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Post #505561  Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:20 pm 
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Good goal by Leicester to be fair, Madisson picking up some dangerous positions now.

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We have a full complement of defenders BUT. Where was Kos? So much for marshalling the defense. Can you imagine this team in the CL?

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Got to go 4-4-1 surely and try and get Aubameyang in on a counter.

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Post #505564  Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:22 pm 
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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We have a full complement of defenders BUT. Where was Kos? So much for marshalling the defense. Can you imagine this team in the CL?

Yes but the vision is not a good one.

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Post #505565  Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:23 pm 
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Lets think Watford one man down and they put it to us. For three times that wages they just can't bother at Arsenal

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Post #505566  Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:24 pm 
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I’d swap Xhaka for Tielemans in a heartbeat.

I’d swap any of our creative midfielders for Maddison.

Leicester have better midfielders than us.

The reality hits. We just aren’t that good


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Post #505567  Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:24 pm 
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So 10 minutes of the half, Kos an absolute stupid ball, Mustafi anywhere and totally under the pump , Xhaka with a stupid shot - totally lacking skill and another Xhaka loose touch, no pace in the team. So that is the experienced players - need I say more. Aubameyang has little pace. Do they ever practice 10 agaisnt 11 or 9 against 11 or can't they bother. The send off will give them an excuse.

I think Sokratis has been our worst player today, who you don't mention. He and Koscielny left the goalscorer in acres of space.


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Post #505568  Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:26 pm 
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After reconsidering I think Emery should be sacked.

He's had this team for long enough to make a difference and we look completely *%^@ in every department.


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So 10 minutes of the half, Kos an absolute stupid ball, Mustafi anywhere and totally under the pump , Xhaka with a stupid shot - totally lacking skill and another Xhaka loose touch, no pace in the team. So that is the experienced players - need I say more. Aubameyang has little pace. Do they ever practice 10 agaisnt 11 or 9 against 11 or can't they bother. The send off will give them an excuse.

I think Sokratis has been our worst player today, who you don't mention. He and Koscielny left the goalscorer in acres of space.

I agree he has been ordinary. It is just we seem to have this idea that Kos is our saviour. Unfortunately he is part of the problem.

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I’d swap Xhaka for Tielemans in a heartbeat.

I’d swap any of our creative midfielders for Maddison.

Leicester have better midfielders than us.

The reality hits. We just aren’t that good


I'd take Mark Noble over any of this current lot.


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After reconsidering I think Emery should be sacked.

He's had this team for long enough to make a difference and we look completely *%^@ in every department.

Thats a bit harsh. I will give him until the end of the next transfer window. If Mustafi, Xhaka, Kos and a few others are still at the club I will call for his head.

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Post #505572  Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:33 pm 
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grantyboy wrote:
After reconsidering I think Emery should be sacked.

He's had this team for long enough to make a difference and we look completely *%^@ in every department.


Really ? This is what I mean when I say Emery is on a hiding to nothing.

Completely lop sided squad.

a bunch of creative midfielders only good for making sausages out of.

I hope he gets another year and totally dismantles the squad this summer. This is the most mediocre arsenal side for some time.


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despite being shite I still think we will get at least one big chance before the end.Depends who it falls to as to whether we can take that smirk off Rodgers face.

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Torreira gets Evans' elbow in the face in the penalty area and Vardy gives Sokratis a sly kick in the ribs.


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How many of the Leicester players would walk into our first 11?

Easily Maguire, Chilwell, Tielemans and Maddison. That’s 4, surely that’s an indication of the strength of our squad and how far we have slipped.


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Kroenke OUT

Nothing else worth saying.


That's not an option....unfortunately. I've said years ago, we are stuck with the family for a very, very long time. When the old man passes, we will just have to hope his son, Josh, takes more of an interest.

I recall a few years back I said if we win things its despite Kroenke not because of and got slated for it. Hate being right.

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TOP GUN wrote:
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After reconsidering I think Emery should be sacked.

He's had this team for long enough to make a difference and we look completely *%^@ in every department.


Really ? This is what I mean when I say Emery is on a hiding to nothing.

Completely lop sided squad.

a bunch of creative midfielders only good for making sausages out of.

I hope he gets another year and totally dismantles the squad this summer. This is the most mediocre arsenal side for some time.

And if he does not dismantle in the summer? Last week he said Mustafi was a good player.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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I think Sokratis has been our worst player today, who you don't mention. He and Koscielny left the goalscorer in acres of space.

I agree he has been ordinary. It is just we seem to have this idea that Kos is our saviour. Unfortunately he is part of the problem.

Age has sadly caught up with Koscielny, like Monreal. A fine player alongside Mertesacker, but so far past his peak he now needs to be pensioned off.


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What is Mustafi doing there well out of position.

When is he ever in?

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Looks like we're going to have to win the Europa to get CL football, more importantly money, next season.


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Bernard wrote:
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I agree he has been ordinary. It is just we seem to have this idea that Kos is our saviour. Unfortunately he is part of the problem.

Age has sadly caught up with Koscielny, like Monreal. A fine player alongside Mertesacker, but so far past his peak he now needs to be pensioned off.

Fair comment

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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Really ? This is what I mean when I say Emery is on a hiding to nothing.

Completely lop sided squad.

a bunch of creative midfielders only good for making sausages out of.

I hope he gets another year and totally dismantles the squad this summer. This is the most mediocre arsenal side for some time.

And if he does not dismantle in the summer? Last week he said Mustafi was a good player.


He doesn’t believe that. Flaying him in public helps nobody


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Irrespective of our performance, once again we have a game decided by a referee.
Still embarrassing from us that we can’t put up more of a fight


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Looks like we're going to have to win the Europa to get CL football, more importantly money, next season.

I have my doubts whether we will get past Valencia on these recent performances. Haven't won home or away since Napoli.

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And if he does not dismantle in the summer? Last week he said Mustafi was a good player.


He doesn’t believe that. Flaying him in public helps nobody

Makes me feel better so that is one, anyone else?

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grantyboy wrote:
After reconsidering I think Emery should be sacked.

He's had this team for long enough to make a difference and we look completely *%^@ in every department.


He deserves another year. Bellerin & Holding had taken big steps forward prior to their injury. Lacazette has improved. Bar Liverpool away we've been slightly better against better teams. But he needs to beat Valencia in a big way.

Agree the team looks a mess right now, but it was even worse last year. And, frankly, how many in this squad would you even keep?

Leno, Bellerin, AMN, Sokratis, Holding, Torriera, Xhaka, Özil, Iwobi, Lacazette, Aubameyang, Guendouzi - Maybe Kos, and one of the left backs for a transition period - and some of the kids. Some of those should be squad players at best, and others are projects. We need half a new team.

the rest are mid table level warm bodies at best, and even some of the above are in all honesty at that level.

I want so what an Emery signing looks like and how he wants to shape the team before I write him off. We can all love Pep's vision and tactical genius. But he's never had anything other than brilliant squads and a ton of cash. Let's at least see what Emery can do when the team is q little more his

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Defending simply does not get worse than that. There is something fundamentally wrong with virtually every defender at our club and there has been for 10 years.
You will not see another side in the prem concede a goal from a goal kick like we just did


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And that f%&$#n says it all. A simple long ball and 2 CB's who were shite and a keeper in no mans land. You can add a keeper to the list because that was crap from him.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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He doesn’t believe that. Flaying him in public helps nobody

Makes me feel better so that is one, anyone else?


Chambers
Mustafi
Mhikitaryan
Monreal
Kolasinac
koscielny
Lichtensteiner
Xhaka
El Nenny

Keep Iwobi but I’d loan him next year,

Many who are simply not good enough, when you watch Leicester and are counting players that would walk into your Side you know you hav issues


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And if he does not dismantle in the summer? Last week he said Mustafi was a good player.


He doesn’t believe that. Flaying him in public helps nobody


He keeps trying to drop mustafi, but he's the only one who stays fit!

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Red card or not, we still woulda dropped points ...

Leno really is a great GK though. Shame he has to keep demonstrating that thru lack of defence ... ....


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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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After reconsidering I think Emery should be sacked.

He's had this team for long enough to make a difference and we look completely *%^@ in every department.

Thats a bit harsh. I will give him until the end of the next transfer window. If Mustafi, Xhaka, Kos and a few others are still at the club I will call for his head.


After an entire season of coaching we can't even defend a goal kick. We are totally *%^@ and look even worse than when Emery took over. Spineless and completely disorganised. Bad tactical decisions, poor team selections, the list is starting to grow and I don't think we should be wasting time with a guy who has made zero improvement to Arsenal over a season.


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It is hard to blame the ref although today he has been poor. But when we had 11 on the field we did sweet FA so it is hard to say we should have won if he had stayed on the field. Just have a look at that last goal. We had a full group of defenders - it is just that they were poor.

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3 losses in a row now .... :36angers:


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How easy is it to waltz straight through our defence. 10 men or not have some bloody pride in your performance and put the energy in to get back and make a tackle. Utterly embarrassing from Arsenal.

75% of this squad need bombing out of the club based on attitude when the going gets tough. So few of them have the balls for the fight or are willing to do the dirty work.

For starters we need to completely overhaul the physicality of our team. Every single week we are coming up against teams that our muscle and our sprint us in every area of the pitch


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He doesn’t believe that. Flaying him in public helps nobody


He keeps trying to drop mustafi, but he's the only one who stays fit!

True you have a point. This really was a very poor performance from our team. Kos on for the second half and it was probably a worse half than the first.

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3 losses in a row now .... :36angers:


4 losses in 5 when there is so much to play for.

Blood some kids and kick people like Mki, Özil, Kolasinac and Mustafi to the kerb.


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Really *%^@*** *%^@ week. Three awful performances. I really don't think the majority of the team are good enough for anything more than fifth or sixth position. Nine goals conceded in the last three games tells you all you need to know. First time since 1967 we have conceded three goals in three consecutive games. And if Leno had played like he did at Wolves, Leicester could have had five or six. Total lack of effort and application. Really poor from top to bottom of club. No *%^@*** plan on or off the pitch. *%^@*** jokers, all of them. No right back worth playing. Left back is too old and alternative cannot defend. Mustafi is a car crash waiting to happen. Sokratis getting on, Kos too old. Midfield are a bunch of fannies always falling over, rolling around or sh1%%&ng out of tackles. Good job we won't qualify for ECL because we would get well and truly shafted the first time we came up against a half decent team

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
It is hard to blame the ref although today he has been poor. But when we had 11 on the field we did sweet FA so it is hard to say we should have won if he had stayed on the field. Just have a look at that last goal. We had a full group of defenders - it is just that they were poor.

No doubt, I had this marked down as a defeat before the game started. But for a team as flaky as ours when something goes against us we deserved not to have to put up with that sort of decision from Oliver which took any intrigue over how the game might pan out out of the game.

The way in which we totally collapse after the first set back in any game is the biggest problem on the playing side of the club. Totally weak mentally, but will happily pick up their cheque at the end of the month


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That last goal was utterly disgraceful not a tackle to be seen.

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