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Author:  Rich [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:05 pm ]
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Winks is finally booked. The same foul he's made 3 times already today
Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:05 pm ]
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So Winks finally gets a yellow for an identical cheat/foul.

Should have has the earlier one.
Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:06 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Winks is finally booked. The same foul he's made 3 times already today

Unsurprisingly I agree with that :12hello-bye:
Author:  Rich [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:08 pm ]
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close from Aubameyand - great technique
Author:  Rich [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:10 pm ]
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2-1 spurs from the corner
Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:11 pm ]
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Bollox. After yet another great save from Martinez.
Author:  warrior [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:11 pm ]
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And there it is. :8angers:
Author:  Rich [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:11 pm ]
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Feels crazy that we're going to lose to such a sh*t spurs team, I mean they have been bloody awful today. Such a spawny game from them but Mourinho will love it
Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:12 pm ]
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I could see that coming. :20hospitals:
Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:12 pm ]
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Oh grief. Mustafi has gone to pieces. Lucky to get away with that.
Author:  john1 [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:13 pm ]
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Kolasinac’s cockup changed the whole game. There was a palpable feeling of energy and belief draining out of the side after that.

He should be on the out list.
Author:  Rich [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:13 pm ]
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Lets be clear here, Spurs have been utterly bereft of any ideas, any tactics, any building up of play. This is one of the worst performances that we're going to lose to this season
Author:  Darren [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:14 pm ]
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The back three should be shot. Kolasinac and Mustafi in particular have been abysmal today.
Author:  Rich [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:15 pm ]
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Yet another lead thrown away. 15 points from winning positions in Arteta's reign
Author:  warrior [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:15 pm ]
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And have a guess which team has the most players unavailable ?

https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php

And this

Matteo Guendouzi "Internal Disciplinary Matter" No Return Date
Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:15 pm ]
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john1 wrote:
Kolasinac’s cockup changed the whole game. There was a palpable feeling of energy and belief draining out of the side after that.

He should be on the out list.

Horrible wasn’t it?

And as I type Martinez bails us out yet again.
Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:17 pm ]
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Very, very disappointing
Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:19 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
Very, very disappointing

Yup. Should have been in control at 1-0. Looked in control at 1-1. Cocked it up.
Author:  Rich [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:20 pm ]
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moved the ball well until the final third then a distinct lack of creativity
Author:  Darren [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:21 pm ]
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Mustafi made one mistake not long before the second spurs goal and since then has absolutely fallen apart. Shambles of a player.
Author:  warrior [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:22 pm ]
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Still could be 3 -1 yet
Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:24 pm ]
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Our man of the match imo: Martinez
Author:  warrior [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:24 pm ]
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3 points lost there. :36angers:
Author:  Rich [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:25 pm ]
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45% of our goals conceded have been from set-pieces. That is crazy.

Seriously, sorting out defending set-pieces should be one of the easiest ways to shore up a team, you're totally in control of your own set up. Sort that out and cut out the shoot yourself in the foot type errors - obviously every goal can be put down to defensive errors but I mean the ones like Kolasinac today - and you have ateam that wipes 20 goals of the goals against column
Author:  john1 [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:26 pm ]
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There are still some positive signs though that it’s slowly coming together.

Keep the faith.

(We should all be very good at clinging to faith by now; we’ve had plenty of practice over the past few years)
Author:  Rich [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:27 pm ]
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That's the worst Tottenham performance that has managed to beat us since I can remember.

Quite happy for Mourinho to stay with them, he will get results out of the hat today but with better teams than us who are more clinical, more professional, more concentrated and more creative he's losing 9 times out of 10
Author:  thofman [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:30 pm ]
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No Wenger now. No Emery now. But the club of the once mighty Invincibles are still the Invertebrates!

What a sad, pathetic imitation of a top club Arsenal have become. Good luck to Aubamayang, whichever club he signs for. It won't even bother me now if he does a Van Persie and stays in London or Manchester.
Author:  socrates [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:30 pm ]
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Roll up, roll up......come and see the greatest clown show on earth.
Author:  Rich [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:30 pm ]
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warrior wrote:
3 points lost there. :36angers:

another 3 points.

Far too often we've gifted away games we should have won. late equalisers at home or games we're in control of being turned around away from home.

The lack of leaders on the pitch and the lack of accountability stemming from Wenger's days still hurting.

I really hope, and I do think, that Arteta will identify those players making those mistakes and lack of concentration and ensure they don't have along term future. Feels like his hands are tied somewhat at the moment.
Author:  socrates [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:30 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
That's the worst Tottenham performance that has managed to beat us since I can remember.

Quite happy for Mourinho to stay with them, he will get results out of the hat today but with better teams than us who are more clinical, more professional, more concentrated and more creative he's losing 9 times out of 10


They were there for the taking, Rich.
Author:  Goonie [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:36 pm ]
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2nd half Spurs got a lot of joy on our right side of defence. Mustafi got beat several times but where was Bellerin? Tactical mistake by Arteta. We were vulnerable to their counter attacks.
Author:  Goonie [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:39 pm ]
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Should have started Saka with Tierney as part of the three-man defence and bench Kola.
Author:  Goonie [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:44 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
45% of our goals conceded have been from set-pieces. That is crazy.

Seriously, sorting out defending set-pieces should be one of the easiest ways to shore up a team, you're totally in control of your own set up. Sort that out and cut out the shoot yourself in the foot type errors - obviously every goal can be put down to defensive errors but I mean the ones like Kolasinac today - and you have ateam that wipes 20 goals of the goals against column

And our corners and free kicks were just a waste of time today. In a tight game, ability to score from set-piece is a big advantage.
Author:  david.d [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:44 pm ]
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I felt very uncomfortable before the game the way we were being made favourites and people being a downer on spurs.
Knew it would be sods law and we would *%^@*** lose the match!!
Mourinho *%^@*** does us again
Author:  Bernard [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:12 pm ]
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Goonie wrote:
but where was Bellerin? Tactical mistake by Arteta. We were vulnerable to their counter attacks.

Sorry for sounding like socrates but Bellerin has lost so much pace it’s frightening. Heard a rumour that Seville want him. Sounds his level now he’s so slow, for a full back anyway. If true I can see it happening to get some money in.
Author:  socrates [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:17 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
Goonie wrote:
but where was Bellerin? Tactical mistake by Arteta. We were vulnerable to their counter attacks.

Sorry for sounding like socrates but Bellerin has lost so much pace it’s frightening. Heard a rumour that Seville want him. Sounds his level now he’s so slow, for a full back anyway. If true I can see it happening to get some money in.


Seville are probably a step-up from us.
Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:22 pm ]
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socrates wrote:
Bernard wrote:
Sorry for sounding like socrates but Bellerin has lost so much pace it’s frightening. Heard a rumour that Seville want him. Sounds his level now he’s so slow, for a full back anyway. If true I can see it happening to get some money in.


Seville are probably a step-up from us.

Or two.
Author:  john1 [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:55 pm ]
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Arteta said:

"If we minimise the mistakes we do and keep playing like that, we will win many, many football games."

I think that’s correct.

Now where’s that straw.........
Author:  dec [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:03 pm ]
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I think there are positives from today. We were in control for the majority of the game. There is a growing decisiveness in the team play as Arteta's coaching is having an impact. The gaping holes through midfield are gone and Ceballos & Zhaka are developing a good partnership.

Obviously, Kolasinac's error was a brutal one. I can't see him being with us next season. Mustafi has been very good of late and played well for 60mins before going to pieces. Hard to know what to do with him.

I won't mind at all if we miss out on Europe. It might help us a lot in the league.
Author:  Rich [ Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:04 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
Goonie wrote:
but where was Bellerin? Tactical mistake by Arteta. We were vulnerable to their counter attacks.

Sorry for sounding like socrates but Bellerin has lost so much pace it’s frightening. Heard a rumour that Seville want him. Sounds his level now he’s so slow, for a full back anyway. If true I can see it happening to get some money in.

You could say the same for so many of our squad. If a decent offer came in you'd happily sell 75% of them I reckon.
On the basis that we are probably in a break even requirement in our finances for transfers this summer I can't see Bellerin being one of those sold unless Sevilla go for £30m+. If we sold him we'd have to replace him in a position that doesn't actually need surgery as much as other areas.
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