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Post #472281  Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:08 am 
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Not true Gazidis. Professional sports ownership in America has been seen as a viable investment option along traditional asset investments.

http://www.espnfc.co.uk/arsenal/story/3 ... an-gazidis

Kroenke has faced increasing criticism from Arsenal supporters in recent years, with some fans viewing him as an absentee owner who is more interested in profit than trophies.

"He hasn't put debt on the football club," Gazidis said. "He's been nothing but supportive. If you think it's all about money, there are far more easier ways than owning sports teams.


He's worth something like $7BN so he's not doing too badly out of sports investments.

Ivan is right though there are far easier ways to make money - like being a puppet CEO who is basically a mouthpiece for our absantee 'owner'.

Can't wait for the Kroenke out planes next season, far more interesting than anything that happens on the field.

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Can't wait for the Kroenke out planes next season, far more interesting than anything that happens on the field.

:7laughter:

Dunno about you but I still quite enjoy going, watching the team and having a laugh with those around me. Always a good day out and the day it stops being that is when I'll stop going.

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Post #472283  Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:59 pm 
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Darren wrote:
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Can't wait for the Kroenke out planes next season, far more interesting than anything that happens on the field.

:7laughter:

Dunno about you but I still quite enjoy going, watching the team and having a laugh with those around me. Always a good day out and the day it stops being that is when I'll stop going.


Do I still enjoy going. Well the answer to that is yes. Why? Reasons. I've supported the club for decades so I suppose on that score it's just habitual. I enjoy going with Luke, Neill and his Son Jamie, both home and away. I enjoy some of the games. I go in the hope that the team will perform, even if they lose to a better team on the day. The issue for me is how it's all become so boring and stale. Same old tired football, that was changed when it become necessary. You get the odd good game that you come away taking about with pleasure. Even many of the games we won, we really poor. Ramsey ( a player I like) says they (the players) were all behind Arsene and his new contract. Well they did not play like they were behind him last season until the last 10 games. Two games v City and Chelsea the team played well, you felt they could win. Away games v Stoke and Saints they were on holiday.

Maybe we were fed on some of the best football you and I have ever seen under Wenger that the drop in play, players has made us greedy for more. yet I enjoyed the seasons from 92-95 better than the tosh served up last season and the season before if I honest. Football goes in cycles so our turn will come again, that I'm sure, but I think that would come quicker under new management.

If the club are serious about wanting to reach 85+ points and challenge in Europe then they have to show it. It's no good spinning it every summer, coming out with sound bites to appease the fans, because the fans have heard it all before. The fans want action now. They are not being led up the path anymore. Gazidis thinks we are right mugs, that most apart from the deluded Graham Perry who talks for longer than Katie Perry sings will suck it up. Well the fans won't. If club want harmony on the terraces, put into practice what you preach. Then the fans will show you harmony.


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...Then the fans will show you harmony.
This is harmony!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXnfS5z ... zelhc#t=27

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old man of hoy wrote:
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...Then the fans will show you harmony.
This is harmony!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXnfS5z ... zelhc#t=27

On the other hand, the season might turn out like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XidgJdRs74

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old man of hoy wrote:

On the other hand, the season might turn out like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XidgJdRs74
Very good vibrations from that. Thanks.

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Its Friday - try this something different for size.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZFG1yAxjdQ

'Well that goes t’ show you what uh moon can do'

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American sports owners don't do too badly. Plus, its a socialistic league. We were doing revenue sharing for decades. The former owner of the LA Clippers was infamous for years of not investing in the club, lowest payroll of players, etc. and would get a check for at least 20 million (years ago) and increasing every year just for his clubs share of all the leagues merchandising. He bought the club for 20 million ended up (in a forced sale) of a few billion.

Kroenke is not in sports because he's a huge fan. Its a good investment. American sports team appreciate well and in value.


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You'll like this or you'll not and probably know before you get to the link.

Arsenal photographer David Price* talking about photos and being kind of self taught and becoming an Arsenal photographer.

https://soundcloud.com/arrestallmimics/ep66

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Post #472290  Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:01 am 
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
Sadly your comments mirror the way the club is run. In a couple of days, pre season training commences but we have no idea whether Gibbs, Alexis, the Ox, Özil, Wilshire will even be Arsenal players on the first day of the season. Then we go on tour and this is the time to start preparing for the season, look at some of the marginal players and get people into the right frame of mind. Combinations are formed and players should be sold the plan for the year. 'Our priorities are 1. EPL 2. UEFA cup' but Wenger doesn't like preseason tours so time is lost and it is ticking closer to the start of the season. Where is your corporate and strategic plan for 2017-2018.
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It is a ridiculously simplistic analysis to say the whole outcome of last season hinged on the result of the opening loss to Liverpool, as it is equally inaccurate to say we were not ready for the season. After that loss,and any team can lose to Liverpool, ECL and League Cup ties. To say we were underprepared for the start of the season is just not supported by the facts. Our problems came later in the campaign.
it looks like one or two others are being sought. We are not privy to the discussions between clubs, but again to suggest we are not active in the transfer market seems wide of the mark. Although we may not know what is going to happen with certain players that doesn't mean the club isn't clear about it. However we should never forget it takes three to make any transfer deal. Look around, not a lot has happened anywhere yet.


You two guys should start up a forum of your own ... having to sort through all the twaddle posted by others must somewhat of a distraction . :icon_mrgreen:

Bollocks to Arsenal ...All Blacks v the British and Irish Lions tonight will be a cracker .

Lions talking it up , taking a hard nosed approach I wouldn't be surprised to see a bit of biff and not sure we'd get the best of it , the Lions have some fairly big units .


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It is a ridiculously simplistic analysis to say the whole outcome of last season hinged on the result of the opening loss to Liverpool, as it is equally inaccurate to say we were not ready for the season. After that loss,and any team can lose to Liverpool, ECL and League Cup ties. To say we were underprepared for the start of the season is just not supported by the facts. Our problems came later in the campaign.
it looks like one or two others are being sought. We are not privy to the discussions between clubs, but again to suggest we are not active in the transfer market seems wide of the mark. Although we may not know what is going to happen with certain players that doesn't mean the club isn't clear about it. However we should never forget it takes three to make any transfer deal. Look around, not a lot has happened anywhere yet.


You two guys should start up a forum of your own ... having to sort through all the twaddle posted by others must somewhat of a distraction . :icon_mrgreen:

Bollocks to Arsenal ...All Blacks v the British and Irish Lions tonight will be a cracker .

Lions talking it up , taking a hard nosed approach I wouldn't be surprised to see a bit of biff and not sure we'd get the best of it , the Lions have some fairly big units .

Hoy will not be available for comment for the rest of the weekend because I expect he will be at the Messi wedding. Then next week upon his return he will be busy with the submission regarding my knighthood.

In relation to the rugby game I prefer to think of it as Lions v A combined South Pacific Islanders team.

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Good morning all. So the transfer window opens today - and I'm sick of it already.
But also today one of my favourite sporting events, the Tour de France begins, so I'll be settling down to 3 weeks of that and hoping that when it ends we've done some significant business.
C'mon Froome!


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Yaya Sanogo departs

Arsenal have released 24-year old French forward Yaya Sanogo from the club. He becomes player number 7 to leave the club this season.


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Post #472294  Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:16 am 

bromley gooner wrote:
Good morning all. So the transfer window opens today - and I'm sick of it already.
But also today one of my favourite sporting events, the Tour de France begins, so I'll be settling down to 3 weeks of that and hoping that when it ends we've done some significant business.
C'mon Froome!

I take next to no interest in the Tour de France or other cycling events. The only cyclists I could name are Eddie Mercx from long ago (not sure if that was how his name was spelled as I didn't look it up before doing the post), Bradley Wiggins and some bloke called Lance (was it Armstrong) who was later found to have been taking performance enhancing drugs which tarnished his reputation. I assume there must be some bloke called Froome, but it was only reading your post that alerted me to him.

Yet why in some years does the route cover areas outside France? I'm sure there was a year not that long ago where bits of it were in England, or is that the only example of it not being wholly in France?

EDIT: Apparently one year a stage of it was in Holland as well.


  
 
 
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Gaz from Oz wrote:

In relation to the rugby game I prefer to think of it as Lions v A combined South Pacific Islanders team.


ha ha :laughing7: nice try .......

Quade Cooper ,Narika Koribete , Eto Nabuli , Lukhan Tui , Tevita Kuridrani , Alan Alaatatoa , Sekope Kepu , Silototu Latu . Lopeti Timani , Tatafu Polota-Nau ,Sefa Naivulu

......... guess which team these guys play for .... some outfit based out of Nuku-alofa called the Wallabies .

...... then we throw in Dingo Deans , "Aussie" Kim Clysters , Jelena Dokic ..... what is the criteria these days for decent sportsman to represent Australia .... spend half a day in a Sydney Hotel .

On to the rugby ...terrible game our half back and five eight just would not stop kicking the ball away .
..and as for that moron Money Bill Williams ...... **&^^$%$#$$$ half wit

Well done to the Lions ; I was glad they won ....at least they tried to play rugby .


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In relation to the rugby game I prefer to think of it as Lions v A combined South Pacific Islanders team.


ha ha :laughing7: nice try .......

Quade Cooper ,Narika Koribete , Eto Nabuli , Lukhan Tui , Tevita Kuridrani , Alan Alaatatoa , Sekope Kepu , Silototu Latu . Lopeti Timani , Tatafu Polota-Nau ,Sefa Naivulu

......... guess which team these guys play for .... some outfit based out of Nuku-alofa called the Wallabies .

...... then we throw in Dingo Deans , "Aussie" Kim Clysters , Jelena Dokic ..... what is the criteria these days for decent sportsman to represent Australia .... spend half a day in a Sydney Hotel .

On to the rugby ...terrible game our half back and five eight just would not stop kicking the ball away .
..and as for that moron Money Bill Williams ...... **&^^$%$#$$$ half wit

Well done to the Lions ; I was glad they won ....at least they tried to play rugby .

Cut me some slack here. I was sitting here trying to bait Hoy, you turn up on the forum and like a junkie I have an overwhelming urge to respond. I think I will see how Kiwi is going today. It will tell you how much rugby I have watched recently that I only knew Quade Coopers name.

Still if Wenger got off his arse and actually did something I would not need to resort to these posts. Any comments Hoy?

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Bernard wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
Good morning all. So the transfer window opens today - and I'm sick of it already.
But also today one of my favourite sporting events, the Tour de France begins, so I'll be settling down to 3 weeks of that and hoping that when it ends we've done some significant business.
C'mon Froome!

I take next to no interest in the Tour de France or other cycling events. The only cyclists I could name are Eddie Mercx from long ago (not sure if that was how his name was spelled as I didn't look it up before doing the post), Bradley Wiggins and some bloke called Lance (was it Armstrong) who was later found to have been taking performance enhancing drugs which tarnished his reputation. I assume there must be some bloke called Froome, but it was only reading your post that alerted me to him.

Yet why in some years does the route cover areas outside France? I'm sure there was a year not that long ago where bits of it were in England, or is that the only example of it not being wholly in France?

EDIT: Apparently one year a stage of it was in Holland as well.

Morning Bernard. Yes, a bloke called Chris Froome is riding for team Sky. He has won 3 of the last 4 tours, an event that is the pinnacle for road cycling. I must say I am surprised you haven't even heard of him.
I very much enjoy the sport, which once you understand what's going on (it took me a while) can be very compelling. Actually, aside from the football and the more interesting cricket contests, it's probably my favourite sport viewing.


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Yaya Sanogo departs

Arsenal have released 24-year old French forward Yaya Sanogo from the club. He becomes player number 7 to leave the club this season.


Why didn't we give him some of that Sanchez money to stay? Wenger out!!

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Yaya Sanogo departs

Arsenal have released 24-year old French forward Yaya Sanogo from the club. He becomes player number 7 to leave the club this season.


Why didn't we give him some of that Sanchez money to stay? Wenger out!!


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Post #472300  Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:30 am 

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Bernard wrote:
I take next to no interest in the Tour de France or other cycling events. The only cyclists I could name are Eddie Mercx from long ago (not sure if that was how his name was spelled as I didn't look it up before doing the post), Bradley Wiggins and some bloke called Lance (was it Armstrong) who was later found to have been taking performance enhancing drugs which tarnished his reputation. I assume there must be some bloke called Froome, but it was only reading your post that alerted me to him.

Yet why in some years does the route cover areas outside France? I'm sure there was a year not that long ago where bits of it were in England, or is that the only example of it not being wholly in France?

EDIT: Apparently one year a stage of it was in Holland as well.

Morning Bernard. Yes, a bloke called Chris Froome is riding for team Sky. He has won 3 of the last 4 tours, an event that is the pinnacle for road cycling. I must say I am surprised you haven't even heard of him.
I very much enjoy the sport, which once you understand what's going on (it took me a while) can be very compelling. Actually, aside from the football and the more interesting cricket contests, it's probably my favourite sport viewing.

So am I if he's won three of the last four. Suppose it just shows how I mentally switch off immediately I hear anything to do with cycling mentioned.

So what's the issue with parts of the tour sometimes being in countries other than France?


  
 
 
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So am I if he's won three of the last four. Suppose it just shows how I mentally switch off immediately I hear anything to do with cycling mentioned.

So what's the issue with parts of the tour sometimes being in countries other than France?

I don't know how that started, but the Tour has visited most of the countries neighbouring France, usually only for 1 or 2 stages over a 3 week race. Being a professional sport, I presume that it's good for publicity, with the sport being very popular across continental Europe.


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Sounds like Lacazette is happening then.

Good signing in addition to Sanchez.

Poor signing if he is to replace Sanchez.

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Can't wait for the Kroenke out planes next season, far more interesting than anything that happens on the field.

:7laughter:

Dunno about you but I still quite enjoy going, watching the team and having a laugh with those around me. Always a good day out and the day it stops being that is when I'll stop going.


Noted post number for about five months into season when your zen-off with Hoy comes to a sharp end.

Anyway listen. guys, I really get it. You're just too calm and sensible to wet the bed over a football team and it's not - you're quite correct - like living under siege in Aleppo. Some people take the whole thing a bit far and are embarrassing. Perhaps they should try a bit of sudoku, make a few lists about long-gone players, some gentle puns involving types of cheese, and express their lust for big bosomed stars of the screen. It might get the blood pressure down I agree.

Doesn't alter the fact Wenger's an arrogant stubborn egotistical d******* and the board are an absolute bunch of incompetent *%^@.


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Well, seems we have our striker. A few years too late but at least its a significant buy for a much needed position. If we get the winger and LB, and manage to keep Bellerin, we're going to have a squad that has skill and a shed load of pace down the flanks.

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Well, seems we have our striker. A few years too late but at least its a significant buy for a much needed position. If we get the winger and LB, and manage to keep Bellerin, we're going to have a squad that has skill and a shed load of pace down the flanks.


Are you psychic? Any links?


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Well, seems we have our striker. A few years too late but at least its a significant buy for a much needed position. If we get the winger and LB, and manage to keep Bellerin, we're going to have a squad that has skill and a shed load of pace down the flanks.


Are you psychic? Any links?

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40438547


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Post #472308  Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:11 pm 

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Well, seems we have our striker. A few years too late but at least its a significant buy for a much needed position. If we get the winger and LB, and manage to keep Bellerin, we're going to have a squad that has skill and a shed load of pace down the flanks.

Are you psychic? Any links?

Isn't the bloke from Schalke a left back, or LB as American called the position?


  
 
 
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Are you psychic? Any links?

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40438547


As I thought, more regurgitated bolloxs..........


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As I thought, more regurgitated bolloxs..........

Ornstein is as reliable as they come when it comes to confirming transfers that are nearly done. He rarely breaks any stories early, but if he's saying it's close it probably is close.


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As I thought, more regurgitated bolloxs..........

Ornstein is as reliable as they come when it comes to confirming transfers that are nearly done. He rarely breaks any stories early, but if he's saying it's close it probably is close.


I'd love that to be true....................


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Arsenal have released 19-year old Swedish defender Kristopher Da Graca from the club.
He becomes player number 8 to leave the club this season.


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Bernard wrote:
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Peter Stilton.

Tony Edams?

Emmental Eboue?


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Dunno about you but I still quite enjoy going, watching the team and having a laugh with those around me. Always a good day out and the day it stops being that is when I'll stop going.


Noted post number for about five months into season when your zen-off with Hoy comes to a sharp end.

Anyway listen. guys, I really get it. You're just too calm and sensible to wet the bed over a football team and it's not - you're quite correct - like living under siege in Aleppo. Some people take the whole thing a bit far and are embarrassing. Perhaps they should try a bit of sudoku, make a few lists about long-gone players, some gentle puns involving types of cheese, and express their lust for big bosomed stars of the screen. It might get the blood pressure down I agree.

Doesn't alter the fact Wenger's an arrogant stubborn egotistical d******* and the board are an absolute bunch of incompetent *%^@.

I absolutely will change my stance on this as soon as we lose a game.

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Arsenal have released 19-year old Swedish defender Kristopher Da Graca from the club.
He becomes player number 8 to leave the club this season.


Dragging the bottom of the barrel aren't you?

Should we be interested in anyone that wasn't in last years squad or like Sanogo used to be?

Has the tea lady left?


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Post #472317  Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:39 pm 

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Tony Edams?

Emmental Eboue?

Gouda Strachan?

EDIT: Sage Diaby?


  
 
 
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Bernard wrote:
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Emmental Eboue?

Gouda Strachan?

EDIT: Sage Diaby?

'Monterey Jack' Wilshere?


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Arsenal have released 19-year old Swedish defender Kristopher Da Graca from the club.
He becomes player number 8 to leave the club this season.


Dragging the bottom of the barrel aren't you?

Should we be interested in anyone that wasn't in last years squad or like Sanogo used to be?

Has the tea lady left?

You can be a right miserable sod bubblechris. Lighten up. Now where are your cheese-based footballers to give us a bit of entertainment?


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