We haven’t missed Guendouzi one iota since he’s been taken out the fold. Not sure why would contemplate re signing him. Arteta sounds like he can’t wait to see the back of him.

If Guendouzi can sort his head out he could be a fantastic player. He will be a player for another thirteen or fourteen years. I very much doubt Arteta will be Arsenal’s manager for anything like that long.

At the very least we should have a clause to get a significant proportion of the transfer fee when his next club sells him, in case Arteta is still at Arsenal when that happens.

If Guendouzi can sort his head out he could be a fantastic player. He will be a player for another thirteen or fourteen years. I very much doubt Arteta will be Arsenal’s manager for anything like that long.

Would you agree we looked far better and more balanced after he was removed from the fold ?

Bernard: If you could keep Guendouzi OR Arteta who would you choose?

With Kroenke as the owner it probably doesn’t matter. To have a different owner I would give up both Arteta and Guendouzi.

I understand your point, however given Kroenke isn't going any where which you would prefer to keep, Arteta or Guendouzi? Personally I'd prefer to keep Arteta.

I think we would have been better with him in the team. There were a number of disappointing performances towards the end of the season, as well as some decent ones.

Who would you have dropped to accommodate him ? Xhaka ? Ceballos

Torreira against Villa. Xhaka in some games. I wish I hadn’t bothered answering you because you seem to be happy to waste time and effort debating meaningless nonsense about player x or player b. While Stan is the owner, I have difficulty in seeing it as anything other than pointless.

My own view, and that’s all it is - a view and my own - is that it’s largely insignificant while Kroenke is the owner. I’m determined to try and be more disciplined in future and, while KSE owns Arsenal, avoid claptrap about Guendouzi or anyone else. If you find it entertaining or that it passes your time, keep going.

You can blame Kroenke all you want and I don’t think he’s a great owner but he’s made 2 mistakes, arsenal Fans won’t admit it but far more damaging than any of his influence was that as fans we stood by and watched Wenger run the club adrift and we are still paying for those consequences. He couldn’t sack Wenger whilst 50 percent of our fans still worshipped him.

In October 2008 after that spurs debacle I knew Wenger was finished yet mention it on here and I’d get an earful. A decade later with no tactic changes, coaching changes or anything just anything people finally finally twigged. Years and years it took. It was too late, Now the 2 new managers since are screwed with no champions league football, no money, few sellable assets in their squads and a huge wage bill.

The persons responsible for our transfers the summer of 2016 when we sold rosicky and Jack Wilshere and spent 100 million on Perez, Xhaka and Mustafi did more damage than Kroenke ever could.

Btw wanting us to get relegated is totally nuts !, the next owner is liable to be an even bigger nutter in this day and age.

You can blame Kroenke all you want and I don’t think he’s a great owner but he’s made 2 mistakes, arsenal Fans won’t admit it but far more damaging than any of his influence was that as fans we stood by and watched Wenger run the club adrift and we are still paying for those consequences. He couldn’t sack Wenger whilst 50 percent of our fans still worshipped him.

In October 2008 after that spurs debacle I knew Wenger was finished yet mention it on here and I’d get an earful. A decade later with no tactic changes, coaching changes or anything just anything people finally finally twigged. Years and years it took. It was too late, Now the 2 new managers since are screwed with no champions league football, no money, few sellable assets in their squads and a huge wage bill.

The persons responsible for our transfers the summer of 2016 when we sold rosicky and Jack Wilshere and spent 100 million on Perez, Xhaka and Mustafi did more damage than Kroenke ever could.

Btw wanting us to get relegated is totally nuts !, the next owner is liable to be an even bigger nutter in this day and age.

The provisos about who the new owner would be and going straight back up was made, I thought. If it was the only way of getting him to sell, I’m not sure it is nuts. You say Kroenke has only made two mistakes. Not sacking Wenger earlier was one. What’s your other?

For me keeping Wenger in post so long was symptomatic of his ownership philosophy. A lack of ambition to win trophies. The club no longer has that ambition. Wenger matched it as the game had outgrown him, as it does with practically all managers. We’re seeing it with Mourinho too. I’m expecting it to with Klopp and Guardiola also, however long it takes. The game moves on from what once made managers great. Wenger was great in his day.

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Back in August 2011 this wasn't so pretty either.

For me the 2 Kroenke mistakes are not sacking Wenger quick enough although 50% of our fans still wanted him even at the end almost and an owner cant act under that circumstance. The second is appointing Emery who was the wrong guy. Even Emery though had to deal with Arsenes cloud looming over the club and wasn’t allowed to sign Zaha with the board preferring Pépé.

Word is after Aubameyang signs, Lacazette is being sold to Aletico. Aubameyang and Lacazette are very close friends. It won't go over well but I understand we have sell before we can buy additional players past the 30 mil budget.

Who would you have dropped to accommodate him ? Xhaka ? Ceballos

Watching the Anelka documentary and about 3/4 through. Usually you expect to be sympathetic to the person its about but I wasn't. I am coming away thinking he's immature.

Watching the Anelka documentary and about 3/4 through. Usually you expect to be sympathetic to the person its about but I wasn't. I am coming away thinking he's immature.

So, if you could only keep 1 and sell the other which way round is it? I think Martinez might count as a home grown player as well, is a year younger, on lower wages and Leno may be the one that attracts the higher transfer fee. In an ideal world you find a way to keep them both but when there are gaping holes in the rest of your squad it doesn't make sense to have a £30m+ GK sitting on the bench when that money could plug a hole in defence or central midfield.

Sky saying 2 clubs are in for AMN 2 from the premiership including Tottenham and one from the bundesliga

I know I made a post not long ago about how we maybe should be looking to sell Martinez in the summer if a big bid comes in, but he's made the decision more difficult with each game he's played. I do agree it's probably not possible to keep them both on for much longer, but it won't be easy to choose between them.

Martinez looks more assured on crosses and corners, although I think Leno isn't as bad as suggested in this area. Leno is better 1v1 and have better reflexes. I like the way Martinez often manages to hold on to the ball when making saves, not leaving any rebounds. And then there's the experience bit; as impressive as Martinez has been, it's still a run of about 10 games, whereas Leno has been a starting keeper at the top level for nine years.

Not an easy decision, and I guess some of it depends on Leno's injury, but seeing as we need to strengthen the squad a bit and aren't flush with cash, it might be poor asset management to hold on to both of them.

Another plus point for Emi Martinez is he's considered as HG. He's been very good so far and I think we can afford to keep both for another season at least to see whether EM can maintain his form or do a Manninger.