Here are some per 90 minute stats and where that ranks in percentile (closer to 100 is better) for a striker we’ve been linked with. Would you have him at Arsenal?
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Thu May 26, 2022 3:35 am ] |
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Hated to see Mourinho win but he is the king of the cup finals. |
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| Author: | Bernard [ Thu May 26, 2022 8:59 am ] |
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Must admit I don’t mind Mourinho. Don’t get me wrong, I think the game routinely outgrows managers as well as players. I think that process is happening with Mourinho and has been for a few years. So I wouldn’t want him as Arsenal’s manager. Either now, in the future, or anything but the distant past. But his comments were always focussed on Wenger, rather than having a go at Arsenal as a club. I went off Wenger myself towards the end of his time at Arsenal so I never got angry about Mourinho slagging off Wenger. I used to do it myself. My feelings towards Wenger have grown more positive since he left. I respect the way he’s kept away, and hope he continues to do so. I do wonder if part of Manchester United’s current problems relate to Ferguson not letting go. He’s always there, watching games like some retired Mafia boss who won’t let his successors make their own decisions. |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Thu May 26, 2022 9:11 am ] |
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Bernard wrote: Must admit I don’t mind Mourinho. Don’t get me wrong, I think the game routinely outgrows managers as well as players. I think that process is happening with Mourinho and has been for a few years. So I wouldn’t want him as Arsenal’s manager. Either now, in the future, or anything but the distant past. But his comments were always focussed on Wenger, rather than having a go at Arsenal as a club. I went off Wenger myself towards the end of his time at Arsenal so I never got angry about Mourinho slagging off Wenger. I used to do it myself. My feelings towards Wenger have grown more positive since he left. I respect the way he’s kept away, and hope he continues to do so. I do wonder if part of Manchester United’s current problems relate to Ferguson not letting go. He’s always there, watching games like some retired Mafia boss who won’t let his successors make their own decisions. The Manchester United situation is like the post Busby era except that the shadow seems to be there for very much longer. |
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| Author: | Bernard [ Thu May 26, 2022 9:58 am ] |
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long time gooner wrote: Bernard wrote: Must admit I don’t mind Mourinho. Don’t get me wrong, I think the game routinely outgrows managers as well as players. I think that process is happening with Mourinho and has been for a few years. So I wouldn’t want him as Arsenal’s manager. Either now, in the future, or anything but the distant past. But his comments were always focussed on Wenger, rather than having a go at Arsenal as a club. I went off Wenger myself towards the end of his time at Arsenal so I never got angry about Mourinho slagging off Wenger. I used to do it myself. My feelings towards Wenger have grown more positive since he left. I respect the way he’s kept away, and hope he continues to do so. I do wonder if part of Manchester United’s current problems relate to Ferguson not letting go. He’s always there, watching games like some retired Mafia boss who won’t let his successors make their own decisions. The Manchester United situation is like the post Busby era except that the shadow seems to be there for very much longer. Fair point. |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Thu May 26, 2022 10:17 am ] |
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Bernard wrote: Must admit I don’t mind Mourinho. Don’t get me wrong, I think the game routinely outgrows managers as well as players. I think that process is happening with Mourinho and has been for a few years. So I wouldn’t want him as Arsenal’s manager. Either now, in the future, or anything but the distant past. But his comments were always focussed on Wenger, rather than having a go at Arsenal as a club. I went off Wenger myself towards the end of his time at Arsenal so I never got angry about Mourinho slagging off Wenger. I used to do it myself. My feelings towards Wenger have grown more positive since he left. I respect the way he’s kept away, and hope he continues to do so. I do wonder if part of Manchester United’s current problems relate to Ferguson not letting go. He’s always there, watching games like some retired Mafia boss who won’t let his successors make their own decisions. I think this is a decent post with a lot of truths. United aren’t helped by the stench of former players slagging off the club and talking about their time and experiences giving it the big un. I do think Arsenes exit since his dismissal has been graceful and respectful bar a couple of comments he made. I’d have no problem him acting as some kind of ambassador for the club The way united replaced Ferguson was sheer lunacy. Letting him pick his own successor. Just bonkers Anyway they are in the *%^@ and long may it continue. Hopefully that new bloke signs a complete load of old duffers from the Dutch league and screws up. His biggest problem is ronaldo where he is damned if he does or doesn’t. If he moves him in he’s liable to get slagged off but he probably needs to do this. If he plays him the team suffers. It’s going to be *%^@*** hilarious |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Thu May 26, 2022 10:43 am ] |
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Just listened to Nketiah on the beautiful game podcast. Worth a listen If you get time. Came across as a well grounded lad but said he and all his family have been Arsenal fans all their lives and the only thing he ever wanted was to be Arsenals centre forward. It was recorded pre his recent run in the side and he talks about playing minutes a lot. You can’t help feel pleased for the kid knowing since then he’s played all the games. |
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| Author: | david.d [ Thu May 26, 2022 1:45 pm ] |
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https://tbrfootball.com/report-says-alv ... -25m-move/ Please no Please no Please no |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Thu May 26, 2022 1:54 pm ] |
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david.d wrote: https://tbrfootball.com/report-says-alvaro-morata-now-very-close-to-joining-arsenal-in-25m-move/ Please no Please no Please no I find that one pretty hard to believe. Surely unlikely. Unless Arteta does want 2 strikers in addition to Nketiah as he’s pretty cheap |
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| Author: | david.d [ Thu May 26, 2022 2:22 pm ] |
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TOP GUN wrote: david.d wrote: https://tbrfootball.com/report-says-alvaro-morata-now-very-close-to-joining-arsenal-in-25m-move/ Please no Please no Please no I find that one pretty hard to believe. Surely unlikely. Unless Arteta does want 2 strikers in addition to Nketiah as he’s pretty cheap I just dont rate him. Age profile just seems out of sync with our recruitment drive. He is hardly prolific either. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Thu May 26, 2022 2:47 pm ] |
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America is irreparably broken. She has passed the proverbial 'Rubicon' towards assured decline. The only areas globally where mass shootings on this level and this frequency are normal to all of us are: America, Nigeria, Afghanistan, Israel/Occupied countries and less than a handful of other places. Any similar event in any developed, G20 nation would and have galvanized the nation into collective action. Political, cultural, class divisions set aside. New Zealand, Finland, Austrailia, France, Japan to name a recent few in modern times. But not America. The aforementioned nations only needed one event. No nation at the level America is ever lasts with such events continually. A peace has to be made. Ireland, the UK comes to mind. As the political divisions continue and there are as bad as I've ever remembered or in history since the Civil War. Even in the build up to the Civil War, the business of running the country was still adhered to. These days? Republicans routinely run for office with a platform of not ever compromising with or working with Democrats. It's impossible to run a nation that way. But, we are at that stage. Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader while Obama was in the office, bragged publicly about telling Obama when they met after Obama hadn't even warmed his seat that he would not work with him on anything. Not that he wouldn't work with him on things his party didn't agree with, no, with ANYTHING. Even things he may even support. They'd vote for it if something they were for was up for a vote and fell into their laps but as far as constructing, etc? No. They'd critique it from the sidelines and that's it. The Democrats are the most imcompetent at politics. The Lincoln Project, Republicans who are fighting the party since it embraced Trump and have run ads against Republicans, have commented that the Dems can't follow simple political strategies and they end up snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Sanders polled very well against Trump in both the 2016 and 2020 elections but the Dems backed 2 candidates the Dem masses didn't want. Hillary Clinton and Biden are beholden to the corporations and special interests (so are the Republicans) and the masses dying in debt, undercut by every turn by the Amazons of the world, wanted someone who would fight for them. But the party machine wanted to serve their paymasters and chose someone who would do just that. This fall the Democrats will lose and lose big. It won't be pretty. They will lose both houses of Congress and after 2024, we will see Republicans in complete control of the country, top to bottom. Not only will they have the White House, the entire Congress they will likely have before all is said and done, 7 of the 9 Supreme Court justice and the majority of them have no intention of honoring precedence, the Constitution or protecting the reputation of the court as unbiased. Not only that, 28 of the 50 states have Republican governors but my guess is they will get 35 to 38 or 39 governorships over the next 4 years or so. What will the Republicans do with all that power? They will do what either party has done. They will abuse it. Republicans abuse it by granting the rich so much unregulated freedom, they end up creating a economic bubbles that eventually explode. Its happend every time in the last 100 years, with only one exception. The 'Ike' years of the 1950s (specifically 1952-1960) and the reason it ended well was because Eisenhower ran the government like he ran his army. It lived no more, no less on what it needed. He was the one that warned about the power of the 'Military-Industrial Complex'. Anyway, my guess from what I can see from present trends, events is that there will likely be a massive economic crash of Great Depression proportions before the end of the decade. The Democrats will react by wanting to write checks to everyone, damn the national debt or how they will pay for it. The Republican masses will become unhinged and react how they have for the last 20 years: mass shootings. To whom they will direct their animosity to? Take your pick: elected officials, immigrants, Blacks, Gays, liberals. China will emerge the new world leader. Russia will become an ally to check China and we'll look the other way of internal abuses in Russia and probably the other way as they reconstitute the old Soviet bloc by force. India will join this alliance as it has a regional concern. Pakistan will play both sides possibly. America will be balkanized. Even up to the point where the red states, especially those that are adjacent like the deep south, will be similar somewhat to Kurdistan in Iraq. Techinally under the auspices of the Iragi government but in actuality autonomous. |
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| Author: | Zed [ Thu May 26, 2022 5:14 pm ] |
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david.d wrote: https://tbrfootball.com/report-says-alvaro-morata-now-very-close-to-joining-arsenal-in-25m-move/ Please no Please no Please no Yeah another ex-Chelsea player. Meanwhile, Rabiot just might go to either Spurs or Chelsea. |
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| Author: | Zed [ Thu May 26, 2022 5:34 pm ] |
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'Goodfellas' actor Ray Liotta died in his sleep in the Dominican Republic. Age 67. He was filming a movie there called Dangerous Waters. RIP |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu May 26, 2022 7:02 pm ] |
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Villa have so far signed Coutinho permanently, Boubakar Kamara on a free and now reached an agreement with Diego Carlos the Sevilla CB….on top of Digne and Chambers in January and a big spree last summer with Buendia, Bailey, ings and Ashley young all joining. A big offset is the Grealish transfer though. A couple of points: It must be a worry for other leagues that players are switching from top 3-4 teams in those leagues to join 14th in the Prem There are a number of players in that list who will be on very big wages due to their age or free transfer status as well as the status of the teams they’ve come from no doubt paying them high previously. Villa must be absolutely smashing their total wage outlay. But also could find themselves having problems in the future, as we know to our cost old players with big wages is not an easy problem to solve if their performance drops |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu May 26, 2022 7:08 pm ] |
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I’ve sen us linked once again to Aouar. His price is dropping rapidly. French media say he’s available for £12m. He’s about to turn 24. It’s the sort of gamble someone could take and be handsomely rewarded if he refunds his form….or mildly put out if he doesn’t. £12m is nothing in today’s market |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu May 26, 2022 7:19 pm ] | ||
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Here are some per 90 minute stats and where that ranks in percentile (closer to 100 is better) for a striker we’ve been linked with. Would you have him at Arsenal?
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Thu May 26, 2022 8:44 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: I’ve sen us linked once again to Aouar. His price is dropping rapidly. French media say he’s available for £12m. He’s about to turn 24. It’s the sort of gamble someone could take and be handsomely rewarded if he refunds his form….or mildly put out if he doesn’t. £12m is nothing in today’s market For that kind of money I can also see West Ham, Newcastle, Villa, Tottenham, Leicester going for him. We have a higher profile than all of them and I'd include Tottenham. I still think we have a bigger rep internationally. Seems we are starting a bit early on a few contracts as well. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu May 26, 2022 8:54 pm ] |
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3 of the most important deals we can do this summer are extending the contracts of Saka, Martinelli and Saliba. I think all 3 have 2 years left on their deal this year. 3 year extensions for all would secure their futures |
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| Author: | Bernard [ Thu May 26, 2022 9:15 pm ] |
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33 years ago today (shouldn’t be any need to say what was). 3 months from being a quarter of a century. Gulp. Mind you, getting old is better than the only alternative. |
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| Author: | Terry Henry [ Thu May 26, 2022 10:26 pm ] |
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Bernard wrote: 33 years ago today (shouldn’t be any need to say what was). 3 months from being a quarter of a century. Gulp. Mind you, getting old is better than the only alternative. Er, so maths is not your strong point 
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| Author: | Bernard [ Thu May 26, 2022 10:31 pm ] |
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Terry Henry wrote: Bernard wrote: 33 years ago today (shouldn’t be any need to say what was). 3 months from being a quarter of a century. Gulp. Mind you, getting old is better than the only alternative. Er, so maths is not your strong point In what way? 26 May 1989 to 26 May 2022 is 33 years isn’t it? A third of a century is 33 years and 3 months isn’t it? EDIT: Sorry, I get what you mean. I meant to say a third of a century not a quarter. Incompetence using the wrong word more than faulty maths. |
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| Author: | Zed [ Thu May 26, 2022 10:52 pm ] |
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Bernard wrote: Terry Henry wrote: Er, so maths is not your strong point In what way? 26 May 1989 to 26 May 2022 is 33 years isn’t it? A third of a century is 33 years and 3 months isn’t it? EDIT: Sorry, I get what you mean. I meant to say a third of a century not a quarter. Incompetence using the wrong word more than faulty maths. Good thing you caught that. The 1/3 of a century that is, mother a 1/4 century. Was sort of wondetong that myself....  
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| Author: | Zed [ Thu May 26, 2022 10:54 pm ] |
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Zed wrote: Bernard wrote: In what way? 26 May 1989 to 26 May 2022 is 33 years isn’t it? A third of a century is 33 years and 3 months isn’t it? EDIT: Sorry, I get what you mean. I meant to say a third of a century not a quarter. Incompetence using the wrong word more than faulty maths. Good thing you caught that. The 1/3 of a century that is, mother a 1/4 century. Was sort of wondetong that myself.... Edit: supposed to be 'not a 1/4 of a century' and wondering not wondertong.... 
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| Author: | Bernard [ Fri May 27, 2022 12:50 am ] |
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Zed wrote: Bernard wrote: In what way? 26 May 1989 to 26 May 2022 is 33 years isn’t it? A third of a century is 33 years and 3 months isn’t it? EDIT: Sorry, I get what you mean. I meant to say a third of a century not a quarter. Incompetence using the wrong word more than faulty maths. Good thing you caught that. The 1/3 of a century that is, mother a 1/4 century. Was sort of wondetong that myself.... It was only after I’d done my first reply to Terry Henry that I noticed I’d somehow used the word quarter rather than third. Incompetence or carelessness I guess, as I’d actually been talking to my wife about it being three months off a third of a century just before I did the post. Indeed, it was my chat with her that made me do the post. I also chatted (by text) this evening about it being 33 years to an Arsenal supporting friend who didn’t go to the game with me as he decided to watch it at his family’s home with his dad, who was terminally ill with cancer. The friend was a regular home and away fan like me. Says he doesn’t regret his decision not to go because when Thomas scored the winner, despite being terminally ill his dad (also a lifelong fan) somehow found the strength to get up and celebrate the goal. My friend said if he’d gone to Anfield with me, he’d have never shared that moment with his dad. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri May 27, 2022 1:44 am ] |
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I was never there but when I see the videos of it I feel like I were. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=704931333892630 |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri May 27, 2022 1:51 am ] |
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Rich wrote: 3 of the most important deals we can do this summer are extending the contracts of Saka, Martinelli and Saliba. I think all 3 have 2 years left on their deal this year. 3 year extensions for all would secure their futures Unless I hear any evidence that supports why we risked losing him by never playing him (we could have used him instead of Holding), that even Henry has commented, if he leaves, its self inflicted mistake. Saliba is one of the big mysteries I am hoping the documentary solves. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri May 27, 2022 2:09 am ] |
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Translation of la Liga comments: "Only we are allowed to offer insane contracts because we have Real Madrid and Barcelona who are above mere football" https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/61598269 |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri May 27, 2022 4:39 am ] |
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I know this is the season of transfer babble and click bait targets and such but we were strongly linked to Morata a while back. I used to want him but not anymore. https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/news/arsenal-transfer-alvaro-morata-winger-24074650 Arsenal 'very close' to signing Alvaro Morata and hold 'legal guarantee' over midfielder signing |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri May 27, 2022 5:43 am ] |
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Looking at music across eras brings back memories of where i was in past years. https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=335054751023549 |
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri May 27, 2022 7:49 am ] |
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AmericanGooner wrote: Rich wrote: 3 of the most important deals we can do this summer are extending the contracts of Saka, Martinelli and Saliba. I think all 3 have 2 years left on their deal this year. 3 year extensions for all would secure their futures Unless I hear any evidence that supports why we risked losing him by never playing him (we could have used him instead of Holding), that even Henry has commented, if he leaves, its self inflicted mistake. Saliba is one of the big mysteries I am hoping the documentary solves. Holding made 9 starts and 6 sub appearances for us this season Saliba made 51 starts for Marseille including 12 in European competitions and made his senior international debut....and was voted in the French team of the season and won young player of the year. His development at Marseille has been a resounding success, as good as you can hope for by sending a young player on loan. He would not be the player he is now if he'd stayed with us and played just those 9 starts Holding did. There is always a risk with loans that the player gets a taste for first team football at a lower level and wants more of it, as the club loaning out the player you have to hope that the desire translates in to coming back and proving himself at the bigger club and fighting for his spot in the first 11. I can't think of many 21 year old CB's playing every game for one of Europe's top teams |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri May 27, 2022 9:56 am ] |
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I hear ya Rich, but from the little I know, it wasn't like he was initially seen by Marseille as a raw, rough player who worked on his game and developed. Wasn't he good from the start? Of course he got better...as any young defender will when they get minuites. If anyone is trying to say Holding, who I have always been a fan of, was better and thereby should be higher in the pecking order...well, if they can convince me I suggest they go to Newcastle and sell them some coal. We didn't even get a chance to find out. We have to take Arteta's word for it and as much as I like Arteta I can't take his word for it regarding Saliba, especially when Henry himself has slammed Arteta. I have yet to see any independent observer say Saliba didn't deserve to play for us at all. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri May 27, 2022 10:02 am ] |
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...furthermore, I think it was Holding who should have been sent on loan. Given what was at stake as a club. 8th in the league prior to the season, we needed all hands on deck. If we had a better, deeper squad, I wouldn't have liked it but I would have grudgingly accepted it. We were desperate for defenders at the end of last season. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri May 27, 2022 10:33 am ] |
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Links to Zinchenko from City today. It is a move that makes a lot of sense. I do like what I've seen of Hickey as well, young and 2 footed. Jesus, Zinchenko, Bissouma, Tielemans, Abraham - I'd snap your hand off for that this summer, all Prem league ready which de-risks transfers massively |
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| Author: | dec [ Fri May 27, 2022 10:50 am ] |
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Rich wrote: Links to Zinchenko from City today. It is a move that makes a lot of sense. I do like what I've seen of Hickey as well, young and 2 footed. Jesus, Zinchenko, Bissouma, Tielemans, Abraham - I'd snap your hand off for that this summer, all Prem league ready which de-risks transfers massively Zinchenko would be an excellent signing. Tavares is well short of the level we need. With Tierney's injury record, Zinchenko would be a great fit. He can play in midfield too, which he does consistently for Ukraine. |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Fri May 27, 2022 11:02 am ] |
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Are city really going to sell us all these players  Would be a good signing and a genuine replacement for Tierney in the event of an injury. Would be a bit weird though because spending at least 35 million on a backup player whilst desperate for midfielders and strikers |
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| Author: | Bernard [ Fri May 27, 2022 1:19 pm ] |
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TOP GUN wrote: Are city really going to sell us all these players Would be a good signing and a genuine replacement for Tierney in the event of an injury. Would be a bit weird though because spending at least 35 million on a backup player whilst desperate for midfielders and strikers I know debating which players may join is what football fans do, but I do think it’s wise to ignore clickbait and see what actually does happen. I mean, according to this link Wolves could be taking Arsenal to court which may lead to a transfer ban. Hopefully it’s clickbait nonsense, but there again so might 99% of the transfer rumours circulating. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... dium=email |
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri May 27, 2022 1:48 pm ] |
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Top 5 names being put on the backs of the new shirts by the fans 1. Ødegaard 8 2. Saka 7 3. Martinelli 11 4. Smith Rowe 10 5. Tomiyasu 18 |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri May 27, 2022 2:28 pm ] |
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Tomiyasu must be the overseas market, I'm guessing. |
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| Author: | Decaf [ Fri May 27, 2022 2:46 pm ] |
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AmericanGooner wrote: Wasn't he good from the start? Of course he got better...as any young defender will when they get minuites. If only this were true! Getting minutes quite often exposes young players' weaknesses and shows that they are not going to cut it. |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Fri May 27, 2022 5:50 pm ] |
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So we’re signing hickey, zinchenko and now this guy https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18708170 ... ter-milan/ |
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| Author: | Zed [ Fri May 27, 2022 6:54 pm ] |
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Oh this Marquinhos thing is all over the place. So whether or not Edu was at all aware of last summer's Wolves supposed agreement is another thing entirely. https://dailycannon.com/2022/05/wolves- ... s-arsenal/ |
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