rich [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:45 pm ]
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It is strange why we don’t consistently go on the attack, we always look better for it. Yes we will look more open at the back BUT we have a gk who is excelling and two CB who are quick and can defend a high line….not to mention a RB who is excellent in 1 on 1 duels.
Xhaka does feel like a weakness defensively if a game gets stretched.

Martinelli is growing every game and should stay in the team as he brings the pace and energy we need.

The ups and downs will come with such a new and young team and I fully expect more of them through the season. The issue right now for getting top 4 is West Ham look capable against the very best in the league and Man U somehow (as last season) manage to find ways of winning games they are abject in. We haven’t really found that consistently yet
Author:  Rich [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:34 pm ]
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What are the forum’s thoughts on Arteta very publicly and clearly calling out Aubameyang’s discipline? That is twice now. Can he remain captain? Surely stripping him of captain burns all bridges, and Aubameyang still has 18 months on his deal - who takes him off us?

It feels like we’ve got 2 halves of the squad right now, the new squad plus youngsters and the out of favour plus the contract expiring ones.

Leno, Cédric, kolasinac, Mari, elneny, Nketiah, Lacazette, Aubameyang and maybe Pépé would all probably be moved on by Arteta if he could right now. I’m hesitant to put Xhaka in there because I’m not totally sure how Arteta sees him. I think he likes him because he can control what Xhaka does on the pitch and he’ll play to Arteta’s instructions more than most….but I think he would also replace him if a different type of player came along.

I think Arteta has shown he’s not afraid to shake up the status quo if he wants a specific type of player by removing Leno and bringing in Ramsdale - which at the time wasn’t a problem position for us
Author:  Rich [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:16 pm ]
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Can anyone think of a recent signing that had such a negative reaction from Arsenal fans but completely turned it round to perform outstandingly well and become a fan favourite. Ramsdale has been brilliant
Author:  TOP GUN [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:23 pm ]
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Back from the game despite the best efforts of TFL

Thought it was a good performance. Tommy, Tierney, white and especially Ødegaard were terrific. Actually Odegaards best game for the club. He’s played himself quite rightly into the 11

No conclusion here, some days we will look good, some bad.
Author:  TOP GUN [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:38 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
What are the forum’s thoughts on Arteta very publicly and clearly calling out Aubameyang’s discipline? That is twice now. Can he remain captain? Surely stripping him of captain burns all bridges, and Aubameyang still has 18 months on his deal - who takes him off us?


What’s Arteta supposed to do? Apparently he missed training to get a tattoo in Barcelona, if that’s true how can you say the manager is wrong. George graham would have dropped him indefinitely then *%^@** him out the club.

Ultimately players should be accountable
Author:  long time gooner [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:40 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Can anyone think of a recent signing that had such a negative reaction from Arsenal fans but completely turned it round to perform outstandingly well and become a fan favourite. Ramsdale has been brilliant

The negative reaction was from a minority of ‘fans’ via social media. Most right minded people and certainly those who go to games were appalled at the time. It was outrageous.

Fortunately, along with his undoubted ability, he has the strength of personality to get the crowd with him and to drown out the nonsense from the naysayers. He has a huge amount of credit in the bank from the real support.
Author:  TOP GUN [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:41 pm ]
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Btw the club captain is one of either Tierney or Gabriel. 2 genuine leaders. Everyone knows this.

Only problem with Gabriel is his English, not sure you can make him captain.
Author:  long time gooner [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:42 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Rich wrote:
What are the forum’s thoughts on Arteta very publicly and clearly calling out Aubameyang’s discipline? That is twice now. Can he remain captain? Surely stripping him of captain burns all bridges, and Aubameyang still has 18 months on his deal - who takes him off us?


What’s Arteta supposed to do? Apparently he missed training to get a tattoo in Barcelona, if that’s true how can you say the manager is wrong. George graham would have dropped him indefinitely then *%^@** him out the club.

Ultimately players should be accountable

IF that is true about the tattoo then he has burned his bridges completely. I rather hope that it isn’t that.
Author:  TOP GUN [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:48 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Rich wrote:
Can anyone think of a recent signing that had such a negative reaction from Arsenal fans but completely turned it round to perform outstandingly well and become a fan favourite. Ramsdale has been brilliant

The negative reaction was from a minority of ‘fans’ via social media. Most right minded people and certainly those who go to games were appalled at the time. It was outrageous.

.


This is so true. The crowd were behind him from day 1 and actually he gets so much love I think every time he now makes an average borderline save our fans are in raptures it’s brilliant.

I’ve said it previously but despite his great performances when he makes his first major blooper watch the internet lot turn on him to create a new agenda.
Author:  TOP GUN [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:03 pm ]
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Ok quick story ….. I was queuing to get into the ground a little early for a change and the guy in front of me in the queue who looked like a literal walking advert for the club shop dressed in all Arsenal garb even shoes was ranting about the manager and club non stop manically.. I mean embarrassingly, loud stupid, ridiculous and the people ahead of him could barely look him in the eye. He started talking to me and moaning about arteta, Aubameyang blah blah blah. Before anyone says it wasn’t Ty off Arsenal fan tv who I’ve ran into before although I bet this a****** has been on aftv at some point. I pointed out it’s not perfect but we have to hope but he wouldn’t have it shouting embarrassingly and coming across like a fruitcake.

It’s weird man, like there’s some kind of sub culture that’s being created like mods and rockers, goths even when men in their 40s feel they have to dress like some Arsenal obsessed clown then counter it by slagging the team and manager off non stop.

I just can’t make sense or this nonsense anymore. When I was younger these twats must have been around but nobody listened to them or I didn’t notice them
Author:  kiwipete [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:24 pm ]
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Good result ... any win in this league is hard fought . Liverpool and Man City only scraping 1 - 0's

Makes me laugh when asked the first time about Aubameyang .... Arteta says it's a disciplinary issue and thats all I am going to say let's talk about the game ;

Yet over and over those slimy press d**&&& try a multitude of ways to resurrect the topic .
Author:  Zed [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:05 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:

What’s Arteta supposed to do? Apparently he missed training to get a tattoo in Barcelona, if that’s true how can you say the manager is wrong. George graham would have dropped him indefinitely then *%^@** him out the club.

Ultimately players should be accountable

IF that is true about the tattoo then he has burned his bridges completely. I rather hope that it isn’t that.

Maybe Barca was just a stop over back to London or on the way to where he was actually going. Being that he was allowed a personal leave, who knows what it entailed so to speak. Yet that pic he posted smiling while getting that tatoo apparently ruffled a few feathers, not just MA.
Author:  kiwipete [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:32 pm ]
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Darren wrote:
Bored wrote:
Am I the only person on the forum who reads American Gooner's political essays? I'd hazard a guess that Decaf may read them too, though admitedly I only read the first chapter. I'm going to make myself a builders tea before I tackle parts 2 and 3.

I don’t read the longer posts but I will say AG really doesn’t offend me in the way he seems to with other forumites. I really don’t understand the offence he seems to induce.


Well seeing as I one of the ''evil " offended persons let me explain it for you Darren .

What gets up my nose slightly about American is he spouts whatever.......then hasn't got the nuts to back it up when challenged .

I used to get on fine with him , he loved Kiwis , mentioning he had a Kiwi girlfriend who broke his heart .

I took an interest in his alma mater the Auburn Tigers because I thought he was left out in the cold a bit . No -one answered his posts .

Then on ONE ocassion I disagreed with something he said , that was it ...... KAPOW the portcullis clattered down , the drawbridge got raised .

He immediately "went into you're picking on me " mode and refused to communicate forthwith .

He always gives it the " I 'm a real hard arse and wont be bullied " etc etc but is exactly the opposite .

Just recently Top Gun was having some heated verbals with a few forumites and a host of others [ which I thought quite cowardly ] took the opportunity to snipe from the sidelines while he was warring on other fronts .

Did he ban all those who were slagging him ...NO ... he's still here as obnoxious as ever [ :laughing7: ] standing his corner .

I've been slaughtered on here several times when I opened my gob especially in the good old days when I was 3/4 way thru a bottle of rum , fully tanked at 2 am in the morning
.... waking up thinking "Oh my God wonder what I typed last night " ............... grin and bear it .

American would gain great deal more respect if he manned up and replied to any who disagree with him instead of having half the forum on foe .

I take a great deal of interest in American politics and delve into it a lot more than just listening to the mainstream media , so I'll go back and read his take on US affairs and make a reasonable respectful judgement .
Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:58 am ]
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Rich wrote:
What are the forum’s thoughts on Arteta very publicly and clearly calling out Aubameyang’s discipline? That is twice now. Can he remain captain? Surely stripping him of captain burns all bridges, and Aubameyang still has 18 months on his deal - who takes him off us?

It feels like we’ve got 2 halves of the squad right now, the new squad plus youngsters and the out of favour plus the contract expiring ones.

Leno, Cédric, kolasinac, Mari, elneny, Nketiah, Lacazette, Aubameyang and maybe Pépé would all probably be moved on by Arteta if he could right now. I’m hesitant to put Xhaka in there because I’m not totally sure how Arteta sees him. I think he likes him because he can control what Xhaka does on the pitch and he’ll play to Arteta’s instructions more than most….but I think he would also replace him if a different type of player came along.

I think Arteta has shown he’s not afraid to shake up the status quo if he wants a specific type of player by removing Leno and bringing in Ramsdale - which at the time wasn’t a problem position for us


My view is a manager should only say things from the dressing room if its in the best overall interest of the squad. Sometimes a public lashing motivates a player, rarely but it can.

The dressing room is like the Las Vegas advert "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" we have in the states. Generally speaking, you only say good things in public about what happens in the dressing room. "He's a leader in the dressing room".

A player has to be able to trust his manager not to publicly embarass him. The man has a wife, kids (sometimes), friends, millions of people who follow the club. It's very, very touchy.

Its why we don't find out about some things till years after retirement or someone publishes a 'tell all' book.
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