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Author:  Rich [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:41 pm ]
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Moyes and 2 West Ham players test positive for Covid. We only played them 3 days ago. Hopefully nothing transmitted to Arsenal players

Author:  Ash [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:30 pm ]
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Leon Gontran wrote:
Apparently the transfer request story has no legs. Twitter rumours that ran wild. Why would a player who has been shopped all over Europe still go out an ask for a transfer? He is in the market already.


That makes a lot of sense. Transfer request usually just means the player foregoes the laughably named ‘loyalty payment’. It’s a last resort to force your way out, and as you say the club are all but wearing their feet out trying to kick him out the door.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:35 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Moyes and 2 West Ham players test positive for Covid. We only played them 3 days ago. Hopefully nothing transmitted to Arsenal players

I would have thought that if the sick players were in the team our whole team would be locked down and no games. Given some research I have heard about suggests that you can be contagious For 5 days without showing symptoms it becomes very messy. Maybe the testing will show if u have it.

Author:  Zed [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:51 pm ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
Rich wrote:
Moyes and 2 West Ham players test positive for Covid. We only played them 3 days ago. Hopefully nothing transmitted to Arsenal players

I would have thought that if the sick players were in the team our whole team would be locked down and no games. Given some research I have heard about suggests that you can be contagious For 5 days without showing symptoms it becomes very messy. Maybe the testing will show if u have it.

No doubt neither club is taking any chances being that the Carabao match is tomorrow. Testing possibly done today and again prior to match.

Author:  Zed [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:53 pm ]
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Leon Gontran wrote:
The last player to demand guarantees of signings and actual names of players was RVP. It never ended well that conversation with Gazidis. We all know where he ended up a year later lifting the PL.

Kroenke I believe owned more than 50% of Arsenal by the time RVP left in 2012. Full ownership in 2018.

Author:  Bernard [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:17 pm ]
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Zed wrote:
Leon Gontran wrote:
Kroenke I believe owned more than 50% of Arsenal by the time RVP left in 2012. Full ownership in 2018.

Very much more than 50% by 2012 Zed. Kroenke owned two-thirds (66.64%) of the club as early as April 2011 when Fiszman died.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:09 pm ]
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Zed wrote:
Gaz from Oz wrote:
I would have thought that if the sick players were in the team our whole team would be locked down and no games. Given some research I have heard about suggests that you can be contagious For 5 days without showing symptoms it becomes very messy. Maybe the testing will show if u have it.

No doubt neither club is taking any chances being that the Carabao match is tomorrow. Testing possibly done today and again prior to match.

Worrying times as your season can be totally derailed if you have to defer a large number of games. Season is already crowded enough

Author:  Zed [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:47 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
Zed wrote:

Very much more than 50% by 2012 Zed. Kroenke owned two-thirds (66.64%) of the club as early as April 2011 when Fiszman died.

It was two-thirds at the time in 2011 Bernard, yes.

Author:  Zed [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:49 am ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
Zed wrote:
No doubt neither club is taking any chances being that the Carabao match is tomorrow. Testing possibly done today and again prior to match.

Worrying times as your season can be totally derailed if you have to defer a large number of games. Season is already crowded enough

Too much fixture congestion lately. Seems C19 tests were done Monday.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:56 am ]
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DHD wrote:
I wonder if Alexis demanded ‘assurances’ from Man U about buying players before signing a £500k per week contract? Anyone think Özil asked for any assurances beyond soft fluffy towels?

It’s mostly bollocks. Players don’t give a *%^@ about much beyond their personal remuneration. Man U have been signing ‘ambitious’ world-class players - NAMES - for years without a sniff of European opportunity.


LOL..generally speaking I wholeheartedly agree with you. But there are exceptions. Cesc left because we didn't have a good squad and didn't seem like we would.
RvP was reportedly asking the same about who to buy, etc. but with him its hard to tell.

So, we get down to Aubameyang and I think with him, I can see him wanting to know that we are not going to spend the next few years fighting to be top half of the table.

Normally, I'd certainly agree many if not most players are looking for the pay.

Author:  long time gooner [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:37 am ]
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Quite surreal. Just been watching the highlights of last night’s West Ham game. Whenever West Ham scored a blast of Twist and Shout was relayed over the sound system to the empty stadium. All sounded weird and incredibly naff.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:44 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Moyes and 2 West Ham players test positive for Covid.


Jesus, this means Wilfried Zaha probably has it too then.

Author:  Rich [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:49 am ]
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Zed wrote:
Gaz from Oz wrote:
Worrying times as your season can be totally derailed if you have to defer a large number of games. Season is already crowded enough

Too much fixture congestion lately. Seems C19 tests were done Monday.

I read that all Arsenal players were tested at some point after the West Ham game and there were no positives. Like all clubs, the players and staff must be being tested multiple times each week. The stakes are so high if there is an outbreak

Author:  Rich [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:55 am ]
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Ornstein saying Arsenal are open to letting Reis Nelson go on loan this season. With Willian joining and Saka and AMN being able to play right wing I think it is the right decision. Get him playing a full season of prem football - including penalty clauses for the team who takes him if he doesn't get enough game time. Then reassess next summer.
Ornstein also saying Partey and Aouar remain the primary targets but Arsenal have back ups.

One player who's name has been linked with a number of clubs previously but I've not heard much this summer is Dennis Zakaria, plays for Muchengladbach, central midfield, 23, Swiss international. When Xhaka blew up there was talk of us trying to send Xhaka there in exchange for this lad

Author:  old man of hoy [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:57 am ]
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Decaf wrote:
Maybe he stipulated that he only wants central midfielders who pass the ball sideways? Perhaps he's come to relish the challenge of having to come back and fetch it himself?
When needed we do have a bloke sitting on the sidelines who is a more than useful opener of defences. I don't mind a sideways pass provided it eventually gets to somebody with imagination - the great Gilberto played many of them for Arsenal and Brazil.

Author:  Goonie [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:04 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Ornstein saying Arsenal are open to letting Reis Nelson go on loan this season. With Willian joining and Saka and AMN being able to play right wing I think it is the right decision. Get him playing a full season of prem football - including penalty clauses for the team who takes him if he doesn't get enough game time. Then reassess next summer.
Ornstein also saying Partey and Aouar remain the primary targets but Arsenal have back ups.

One player who's name has been linked with a number of clubs previously but I've not heard much this summer is Dennis Zakaria, plays for Muchengladbach, central midfield, 23, Swiss international. When Xhaka blew up there was talk of us trying to send Xhaka there in exchange for this lad


I believe we can only register 17 non-homegrown players for the 25-man squad? We need to ship out a few to make space for new midfielders.

Author:  Goonie [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:10 am ]
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old man of hoy wrote:
Decaf wrote:
Maybe he stipulated that he only wants central midfielders who pass the ball sideways? Perhaps he's come to relish the challenge of having to come back and fetch it himself?
When needed we do have a bloke sitting on the sidelines who is a more than useful opener of defences. I don't mind a sideways pass provided it eventually gets to somebody with imagination - the great Gilberto played many of them for Arsenal and Brazil.


I think not playing/including Özil in the team could be to avoid paying him any extra bonuses. He would still get his basic but the club sort of save a bit of money.

Author:  Decaf [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:29 am ]
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Goonie wrote:
old man of hoy wrote:
When needed we do have a bloke sitting on the sidelines who is a more than useful opener of defences. I don't mind a sideways pass provided it eventually gets to somebody with imagination - the great Gilberto played many of them for Arsenal and Brazil.


I think not playing/including Özil in the team could be to avoid paying him any extra bonuses. He would still get his basic but the club sort of save a bit of money.

'Özil' and 'saving money' look odd in the same post. But yes.

Author:  Bernard [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:58 am ]
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Decaf wrote:
Goonie wrote:
I think not playing/including Özil in the team could be to avoid paying him any extra bonuses. He would still get his basic but the club sort of save a bit of money.

'Özil' and 'saving money' look odd in the same post. But yes.

It’ll be interesting to see if Özil gets in the team tonight. If he isn’t selected for even the League Cup, the odds on him having already played his last game for Arsenal will shorten, I imagine. Same goes for Guendouzi.

Author:  Rich [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:10 am ]
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Goonie wrote:
Rich wrote:
Ornstein saying Arsenal are open to letting Reis Nelson go on loan this season. With Willian joining and Saka and AMN being able to play right wing I think it is the right decision. Get him playing a full season of prem football - including penalty clauses for the team who takes him if he doesn't get enough game time. Then reassess next summer.
Ornstein also saying Partey and Aouar remain the primary targets but Arsenal have back ups.

One player who's name has been linked with a number of clubs previously but I've not heard much this summer is Dennis Zakaria, plays for Muchengladbach, central midfield, 23, Swiss international. When Xhaka blew up there was talk of us trying to send Xhaka there in exchange for this lad


I believe we can only register 17 non-homegrown players for the 25-man squad? We need to ship out a few to make space for new midfielders.

Arsenal have 19 non Homegrown players over the age of 21: Leno, Runnarsson Tierney, Sokratis, Gabriel, Ceballos, Lacazette, Özil, Torreira, Willian, Aubameyang, Cédric, Pépé, Mustafi, Pablo Mari, David Luiz, Elneny, Kolasinac, and Xhaka
The limit is 17 so we need to move 3 players on (or not include them in our squad *cough Özil cough*) to be able to make a signing
I would think Sokratis, Kolasinac, Torreira, Elneny are the ones targeted to move - as well as Guendouzi but he doesn't come in to this listing yet.
It doesn't mean we can't buy before we sell because we could buy Partey, not find a buyer for Sokratis (for example) and just not include him in our Prem squad for the season

Author:  Rich [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:13 am ]
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Wolves sold Doherty for £15m and just sign Semedo from barca for up to £37m. Doesn't seem to make sense.

BBC also show a graphic that Wolves are 1 CB away from being able to field an entire Portuguese 11. It makes you wonder how Wolves are complying with the home grown and non home grown rules. They only have 4 englishmen in their entire first team squad

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:54 am ]
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I didn't know loaned players could have a proviso they play a certain amount or penalized if not. I'm assuming this doesn't include injuries obviously. Great idea! :58big-emoticons:

Author:  Rich [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:13 am ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
I didn't know loaned players could have a proviso they play a certain amount or penalized if not. I'm assuming this doesn't include injuries obviously. Great idea! :58big-emoticons:

It is just a contract between clubs, if it is agreed to you can put whatever clause you want in it.

Lots of players have payment clauses after a certain number of games, or payment clauses if they play over 70 minutes in games etc. Which is why, particularly lower down the leagues where money is very tight, you see managers dropping players or regularly subbing them off - essentially on instructions from the chairman because they can't afford, or don't want to pay those extra fees

Author:  Rich [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:15 am ]
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https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... a-18974795
Interesting article on our new left field signing in goal.
Good with his feet, good at 1v1's

I think this is a calculated gamble for this season for a very low price, then look to go back for David Raya next season.

Author:  Rich [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:18 am ]
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Very tough run of games in the league after the cup match tonight. Last year we took 3 points from these games.
Liverpool A
Sheff Utd H
Man City A
Leicester H
Man Utd A

It isn't beyond the realms of possibility that we don't win a single one of those games. Those 3 away games are the toughest in the league. I'd hope with Mikel's tactics we can put up a better showing. 3 draws would be excellent for the belief even if it doesn't push the points tally on that much. All 3 will come and attack us, so let them have the ball, stay compact and hit them on the counter. With those 3 away games, the 2 at home become must win!

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:52 am ]
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I'm reading articles we are prioritizing Partey over Aouar if we can only get one. Glad to see Arteta has been reading my posts since I threatened to block him. :42laughter:

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:54 am ]
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In the AG universe
Liverpool away draw
Sheff Utd home win
Man City away draw
Leicester home win
Man Utd away 9-2 win...payback is a female dog.

Author:  DHD [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:29 pm ]
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Proper team:

1 B Leno
16 R Holding
23 D Luiz (c)
31 S Kolasinac
15 A Maitland-Niles
25 M Elneny
28 J Willock
7 B Saka
19 N Pépé
30 E Nketiah
24 R Nelson

Substitutes
2 H Bellerin
4 W Saliba
8 D Ceballos
9 A Lacazette
12 Willian
13 R Rúnarsson
34 G Xhaka

Author:  socrates [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:39 pm ]
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Any links for the game?

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:50 pm ]
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Lovely effort from Reiss

Author:  socrates [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:51 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
Lovely effort from Reiss


How are you watching it Brom?

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:54 pm ]
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socrates wrote:
Any links for the game?

Sorry Soc I've got a dodgy login for something called 247tv off a friend of a friend, been dodgy recently but working so far tonight.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:56 pm ]
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socrates wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
Lovely effort from Reiss


How are you watching it Brom?

See above Soc it's streaming DAZN.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:07 pm ]
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We're on top, a few half chances so far but no end product yet.

Author:  Hazuki [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:12 pm ]
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Surely that's a penalty?

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:14 pm ]
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Clear pen foul on Saka ref gives a goal kick - presumably no VAR.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:14 pm ]
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Hazuki wrote:
Surely that's a penalty?

Definitely.

Author:  socrates [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:16 pm ]
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Hazuki wrote:
Surely that's a penalty?


How are you watching it Haz?

Author:  Hazuki [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:17 pm ]
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socrates wrote:
Hazuki wrote:
Surely that's a penalty?


How are you watching it Haz?

It's on TV here in Sweden!

Author:  Ash [ Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:22 pm ]
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http://mzupdate.com/ronaldo/hd4.php here you go soc, don't crash it for me! refresh if it stops, seems decent

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