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Post #497241  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:16 pm 
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
The most concerning headline I have read today is Emery defending Mustafi and describing him as a very good defender; still young and still improving. FFS there is no evidential basis of that at all.
https://www.goal.com/en/news/i-want-to- ... o5fl0d60w0

I understand his need to deflect the heat from Mustafi but if he truly believes any of this I am very concerned that he intends to keep him..

I'm not going to slag off Emery for not slaughtering his own players in public. That's what Mourinho did at Manchester United, and it lost him the dressing room pretty damn quickly.


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Post #497242  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:09 pm 
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
The most concerning headline I have read today is Emery defending Mustafi and describing him as a very good defender; still young and still improving. FFS there is no evidential basis of that at all.
https://www.goal.com/en/news/i-want-to- ... o5fl0d60w0

I understand his need to deflect the heat from Mustafi but if he truly believes any of this I am very concerned that he intends to keep him..

I'm not going to slag off Emery for not slaughtering his own players in public. That's what Mourinho did at Manchester United, and it lost him the dressing room pretty damn quickly.

From what I’ve seen Emery hasn’t really had the chance to not play mustafi.
Early in the season Koscielny and Mavrapanos were both injured, and Monreal missed a few games.
Then Holding got injured.
Sokratis has missed games with injury and suspension.
I don’t think Emery trusts Mustafi in a back 4, especially when his partner is more junior- so he’s been playing him in the back 5.
Emery has traditionally always played a back 4.
A new CB with Mustafi sold might allow him to do that more next year


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Post #497243  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:47 pm 
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Bernard wrote:
Gaz from Oz wrote:
The most concerning headline I have read today is Emery defending Mustafi and describing him as a very good defender; still young and still improving. FFS there is no evidential basis of that at all.
https://www.goal.com/en/news/i-want-to- ... o5fl0d60w0

I understand his need to deflect the heat from Mustafi but if he truly believes any of this I am very concerned that he intends to keep him..

I'm not going to slag off Emery for not slaughtering his own players in public. That's what Mourinho did at Manchester United, and it lost him the dressing room pretty damn quickly.

Yep. I think Mustafi is crap but I wouldn't want Emery to criticise any of his players in public. As you suggest, it benefits no one.

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Post #497244  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:58 pm 
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Aubameyang not in the squad tonight - injured or rested, I don't know.
Looks like a 4-2-3-1 formation with Kos and Sok at centre back and Mustafi on the bench. Özil behind Lacazette.


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Post #497245  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:12 pm 
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Aubameyang not in the squad tonight - injured or rested, I don't know.
Looks like a 4-2-3-1 formation with Kos and Sok at centre back and Mustafi on the bench. Özil behind Lacazette.

If Aubameyang is unavailable that’s the team I would have wanted to see.
Wolves play 3 at the back with their wing backs instrumental in all their attacking play. Neves and Moutinho like time on the ball and big switches of play to the wing backs. We must get on top of those two and not give them time to pick their passes. Going to need a big shift from the 5 mids behind Lacazette


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Post #497246  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:20 pm 
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Rich wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
Aubameyang not in the squad tonight - injured or rested, I don't know.
Looks like a 4-2-3-1 formation with Kos and Sok at centre back and Mustafi on the bench. Özil behind Lacazette.

If Aubameyang is unavailable that’s the team I would have wanted to see.
Wolves play 3 at the back with their wing backs instrumental in all their attacking play. Neves and Moutinho like time on the ball and big switches of play to the wing backs. We must get on top of those two and not give them time to pick their passes. Going to need a big shift from the 5 mids behind Lacazette

The side looks well balanced on paper, I much prefer us with a back 4. But they've got to deliver a big performance as you suggest.


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Post #497247  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:01 pm 
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Loads of possession but not doing enough with it. No end product.


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Post #497248  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:08 pm 
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Loads of possession but not doing enough with it. No end product.

Exactly. Few chances to pull the trigger and nothing. Wolves break and have the first proper shot, decent chance


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Post #497249  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:14 pm 
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Typical.

1-0 Wolves


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Post #497250  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:14 pm 
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Wolves score a free kick. Foul that was more a tangle of legs immediately after Mkhitaryan was fouled at the other end


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Post #497251  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:16 pm 
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Monreal is a *%^@ defender these days.


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Post #497252  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:16 pm 
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Such a typical away performance. All the ball but no threat. Opposition score with first shot on target.

Can’t see us getting anything from this game. We simply do not win away games and nice we go behind.

Wolves are totally comfortable defending against us then they break with pace.


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Post #497253  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:21 pm 
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We just don't look like scoring, lots of pretty passes but no cutting edge.

Our build-up play is too slow.


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Post #497254  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:22 pm 
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Wolves are far more dynamic despite having less of the ball


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Post #497255  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:23 pm 
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Honestly our finishing at times is woeful. How often do we shoot with only a small chance of scoring but fail to even get it on target? What are we thinking? Hit them hard and on target, make the gk make a save and follow in or get a deflection. Ours always end up so high and wide


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Post #497256  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:23 pm 
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2-0 Wolves. Leno comes for cross and completely misses it.

We are a bunch of cowards.


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Post #497257  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:23 pm 
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2-0. We need a miracle from here.


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Post #497258  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:24 pm 
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Totally crumbled since the goal. Pathetic attitude

1 bloody defender playing 4 wolves players onside


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Post #497259  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:25 pm 
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I’ve seen this sodding game far too many times to care for.

All the ball but totally toothless, opposition so efficient and dangerous.

Kiss goodbye to top 4. These away games were always going to be way too much for our fragile confidence


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Post #497260  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:27 pm 
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Torreira so clearly fouled 25 yards out. Exactly where wolves got their free kick. Nothing given


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Post #497261  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:31 pm 
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Bernard says I moan too much about the defence all the time but we are bloody useless both individually and collectively. We have gifted them one goal and arguably the wall failed to do its job for the first as well.

Add to that a lack of urgency, incisiveness and end product when we do get ourselves in good positions and its a recipe for disaster.


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Post #497262  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:32 pm 
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No cutting edge at all, no end product. I mean not even an attempt at an end product.

What are we expecting to happen?


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Post #497263  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:32 pm 
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*%^@ keeping from Leno again. 3-0.

Poor play from Xhaka to begin with.

A complete and utter shambles.

I can't watch this anymore. I'm off to watch the United game.


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Post #497264  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:33 pm 
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Jesus christ what an embarrassment. 3 zip before half time.


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Post #497265  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:33 pm 
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shocker 3-0


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Post #497266  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:34 pm 
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This is worse than the Man U performance v Everton.

This team stinks


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Post #497267  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:36 pm 
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I wonder if Emery will sub out "Jay" Leno? If we were to win the Europa cup but have a dismal rest of the league season, I'd still feel a ways about being in the CL again.

Oh well.

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Post #497268  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:38 pm 
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*%^@*** embarrassing
Started well and just collapsed after a free kick from neves who has been banging them in from all angles.
We were never going to make top 4 with all these tricky away games.
We can forget it now.
Even if we did make it what impact are we going to make in the champions league anyway
Just embarrassing


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Post #497269  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:38 pm 
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There is no excuse for this. Wolves are good but with the team we have there is no reason why we can’t play like them. I’m actually jealous of the style of play of wolves.

Mistakes all over the pitch. Leno having his worst game all season. Defence all over the place. Goal difference being wiped out. Midfield sloppy. Zero shots on goal. Zero even attempts at an assist. Zero attempts at crosses.......and 75% of the sodding ball!

Where on earth do we go from here? Champions league won’t happen with the league position. It will take a miracle to win Europa. No money for new signings, high earners sucking the life out of the club.

I’d swap half this wolves team for our starting 11


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Post #497270  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:39 pm 
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The fact that the collapse was so obviously coming after they scored their first is excruciating.

Where is the pride? Where is the fight? Where are the leaders?


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Post #497271  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:39 pm 
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socrates wrote:
Bernard says I moan too much about the defence all the time but we are bloody useless both individually and collectively. We have gifted them one goal and arguably the wall failed to do its job for the first as well.

Add to that a lack of urgency, incisiveness and end product when we do get ourselves in good positions and its a recipe for disaster.

I realise he had to retire due to age but we're much worse without Mertesacker, as I proved statistically. Whether you like it or not, we're missing his authority, calmness, leadership and organisation. Mertesacker was such an important player for this club.


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Post #497272  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:41 pm 
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Diabolical to get ourselves in a decent position and just blow it in the most spectacular fashion


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Post #497273  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:41 pm 
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I’ve turned off. Can’t be bothered to watch the second half. Joke team.

Never seen such a group of bottlers away from home


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Post #497274  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:43 pm 
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It’s going to give our goal advantage away ffs.


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Our season on the line and we don’t show up. A f...ing spineless performance from what is ...absent Aubameyang our best team...This is beyond embarrassing. The manager and players have failed to do their jobs. I hate losing but i’ll live with it if we go down fighting. This is sickening because we were pathetic. Tippy Tao toothless football. Wolves watch it for a bit and think f me. Let’s go up their end and score a few.

I saw that free kick from 3000 miles away. A big gaping gap to the goalies right just waiting for a competent player to put it there.
Then one man marking two for a short corner giving one of them plenty of time to measure a cross. Offside but that’s the way the cookie crumbles.
Third goal weak in midfield and a top goalie would have saved it.

Oh for a Tony Adams or Frank McClintock. Leaders fighters give their all for the cause. This bunch of pussies make me sick..
We aren’t good enough at every level throughout the whole club. Ownership manager coaches players.
I’m sick at what my beloved club has become.


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Post #497276  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:50 pm 
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When I look at centre backs of nearly every other team in the prem I wonder if they would make typically arsenal type mistakes if we signed them?
I mean the likes of Coady, Tomkins, Dunk, Lascelles - all decent prem level defenders coached in defending. What if two of those were our CBS?


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Post #497277  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:52 pm 
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2nd goal wasn’t offside. Sokratis stayed in playing 4 onside. Just as Jenkinson did v palace


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Post #497278  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:55 pm 
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Andy Green wrote:
Our season on the line and we don’t show up. A f...ing spineless performance from what is ...absent Aubameyang our best team...This is beyond embarrassing. The manager and players have failed to do their jobs. I hate losing but i’ll live with it if we go down fighting. This is sickening because we were pathetic. Tippy Tao toothless football. Wolves watch it for a bit and think f me. Let’s go up their end and score a few.

I saw that free kick from 3000 miles away. A big gaping gap to the goalies right just waiting for a competent player to put it there.
Then one man marking two for a short corner giving one of them plenty of time to measure a cross. Offside but that’s the way the cookie crumbles.
Third goal weak in midfield and a top goalie would have saved it.

Oh for a Tony Adams or Frank McClintock. Leaders fighters give their all for the cause. This bunch of pussies make me sick..
We aren’t good enough at every level throughout the whole club. Ownership manager coaches players.
I’m sick at what my beloved club has become.


I reckon Adams, Bould and Keown could do a better job now even at their ages. I'm only half joking as well. We'd certainly be more organised and more resiliant.


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Post #497279  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:57 pm 
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That list of players I put up earlier of who might potentially leave and what price we might get. I would absolutely bite your hand off for even 75% of those values to just get all those players out of the club


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I don't understand Leno, he's looked a worldbeater lately but tonight he looks second-rate, and that's being kind.


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