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Post #508921  Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:16 am 
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Pablo Mari, 26, from Flamengo looks like he’s our new CB signing. £7.5m

Was on City’s books for 3 years but didn’t play for them. Played against Liverpool in World Club Championship Final. Pictures on Twitter of him with Edu at Rio airport coming to London last night. Medical today apparently.

No idea how good or bad he is.

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Post #508922  Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:18 am 
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Pablo Mari then?

Risen without trace. At least he’s 6’ 3”.


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Post #508923  Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:19 am 
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Pablo Mari then?

Risen without trace. At least he’s 6’ 3”.

I only know what I’ve read in the last 10 minutes. At least it’s another body at the back.

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Post #508924  Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:24 am 
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Pablo Mari, 26, from Flumenese looks like he’s our new CB signing. £7.5m

Was on City’s books for 3 years but didn’t play for them. Played against Liverpool in World Club Championship Final. Pictures on Twitter of him with Edu at Rio airport coming to London last night. Medical today apparently.

No idea how good or bad he is.


Hi Darren,

I saw that on twitter.

Like you I've no idea whether he's any good. Flamengo fans seem to rate him quite highly and he was apparently voted the best CB in Brazil & South America.

On the downside, it seems his weakness is a lack of pace. That always concerns me with defenders in the PL.

He's also 26 and has not been capped for Spain which is a bit odd.

If the price of £7.5m is correct then I suppose its one of those low risk gambles.


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Post #508925  Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:36 am 
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Darren wrote:
Pablo Mari, 26, from Flamengo looks like he’s our new CB signing. £7.5m

Was on City’s books for 3 years but didn’t play for them. Played against Liverpool in World Club Championship Final. Pictures on Twitter of him with Edu at Rio airport coming to London last night. Medical today apparently.

No idea how good or bad he is.

3 years at city (loan from city) should mean Arteta knows him. I don’t want us to be a club where the signings bypass any thought and input from the manager.
Like Soc, my biggest worry is the rumoured lack of pace. Pace covers so many mistakes.
£7.5m isn’t a lot but I’m fed up of us making stop gap or make do signings in defence. We rarely do this with strikers so why defence?
I was more excited by the Ukrainian guy we were linked with but then I’ve seen neither play


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Rich wrote:
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Pablo Mari, 26, from Flamengo looks like he’s our new CB signing. £7.5m

Was on City’s books for 3 years but didn’t play for them. Played against Liverpool in World Club Championship Final. Pictures on Twitter of him with Edu at Rio airport coming to London last night. Medical today apparently.

No idea how good or bad he is.

3 years at city (loan from city) should mean Arteta knows him. I don’t want us to be a club where the signings bypass any thought and input from the manager.
Like Soc, my biggest worry is the rumoured lack of pace. Pace covers so many mistakes.
£7.5m isn’t a lot but I’m fed up of us making stop gap or make do signings in defence. We rarely do this with strikers so why defence?
I was more excited by the Ukrainian guy we were linked with but then I’ve seen neither play


Hi Rich,

I am not going to judge him until I see him play but for that kind of money you would have thought teams around europe would have been all over him like a rash long before now.

Let's face it you do not find many 26 year old hidden gems these days.

Sounds to me like a squad filler kind of signing with little financial downside and plenty of upside if he exceeds expectations.


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Ajax, Benfica, Celtic Inter, Man U, Porto, Roma, Sevilla, Wolves

I would give us a chance of beating any of them. As I said, there are plenty that could go either way but I consider Top Gun’s observation that anyone who thinks we can win the Europa League this season as requiring cognitive therapy to be laughably ridiculous.

I accept the chances are we won’t win as we’re not miles better than all the other teams and there are quite a few rounds to get through. But we certainly have a chance of winning it. I don’t think that means I need cognitive therapy.


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Rich wrote:
Darren wrote:
Pablo Mari, 26, from Flamengo looks like he’s our new CB signing. £7.5m

Was on City’s books for 3 years but didn’t play for them. Played against Liverpool in World Club Championship Final. Pictures on Twitter of him with Edu at Rio airport coming to London last night. Medical today apparently.

No idea how good or bad he is.

3 years at city (loan from city) should mean Arteta knows him. I don’t want us to be a club where the signings bypass any thought and input from the manager.
Like Soc, my biggest worry is the rumoured lack of pace. Pace covers so many mistakes.
£7.5m isn’t a lot but I’m fed up of us making stop gap or make do signings in defence. We rarely do this with strikers so why defence?
I was more excited by the Ukrainian guy we were linked with but then I’ve seen neither play

Seems like the sort of signing that Hill City would make.

Fingers crossed that he turns out to be a hidden gem bargain. Perhaps Edu had some input too?

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Greeny wrote:
re Dial Square FC, this imaginary phoenix club, I'd just like to add a link explaining it as well.

https://shewore.com/2020/01/24/dial-squ ... enix-club/


Oh there's more.

He hates the commercialisation of the game but has 'commercial' and 'gofundme' buttons on his website.

Also if you google him he runs a construction company from the same address he's registered this joke at...nothing to do with his aim to build a brand new stadium I'm sure.

Bloke's a wrong 'un and a chancer.


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Anyway who says Liverpool can't be beaten. Match report from today's game in 1936.


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long time gooner wrote:
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3 years at city (loan from city) should mean Arteta knows him. I don’t want us to be a club where the signings bypass any thought and input from the manager.
Like Soc, my biggest worry is the rumoured lack of pace. Pace covers so many mistakes.
£7.5m isn’t a lot but I’m fed up of us making stop gap or make do signings in defence. We rarely do this with strikers so why defence?
I was more excited by the Ukrainian guy we were linked with but then I’ve seen neither play

Seems like the sort of signing that Hill City would make.

Fingers crossed that he turns out to be a hidden gem bargain. Perhaps Edu had some input too?


It's a rarity when it happens, but I've actually seen this guy play a few times.

Difficult to judge as he was playing in an abysmal Depor team but he seemed to be the only defender on the pitch quite often. Also it seemed to me he was the only one trying to organise people which is something we need badly. He seems to have progressed greatly in the last year or so and whilst a gamble (which anyone is frankly) he does have something about him and I hope he takes this chance with both feet. If we sign him.


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long time gooner wrote:
Seems like the sort of signing that Hill City would make.

Is Hill City’s stadium in the Lake District or the Pennines?


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Talk now that Mari could be on loan with an option to buy. That would make a lot of sense


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Seems like the sort of signing that Hill City would make.

Is Hill City’s stadium in the Lake District or the Pennines?

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Seems like the sort of signing that Hill City would make.

Fingers crossed that he turns out to be a hidden gem bargain. Perhaps Edu had some input too?


It's a rarity when it happens, but I've actually seen this guy play a few times.

Difficult to judge as he was playing in an abysmal Depor team but he seemed to be the only defender on the pitch quite often. Also it seemed to me he was the only one trying to organise people which is something we need badly. He seems to have progressed greatly in the last year or so and whilst a gamble (which anyone is frankly) he does have something about him and I hope he takes this chance with both feet. If we sign him.

Interesting. Looking now to be a loan deal with option to purchase. That mitigates the (off pitch) risk I guess. We aren’t really in a position to lash out mega bucks anyway, having wasted what we have spent and also running the risk of infringing the allowable spend regulations.

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Arseblogger has wrote some interesting articles over the last few weeks

His one today on the potential new signing is interesting. He’s basically suggesting that rather than arsenal signing players based on scouting the market all our signings are coming from Sanelhi and his associates like agents and ex colleagues. Clearly he’s concerned about it


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A post on Football London from a guy calling himself Shaggy:

“Mari what a signing this is going to turn out to be !! The Guy is class why he never got to meet Pep is beyond me and is a question many people must be asking and have to ask !! The guy has been a pivot at the back for Flamengo strong in the air and in the tackle and is brilliant in positioning himself !! and for £7 million wow what a bargain !! and not one main stream Media outlet knew about it ?? just goes to show people how much the main stream are just fake news simply because they dont know anything about much at all !! and just write rubbish to fill space in their papers !! lol well done Edu again !! Regards to Lemar all saying he is finished because he doesnt have a good time in spain with athletico wow what a statement !! many players have turned their careers around by simply going to another club !! why cant Lemar to the same?? whether it will be Arsenal or not doesnt matter to me but i personally think he will come good in his next career move !! a player who was that good that he warranted such a high fee when he moved to athetico from france doesnt just lose it all over one season !! if he comes to arsenal it will free up Aubameyang to play as striker like he is and should”

On the face of it, it sounds quite encouraging. But is Shaggy an ITK who in reality knows nothing? I don’t know as I’ve never heard of him before. But one question is how often has Shaggy actually seen Mari. I imagine he watched the recent Liverpool vs Flamengo game. But other than that, how often does he watch Flamengo or seen him at his other clubs?


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Let's face it you do not find many 26 year old hidden gems these days.



I know it was a while ago Soc, but Steve Bould was a 26 year-old second division player and a non-international when he signed for us.

You never know.


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I'm a bit annoyed at the attitude of some so called supporters, we have been calling for a centre back for ages, we get one and he's being wrote off as rubbish before even kicking a ball,we haven't got Upmecano money, not till summer anyway, bet these doom mongers were spouting off about Martinelli, never heard of him etc, not so noisy now are they, so let's get behind him, the team and the manager, any way must be better than Mustafi.


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I'm a bit annoyed at the attitude of some so called supporters, we have been calling for a centre back for ages, we get one and he's being wrote off as rubbish before even kicking a ball,we haven't got Upmecano money, not till summer anyway, bet these doom mongers were spouting off about Martinelli, never heard of him etc, not so noisy now are they, so let's get behind him, the team and the manager, any way must be better than Mustafi.


Hi Dray,

Not sure anyone is writing him off as rubbish. I couldn't possibly call him rubbish because I haven't seen him play, other than the Youtube highlights reel. I obviously hope he's a worldbeater.

I am intrigued by the signing but I do understand fans being slightly sceptical when by all rational thought, based on his career to date, it seems highly unlikely he will be the top, top CB we crave.

That said, CB's do tend to hit their peak later in their careers than midfielders and forwards so he could be a late developer.

Fingers crossed eh.


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It's the 25th and the last week of the transfer window. I'm optimistic but also concerned.

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Bernard wrote:
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Seems like the sort of signing that Hill City would make.

Is Hill City’s stadium in the Lake District or the Pennines?

If they are I bet Mike Riley’s refs give them a lot more decisions than we get. I suppose it helps if u speak the same lingo.

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I'm a bit annoyed at the attitude of some so called supporters, we have been calling for a centre back for ages, we get one and he's being wrote off as rubbish before even kicking a ball,we haven't got Upmecano money, not till summer anyway, bet these doom mongers were spouting off about Martinelli, never heard of him etc, not so noisy now are they, so let's get behind him, the team and the manager, any way must be better than Mustafi.

Just to correct you. There is really silly money available at the club but it is invested in a stadium in Trumpland.

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I'm a bit annoyed at the attitude of some so called supporters, we have been calling for a centre back for ages, we get one and he's being wrote off as rubbish before even kicking a ball,we haven't got Upmecano money, not till summer anyway, bet these doom mongers were spouting off about Martinelli, never heard of him etc, not so noisy now are they, so let's get behind him, the team and the manager, any way must be better than Mustafi.

With Martinelli we already had Aubameyang and Lacazette.

By contrast, we have a completely disastrous situation at CB and we are going for the bargain basement yet again.

I hope that your optimism is justified but this does feel a bit Hail Mary.

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Draytonkid wrote:
I'm a bit annoyed at the attitude of some so called supporters, we have been calling for a centre back for ages, we get one and he's being wrote off as rubbish before even kicking a ball,we haven't got Upmecano money, not till summer anyway, bet these doom mongers were spouting off about Martinelli, never heard of him etc, not so noisy now are they, so let's get behind him, the team and the manager, any way must be better than Mustafi.

Doesn’t getting behind the team include getting behind Mustafi?


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Ash wrote:
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https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-re ... ablo-mari/


"...not be the quickest, but he reads the game well, organises the back four and shows excellent positional awareness to make up for his lack of pace." A bit like Mertesacker then?


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DHD wrote:
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Let's face it you do not find many 26 year old hidden gems these days.



I know it was a while ago Soc, but Steve Bould was a 26 year-old second division player and a non-international when he signed for us.

You never know.

Koscielny was a bit younger and had played only one season in Ligue 1 when Wenger signed him. Turned out pretty good too.


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I'm a bit annoyed at the attitude of some so called supporters, we have been calling for a centre back for ages, we get one and he's being wrote off as rubbish before even kicking a ball,we haven't got Upmecano money, not till summer anyway, bet these doom mongers were spouting off about Martinelli, never heard of him etc, not so noisy now are they, so let's get behind him, the team and the manager, any way must be better than Mustafi.

With Martinelli we already had Aubameyang and Lacazette.

By contrast, we have a completely disastrous situation at CB and we are going for the bargain basement yet again.

I hope that your optimism is justified but this does feel a bit Hail Mary.


Someone like Djene Dakonam would have instilled a bit more confidence in the supporters. Not as exciting as Upamecano but more of a name compared to Mari.


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Goonie wrote:
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https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-re ... ablo-mari/


"...not be the quickest, but he reads the game well, organises the back four and shows excellent positional awareness to make up for his lack of pace."


A bit like Mertesacker then?


:laughing7: Little wind up merchant .... " a bit like Mertesacker "

999 , 999 ,999 Arsenal supporters would hope not .

From the clip ; he's excellent in the air , aggressive , has great anticipation ..... that makes him the polar opposite to Per .


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"...not be the quickest, but he reads the game well, organises the back four and shows excellent positional awareness to make up for his lack of pace."


A bit like Mertesacker then?


:laughing7: Little wind up merchant .... " a bit like Mertesacker "

999 , 999 ,999 Arsenal supporters would hope not .

From the clip ; he's excellent in the air , aggressive , has great anticipation ..... that makes him the polar opposite to Per .


He's left-footed. So more of a Cygan?


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Did we sign Mari? I didn't see any announcements. Given the state of our central defense situation (and quality available), any reasonable CB signing is a good signing.

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DHD wrote:
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Let's face it you do not find many 26 year old hidden gems these days.



I know it was a while ago Soc, but Steve Bould was a 26 year-old second division player and a non-international when he signed for us.

You never know.

While it was a long time ago and he was not one of ours - Tony Book at Manchester City
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Book

I always loved this story.

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:laughing7: Little wind up merchant .... " a bit like Mertesacker "

999 , 999 ,999 Arsenal supporters would hope not .

From the clip ; he's excellent in the air , aggressive , has great anticipation ..... that makes him the polar opposite to Per .

After stupidly getting involved with your ridiculous Mancini wind up, I’m going to ignore your pathetic Mertesacker wind up. By the way, if you want to know the opinions of most fans on Per, try reading the latest Gooner. It wasn’t by me and it part of a wider article on the club’s central defenders, but in my view got it right.


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Greeny wrote:
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Arseblogger has wrote some interesting articles over the last few weeks

His one today on the potential new signing is interesting. He’s basically suggesting that rather than arsenal signing players based on scouting the market all our signings are coming from Sanelhi and his associates like agents and ex colleagues. Clearly he’s concerned about it

There's a suggestion on the blog, but it's fact, isn't it.
We're going the "super-agent" way
It's just 2 different ways of looking for something.

Wenger searching remote jungles in South America and Africa for a cheap herbal cure for his rash, when he could have gone to Boots the Chemist and asked the pharmacist for a tried and tested cream.

Although for us it still boils down to the same thing...
Wait and see what happens and just hope that the itching stops


"Wenger searching remote jungles in South America and Africa for a cheap herbal cure for his rash, when he could have gone to Boots the Chemist and asked the pharmacist for a tried and tested cream."

This one takes the cake :53big-emoticons:

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I just watched the compilation for the wonder passes from Cesc & Santi. Those were wonderful days of Arsenal football. Noticed that we had so many runners in those games, and lots of understanding amongst the players. Even the midfielders were running in to score off the second ball. We no longer have sufficient off-the-ball runners. And of course, none in this midfield can pass like these 2.

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Watching the highlights reel of Pablo Mari it seems he is tall, quite physical and likes a slide tackle.

It appears this guy has not played any high level football outside of Brazil so it would be amazing if he can mkae a big impact in the PL.

However, there have been many examples of where players have come into the PL and been excellent despite spending most of their formative years in lower league football but generally it seems to happen more at mid to lower table PL sides than at the elite clubs.

Let's hope that Arteta knows him well from his time at Man City and that this is an inspired signing rather than a a last minute deal done because basically all our other transfer options fell by the wayside.


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Greeny wrote:
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Arseblogger has wrote some interesting articles over the last few weeks

His one today on the potential new signing is interesting. He’s basically suggesting that rather than arsenal signing players based on scouting the market all our signings are coming from Sanelhi and his associates like agents and ex colleagues. Clearly he’s concerned about it

There's a suggestion on the blog, but it's fact, isn't it.
We're going the "super-agent" way
It's just 2 different ways of looking for something.

Wenger searching remote jungles in South America and Africa for a cheap herbal cure for his rash, when he could have gone to Boots the Chemist and asked the pharmacist for a tried and tested cream.

Although for us it still boils down to the same thing...
Wait and see what happens and just hope that the itching stops

Meanwhile in NZ Mrs Kiwi says 'what in the world are you rubbing on your private parts. Are you mad.
it stinks.'
Husband who has just come in from repairing the V8 'I read on the internet that a dash of penguin urine plus a large helping of semen from an 8 year old seal can cure anything. Wasn't easy going collecting the samples but I am resilent. I refuse to pay for anything from the bloody chemist. Hes a witch doctor.'

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Meanwhile in NZ Mrs Kiwi says 'what in the world are you rubbing on your private parts. Are you mad.
it stinks.'
Husband who has just come in from repairing the V8 'I read on the internet that a dash of penguin urine plus a large helping of semen from an 8 year old seal can cure anything. Wasn't easy going collecting the samples but I am resilent. I refuse to pay for anything from the bloody chemist. Hes a witch doctor.'

Of course the optimal method would be to know all the ingredients needed to mix up this potion, and then grow them in your own back garden, so that you always have an abundant home-grown supply.

The drawback being that penguins and seals are not the easiest things to grow in your back garden.


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Post #508960  Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:31 am 
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Greeny wrote:
Gaz from Oz wrote:
Meanwhile in NZ Mrs Kiwi says 'what in the world are you rubbing on your private parts. Are you mad.
it stinks.'
Husband who has just come in from repairing the V8 'I read on the internet that a dash of penguin urine plus a large helping of semen from an 8 year old seal can cure anything. Wasn't easy going collecting the samples but I am resilent. I refuse to pay for anything from the bloody chemist. Hes a witch doctor.'

Of course the optimal method would be to know all the ingredients needed to mix up this potion, and then grow them in your own back garden, so that you always have an abundant home-grown supply.

Probably already started construction of the penguin enclosure

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