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Post #492681  Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:53 pm 
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Quiz question: When did Arsenal last score twice in the league at OT?

Scrub that, I just saw the answer. I had erased that game from memory.

I was going to say, it was quite recent.


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Bernard wrote:
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Scrub that, I just saw the answer. I had erased that game from memory.

I was going to say, it was quite recent.

Yeah I thought it was at least 20 years ago.

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A decent point really as Manchester United were much improved tonight. If that came from a direct consequence of dropping Pogba and Lukaku, then credit to Mourinho. Not a bad display from us, but really frustrating to concede their equalisers so quickly after scoring. Ridiculously quickly after the second.

I didn't think there were any bad displays by Arsenal players, though in my view Guendouzi and Torreira were a cut above the rest. I think we missed Xhaka today, and for our most important games I'd like to see Guendouzi, Torreira and Xhaka in the same team. I hope Özil isn't finished at the club. We needed his creativity today.


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2007.

Thanks Niall. 11 long years. What a job Emery has done so far.

Yes he has been superb. No complaints thus far.

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A decent point really as Manchester United were much improved tonight. If that came from a direct consequence of dropping Pogba and Lukaku, then credit to Mourinho. Not a bad display from us, but really frustrating to concede their equalisers so quickly after scoring. Ridiculously quickly after the second.

I didn't think there were any bad displays by Arsenal players, though in my view Guendouzi and Torreira were a cut above the rest. I think we missed Xhaka today, and for our most important games I'd like to see Guendouzi, Torreira and Xhaka in the same team. I hope Özil isn't finished at the club. We needed his creativity today.

Agree with all that, I also thought Aubameyang was excellent second half and is a better all round player than I thought when we signed him.

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Post #492686  Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:48 pm 
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Another thing I find hugely frustrating is Guendouzi's tendency to fall over when under pressure in dangerous areas and try to buy a foul. He's a top top talent but he can't keep doing it because he's not going to get away with it forever.

It takes a very experienced player to buy a foul in those situations


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If a gkhas it in one hand, can a player head it out of his hand like Lacazette did? What is the rule against this?


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Post #492688  Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:28 am 
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Emery's Arsenal unlucky tonight. Totally undermined by injuries, Rojo could have been sent off twice. Fellaini's hair pull is technically a red. Lacazette's goal not illegal. Herrera offside for Utd. Typical for an away team at OT. With VAR we win the game by two or three goals. Can't wait for it to come in.

More worried about Holding's injury. Sounds like a serious one, just as he was establishing himself as nailed on first choice. Who knows how long til Kos is really fit...do we then have to dip into Mavropanos when he's fit, or Plezeguelo or even Zech Medley? Whether its recalling Chambers or a signing, if Holding is out for a long time another centre half in January is vital.

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If a gkhas it in one hand, can a player head it out of his hand like Lacazette did? What is the rule against this?

It is against the rules. From the laws of the game:

A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball when:
• the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface
(e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands
or arms except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper
has made a save
• holding the ball in the outstretched open hand
• bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air
A goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent when in control of
the ball with the hands.


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And yes, forgot to mention Holding yesterday. Gutted if it's a bad injury, he was having a fine season. Hate when that happens to young players who are playing themselves into the team.


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With VAR we win the game by two or three goals. Can't wait for it to come in.

do we then have to dip into Mavropanos when he's fit, or Plezeguelo or even Zech Medley

Isn't VAR supposed to change clear errors, or whatever the terminology is? With United's first equaliser, the bloke who set up the scorer was technically offside. But it was so tight that by what I think of as clear or obvious, it wasn't.

I was really impressed with Medley when he came on as a sub in Kiev. But you've probably seen more of him than me and you sound less keen. Did his appearance that day give me a false impression of him?


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Nobody mentioned the first goal. Blatant dive but not shown again so can't be 100%. Agree with Lom we really need VAR butcwould it have been used forcthecfree kick?


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Emery's Arsenal unlucky tonight. Totally undermined by injuries, Rojo could have been sent off twice. Fellaini's hair pull is technically a red. Lacazette's goal not illegal. Herrera offside for Utd. Typical for an away team at OT. With VAR we win the game by two or three goals. Can't wait for it to come in.

More worried about Holding's injury. Sounds like a serious one, just as he was establishing himself as nailed on first choice. Who knows how long til Kos is really fit...do we then have to dip into Mavropanos when he's fit, or Plezeguelo or even Zech Medley? Whether its recalling Chambers or a signing, if Holding is out for a long time another centre half in January is vital.


I agree about Rojo, although to be fair Torreira probably got way with a few yellow card challenges.


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Emery's Arsenal unlucky tonight. Totally undermined by injuries, Rojo could have been sent off twice. Fellaini's hair pull is technically a red. Lacazette's goal not illegal. Herrera offside for Utd. Typical for an away team at OT. With VAR we win the game by two or three goals. Can't wait for it to come in.

More worried about Holding's injury. Sounds like a serious one, just as he was establishing himself as nailed on first choice. Who knows how long til Kos is really fit...do we then have to dip into Mavropanos when he's fit, or Plezeguelo or even Zech Medley? Whether its recalling Chambers or a signing, if Holding is out for a long time another centre half in January is vital.


I think a top quality CB is one of a few key signings we need to make to move the team up a level but I suspect that unless diamond eye has identified someone flying under the radar it may be too much to hope for a topclass CB in January.


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Nobody mentioned the first goal. Blatant dive but not shown again so can't be 100%. Agree with Lom we really need VAR butcwould it have been used forcthecfree kick?


I don't think it can, otherwise you would consulting VAR about indiscretions most of the match. What might work is if a team has say three challenges they can use during a game. If their challenege proves correct they retain all three but if not they lose one etc. Problem is the time element, do we really want to be stopping and starting the game every time a team makes a challenge.


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A decent point really as Manchester United were much improved tonight. If that came from a direct consequence of dropping Pogba and Lukaku, then credit to Mourinho. Not a bad display from us, but really frustrating to concede their equalisers so quickly after scoring. Ridiculously quickly after the second.

I didn't think there were any bad displays by Arsenal players, though in my view Guendouzi and Torreira were a cut above the rest. I think we missed Xhaka today, and for our most important games I'd like to see Guendouzi, Torreira and Xhaka in the same team. I hope Özil isn't finished at the club. We needed his creativity today.

Agree with all that, I also thought Aubameyang was excellent second half and is a better all round player than I thought when we signed him.

I think it was a given that a) Man U would be much improved, certainly in work rate and b) Arsenal wouldn't be able to reach the heights of energy and tempo seen vs spurs.
It was probably easier for Man U to get up for last nights game given we were the opposition, it became a matter of pride for them.

Worried about the injuries stacking up, We're down to the bare bones in defence and a new CB has become the priority in the January window


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I thought Kolasinac was pretty good last night despite his error. He's very powerful on the overlap and although some of his final balls were a little wayward he looked more of a threat than Bellerin.


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Pulling hair foul to stop an opponent????

Aren’t there precedents for a red card?


Indeed there are:

https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/arsenal-leicester-establish-ban-precedent-for-fellaini-pulling-guendouzis-hair/

Fellaini has previous.


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DHD wrote:
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Pulling hair foul to stop an opponent????

Aren’t there precedents for a red card?


Indeed there are:

https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/arsenal-leicester-establish-ban-precedent-for-fellaini-pulling-guendouzis-hair/

Fellaini has previous.

Do we have any faith in the FA to be consistent with a clearly set precedent? I'd be amazed if Fellaini gets a ban


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Next 4: Huddersfield (h), Southampton (a), Burnley (h), Brighton (a). Really need to push on and get 4 wins from 4 from these.


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There was clear contact by Guendozi on Martial. Martial made the most of it, but it's a definite free kick in my book. Would've been furious if we didn't get a free kick in a similiar situation.

Fellaini should definitely be suspended though. Such a nothing player, only thing he contributes with is being tall and getting away with a lot of fouls.

Guendozi had an interesting game. I thought he started quite poorly but really grew into the game. For such a young and inexperienced player the way he wants to constantly get involved even in a big game like this is impressive. Never satisfied with being a passenger.


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I take it you don't have a link?


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Rich wrote:

Worried about the injuries stacking up, We're down to the bare bones in defence and a new CB has become the priority in the January window


I thouht I read that Kos should/could be back on Saturday........................


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Mustafi, Sokratis and Torreira are 1 yellow card away from a 1 game suspension. Cards don't get wiped until Dec 31st, so 5 more games to navigate. If Holding is out for a while we need Koscielny back asap


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Immensely proud of the players for what can only be described as an impressive display this week. They have fought for everything and it was the first display at old Trafford in many years when we actually competed and I thought we should have won the game.

Shout out for Mhikitaryan who did well when he came on I thought as well as the others like Guendozi who was also superb.

Were are competing in these difficult games now and the turnaround Emery has providedis remarkable.

For the first time in years this is a team you can get behind.


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Immensely proud of the players for what can only be described as an impressive display this week. They have fought for everything and it was the first display at old Trafford in many years when we actually competed and I thought we should have won the game.

Shout out for Mhikitaryan who did well when he came on I thought as well as the others like Guendozi who was also superb.

Were are competing in these difficult games now and the turnaround Emery has providedis remarkable.

For the first time in years this is a team you can get behind.


About to watch the game but have to agree. Seeing a 2 - 2 result at OT Is nothing to be sniffed at. They always get the rub of the green up there regardless of how they play before or during the match. Emery's first season and huge strides forward from the previous pillock. 4 points from Totts at home and Man U away. A draw vs Liverpool. We're competing with those top rivals that always used to crumble against.


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Next 4: Huddersfield (h), Southampton (a), Burnley (h), Brighton (a). Really need to push on and get 4 wins from 4 from these.

That would leave us with 43 points at the halfway mark, which would be an incredible step forward. Even losing one of those games and winning the three others would leave us on pace for 80 points. I would've bitten the hand off of anyone who offered that at the start of the season.


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Next 4: Huddersfield (h), Southampton (a), Burnley (h), Brighton (a). Really need to push on and get 4 wins from 4 from these.


Soton away is never easy...for us or or for most clubs. Like you, I'd love 4 wins but 3 wins and a draw wouldn't surprise me.

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What's the word on the knocks and injuries that happened last night? I hope nothing serious.

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And now having watched it, bloody unlucky not to win.
Emery came in, added some hardness and experience to the defence and look at the result. Something us ignorant fans without 20 years of experience could see for a decade. Like most have said, still a work in progress but a team who give their all and what more to expect.


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Next 4: Huddersfield (h), Southampton (a), Burnley (h), Brighton (a). Really need to push on and get 4 wins from 4 from these.

That would leave us with 43 points at the halfway mark, which would be an incredible step forward. Even losing one of those games and winning the three others would leave us on pace for 80 points. I would've bitten the hand off of anyone who offered that at the start of the season.


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No mention on Ref Watch of the foul leading to the first goal.

It is mentioned on other forums and the link about Fellaini.


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Nobody mentioned the first goal. Blatant dive but not shown again so can't be 100%. Agree with Lom we really need VAR butcwould it have been used forcthecfree kick?


I don't think it can, otherwise you would consulting VAR about indiscretions most of the match. What might work is if a team has say three challenges they can use during a game. If their challenege proves correct they retain all three but if not they lose one etc. Problem is the time element, do we really want to be stopping and starting the game every time a team makes a challenge.


No. VAR is enough.


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Grim, as always, listening to McManaman. Moaning whinging git. Nothing is ever up to his exacting standards. Adds nothing to the commentary that is of any value.


Thought he was kind of a dick of a player too with an overinflated reputation.


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One main thing Emery has brought in is hunger though. Because the players know that anyone of them can be dragged off at any time even at half time so they seem to be giving 100%. This simple thing has increased competition for places and everybody is fighting for the result now. It’s visible

Penny for your thoughts Arsene on this weeks performances

Also the 70 million we spent on leno and the new signings looks staggeringly good value.


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The premier league have given our second goal as an own goal, but there are replays doing the rounds on the internet that clearly show the final touch coming off Lacazette’s shin as he is tackled.

Perhaps Lacazette should swear on his kids life it touched him last and the premier league can change their mind and award it to him..... :icon_eek1:


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Spurs only had 33,000 in at Wembley last night. That’s fewer than they got in the old white hart lane.


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I'm going to come off as a worry wort but I think we may see performances fall off in the upcoming games. We have just had 2 emotionally and physically taxing matches. Most players won't get up for a Huddersfield Town. However, a Huddersfield Town will be up for a big club at the Emirates. I think the squad may struggle at the start and we may even find ourselves in the all too common occurrence these days of being down a goal in the first half.
We will beat them. It's Soton away that worries me.

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I don't think it can, otherwise you would consulting VAR about indiscretions most of the match. What might work is if a team has say three challenges they can use during a game. If their challenege proves correct they retain all three but if not they lose one etc. Problem is the time element, do we really want to be stopping and starting the game every time a team makes a challenge.


No. VAR is enough.

Indeed. And the goal would have been disqualified with VAR due to the offside.

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Really recommend this, it's a translated interview with Sven Mislintat. Talks about his general approach to scouting but also goes in-depth about certain players like Guendozi.

Sven Mislintat wrote:
Guendouzi stud out with his long hair and his personality. But I also concentrated on his weaknesses. Are they trainable? Matteo ran unnecessarily across the whole pitch, but I was sure: It's only a matter of training and time, before he learns when to run.


This is something I've thought about when watching Guendozi as well. His positioning isn't great yet and he sometimes gets in the way of other players because he tries to be everywhere at the same time, but those are all qualities you can learn. He's got so much of the stuff you can't teach, so much natural ability that if he's just properly coached he's bound to become absolutely top class.


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