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Author:  warrior [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:14 pm ]
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Martinez getting some practice in.

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:18 pm ]
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DHD wrote:
long time gooner wrote:
Well you’ve persuaded me. I’m not going to listen to the radio.


Hi LTG
On BT Sports, hit your red button and you get eventually two options - with or without effects, though they aren’t labelled.

You’re right!

Brilliant. Thanks so much for that.

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:19 pm ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
Several minutes after the successful PK, the commentator noted that the official stats stated Arsenal had 0 shots on goal.
Are they only counting shots on goal from open play? What about free kicks?

And what about the Pépé effort that was saved?

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:22 pm ]
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warrior wrote:
Martinez getting some practice in.

VAR also getting some practice. 3 in our favour (correctly) now.

Author:  bubblechris [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:24 pm ]
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When it works properly VAR is excellent both for the game and the fans.

The problem when it happens is still nearly always a ref problem.

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:43 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote:
When it works properly VAR is excellent both for the game and the fans.

The problem when it happens is still nearly always a ref problem.

Fully agree with that.

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:51 pm ]
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Duh! A defensive mistake.

Author:  Gunfire [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:51 pm ]
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The ref is giving soft frees.

Author:  warrior [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:51 pm ]
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Attachment:


Raise your hand who knew they were gonna equalize.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:52 pm ]
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Another lead thrown away

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:54 pm ]
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Yay!!!!

Ceballos!

Author:  warrior [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:55 pm ]
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Oooh yes - 2 - 1 ! :58big-emoticons:

Author:  Rich [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:55 pm ]
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Ceballos! great counter

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:57 pm ]
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Any news on Danny Mills? :42laughter:

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:00 pm ]
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Excellent. A much better performance. Improved throughout the game. Super result.

PS RVP unimpressed though.

Author:  Gunfire [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:01 pm ]
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It'll do.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:02 pm ]
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Full time. The disappointment in the commentators voice in comparison to when Sheff Utd got their equaliser. Unbelievable.

Talksport making the whole narrative about officials being under scrutiny, Sheff utd rightly had 2 goals disallowed from VAR - why is that controversial?

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:05 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
AmericanGooner wrote:
Several minutes after the successful PK, the commentator noted that the official stats stated Arsenal had 0 shots on goal.
Are they only counting shots on goal from open play? What about free kicks?

And what about the Pépé effort that was saved?


The pundits were scratching their heads about it. An error perhaps. Which makes you wonder what else they get wrong.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:11 pm ]
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I'm hoping for the best obviously but its probable we won't be in Europe at all next season.

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:12 pm ]
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That was probably the best performance that I’ve seen from Pépé for us. Which is hugely encouraging.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:14 pm ]
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There is some light in there

I think Tierney and Pépé are decent players. Just need to find their vocation and play regularly. Maitland Niles did well and whilst willock is clumsy he gets in decent positions.

If only we had better give and go midfielders it would make such a difference. Paying Özil that huge contract and letting Ramsey go on a free was devastating for us in hindsight

Author:  Rich [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:21 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
That was probably the best performance that I’ve seen from Pépé for us. Which is hugely encouraging.

With AMN behind him rather than Bellerin. I'd read an article questioning why the link up between bellerin and Pépé hadn't and doesnt work as well as the link ups on the left side. One theory was most of our centre-mids like to naturally drift left which leaves a gap on the right-centre mid to link between Bellerin/Pépé

Author:  DHD [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:22 pm ]
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That was welcome. We could have lost but we won. It wasn’t a great performance but again, I thought we were the better team.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:25 pm ]
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2 away wins in a row. This one without Aubamayang. Hope we avoid City in the semi final draw (assuming they win their QF) I think we have an inferiority complex against City (and Liverpool) that makes it very difficult for us to beat them. In the same way I don't see that same mental block against Chelsea and Man U

Author:  Rich [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:28 pm ]
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Watch Saka for our winner, nice turn half way in our own half, drives 30 yards right through their midfield, picks the right pass for Nketiah and then keeps running to drag their entire defence with him and leave the switch ball to Pépé wide open. Pépé nearly messed it up but Ceballos was there to finish it

Author:  bubblechris [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:05 pm ]
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Wooohooo we're on a run maybe evn two runs............

Author:  Rich [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:05 pm ]
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8 goals and 8 assists from Pépé now for the season, If he could get in double figures for both by the end of the year there wouldn't be many others in the league who could say the same.

Author:  Bored [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:08 pm ]
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I also had the misfortune of hearing a bit of Danny Mills on the radio and as usual he was his chippy self about us. I agree with Rich that it probably stems from his playing career when unfortunately for him he had to face dominant Arsenal teams who often showed him up to be a journeyman footballer. As for the match, it wasn't a great spectacle and it showed up some of our weaknesses such as a lack of midfield creativity and vulnerability from balls lofted into the area. But on the plus side you can see the players are trying to be patient, solid and keeping control of the ball. I would be amazed if we won the FA cup this season given the teams still left in it, but I think there are some green shoots of recovery.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:09 pm ]
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Not a single yellow car for Arsenal today, going by the league average we would have had 3 cards for our 13 fouls. Makes a difference when you don't have Atkinson and Dean reffing every game we play!

Author:  old man of hoy [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:39 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Watch Saka for our winner, nice turn half way in our own half, drives 30 yards right through their midfield, picks the right pass for Nketiah and then keeps running to drag their entire defence with him and leave the switch ball to Pépé wide open. Pépé nearly messed it up but Ceballos was there to finish it
We have a very promising prospect - let's keep him!

Author:  bubblechris [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:47 pm ]
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Semi final draw is at half time of Newcastle v Man City on BBC1

Choices are Man Utd, Chelsea or Man City, poss Newcastle.

I'd rather face Chelsea in the final than the other two, so that's my choice.

Author:  bubblechris [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:32 pm ]
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*%^@ we get Man City.......................

Author:  bubblechris [ Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:33 pm ]
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Come on Newcastle......

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:09 am ]
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The league campaign is done. We aren't going to do much better in the league than we already have been doing.
I am hoping we go for it all in the cup. if we can get to a final that would be fantastic obviously. Either Man Utd or Chelsea. I'd take a lot of joy in beating either. Tough to say who I'd prefer. I'd 'looov it, really looov it' if we beat ta Lampard managed Chelsea. But beating Man Utd in the final would be sheer joy. '79, '05, am I missing any others?

Author:  Rich [ Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:40 am ]
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4 away games in 11 days. That’s a tough schedule.
Wilder complained about sheff Utd having to play 3 away games after his home game against us, said ‘I’ll leave you to work our why that is‘ it annoys me when managers hint at some sort of conspiracy against their team, the fixtures were set at the start of the season and the extra away game was due to a postponed game due to the league cup final. Why doesn’t the interviewer challenge them on it? Ask them to explain what they mean.

Author:  Rich [ Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:43 am ]
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8th place will get a europa league spot this season if City’s van from Europe still stands.
Top 5 minus city will be champions league
6th will get europa due to city winning the league cup
7th or arsenal winning the fa cup will get the Fa cup europa spot
8th will then get the europa spot usually for 5th place

We can’t afford to sack off the league, we’re more likely to get a europa space via the league than the fa cup considering who we need to beat.

Author:  Rich [ Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:39 am ]
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David Ornstein is suggesting Folarin Balogun could leave Arsenal this summer. He only has 12 months left on his current deal. Was only given an 18 month contract when he signed pro terms. The kids has scored bags and bags of goals for the youth teams. We turned down a £5m bid from Brentford in the winter.

Arsenal can't seem to work out what position the club sees themselves in. An absolute eleite level club who wouldn't let contracts constantly run down, or a second tier club who realise they won't always be able to keep hold or match the ambitions of their best players so ensures they are moved on at the right time for good money.

Malen, Gnabry, Reine-Adelaide would be worth a combined £150m at an estimate right now. Not one of them had a buy back or sell on clause.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:00 am ]
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Rich wrote:
8th place will get a europa league spot this season if City’s van from Europe still stands.
Top 5 minus city will be champions league
6th will get europa due to city winning the league cup
7th or arsenal winning the fa cup will get the Fa cup europa spot
8th will then get the europa spot usually for 5th place

We can’t afford to sack off the league, we’re more likely to get a europa space via the league than the fa cup considering who we need to beat.


Thanks. Hadn't realized it went that deep into 8th place. We should be able to squeak by the Blades but you never know.

Author:  Bernard [ Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:50 am ]
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Rich wrote:
David Ornstein is suggesting Folarin Balogun could leave Arsenal this summer. He only has 12 months left on his current deal.

Morning Rich. Many seem to see Ornstein in the context of whatever he says, happens. I’m a member of the AST. I didn’t go to many of their meetings before the lockdown (they’ve been done via zoom since, which I also haven’t bothered with).

Anyway, one I did go to in person had Ornstein as the guest speaker. I can’t recall the terminology used to introduce him, but it was something along those very lines. Little short of what he says about Arsenal is a guaranteed fact. This and other praise I’d seen of him made me do some research on his record for accuracy concerning Arsenal.

Assuming the stuff I read highlighting where he’d got things badly wrong were true, his reputation isn’t quite as deserved as some seem to automatically accept. I saw examples given where what he said had turned out to be completely off course from what did eventually transpire. Sadly I don’t recall these specific cases, but as long as what I’d read on his reports were right, it struck me that he is more than capable of getting things hopelessly wrong.

Look, it could well be that his record on Arsenal is better, even way better, than many journalists. My guess would be that he is, as surely his reputation must be based on something valid? But having said that, I saw enough from what I did read about him to strongly indicate that what he says isn’t always trustworthy. Maybe he isn’t as infallible as many appear to think?

Author:  DHD [ Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:57 am ]
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Rich wrote:
8th place will get a europa league spot this season if City’s van from Europe still stands.
Top 5 minus city will be champions league
6th will get europa due to city winning the league cup
7th or arsenal winning the fa cup will get the Fa cup europa spot
8th will then get the europa spot usually for 5th place

We can’t afford to sack off the league, we’re more likely to get a europa space via the league than the fa cup considering who we need to beat.


Morning Rich

8th or 7th look the likeliest options and neither fills me with anything other than dread.

We'd be starting in the preliminary rounds so 2 or 3 weeks before the Prem kicks off. I think there are 2 or 3 Home & Away qualifier rounds before the proper Group games. We'd be schlepping around the poxiest backwaters of Europe - or bloody Asia - playing in empty stadiums with the barest of TV interest. Where's the financial incentive? What's the point?

I honestly think 9th or 10th would be far better for us.

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