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Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:59 am ]
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Ash wrote:
So I watched a bit of that sky sports transfer deadline and was subjected to Harry Redknapp slouching in his chair tipping Tottenham to stage an upset and win the title. The prospect of a Mourinho led Tottenham winning the title is so horrifying I can’t even bring myself to belittle it.

They ‘announced’ Partey for what it’s worth and declared it as proof Kreonke was ‘open for business’. They obviously haven’t heard the news of letting gunnersauraus go to offset the outlay...

Do you think Harry will report his income from his appearance on this show

Author:  Ash [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:05 am ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
Ash wrote:
So I watched a bit of that sky sports transfer deadline and was subjected to Harry Redknapp slouching in his chair tipping Tottenham to stage an upset and win the title. The prospect of a Mourinho led Tottenham winning the title is so horrifying I can’t even bring myself to belittle it.

They ‘announced’ Partey for what it’s worth and declared it as proof Kreonke was ‘open for business’. They obviously haven’t heard the news of letting gunnersauraus go to offset the outlay...

Do you think Harry will report his income from his appearance on this show


Don’t be silly his dog deals with all his tax affairs

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:10 am ]
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Ash wrote:
Gaz from Oz wrote:
Do you think Harry will report his income from his appearance on this show


Don’t be silly his dog deals with all his tax affairs

Just a simple man and can easily make mistakes. Like predicting Spurs revival

Author:  Rich [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:39 am ]
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Ash wrote:
So I watched a bit of that sky sports transfer deadline and was subjected to Harry Redknapp slouching in his chair tipping Tottenham to stage an upset and win the title

Someone told
Me Harry was asked for his opinion on a particular team and transfers and he said ‘i don’t know their squad well enough’ That’s literally your only or main job when appearing as a pundit on deadline day.
What would be said if Micah Richards or Alex Scott came out with that sort of analysis

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:46 am ]
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So in the end we kept a lot of the players linked with moves. Sokratis,Mustafi, Chambers, saliba etc

Must be a bit of a disaster, means that Mustafi will be leaving on a free next summer and we have to pay all of Sokratis wages even though Arteta can’t use him as he can’t play out.

Author:  Rich [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:50 am ]
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We need to omit 2 players from the squad. Kolasinac, Sokratis, Özil would be the main contenders

Author:  Bored [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:54 am ]
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So if we are rating this transfer window I wound probably give it a 6.5. That’s obviously dependent on how the signings get on, but I’m assuming we’ve significantly improved the first team with Partey and Gabriel and managed to keep hold of Aubameyang. Hopefully Willian can improve us too but so far he’s only shone against Fulham who were awful.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:56 am ]
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Rich wrote:
We need to omit 2 players from the squad. Kolasinac, Sokratis, Özil would be the main contenders

Mustafi must be up there. Injured now we are overloaded in his position and could be loan in January when the window re opens.

Our bloated squad will help the Europa league fixtures

Author:  Bernard [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:03 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Must be a bit of a disaster, means that Mustafi will be leaving on a free next summer and we have to pay all of Sokratis wages even though Arteta can’t use him as he can’t play out.

I can see Mustafi getting another year on his contract, to avoid that happening. Think it was a Rich who mentioned that possibility. If it wasn’t him, somebody did.

He’s also a decent squad back up as a central defender, which may increase the chances of him getting a further year.

Author:  Bernard [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:08 am ]
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Rich wrote:
We need to omit 2 players from the squad. Kolasinac, Sokratis, Özil would be the main contenders

I can’t see the two being anyone but Özil and Sokratis. Arteta is clearly willing to give Kolasinac game time, as he was to an even bigger extent with Mustafi before his injury (in response to Top Gun’s reply).

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:23 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Must be a bit of a disaster, means that Mustafi will be leaving on a free next summer and we have to pay all of Sokratis wages even though Arteta can’t use him as he can’t play out.

I can see Mustafi getting another year on his contract, to avoid that happening. Think it was a Rich who mentioned that possibility. If it wasn’t him, somebody did.

He’s also a decent squad back up as a central defender, which may increase the chances of him getting a further year.


Not sure Mustafi would agree to an extra year, he can speak to new clubs in January and it would mean he would be in a worse negotiating position for his new salary

Author:  Bernard [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:53 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Bernard wrote:
I can see Mustafi getting another year on his contract, to avoid that happening. Think it was a Rich who mentioned that possibility. If it wasn’t him, somebody did.

He’s also a decent squad back up as a central defender, which may increase the chances of him getting a further year.

Not sure Mustafi would agree to an extra year, he can speak to new clubs in January and it would mean he would be in a worse negotiating position for his new salary

I don’t expect Mustafi to get the full money he’s currently on, but if given a decent contract I can see him signing up for another year. Also, Holding will be sellable next summer or in January without even giving him another year.

Author:  Goonie [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:59 am ]
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Decaf wrote:
david.d wrote:
I know!
We are the friendliest people you could ever meet!
Good to see our compatriot and fellow Ghanaian joining The Arsenal!

I've still got my 2010 Ghana scarf. Bloody Suarez!

Saw on facebook. Gunnersaurus out. Ghanasaurus in. :42laughter:

Author:  Hazuki [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:08 am ]
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Not sure how we pulled that off, but in the end the arrival of Partey makes it a good transfer window in my book - although still a midfielder shy of being a great one. Having Partey, Xhaka and Ceballos as our three main central midfielders is intriguing. None of them are exact replicas of each other, they all bring different qualities to the table and will allow us to play in different ways.

I can see them working in different pairs, but also as a three man unit. Our midfield who has been lacking for so long now has strength, technique, passing, power, dribbling skills, excellent positional play and a bit of creativity. Add in Gabriel who looks like a really talented defender, and Willian who is versatile, experienced and still very good, and we've done well in terms of strengthening.

Author:  Hazuki [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:11 am ]
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Özil has to be one of the odd men out, and I would guess Sokratis is the other. A bit harsh on the greek who has been nothing but professional since he arrived, but it is what it is. We just have to look at it in terms of who's going to contribute to the squad and who's not, and he just doesn't fit the way we play. A shame we couldn't manage to secure moves away for a couple of more players, but it's not that long until January.

Author:  long time gooner [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:24 am ]
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It’s only just occurred to me, and it is early days. Everton appear to be on the up with Ancelotti and some good transfer business. Is this connected in any way to Usmanov? Is he funding this?

Author:  Ash [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:33 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Ash wrote:
So I watched a bit of that sky sports transfer deadline and was subjected to Harry Redknapp slouching in his chair tipping Tottenham to stage an upset and win the title

Someone told
Me Harry was asked for his opinion on a particular team and transfers and he said ‘i don’t know their squad well enough’ That’s literally your only or main job when appearing as a pundit on deadline day.
What would be said if Micah Richards or Alex Scott came out with that sort of analysis


His Spurs for the title response was literally in his answer to “So Arsenal have signed Alex Partey, that’s a good signing for them...” Such a bellend

Not a big fan of Alex Scott but, honestly, I don’t know how much of that is because I’m just not used to women footballers and pundits. Micah Richards is brilliant and the most engaging pundit behind Ian Wright. He makes a really nice change from the host of others, no matter their level of analysis, who have joined the Danny Murphy train of miserableness. Jermaine Jeans I’m looking at you.

Author:  Ash [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:43 am ]
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long time gooner wrote:
It’s only just occurred to me, and it is early days. Everton appear to be on the up with Ancelotti and some good transfer business. Is this connected in any way to Usmanov? Is he funding this?


If it’s not him it’s the other guy, Moshiri? Think they’ve had big big spends for a while going back to Allerdyce and I think before.

But you’re right I really don’t think of Everton as a ‘money’ club, but especially if ffp has finally completely pulled out its false teeth they’ve got two billionaires behind them. Plus they’ve got a start of a foundation of success which is what Chelsea and City needed to get that bit of credibility to start attracting mostly whoever they wanted.

Hard to take them really seriously because they’re Everton, but like City they’ve got the added incentive of their nearest revivals being super successful. Don’t know what to expect of them this season, they’re candidates for flying for a while and then feeling the pressure at some point later in the season. Biggest bonus for them right now is Calvert-Lewin banging in the goals, I thought the Prem was a step beyond him for a while.

Author:  Ash [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:55 am ]
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I make this a good transfer window, there was perhaps too much to do to call it great, but I can’t think of two players with more upside, signed in more needed places for a long time now. Gabriel looks brilliant, so much potential and a nailed on starter. Partey comes with very good pedigree, one of the best players for Athleti for a couple of years at least. Saka and Aubameyang signed. Very happy with Ceballos back. Mari and Cédric still a bit odd and William I can’t get that excited about, 1 great game in 4 is his reputation.

The only obvious downside is moving out so few, (nearly selling Kola for 9m!) and the uncertainty around Saliba, perhaps we won’t see him integrated in the way we would have hoped.

We’re another quality player signed away from really challenging, and failing that, if Pépé and Saka both climb a level that will be as good.

Author:  long time gooner [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:04 am ]
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Ash wrote:
long time gooner wrote:
It’s only just occurred to me, and it is early days. Everton appear to be on the up with Ancelotti and some good transfer business. Is this connected in any way to Usmanov? Is he funding this?


If it’s not him it’s the other guy, Moshiri? Think they’ve had big big spends for a while going back to Allerdyce and I think before.

But you’re right I really don’t think of Everton as a ‘money’ club, but especially if ffp has finally completely pulled out its false teeth they’ve got two billionaires behind them. Plus they’ve got a start of a foundation of success which is what Chelsea and City needed to get that bit of credibility to start attracting mostly whoever they wanted.

Hard to take them really seriously because they’re Everton, but like City they’ve got the added incentive of their nearest revivals being super successful. Don’t know what to expect of them this season, they’re candidates for flying for a while and then feeling the pressure at some point later in the season. Biggest bonus for them right now is Calvert-Lewin banging in the goals, I thought the Prem was a step beyond him for a while.

If they can build their proposed new ground without it affecting them like it did us then we’ll know that there is serious money there.

I suspect that Usmanov would have been a better outcome for us despite his ‘background’.

Author:  john1 [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:30 am ]
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Seeing lots of social media chatter about Partey being the next Vieira:

1. Let’s not put that pressure on him
2. If he was that good, at the age of 27, wouldn’t someone else have triggered his release clause by now?

I hope and trust that he improves our midfield. I also hope it was Arteta’s wish to sign him and the signing wasn’t just done by the board as a fan mollifier.

We’ll see, fingers crossed.

Author:  john1 [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:31 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
Rich wrote:
We need to omit 2 players from the squad. Kolasinac, Sokratis, Özil would be the main contenders

I can’t see the two being anyone but Özil and Sokratis. Arteta is clearly willing to give Kolasinac game time, as he was to an even bigger extent with Mustafi before his injury (in response to Top Gun’s reply).


They would be my choices too Bernard.

Author:  john1 [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:32 am ]
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long time gooner wrote:
It’s only just occurred to me, and it is early days. Everton appear to be on the up with Ancelotti and some good transfer business. Is this connected in any way to Usmanov? Is he funding this?


Interesting thought.

Author:  Hazuki [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:41 am ]
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john1 wrote:
Seeing lots of social media chatter about Partey being the next Vieira:

1. Let’s not put that pressure on him
2. If he was that good, at the age of 27, wouldn’t someone else have triggered his release clause by now?

I hope and trust that he improves our midfield. I also hope it was Arteta’s wish to sign him and the signing wasn’t just done by the board as a fan mollifier.

We’ll see, fingers crossed.

I think there are some stylistic similairites between the two, that's probably what people are referring to. I'm 100% certain he isn't as good as Vieira, most midfielders aren't. Will be really exciting to see him play for us though.

Here's a pretty informative twitter thread about what kind of player he is:

https://twitter.com/davidjaca/status/13 ... 9086930944

Author:  long time gooner [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:13 am ]
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john1 wrote:
Seeing lots of social media chatter about Partey being the next Vieira:

1. Let’s not put that pressure on him
2. If he was that good, at the age of 27, wouldn’t someone else have triggered his release clause by now?

I hope and trust that he improves our midfield. I also hope it was Arteta’s wish to sign him and the signing wasn’t just done by the board as a fan mollifier.

We’ll see, fingers crossed.

I’d never have put our current board as being fan mollifiers. The appearance is one of not giving a damn what the ‘customers’ think, sadly.

Author:  Bored [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:15 am ]
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The Saliba thing is really weird. We spent a really significant chunk of our transfer budget on a player who if Arsenal had their way would be spending his second year away from the club? That's really odd and a bit worrying. How can the general consensus that he was going to dramatically improve our defence have been so far off the mark? Was it the injury from last season and/or the unspecified personal issues he's having to deal with?

Author:  Hazuki [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:21 am ]
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So, now that the window is closed and we know what we're working with, what do people expect from the season?

For me, it's clear we need to grab a top 4 spot in the league. I see Chelsea and Tottenham as our main rivals there. Chelsea still has to be favorites for third place with the signings they've made. I think we have the better team than Tottenham overall, but their attacking duo of Kane and Son is absolute top class, and if Bale has a resurgence they'll be lethal.

I don't even consider Manchester United. They have great attacking talent, but their team is a statue made of matchsticks to borrow a phrase from Bob Dylan; weak central midfield, terrible central defense. If we're below them in the table when the season ends it'll be a failure.

Apart from the league we should be one of the favorites for the Europa League, and I'd like us to mount another challenge for the FA Cup as well.

Author:  john1 [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:47 am ]
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Hazuki wrote:
john1 wrote:
Seeing lots of social media chatter about Partey being the next Vieira:

1. Let’s not put that pressure on him
2. If he was that good, at the age of 27, wouldn’t someone else have triggered his release clause by now?

I hope and trust that he improves our midfield. I also hope it was Arteta’s wish to sign him and the signing wasn’t just done by the board as a fan mollifier.

We’ll see, fingers crossed.

I think there are some stylistic similairites between the two, that's probably what people are referring to. I'm 100% certain he isn't as good as Vieira, most midfielders aren't. Will be really exciting to see him play for us though.

Here's a pretty informative twitter thread about what kind of player he is:

https://twitter.com/davidjaca/status/13 ... 9086930944


Thanks Haz. Interesting stuff; a late developer it seems.

Author:  john1 [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:47 am ]
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long time gooner wrote:
john1 wrote:
Seeing lots of social media chatter about Partey being the next Vieira:

1. Let’s not put that pressure on him
2. If he was that good, at the age of 27, wouldn’t someone else have triggered his release clause by now?

I hope and trust that he improves our midfield. I also hope it was Arteta’s wish to sign him and the signing wasn’t just done by the board as a fan mollifier.

We’ll see, fingers crossed.

I’d never have put our current board as being fan mollifiers. The appearance is one of not giving a damn what the ‘customers’ think, sadly.


True

Author:  Bernard [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:06 am ]
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Hazuki wrote:
So, now that the window is closed and we know what we're working with, what do people expect from the season?

For me, it's clear we need to grab a top 4 spot in the league. I see Chelsea and Tottenham as our main rivals there. Chelsea still has to be favorites for third place with the signings they've made. I think we have the better team than Tottenham overall, but their attacking duo of Kane and Son is absolute top class, and if Bale has a resurgence they'll be lethal.

I don't even consider Manchester United. They have great attacking talent, but their team is a statue made of matchsticks to borrow a phrase from Bob Dylan; weak central midfield, terrible central defense. If we're below them in the table when the season ends it'll be a failure.

Apart from the league we should be one of the favorites for the Europa League, and I'd like us to mount another challenge for the FA Cup as well.

If Liverpool and City are practically guaranteed to be two of the top four, I see the other couple of places being between Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and Manchester United. I’m not writing United off like you. I see them as having a decent chance of a fourth place finish. Outsiders with a slimmer chance are Everton, Leicester and Wolves but I fancy the chances of Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and Manchester United more.

I’m always hesitant to predict cup outcomes as literally anything can happen in one-off games, be it league matches or cup ties. I think we’ve got a decent chance of winning any of the League Cup (though we obviously need to beat City again), Europa League or FA Cup. But there again we can lose any or all of them. That’s the nature of cups.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:30 am ]
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Bored wrote:
The Saliba thing is really weird. We spent a really significant chunk of our transfer budget on a player who if Arsenal had their way would be spending his second year away from the club? That's really odd and a bit worrying. How can the general consensus that he was going to dramatically improve our defence have been so far off the mark? Was it the injury from last season and/or the unspecified personal issues he's having to deal with?


Surely just financial, ? He’s only going to play5-10 games probably and by the end of the month we will have Mustafi, Sokratis and chambers sat on the bench. We can’t offload them because they are getting 100k a week but a Fulham or smaller French team could accommodate his 2 million a year. Saves us 2 million and he gets more experience and game time. Covid has affected the entire transfer market

Author:  grantyboy [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:17 pm ]
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Watched a highlights reel of Partey. Good strength, can wriggle out of tights spots and has drive forward. Only thing I missed was that I thought he was considered some sort of midfield enforcer. Didn't see it in the footage I saw so does anyone have a more informed view on his defensive game?

Does anyone else think some of his on the ball antics in front of the defence are a bit risky and could lead to trouble?

Seeking opinions here cos know nothing more than 5 mins of youtube.

Author:  Parkerknoll Gooner [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:24 pm ]
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Hazuki wrote:
john1 wrote:
Seeing lots of social media chatter about Partey being the next Vieira:

1. Let’s not put that pressure on him
2. If he was that good, at the age of 27, wouldn’t someone else have triggered his release clause by now?

I hope and trust that he improves our midfield. I also hope it was Arteta’s wish to sign him and the signing wasn’t just done by the board as a fan mollifier.

We’ll see, fingers crossed.

I think there are some stylistic similairites between the two, that's probably what people are referring to. I'm 100% certain he isn't as good as Vieira, most midfielders aren't. Will be really exciting to see him play for us though.

Here's a pretty informative twitter thread about what kind of player he is:

https://twitter.com/davidjaca/status/13 ... 9086930944


Certainly has a couple of thing our Swiss cheese lacks, mobility and awareness, can only improve us surely.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:53 pm ]
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The statement from St etiene about saliba. Clearly a massive dig again.

Seems ridiculous I have to say

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:16 pm ]
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david.d wrote:
We are the friendliest people you could ever meet!
Good to see our compatriot and fellow Ghanaian joining The Arsenal!


I had to pleasure of visiting Accra and Cape Coast 4 years ago. Will confirm there are very friendly people there. Good holiday.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:23 pm ]
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Led Zep, guilty or innocent? What say ye? (as if I didn't already know the answer). :7laughter:

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:34 pm ]
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/thomas-partey-arsenal-transfer-arteta-22800678
Thomas Partey is final piece of Arsenal's jigsaw as Mikel Arteta eyes formation change


Author:  AmericanGooner [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:37 pm ]
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Joel Ideho from Ajax? Ajax usually has the pick of the litter in Holland so assume he's not average.

Author:  Zed [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:15 pm ]
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Gunnersaurus is back! Well played Mesut Özil.

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Author:  AmericanGooner [ Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:53 pm ]
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Atletico saying we acted in bad form. True? Leaving it late to trigger the buy out.

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