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Author:  kiwipete [ Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:42 pm ]
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John wrote:
Decaf wrote:
The cricket is shaping up interestingly.

First time for everything I suppose.

:laughing7:

Author:  Decaf [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:11 am ]
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kiwipete wrote:
John wrote:
First time for everything I suppose.

:laughing7:

:icon_silent:

Author:  Daz [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:21 am ]
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I'm not THAT bothered about Sanchez. He's been great for us but I don't love him and find him quite annoying sometimes - there is something about the downward turn of his mouth that I find unprepossessing as well as that habit of scrunching up his shorts at free-kicks. Hoy is right - choosing City over Bayern tells you everything about his ambition which is largely to put as many pesos in his account before returning to a comfortable retirement as an icon in Chile like Zamorano and Salas before him. They come. They go. Only players I would be sad to see leave now are Ramsey, Iwobi, and Giroud - and the latter only because it makes me and my son laugh when Mrs Daz says "oh look there's Olivier Giroud" when she sees him on TV during games.

Funny. how nobody is discussing Özil!

Author:  Daz [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:23 am ]
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Quinton de Kock should surely be flying Sopwith Camels over Flanders - he seems to have jumped eras.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:34 am ]
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Daz wrote:
I'm not THAT bothered about Sanchez. He's been great for us but I don't love him and find him quite annoying sometimes - there is something about the downward turn of his mouth that I find unprepossessing as well as that habit of scrunching up his shorts at free-kicks. Hoy is right - choosing City over Bayern tells you everything about his ambition which is largely to put as many pesos in his account before returning to a comfortable retirement as an icon in Chile like Zamorano and Salas before him. They come. They go. Only players I would be sad to see leave now are Ramsey, Iwobi, and Giroud - and the latter only because it makes me and my son laugh when Mrs Daz says "oh look there's Olivier Giroud" when she sees him on TV during games.

Funny. how nobody is discussing Özil!


Thats an interesting observation. Mesut finished the season quite badly and it seems funny how everyone is talking about sanchez but not Özil leaving. He's a funny player Özil, i don't know wether he's overhyped or over rated or under appreciated. He will always have an element who does like him.

I think he will sign a new contract and if he doesn't i'm not really fussed if he went. If sanchez doesn't go this summer i think he could sign a new contract during the season. Hell be 30 not this December but one after and next summer he won't be getting 4 year 300k a week contract offers then if he's about to turn 30

Author:  Daz [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:34 am ]
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old man of hoy wrote:
kiwipete wrote:
They offer 50 ...we say 80 ...and settle for 58 .... think of it with that extra 8 million we can search for a replacement for Sanogo .
Yes, for 8 mil we could even get the young French midfield maestro, Ouesta Monet.


Hearing really good things about the young Lithuanian Spünkit Awåe but I think Chelsea might be in for him.

Author:  Bernard1 [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:26 am ]
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Chelsea's new German signing is an Arsenal fan. I was quite impressed with Rudiger when he played in the Confederations Cup.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... l-10741310

Author:  kiwipete [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:52 am ]
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Decaf wrote:
kiwipete wrote:
:laughing7:

:icon_silent:

you know Johnny Boy's views on cricket and with him in mind I watched half an hour of gaelic football this morning ...... quite good viewing can't help thinking it would be better if they had a few rules .

Author:  old man of hoy [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:15 am ]
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kiwipete wrote:
...you know Johnny Boy's views on cricket...
Yes if somebody really wanted to spoil John's birthday a present of a book of cricket poems would probably do the trick.

Author:  old man of hoy [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:19 am ]
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Daz wrote:
Quinton de Kock should surely be flying Sopwith Camels over Flanders - he seems to have jumped eras.
It is hard not to let the sillier side of my mind get the better of me over that name. Must have been a trial for him at school - almost as uncomfortable as playing Moeen on a bunsen.

Author:  old man of hoy [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:23 am ]
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Daz wrote:
old man of hoy wrote:
Yes, for 8 mil we could even get the young French midfield maestro, Ouesta Monet.


Hearing really good things about the young Lithuanian Spünkit Awåe but I think Chelsea might be in for him.
Yes, once again Wenger has failed miserably in the transfer market. Even if he signs the Brazilian prodigy Sheeton Leggs, as is being widely rumoured, that will not compensate for letting Chelski get to Spunkit first.

Author:  old man of hoy [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:25 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
Chelsea's new German signing is an Arsenal fan. I was quite impressed with Rudiger when he played in the Confederations Cup.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... l-10741310
Is that the same Rudiger who collapsed in mortal agony in the penalty area after Hernandez tickled his belly?

Author:  Bernard1 [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:53 am ]
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old man of hoy wrote:
Bernard wrote:
Chelsea's new German signing is an Arsenal fan. I was quite impressed with Rudiger when he played in the Confederations Cup.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... l-10741310
Is that the same Rudiger who collapsed in mortal agony in the penalty area after Hernandez tickled his belly?

Not sure I understand what you're getting at. It can't be an insinuation that he was acting, as Germans don't do that. The conclusive proof for that being Michael Caine, the greatest actor in the history of the world, was born in Rotherhithe which isn't in Germany.

Author:  Daz [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:10 am ]
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kiwipete wrote:
Decaf wrote:
:icon_silent:

you know Johnny Boy's views on cricket and with him in mind I watched half an hour of gaelic football this morning ...... quite good viewing can't help thinking it would be better if they had a few rules .


Yes I watched that as well - pleased to see the Wicks sneak past the Meaths by a slender 6.2 x 39 (x = sin y) against 9 (6.2 π)

Author:  Daz [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:13 am ]
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Sets up a grand auld final against The Burrens - I'm just after packing a rasher sandwich and my she-wee for the train.

Author:  dec [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:15 am ]
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Daz wrote:
kiwipete wrote:
you know Johnny Boy's views on cricket and with him in mind I watched half an hour of gaelic football this morning ...... quite good viewing can't help thinking it would be better if they had a few rules .


Yes I watched that as well - pleased to see the Wicks sneak past the Meaths by a slender 6.2 x 39 (x = sin y) against 9 (6.2 π)

Indeed. You should be on the Sky Sports coverage to explain it to your fellow Saxons, Daz.

More importantly, Cork won the Munster Hurling Championship yesterday.

Author:  Daz [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:22 am ]
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old man of hoy wrote:
Daz wrote:

Hearing really good things about the young Lithuanian Spünkit Awåe but I think Chelsea might be in for him.
Yes, once again Wenger has failed miserably in the transfer market. Even if he signs the Brazilian prodigy Sheeton Leggs, as is being widely rumoured, that will not compensate for letting Chelski get to Spunkit first.


Young Sheeton is apparently desperate to play for Guardiola (or as he's sometimes known: plus image rights) so I could see Wenger making a sneaky move for the emerging Vilnius striker Noend Produkt.

Author:  Daz [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:27 am ]
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dec wrote:
Daz wrote:

Yes I watched that as well - pleased to see the Wicks sneak past the Meaths by a slender 6.2 x 39 (x = sin y) against 9 (6.2 π)

Indeed. You should be on the Sky Sports coverage to explain it to your fellow Saxons, Daz.

More importantly, Cork won the Munster Hurling Championship yesterday.


Neutrals are describing it as a huge múscraige of justice...

Author:  Daz [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:32 am ]
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Although strictly speaking I'm not all THAT Saxon as my great-aunts discovered to their chagrin when they tried to do a family tree for my gran's 80th in search of some blue blood...

Author:  dec [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:36 am ]
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Daz wrote:
Although strictly speaking I'm not all THAT Saxon as my great-aunts discovered to their chagrin when they tried to do a family tree for my gran's 80th in search of some blue blood...

You're a bit of a Celt so, I take it? :icon_wink1:

Author:  Daz [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:44 am ]
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dec wrote:
Daz wrote:
Although strictly speaking I'm not all THAT Saxon as my great-aunts discovered to their chagrin when they tried to do a family tree for my gran's 80th in search of some blue blood...

You're a bit of a Celt so, I take it? :icon_wink1:


There were some "travellers" a few of whom ended up on the gibbet and also jews. All in all not what they wanted although I was quite pleased at the time as it enhanced my cosmopolitan pretensions. On my dad's side though it was solid northern grit although I think they made their way to Lancashire from Wales originally.

Luckily I don't really care about any of these ethnofictions. For me it is usually better to look at whether somebody is a *%^@ or not than where their grandparents are from.

Author:  Daz [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:45 am ]
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Unless obviously it is about the number of foreign imports in domestic sport where I become a blood-and-soil Nazi.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:17 pm ]
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Very happy for you personally. Wish nothing but the best for you there. How is it coming back? Noticeable changes or pretty much the same?

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:29 pm ]
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The Graham legacy? Even though he managed Sperz, most on here I know and I would say all, because I can't remember anyone saying a bad word about Graham. Maybe they have but I don't recall. I think Graham's place in Arsenal history depends on what generation you are. If you were old enough to be there for the '89 title, etc. then he's firmly a legendary manager. If you weren't, then I'm guessing he's remembered a little less fondly. How much? Not sure, but not as much as those that were there in '89, '91, Cup Winners Cup.

http://www.gunnerstown.com/arsenal/2017 ... is-legacy/

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:19 pm ]
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Hodd, is Joe Willock one of yours?
http://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/p ... e-13309391

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:44 pm ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
The Graham legacy? Even though he managed Sperz, most on here I know and I would say all, because I can't remember anyone saying a bad word about Graham. Maybe they have but I don't recall. I think Graham's place in Arsenal history depends on what generation you are. If you were old enough to be there for the '89 title, etc. then he's firmly a legendary manager. If you weren't, then I'm guessing he's remembered a little less fondly. How much? Not sure, but not as much as those that were there in '89, '91, Cup Winners Cup.

http://www.gunnerstown.com/arsenal/2017 ... is-legacy/


A fitting tribute to our greatest ever manager

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:20 pm ]
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Congrats Hoy. Massive achievement

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-n ... d-40553202

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:24 pm ]
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Hodd, using American sports as my reasoning and that we live in the electronic age, I have to imagine that identifying good young players that haven't been noticed that much has gotten exponentially more difficult.

I remember I had to hear about how good teenage basketball players and American football players were until they got to univeristy. Now, on youtube they have their own highlight series. Its extended down to middle school and now elementary school.

A standout 7 year old in most sports here are being immediately tracked, statewide, regionally and sometimes nationally.

Basically, there really aren't any more hidden gems. They are unearthed and known. The exceptions are youth that have improved a lot in a short time (which would also correspond with growth spurts).

How intense is scouting these days?

Author:  dec [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:47 pm ]
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John wrote:
dec wrote:
More importantly, Cork won the Munster Hurling Championship yesterday.

I hope it's a Cork / Galway final. that would be refreshing.

The young lads we have brought in this year have been fantastic. Full of speed and skill. We are getting our act together underage too. Cork might finally be returning as a force again. Our footballers though....Jesus wept.

Author:  long time gooner [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:25 pm ]
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dec wrote:
Daz wrote:

Yes I watched that as well - pleased to see the Wicks sneak past the Meaths by a slender 6.2 x 39 (x = sin y) against 9 (6.2 π)

Indeed. You should be on the Sky Sports coverage to explain it to your fellow Saxons, Daz.

More importantly, Cork won the Munster Hurling Championship yesterday.

Do they get to play the Addams Family next?

Author:  Wirral Gooner [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:18 pm ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
The Graham legacy? Even though he managed Sperz, most on here I know and I would say all, because I can't remember anyone saying a bad word about Graham. Maybe they have but I don't recall. I think Graham's place in Arsenal history depends on what generation you are. If you were old enough to be there for the '89 title, etc. then he's firmly a legendary manager. If you weren't, then I'm guessing he's remembered a little less fondly. How much? Not sure, but not as much as those that were there in '89, '91, Cup Winners Cup.

http://www.gunnerstown.com/arsenal/2017 ... is-legacy/



You have to remember AG, that Stroller was an Arsenal legend before he came back manage us. All those double/ fairs cup winners will always have a very special place in many Gooner hearts. 17 years without a trophy before the Anderlecht final and then the final league game on Monday night at WHL and the 1 - 0 win. Then to top it all a glorious extra time cup final win against Liverpool with what I still think is the best ever goal to win a cup final and a double from Charlie George.

Author:  old man of hoy [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:42 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
... Rotherhithe which isn't in Germany.
They did their best to get rid of it!

Author:  old man of hoy [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:44 pm ]
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Daz wrote:
old man of hoy wrote:
Yes, once again Wenger has failed miserably in the transfer market. Even if he signs the Brazilian prodigy Sheeton Leggs, as is being widely rumoured, that will not compensate for letting Chelski get to Spunkit first.


Young Sheeton is apparently desperate to play for Guardiola (or as he's sometimes known: plus image rights) so I could see Wenger making a sneaky move for the emerging Vilnius striker Noend Produkt.
Or even the Danish winger Kantrun Fast.

Author:  old man of hoy [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:49 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
AmericanGooner wrote:
The Graham legacy? Even though he managed Sperz, most on here I know and I would say all, because I can't remember anyone saying a bad word about Graham. Maybe they have but I don't recall. I think Graham's place in Arsenal history depends on what generation you are. If you were old enough to be there for the '89 title, etc. then he's firmly a legendary manager. If you weren't, then I'm guessing he's remembered a little less fondly. How much? Not sure, but not as much as those that were there in '89, '91, Cup Winners Cup.

http://www.gunnerstown.com/arsenal/2017 ... is-legacy/


A fitting tribute to our greatest ever manager
Not sure bout that but he was some player. Superb header of the ball, sublime passer, a shimmy that your Sister Kate would die for and a hard man when need be.

Author:  old man of hoy [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:51 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
I was out when he got there, otherwise I'd have made him a cup of tea. Actually wearing that hat the guy has an uncanny resemblance to my son.

Author:  Daz [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:52 pm ]
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old man of hoy wrote:
Daz wrote:

Young Sheeton is apparently desperate to play for Guardiola (or as he's sometimes known: plus image rights) so I could see Wenger making a sneaky move for the emerging Vilnius striker Noend Produkt.
Or even the Danish winger Kantrun Fast.


Good but I'm more interested in the Bulgarian playmaker Fitov Klée. Apparently his big role model is Julio "the beast" Baptista.

Author:  old man of hoy [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:17 pm ]
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Daz wrote:
old man of hoy wrote:
Or even the Danish winger Kantrun Fast.


Good but I'm more interested in the Bulgarian playmaker Fitov Klée. Apparently his big role model is Julio "the beast" Baptista.
Baptista. Who will ever forget the man with the touch of an Aberdeen granite kerbstone?

Author:  Sabir [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:49 pm ]
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John wrote:
old man of hoy wrote:
Baptista. Who will ever forget the man with the touch of an Aberdeen granite kerbstone?

And the weird pointy head.

Would have scored five in one match at Anfield if he'd converted a pen. Surely would have been a record.

Author:  kiwipete [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:44 pm ]
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John wrote:
kiwipete wrote:
you know Johnny Boy's views on cricket and with him in mind I watched half an hour of gaelic football this morning ...... quite good viewing can't help thinking it would be better if they had a few rules .

Who was playing? Tune in to Dublin v Kildare in the Leinster Final next Sunday if you can. The Kildare lads think they actually have a chance :1laughter:

I typed in hurling and somehow got gaelic football ....... Tipperary v Galway

Losing my way with rugby a bit , little things are starting to p*ss me off ; bouncing the ball half a dozen times when kicking off , all the f**** around in the lineouts , not putting the ball in the centre of the scrum , the advantage rule , the need to touch hands with the whole bench when substituted , feigning injuries to run down the clock , the rolling maul . Old and crusty I know

:laughing7: Oh and let's not forget the need to clean out the eardrums with some Jay Z , Creed or Snoop Dog every time play stops for three seconds .

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:04 am ]
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Wirral Gooner wrote:
AmericanGooner wrote:
The Graham legacy? Even though he managed Sperz, most on here I know and I would say all, because I can't remember anyone saying a bad word about Graham. Maybe they have but I don't recall. I think Graham's place in Arsenal history depends on what generation you are. If you were old enough to be there for the '89 title, etc. then he's firmly a legendary manager. If you weren't, then I'm guessing he's remembered a little less fondly. How much? Not sure, but not as much as those that were there in '89, '91, Cup Winners Cup.

http://www.gunnerstown.com/arsenal/2017 ... is-legacy/



You have to remember AG, that Stroller was an Arsenal legend before he came back manage us. All those double/ fairs cup winners will always have a very special place in many Gooner hearts. 17 years without a trophy before the Anderlecht final and then the final league game on Monday night at WHL and the 1 - 0 win. Then to top it all a glorious extra time cup final win against Liverpool with what I still think is the best ever goal to win a cup final and a double from Charlie George.


I didn't know he was deemed a legend as a player. I knew he was well known and liked but not legend status. Thank for that information. Even though I became a fan after he left, I respect the name highly.

Him being at Sperz around the time I became a fan didn't sit well intially..haha.

How was that received at the time? Did Arsenal fans turn on him?

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