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Author:  Rich [ Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:32 pm ]
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What happens in the following scenario?
Top 4 is liverpool, City, Leicester, Wolves
Man U win the Europa league and come 5th
Does it mean the team coming 6th would go in to the champions league of City are banned?

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:54 am ]
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A good friend of mine was a Westham supporter so I often used to discuss the club with him. It struck me for many years that Westham continually purchased players who were in pre-retirement employment. They would never put in the effort for the whole season, knew they would not win honours and in the really bad years they flirted with or were relegated. They did not believe. Shredded some managers and really were just their for the wages. The young upcoming players can't wait to leave but there isn't many of them. Wilshire is the classic recent example.

Everton were a very similar club in both recruitment and what they achieved.

It strikes me : that is now us. We buy players like Sokrates, Luiz, Soares, Aubameyang, Mkh, Lacazette and keep Özil. We don't make the hard decisions and we have the distinction from the other teams of overpaying by large amounts and boosting the pension funds. Keeping Luiz and Ceballos is beyond explanation. If I see Willian mentioned it really signals the end.

Edu was very careful to point out it was him and Arteta who kept Luiz and the others. Arteta will be responsible. Given, unlike Emery, the manager has a say I will be looking with interest at our signings.

Will we get more overpaid pensioners. If the culture of the club is truly to change, this cannot continue.

Author:  Rich [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:56 am ]
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Seems like arsenal are cancelling Mkhitaryan’s contract and letting him go for free. Saves his £10m a year wages but Roma offered us £10m for him as a transfer fee inJanuary that we turned down because we thought he was worth more! On the basis that there couldn’t be any more offers until the summer window why did Arsenal think his value would go up when he only had a year left on a very high contract. We should have snapped Roma’s hand off in jan, just like we should have snapped City’s hand off when they offered us £60m for Sanchez.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:05 am ]
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Having just posted, the Daily Mail decided to wind me up to a level of inappropriate language for the house with this article.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ummer.html

Author:  Rich [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:38 am ]
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St Ettiene are having a pop at us this morning because they deem the terms we set out for allowing the extension of Saliba's loan back to them until to them until the end of the season as unacceptable.

Apparently it is over a £2.5m fee we agreed to pay them if Saliba played 17 games this season, a reasonable incentive to ensure St Ettiene played him whilst on loan. The Cup final would have been the 17th game so Arsenal don't want to allow him to extend his loan AND pay them a fee for the pleasure! Exactly right. Feel Sorry for Saliba but why should we fork out for our own player. Every other team re-negotiated the terms on any loan extension why should we lose £2.5m just to do another club a favour!?

Author:  old man of hoy [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:44 am ]
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Rich wrote:
St Ettiene are having a pop at us this morning because they deem the terms we set out for allowing the extension of Saliba's loan back to them until to them until the end of the season as unacceptable.

Apparently it is over a £2.5m fee we agreed to pay them if Saliba played 17 games this season, a reasonable incentive to ensure St Ettiene played him whilst on loan. The Cup final would have been the 17th game so Arsenal don't want to allow him to extend his loan AND pay them a fee for the pleasure! Exactly right. Feel Sorry for Saliba but why should we fork out for our own player. Every other team re-negotiated the terms on any loan extension why should we lose £2.5m just to do another club a favour!?

But at his press conference yesterday didn't Arteta say Arsenal are happy for him to play the Cup Final?

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:46 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Seems like arsenal are cancelling Mkhitaryan’s contract and letting him go for free. Saves his £10m a year wages but Roma offered us £10m for him as a transfer fee inJanuary that we turned down because we thought he was worth more! On the basis that there couldn’t be any more offers until the summer window why did Arsenal think his value would go up when he only had a year left on a very high contract. We should have snapped Roma’s hand off in jan, just like we should have snapped City’s hand off when they offered us £60m for Sanchez.


I hope this is not true. :8angers: But it sounds like us.

Author:  Rich [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:06 am ]
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old man of hoy wrote:
Rich wrote:
St Ettiene are having a pop at us this morning because they deem the terms we set out for allowing the extension of Saliba's loan back to them until to them until the end of the season as unacceptable.

Apparently it is over a £2.5m fee we agreed to pay them if Saliba played 17 games this season, a reasonable incentive to ensure St Ettiene played him whilst on loan. The Cup final would have been the 17th game so Arsenal don't want to allow him to extend his loan AND pay them a fee for the pleasure! Exactly right. Feel Sorry for Saliba but why should we fork out for our own player. Every other team re-negotiated the terms on any loan extension why should we lose £2.5m just to do another club a favour!?

But at his press conference yesterday didn't Arteta say Arsenal are happy for him to play the Cup Final?

He did, but I assume he was just talking on the basis that Arsenal can't use him so why not extend the loan. The money side of things adds complexity

Author:  Rich [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:11 am ]
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Man U look like like picking up a head of steam, I can see them getting top 4 at this rate, even ousting Chelsea.
Greenwood looks like some player at only 18. Along with Rashford and Martial they have that dynamic front 3 that most top clubs are striving for. All quick, mobile, can dribble, score and assist and are all comfortable in any of the front 3 positions.
Liverpool's 3 do this, and before there was the famous Messi/Suarez/Neymar at Barca - or evn before that was Rooney/Ronaldo/Tevez at Man U. I'm convinced this is the way we should be building our attack. Martinelli fits this mould perfectly. Pépé to some extent.

These wide players who can drift centrally and still score 15 and assists 15 a season are gold dust right now. Jadon Sancho being one of the best right now and certainly finding his way back to the prem for big money soon

Author:  Rich [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:12 am ]
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Rich wrote:
old man of hoy wrote:
But at his press conference yesterday didn't Arteta say Arsenal are happy for him to play the Cup Final?

He did, but I assume he was just talking on the basis that Arsenal can't use him so why not extend the loan. The money side of things adds complexity

https://www.arsenal.com/news/william-saliba-statement

Author:  Rich [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:26 pm ]
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https://www.arsenal.com/news/bukayo-sak ... m-contract
Bukayo Saka signs new long term contract! Fantastic news, incredible prospect

Author:  Rich [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:30 pm ]
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Seen rumours of Arsenal wanting Memphis Depay if Aubamayang or Lacazette leave. I don't remember him as a striker, but know he's played a lot better for Lyon than he ever did for Man U, still only 26, 19, 10 and 9 goals in his last 3 seasons (9 goals being the current curtailed french season) and only 1 year left on his current deal.

I wonder what other players are out there with only 1 year left on their deal? Must be plenty who would be available at a better price. We've got some of our own!

Author:  Rich [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:35 pm ]
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RB Salzburg forward He-Chan Hwang looks like moving to RB Leipzig to replace Timo Werner for only about £10m. Really liked the look of Hwang when he played the two games against Liverpool in the champions league this season. 11 goals and 21 assists for them this season. He could be one who is worth triple that in a couple of seasons

Dominik Szoboszlai is another at RB Salzburg who is a very good young player. Creative midfielder.

Author:  Rich [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:38 pm ]
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Leno, Saliba, Tierney, Saka, Martinelli, Pépé. 6 players with long term contracts, all young (or young for a GK in Leno's case) now is the time to build the team around them and build a team to their strengths.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:44 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
https://www.arsenal.com/news/bukayo-saka-signs-new-long-term-contract
Bukayo Saka signs new long term contract! Fantastic news, incredible prospect

Great news.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:29 pm ]
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Great news Rich.
The names you mentioned needed to be signed.

Author:  long time gooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:43 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
https://www.arsenal.com/news/bukayo-saka-signs-new-long-term-contract
Bukayo Saka signs new long term contract! Fantastic news, incredible prospect

Truly wonderful news. A bit unexpected to be honest, and all the more pleasurable for it.

Perhaps we can build a team of young motivated players?

Author:  Ash [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:45 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Rich wrote:
He did, but I assume he was just talking on the basis that Arsenal can't use him so why not extend the loan. The money side of things adds complexity

https://www.arsenal.com/news/william-saliba-statement


St.Ettiene shooting themselves in the foot there. They clearly want the money more than they want Saliba to play. Which is fair enough I suppose, but also, do one.

Author:  Ash [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:46 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Rich wrote:
https://www.arsenal.com/news/bukayo-saka-signs-new-long-term-contract
Bukayo Saka signs new long term contract! Fantastic news, incredible prospect

Truly wonderful news. A bit unexpected to be honest, and all the more pleasurable for it.

Perhaps we can build a team of young motivated players?


Did not expect that. I wonder how big that will be! Like the statement of signing Özil but with an actual player at the end of it!

Author:  Ash [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:48 pm ]
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If you could sell two players to make funds available, because I’m convinced thats the only way we’re making any signings other than free’s and loans, who would you let go?

Mine would be Lacazette and (look away Bern) Guendouzi. Two players who would bring in decent fees and I think have played out their time here.

Author:  bubblechris [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:20 pm ]
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Soares on the bench. Hope he gets a run out. Nelson, Lacazette, Aubameyang up front. Must be a few goals in there..................

Shout out to Mustafi who is on an excellent run. The boss has definitely improved him and sorted out his head.....................

Win and we go 7th a point above Spurs.

Author:  DHD [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:23 pm ]
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Martinez
Bellerin Mustafi Luiz Kolasinac
Xhaka Ceballos Tierney Nelson
Lacazette Aubameyang (c)

Neither Özil nor Guendouzi on the bench

Author:  long time gooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:22 pm ]
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Sheeesh! Hell of a strike from their defender. Happy to see that hit the post and stay out.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:23 pm ]
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Maybe its the quality (or lack thereof) of the opposition but the passing and spacing is much better.

Author:  long time gooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:24 pm ]
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Ceballos looking sharp with some clever and incisive passing in areas that matter.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:25 pm ]
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How do you feel about this water break thing?

Author:  long time gooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:31 pm ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
How do you feel about this water break thing?

Not bothered either way

Author:  long time gooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:33 pm ]
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We keep knocking on the door. Better finishing needed

Author:  long time gooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:33 pm ]
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Ah. Another present

Deja vu

Author:  long time gooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:38 pm ]
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Wow. Great move. Great goal.

Tierney exploiting space consistently.

Author:  Ash [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:39 pm ]
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Wengerball at its finest

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:42 pm ]
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Things looking a bit brighter overall than they did a few weeks ago. Third win in a row coming up (touch wood), and Saka signed up.

Author:  Ash [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:47 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
Things looking a bit brighter overall than they did a few weeks ago. Third win in a row coming up (touch wood), and Saka signed up.


Looks like they found the Ramsey purple patch juice down the back of the London Colney sofa and dosed everyone at the club!

Author:  DHD [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:56 pm ]
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I know it’s Norwich but we look really good. Difficult to fault anything about that first half performance. Second goal was an absolute cracker.

Author:  long time gooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:06 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
Things looking a bit brighter overall than they did a few weeks ago. Third win in a row coming up (touch wood), and Saka signed up.

We’ve been under the cosh ever since you posted that.

No relaxing here that’s for sure.

Author:  Ash [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:10 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
Things looking a bit brighter overall than they did a few weeks ago. Third win in a row coming up (touch wood), and Saka signed up.

We’ve been under the cosh ever since you posted that.

No relaxing here that’s for sure.


Ye, I'm blaming you too Brom, shocking behaviour.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:13 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
long time gooner wrote:
We’ve been under the cosh ever since you posted that.

No relaxing here that’s for sure.


Ye, I'm blaming you too Brom, shocking behaviour.

Calm down chaps, no worries! *prays quietly*

Author:  long time gooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:15 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
Ash wrote:

Ye, I'm blaming you too Brom, shocking behaviour.

Calm down chaps, no worries! *prays quietly*

Too many memories of horror shows from 2 goal leads (or 4 in the case of Newcastle)

Author:  long time gooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:18 pm ]
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VAR in our favour again. We’re on a roll.

Author:  long time gooner [ Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:21 pm ]
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It’s going to be a long 30 minutes if we don’t resume control. We’re all over the place.

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