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Post #480041  Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:07 am 
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You are correct Kiwi. Most disasters/WHS incidents are a combination of a number of failures or failure to understand how different parts interact together. Your experience on mining sites would have made you aware of that and I have seen it from another angle. Therefore one persons failure is only a contributing factor and not the final factor that caused the incident. Very difficult to sheet home blame to one individual.

That is unlike Arsenal FC where Wenger wants to be the 'supreme being' and therefore is fully responsible for failures.


Quite true Gaz ....as an example I worked on a BHP job in Port Hedland ... riggers hooked up a five ton valve with SOFT slings ... it went up 48 stories weaving back and forth in the breeze ; when it was lowered into the reactor it cut through one sling , tipped and plummeted from 200 feet bouncing off columns and handrails like a demented pin ball .

The union blamed John Holland the contractor and we went on strike for three days .

In the pandemonium that followed no-one thought to mention the riggers should have used chains or wire ropes .

We were all presented with commemorative polo shirts embalzoned with a five star safety award about three weeks later .

:laughing7: :laughing7: Good to see you giving Old Man's ulcer a little work over .

When you are retired it is good just to tweak things at time. I will keep pushing him(OMOH) until there is a few expletives forwarded to me. Just watching the V8s from Hidden Valley.

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A Leaked Picture Of Alexis Sanchez Drops Major Hint About His Future

When I clicked on the link a comment said Mbappe was in it as well. If he the young kid or baby? Wouldn't it suggest Giroud is staying also?

Overall, I'm not convinced to be honest. It would mean Puma have gone back to a darker red, which some may like (not me). But I think the brighter red is the stand out memorable thing about the Puma kits, and if they're only going to supply the kits for two more years would they want to change the main thing that makes their kits different and identifiable as Puma (apart from their logo)? It also just doesn't seem a very good photo on a commercial basis. Why have the woman not wearing a kit, the bloke with the extravagant beard in a grey suit and a scarf, other players (presumably they're players) not in kits, and the baby in a kit with Mbappe's head on it? If it is true, I do prefer white socks though.

I suspect the commercial photo from Puma would concentrate on advertising the kit with players, not tracksuits. Having said that, I've not checked such photos from previous years so maybe it's what Puma do. But I've doubts.


What's Roy Keane doing in it as well?

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Hmm ...... it's understandable for people to be angry Chris ; but what you are suggesting is misguided

"the accused" you say ..... like WHO ... the landlord , the construction company , the gas fitters , cladding experts , sprinkler company , alarms installers .

What if some tenant has come home fully lubricated and decided to deep fry some chips , nodded off and KABOOF .

I'm all for action but you can't just scream "someone raped my daughter and string up the next n*gger you come across " .

Why the use of the 'n' word???
Is that how you describe black people including myself?

To come to Kiwis defence on this I saw this as him quoting a typical American reaction, not necessarily how he thinks himself.

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The Fake Ron's buy-out clause is said to be about £850m. If Usmnov really loves Arsenal he could sort that out surely?

Would you expect him to when he's not offered a place on the board? If I had Usmanov's money and shares but was excluded from the board, then I wouldn't.
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Why the use of the 'n' word??? Is that how you describe black people including myself?
Indeed. Bang out of order.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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Why the use of the 'n' word???
Is that how you describe black people including myself?

To come to Kiwis defence on this I saw this as him quoting a typical American reaction, not necessarily how he thinks himself.
Really? Where's the American connection to a debate about a tower block fire in London?

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Would you expect him to when he's not offered a place on the board? If I had Usmanov's money and shares but was excluded from the board, then I wouldn't.
They're biting today!

It's a viewpoint, albeit a very silly one for reasons explained many times before, that you've consistently made over the years. I was simply concerned for your well-being in case you do actually believe it. I suspect you might have done once. But if it was a wind-up this time, I'm pleased.

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Really?! Brum?! (sarcastically), why Fox News in America is far more dangerous than you think.
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Just watching the Maori Lions game. Is it only me who thinks this, or does anyone also think the haka is, well, a bit silly. All the sticking out of tongues etc.
Maybe the Lions could perform a little dance themselves in reponse - they could take it in turns. A full hey-nonny-no morris dance from the english, an irish jig, or even better a full on riverdance, a scottish reel, or whatever the Welsh do on the traditional dancing front.


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What's Roy Keane doing in it as well?

http://www.footyheadlines.com/2016/12/a ... e-kit.html

It says it was being released in late May.

I suspect you think even at his age that Roy Keane might be an upgrade on Xhaka though. :icon_mrgreen1:

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How does a blue-eyed, blond lad with a Scottish surname get to play for the Maoris? :icon_scratch:

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Bernard wrote:
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What's Roy Keane doing in it as well?

http://www.footyheadlines.com/2016/12/a ... e-kit.html

It says it was being released in late May.

I suspect you think even at his age that Roy Keane might be an upgrade on Xhaka though. :icon_mrgreen1:


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Bernard wrote:
When I clicked on the link a comment said Mbappe was in it as well. If he the young kid or baby? Wouldn't it suggest Giroud is staying also?

Mbappe was shopped in.


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Hmm ...... it's understandable for people to be angry Chris ; but what you are suggesting is misguided

"the accused" you say ..... like WHO ... the landlord , the construction company , the gas fitters , cladding experts , sprinkler company , alarms installers .

What if some tenant has come home fully lubricated and decided to deep fry some chips , nodded off and KABOOF .

I'm all for action but you can't just scream "someone raped my daughter and string up the next n*gger you come across " .

Why the use of the 'n' word???
Is that how you describe black people including myself?

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Just watching the Maori Lions game. Is it only me who thinks this, or does anyone also think the haka is, well, a bit silly. All the sticking out of tongues etc.
Maybe the Lions could perform a little dance themselves in reponse - they could take it in turns. A full hey-nonny-no morris dance from the english, an irish jig, or even better a full on riverdance, a scottish reel, or whatever the Welsh do on the traditional dancing front.

Its all silly. Rugby doesn't bear thinking about. American football. They hadly ever kick the ball? Cricket isn't merely silly, it is prolonged futility. The Haka seems comparatively sensible and brief.

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Hmm ...... it's understandable for people to be angry Chris ; but what you are suggesting is misguided

"the accused" you say ..... like WHO ... the landlord , the construction company , the gas fitters , cladding experts , sprinkler company , alarms installers .

What if some tenant has come home fully lubricated and decided to deep fry some chips , nodded off and KABOOF .

I'm all for action but you can't just scream "someone raped my daughter and string up the next n*gger you come across " .

Why the use of the 'n' word???
Is that how you describe black people including myself?


settle down Big Balls .... I used the n word to graphically show Chris how irrational it was to penalise people on accusations alone .


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old man of hoy wrote:
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To come to Kiwis defence on this I saw this as him quoting a typical American reaction, not necessarily how he thinks himself.
Really? Where's the American connection to a debate about a tower block fire in London?


Read my explanation you bed wetting old nanny ..... engage your two remaining brain cells

The American connection is exactly as my friend from Townsville says .... you couldn't get a more graphic example of penalising people without due cause than the way white Americans treated African Americans .


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bromley gooner wrote:
Just watching the Maori Lions game. Is it only me who thinks this, or does anyone also think the haka is, well, a bit silly. All the sticking out of tongues etc.
Maybe the Lions could perform a little dance themselves in reponse - they could take it in turns. A full hey-nonny-no morris dance from the english, an irish jig, or even better a full on riverdance, a scottish reel, or whatever the Welsh do on the traditional dancing front.


I like the normal run of the mill Ka Mate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujnXeL5zC1M

but on this ocassion both my son and I remarked the same , the Maoris decided to cook up something different ... it went on too long wasn't to co -ordinated and in a word was pretty cr**p .


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Really? Where's the American connection to a debate about a tower block fire in London?


Read my explanation you bed wetting old nanny ..... engage your two remaining brain cells

The American connection is exactly as my friend from Townsville says .... you couldn't get a more graphic example of penalising people without due cause than the way white Americans treated African Americans .


Unfortunately a bleedin awful analogy.


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Hope Pakistan beat India tomorrow. I would normally want India to beat them, but Pakistan have been going through a tough time in cricket recently and I'd like to see them pull off a surprise to regain some of their former status.

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Why the use of the 'n' word???
Is that how you describe black people including myself?


settle down Big Balls .... I used the n word to graphically show Chris how irrational it was to penalise people on accusations alone .

No i wont settle down
You could have used the word bloke or man but chose to use the n word.
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bromley gooner wrote:
Just watching the Maori Lions game. Is it only me who thinks this, or does anyone also think the haka is, well, a bit silly. All the sticking out of tongues etc.
Maybe the Lions could perform a little dance themselves in reponse - they could take it in turns. A full hey-nonny-no morris dance from the english, an irish jig, or even better a full on riverdance, a scottish reel, or whatever the Welsh do on the traditional dancing front.

A row of blokes doing a Morris dance or prancing around in kilts might not be quite as intimidating. Welcome to give it a try though.


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old man of hoy wrote:
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To come to Kiwis defence on this I saw this as him quoting a typical American reaction, not necessarily how he thinks himself.
Really? Where's the American connection to a debate about a tower block fire in London?


Metaphor?


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Just watching the Maori Lions game. Is it only me who thinks this, or does anyone also think the haka is, well, a bit silly. All the sticking out of tongues etc.
Maybe the Lions could perform a little dance themselves in reponse - they could take it in turns. A full hey-nonny-no morris dance from the english, an irish jig, or even better a full on riverdance, a scottish reel, or whatever the Welsh do on the traditional dancing front.

A row of blokes doing a Morris dance or prancing around in kilts might not be quite as intimidating. Welcome to give it a try though.

Intimidating, no. But it would be funny.


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To come to Kiwis defence on this I saw this as him quoting a typical American reaction, not necessarily how he thinks himself.
Really? Where's the American connection to a debate about a tower block fire in London?

Or perhaps more importantly when do we have to spell out slurs? Make reference to in context perhaps but this forum has members from all over the world, All races, religions, ethnicities. Whether its this or anti semetic references to Tottenham, or whatever, it shouldn't have a place here.


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Horrendous use of language

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Some interesting rule changes are apparently to be discussed. Not sure everything seems problem free. If the referee's watch or the stadium clock stops at various points when the whistle blows to avoid time wasting, shouldn't there be a whistle blown to start the game again? But then it mentions players taking free kicks being allowed to kick it to themselves, for example meaning they can dribble away when fouled on the break. But when a free kick is taken so quickly, it is surely going to be hard to get the whistle blown to start the timing of the match again. Also time wasting can occur when taking a throw. Does a whistle get blown when the ball is thrown, or have I missed something?

Various fairly minor changes seems a good idea. Like substituted players leaving the pitch near where they are rather than having to walk across the pitch to get off. Also, goal kicks being taken from the side the ball went out. That used to be the case, and the rule change giving keepers the choice of which side to take the goal kick has enabled them to waste taste by moving, often very slowly, the ball to the other side of the six yard box.

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old man of hoy wrote:
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To come to Kiwis defence on this I saw this as him quoting a typical American reaction, not necessarily how he thinks himself.
Really? Where's the American connection to a debate about a tower block fire in London?

I suggest you read the whole email. It is about peoples reaction to a situation and how people want retribution against a group without realising if there is someone who individually committed an offence, then it is them that must be punished. Would I have expressed it the same way - no, but the comments were a theme I have seen time and again in American issues, particularly the south of the US. This is a typical kkk theme. Hence the US connection. Sorry if you thought I was defending the remark, I was putting it in context.

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settle down Big Balls .... I used the n word to graphically show Chris how irrational it was to penalise people on accusations alone .

No i wont settle down
You could have used the word bloke or man but chose to use the n word.
I suppose its only us who rape women eh


True I could have used the word bloke or man but it wouldn't have conveyed the same irrationality of punishing someone on accusations alone .

I'm wondering how much of your outrage is fueled by the fact I didn't agree with your take on the "odious bitch " in Post # 480114 .

" Only us who rape women " oh please .

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Why the use of the 'n' word???
Is that how you describe black people including myself?

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:laughing7: Amazing American ...... how you've never got the balls to fight your own battles ...... but when someone you don't like is involved you magically appear out of the woodwork to add weight to the opposition .

If you weren't such a spineless half wit I'd be really hurt .


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:laughing7: Amazing American ...... how you've never got the balls to fight your own battles ...... but when someone you don't like is involved you magically appear out of the woodwork to add weight to the opposition .

If you weren't such a spineless half wit I'd be really hurt .


He won't see this Pete, because of course he has you blocked.

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Just watching the V8s from Hidden Valley.

Yeah son and I gave it a view .... Fords 1 and 2 made good viewing .

My first car was a 1939 Ford V8 coupe and I've always been a Ford man ever since ...although I have owned and loved five HQ Holdens .

Surprisingly it is Kiwi Shane van Gisbergen the one I most like to see run into tyre wall . :laughing7:


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:laughing7: Amazing American ...... how you've never got the balls to fight your own battles ...... but when someone you don't like is involved you magically appear out of the woodwork to add weight to the opposition .

If you weren't such a spineless half wit I'd be really hurt .


He won't see this Pete, because of course he has you blocked.


True John

My prediction on the Lions is not running according to plan . Maoris last night ; very disappointing , were never in it , totally outplayed .
I actually wanted them to beat the Highlanders .

There are some big units in your mob the All Blacks might not have it all their own way .

The Lions have always been tour favourites , 1959 and 1971 stand out some magically names from the foggy past , Tony O Reilly , Peter Jackson , Gareth Edwards , Phil Bennet , Barry Johns , Bev Risman .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv6UoAnsVRE Here's one for Brom , I was tempted to go down and take part but in the end opted to chop down a tree .


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Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain wants to leave Arsenal as Liverpool prepare bid

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Alexis Sanchez forcing transfer to Manchester City by demanding huge contract from Bayern Munich

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What is exactly is going on with us and contract negotiations. Before the cup final wenger was singing The Ox's praises saying he wanted him to be a key player for him and sign a new deal.
Few weeks ago newspaper articles that a new deal had been agreed and that he would be snubbing interest from Liverpool. Now these articles are dropping that new deal hasnt been offered and that in fact he wants to leave.
IF true then what the hell are we playing at and what are we waiting for??
Surely he is a player we should be looking to keep and getting it done quickly


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This is worth a look, he looks a good player. Actually he's the type of player arsene used to be all over.


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What is exactly is going on with us and contract negotiations. Before the cup final wenger was singing The Ox's praises saying he wanted him to be a key player for him and sign a new deal.
Few weeks ago newspaper articles that a new deal had been agreed and that he would be snubbing interest from Liverpool. Now these articles are dropping that new deal hasnt been offered and that in fact he wants to leave.
IF true then what the hell are we playing at and what are we waiting for??
Surely he is a player we should be looking to keep and getting it done quickly

I don't know what's happening with Chamberlain. But all I would say is that I doubt the Metro do either, which was the source of the rumour you're responding to david. With regards to their trustworthiness for transfer rumours, I don't rate the Metro as all that much better than the Sun, Mirror and Star. Having said that, if their story is true I share your concerns. Apart from the cup final when he looked a bit out of place at left wing back or whatever the position is called, he had a strong end to the season. In the semi-final at right wing back he was absolutely outstanding.

I think one of our current problems is that too many players have got down to having only a single year left on their contracts. That's obviously the case with Sanchez and Chamberlain this summer, and I'm not even bothering to include Özil in that list as what he wants to do is even less clear. It basically means either letting them choose where they go for a reduced transfer fee, or letting them go there on a Bosman in twelve months. It seems Sanchez doesn't fancy Munich, and surely Arsenal would bite Bayern's hands off to send him there. That means either selling him to City now, or run the very real risk of losing him to exactly the same club on a free transfer next summer. The same principle may well apply to Chamberlain and Liverpool, although the transfer fee to be gained now from Liverpool would be much less than the transfer fee that City are presumably willing to pay for Sanchez.

Personally, I'd sell Sanchez to City now if they are willing to pay £45-50m rather than let him go there for nothing in a year. With Chamberlain the money to be lost by keeping him next season is less, if it's £25m that Liverpool are willing to pay now. So with him we'll only lose about half of what we'd lose with Sanchez going on a free transfer. But there again, Chamberlain isn't as important a player as Sanchez, so I think I would sell him now as well. Okay, we strengthen two rivals for a top four place, but hopefully Wenger will be able to use another £70-75m (the fees from City and Liverpool combined) to compensate, at least to a significant extent, for the immediate loss of both players. But the whole thing, if the unreliable stories in the Metro and other sources are true, seems a fiasco for Arsenal, if not a total cock up.

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Take the money for Sanchez. City will have an even bigger problem than us fitting him into their team thus causing chaos that will benefit us.

Sell Ox as in all the years we've had him he has rarely strung a number of good games together. Possibly not his fault but we have several replacements for his position just as good as he is.


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