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socrates wrote:

We just do not have the squad to mount any sort of serious challenge and I will be amazed if we are within 6 points of City by the end of January. Infact, I will go further and say that I would be very surprised if we are still 2nd by then. We have looked jaded in the last few games and ridden our luck and today it ran out.

Feel this is very harsh, Soc. What team is looking better poised to be 2nd behind City than us?

bromley gooner wrote:

I'd say Newcastle are well in the running to mount a top 4 challenge.

Hi brom,

Especially if they make a couple of astute signings in Jan.

socrates wrote:

Hi brom,

Especially if they make a couple of astute signings in Jan.

Hi Soc. Fully expect them to do just that.

Kane just scored - 2 - 1 now

A draw would work too.

Hazuki wrote:

Feel this is very harsh, Soc. What team is looking better poised to be 2nd behind City than us?

Just a feeling Haz. Perhaps based on too many Arsenal collapses over the years.

It feels like we are close to losing a few now, unable to keep going for the full 90 mins and relying a bit too much on opposing teams not taking advantage.

Arteta is overplaying a number of our players. Saka looks tired as do others and there has been a drop off recently across the team.

Gaz from Oz wrote:

Arteta is overplaying a number of our players. Saka looks tired as do others and there has been a drop off recently across the team.

I agree the players looked tired but what else should Arteta have done? In the last two European games he played strong sides and we won both games 1-0, perhaps if he’d gone weaker -and weaker meant playing kids - we would have drawn or lost those games, which would mean we have to go strong for the final europa group games or face finishing 2nd in the group and getting another 2 games added to the schedule.

Losing Elneny, Emile Smith Rowe and Zinchenko has not allowed some key rotation where needed.

Rich wrote:

Somewhere you have to put trust in players from the second eleven and then you need to get them to perform. That’s what being a good man manager is. The alternative he has/ had is to take the risk and hope the damage is not that bad. The downside isn’t that bad. Finish second in the group. Yes I know it will be a harder draw in the next round but injuries to 2-3 key players because of being overplayed would be long term a disaster. He keeps going like he is and we could fall in a heap and end up destroying the season.

Gaz from Oz wrote:

I think any manager would need to work on the assumption they needed to keep the winning run going. We’ve all but qualified now so I’d hope he rests players but defeats affect confidence and that needed to be considered.

The main problem yesterday was we didn’t out our chances away and the ref was an absolute *%^@

One thing is becoming increasingly clear, Jesus is a fantastic player but he's not that clinical in front of goal. Quite often he either scuffs of misconnects with his shots. If he is more of a 15 goals a season striker rather than the 20+ one we hoped he might be then we do need more goals from other areas.

Rich wrote:

Lately we seem able to dominate for about 30 mins but fail to score more than one goal and then gradually lose our grip on the game.

socrates wrote:

Lately we seem able to dominate for about 30 mins but fail to score more than one goal and then gradually lose our grip on the game.

Pretty accurate description of my sex life there Soc.

Many more positives than negatives this season. Played *%^@, didn't win, ref was a turd, bogey ground. Ain't no need to go deep on this one. Everyone has a dodgy old weekend every now and then.

I recently asked the question what our priority position should be in january and got a variety of answers on the forum.

My initial thought has always been a Partey back up, but I'm more coming round to the idea of another striker should be the priority.

Apart from Martinelli at a push none of our wingers or creative mids can play as a striker, and Martinelli is a very similar striker to Jesus and Nketiah so not exactly a plan B. Whereas our style of strikers mean they can be used as wingers in an emergency.

I don't think there was an issue with fatigue yesterday. I think it was a few of the players having a poor second half. Partey was very sloppy and didn't get a grip on midfield after the equaliser. Jesus was obviously being fouled a lot but he also wasn't up to his usual standards when he got some space.

The substitutions didn't work either, apart from Tierney. I would have preferred Eddie to come on for Jesus, but maybe Martinelli wasn't 100%. The Ødegaard substition weakened us. I know he wasn't on the ball as much as you'd like but he was the most likely to create a chance. Vieira was absolutely terrible and if we have more of this "let it flow" refereeing, he will really struggle in the PL.

Still top of the league though

One of Arsenal’s many strengths in this outstanding season so far is that their team has been settled. The players are familiar with the system, and indeed with each other. Over time, though, the lack of changes to the side means that a small number of players are shouldering an increasingly heavy physical burden.

Eight players have started all 11 of Arsenal’s Premier League games so far this season, including the front three of Bukayo Saka, Gabriel Jesus and Gabriel Martinelli. This is of course a reflection of their excellence, and their importance to the team, but with every game it will become more difficult for them to reach their peak physical levels

Rich wrote:

Winger, winger, winger

Nketiah playing there isn’t a solution and at least we have gabby up front. Our left flank didn’t click at all yesterday in the 2nd half.

Would anyone take Mount over Ødegaard? Rashford/Anthony/Sterling/Kulusevski/Richarlison/Pulisic over Saka and Martinelli? I wouldn't have any of them

Author:	david.d [ Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:28 pm ]
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Soo frustrating. We should have blown them away on the first half. Jesus puts that chance away or we capitalise on our domination and get the second and it's game over. In fact Jesus had a couple of good chances today and on another day its game over. The %^@** ref was atrocious. How many times did he give leeway for their %^@** defender to pull Jesus to the ground. Not one %^@** foul. Just ridiculous then books saka for simulation. How was that simulation??? Actual total *%^@ of a ref. We only had ourselves to blame in the second half. Totally lethargic and jaded. Bit worrying that 2 weekends in a row we have look so jaded. Need to bounce back against forest. Still in a good place.

Author:	david.d [ Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:29 pm ]
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Spurs 2 0.down Fantastic!!! Newcastle look very good though. They look a threat. Eddie howe doing a very good job.

Author:	socrates [ Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:32 pm ]
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Hazuki wrote: socrates wrote: We just do not have the squad to mount any sort of serious challenge and I will be amazed if we are within 6 points of City by the end of January. Infact, I will go further and say that I would be very surprised if we are still 2nd by then. We have looked jaded in the last few games and ridden our luck and today it ran out. Feel this is very harsh, Soc. What team is looking better poised to be 2nd behind City than us? Just a feeling Haz. Perhaps based on too many Arsenal collapses over the years. It feels like we are close to losing a few now, unable to keep going for the full 90 mins and relying a bit too much on opposing teams not taking advantage.

Author:	Lincoln gooner [ Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:35 pm ]
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socrates wrote: bromley gooner wrote: I'd say Newcastle are well in the running to mount a top 4 challenge. Hi brom, Especially if they make a couple of astute signings in Jan. Hi Soc. Fully expect them to do just that.

Author:	Hazuki [ Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:45 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote: socrates wrote: Hi brom, Especially if they make a couple of astute signings in Jan. Hi Soc. Fully expect them to do just that. They are a very good team under Howe, but there's a pretty significant gap in individual quality compared to the big 6. I doubt they'll be able to bridge that gap in January to sustain a top 4 challenge over 38 games, but they definitely look to be on their way up.

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Author:	warrior [ Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:53 pm ]
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Kane just scored - 2 - 1 now A draw would work too.

Author:	long time gooner [ Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:24 pm ]
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warrior wrote: Kane just scored - 2 - 1 now A draw would work too. Or a defeat. Totts will not be happy now.

Author:	Rich [ Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:25 pm ]
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Newcastle are a serious team this year. Definite chance of top 4. Their squad is thin behind the first 11 though. Shades of us last seaso no with no European distraction. Glad spurs lost, they’d have been just 2 points behind us if they’d won and that would have just felt utterly ridiculous considering how both teams have been this season.

Author:	Rich [ Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:06 pm ]
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https://twitter.com/iokmm/status/158425 ... J6DLL07xRw The state of this ‘advantage’ from the ref. Unbelievable.

Author:	Rich [ Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:16 pm ]
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On Newcastle again, they’ve only lost one game and that was unlucky in the last minute at Anfield. They’ve played Liverpool, spurs and Man U away and drew with City at home. They slipped up with a couple of poor draws at home to weaker sides but they’re a decent team and as long as their best 13-14 players stay fit they will be a top 4 threat

Author:	Gaz from Oz [ Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:19 pm ]
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socrates wrote: Hazuki wrote: Feel this is very harsh, Soc. What team is looking better poised to be 2nd behind City than us? Just a feeling Haz. Perhaps based on too many Arsenal collapses over the years. It feels like we are close to losing a few now, unable to keep going for the full 90 mins and relying a bit too much on opposing teams not taking advantage. Arteta is overplaying a number of our players. Saka looks tired as do others and there has been a drop off recently across the team. There is the added worry of teams now knowing our style of play and adjusting accordingly. This has been obvious against Leeds and Southampton. I will be happy with top 4 this year. It is the minimum. 27 games to go @ 2 points per game will give us 82 points.

Author:	TOP GUN [ Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:47 pm ]
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Yeah he’s had enough https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63368417

Author:	Rich [ Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:48 pm ]
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This second half fatigue shown v Leeds and Southampton is a bit of a worry. I haven’t looked at all the line ups from every team but I really doubt that the other big 6 team with European games have had more rotation than us in general for their best 11’s….and whilst of course we sit top of the league I haven’t seen such a clear drop off in the second half of their games in terms of the fitness and fatigue levels.

Author:	gooner7 [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:18 am ]
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City is big winner this weekend. All others dropped points.

Author:	Rich [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:15 pm ]
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Jesus (penalty incident) “I spoke with him (referee) straight afterwards and he said ‘If you go down before maybe I can give a penalty’. But I think I was fair, I tried to hold and keep standing and tried to finish the action but in the end he grabbed me and it was impossible” If that is a true account of the conversation between the ref and Jesus then it just shows what a mess the PGMOL is in if this is the standard of refereeing we have to put up with. Former Premier League referee Keith Hackett: “That’s a penalty kick for me. That photograph says it all. You cannot, as a defender, grab your arms around like that. Then we say, why has that not been penalised? Come on referees, this is grappling.” EDIT - another ex ref speaks Former referee Mark Halsey: “Arsenal should have been awarded a first-half penalty when Jesus was hauled down by Southampton’s Caleta-Car. Caleta-Car wasn’t goal-side and tried to make life difficult for Jesus but he committed himself to a clear holding offence.”

Author:	Rich [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:43 am ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote: Arteta is overplaying a number of our players. Saka looks tired as do others and there has been a drop off recently across the team. I agree the players looked tired but what else should Arteta have done? In the last two European games he played strong sides and we won both games 1-0, perhaps if he’d gone weaker -and weaker meant playing kids - we would have drawn or lost those games, which would mean we have to go strong for the final europa group games or face finishing 2nd in the group and getting another 2 games added to the schedule. Losing Elneny, Emile Smith Rowe and Zinchenko has not allowed some key rotation where needed.

Author:	Rich [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:55 am ]
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It’s funny how when spurs were playing badly and picking up undeserved or lucky wins there were large sections of the media saying ‘just wait until spurs actually hit top gear’ rather than saying ‘they’ll drop points if they keep performing like this’

Author:	Rich [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:01 am ]
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With any game with controversial ref calls I can guarantee you’ll hear pundits and ex refs justify each decision. But equally if the decision had gone the other way they’d be justifying that as well. Dermot Gallagher is the worst at this. Jesus penalty claim will be, “not all contact is a foul” to “his arms are round him, he’s wrong side and he’s giving the ref a decision to make” I don’t think that penalty gets over turned on VAR if it was given. What makes it more galling is you go back to the penalty Luiz gave away v Wolves where a stud brushes the knee of Luiz not even trying to make a tackle = penalty but what the Saints player did to Jesus yesterday isn’t?

Author:	Gaz from Oz [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:27 am ]
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Rich wrote: Gaz from Oz wrote: Arteta is overplaying a number of our players. Saka looks tired as do others and there has been a drop off recently across the team. I agree the players looked tired but what else should Arteta have done? In the last two European games he played strong sides and we won both games 1-0, perhaps if he’d gone weaker -and weaker meant playing kids - we would have drawn or lost those games, which would mean we have to go strong for the final europa group games or face finishing 2nd in the group and getting another 2 games added to the schedule. Losing Elneny, Emile Smith Rowe and Zinchenko has not allowed some key rotation where needed. Somewhere you have to put trust in players from the second eleven and then you need to get them to perform. That’s what being a good man manager is. The alternative he has/ had is to take the risk and hope the damage is not that bad. The downside isn’t that bad. Finish second in the group. Yes I know it will be a harder draw in the next round but injuries to 2-3 key players because of being overplayed would be long term a disaster. He keeps going like he is and we could fall in a heap and end up destroying the season.

Author:	TOP GUN [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:00 am ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote: Rich wrote: I agree the players looked tired but what else should Arteta have done? In the last two European games he played strong sides and we won both games 1-0, perhaps if he’d gone weaker -and weaker meant playing kids - we would have drawn or lost those games, which would mean we have to go strong for the final europa group games or face finishing 2nd in the group and getting another 2 games added to the schedule. Losing Elneny, Emile Smith Rowe and Zinchenko has not allowed some key rotation where needed. Somewhere you have to put trust in players from the second eleven and then you need to get them to perform. That’s what being a good man manager is. The alternative he has/ had is to take the risk and hope the damage is not that bad. The downside isn’t that bad. Finish second in the group. Yes I know it will be a harder draw in the next round but injuries to 2-3 key players because of being overplayed would be long term a disaster. He keeps going like he is and we could fall in a heap and end up destroying the season. I think any manager would need to work on the assumption they needed to keep the winning run going. We’ve all but qualified now so I’d hope he rests players but defeats affect confidence and that needed to be considered. The main problem yesterday was we didn’t out our chances away and the ref was an absolute *%^@

Author:	TOP GUN [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:06 am ]
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That said I’m not sure I agree with Arteta entirely when he says top players need to play every 3 days. Fatigue will affect things. The main difference pep has is that it’s a whole lot easier to give minutes to your squad when you have a bench like this Saturday 5Stones 6Aké 8Gündogan 18Ortega 19Álvarez 21Gómez 47Foden Just night and day compared to where we are. Apart from Tierney I don’t think anyone outside the first team has a genuine grudge that they should be playing. Lokonga & Nketiah don’t offer much except fresh legs

Author:	socrates [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:22 am ]
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A few thoughts on where we are; Firstly, we've had an amazing start to the season, far better than anyone could have realistically hoped for. However, a few cracks are now appearing. Lately we seem able to dominate for about 30 mins but fail to score more than one goal and then gradually lose our grip on the game to the extent where we end up hanging on in the second half, relying not just on good defending but alarmingly on increasing amounts of good fortune and profligacy in front of goal from our opponents. The latter two cannot be relied upon indefinitely. Yesterday we should have been three up inside half an hour but failed to turn our domination into goals (not helped by some diabolical refereeing). After half an hour Southampton slowly gained a foothold in the game, equalised and ending up looking the more likely to win. We saw this same pattern against Boda and Leeds. It seems like we run out of steam after half an hour. Is that purely fatique from a lack of rotation? If it is I think we are going to have to look at giving some of the back-ups more game time, even if Arteta doesn't fully trust them. Either that or risk complete burn-out. One thing is becoming increasingly clear, Jesus is a fantastic player but he's not that clinical in front of goal. Quite often he either scuffs of misconnects with his shots. If he is more of a 15 goals a season striker rather than the 20+ one we hoped he might be then we do need more goals from other areas.

Author:	Gaz from Oz [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:26 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote: Gaz from Oz wrote: Somewhere you have to put trust in players from the second eleven and then you need to get them to perform. That’s what being a good man manager is. The alternative he has/ had is to take the risk and hope the damage is not that bad. The downside isn’t that bad. Finish second in the group. Yes I know it will be a harder draw in the next round but injuries to 2-3 key players because of being overplayed would be long term a disaster. He keeps going like he is and we could fall in a heap and end up destroying the season. I think any manager would need to work on the assumption they needed to keep the winning run going. We’ve all but qualified now so I’d hope he rests players but defeats affect confidence and that needed to be considered. The main problem yesterday was we didn’t out our chances away and the ref was an absolute *%^@ Yes, I don’t like complaining about refs but when you see some performances like yesterday and you ask what were they seeing. Trust no one.

Author:	TOP GUN [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:33 am ]
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socrates wrote: One thing is becoming increasingly clear, Jesus is a fantastic player but he's not that clinical in front of goal. Quite often he either scuffs of misconnects with his shots. If he is more of a 15 goals a season striker rather than the 20+ one we hoped he might be then we do need more goals from other areas. He’s something of an enigma. Earlier this season I said our fans need to understand sometimes it won’t always work out for him. He’s something of a wildcard thats very hard to predict and He likes to drop deep and dribble. He’s not a striker like Haaland who is leading the line and ensures he’s always in the box. I could certainly see him scoring 25 goals in a season but I could also see him having season where he played well but scored 12-15. I think we need a plan b really and a new striker who can offer something different if it’s not working out for gabby. Maybe height or an option in the box. Yesterday was ridiculous. Ref allowed saints to pull him about and foul him. Just wasn’t his day

Author:	Rich [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:35 am ]
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On Rotation, I had a look how many games City players have played this season, actually looked at minutes played as it is hard to find, or long to work out starts/sub appearances. This is out of a maximum 1440 minutes for them (as they had the community shield - a glorified friendly) Ederson 1440 Cancelo 1336 Haaland 1219 Rodri 1203 De Bruyne 1185 Dias 1180 Silva 1090 Foden 927 Gundogan 907 Arsenal out of a maximum 1350 minutes Gabriel 1260 Xhaka 1258 Saka 1168 Martinelli 1136 Saliba 1080 Jesus 1076 White 991 Ramsdale 990 Ødegaard 962 Partey 720 So the minutes are being managed no different to Man City, the main difference I can see is in the wide areas where the likes of Foden, Grealish, Mahrez are having their minutes managed more than we can do with Saka and Martinelli - but that's what Emile Smith Rowe injury has done for us. I think we over estimate how much our other top 6 rivals are rotating

Author:	Rich [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:45 am ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote: Rich wrote: I agree the players looked tired but what else should Arteta have done? In the last two European games he played strong sides and we won both games 1-0, perhaps if he’d gone weaker -and weaker meant playing kids - we would have drawn or lost those games, which would mean we have to go strong for the final europa group games or face finishing 2nd in the group and getting another 2 games added to the schedule. Losing Elneny, Emile Smith Rowe and Zinchenko has not allowed some key rotation where needed. Somewhere you have to put trust in players from the second eleven and then you need to get them to perform. That’s what being a good man manager is. The alternative he has/ had is to take the risk and hope the damage is not that bad. The downside isn’t that bad. Finish second in the group. Yes I know it will be a harder draw in the next round but injuries to 2-3 key players because of being overplayed would be long term a disaster. He keeps going like he is and we could fall in a heap and end up destroying the season. Not only is it a harder draw in the next round of the Europa it is 2 more games as the winners of the groups get a bye through that round. So by playing strong teams, and if we get at least a draw away to PSV) we've effectively knocked 3 games off our schedule, the 2 KO games plus the final group game being irrelevant. The current front 6 first choice is Partey, Xhaka, Ødegaard, Saka, Martinelli, Jesus The back up to those 6 currently would be Lokonga, Smith, Vieira, Nelson, Marquinos, Nketiah I think Arteta has played Lokonga, Vieira and Nketiah in every Europa league game. I can be pretty certain that if he'd played the other 3 as well we wouldn't be top of the group. Yes the extra energy might have helped us get 2 more points v Southampton but for me he's managed the squad he has exactly the right way so far. We had to win those Europa games. Add Zinchenko, Emile Smith Rowe and Elneny and the likes of Xhaka, Saka, martinelli wouldnt have played anywhere near the minutes they have had to

Author:	warrior [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:58 am ]
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socrates wrote: Lately we seem able to dominate for about 30 mins but fail to score more than one goal and then gradually lose our grip on the game. Pretty accurate description of my sex life there Soc.

Author:	socrates [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:02 am ]
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warrior wrote: socrates wrote: Lately we seem able to dominate for about 30 mins but fail to score more than one goal and then gradually lose our grip on the game. Pretty accurate description of my sex life there Soc. Surely replace the 30 mins with 30 seconds though Warrior?

Author:	dec [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:06 am ]
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I don't think there was an issue with fatigue yesterday. I think it was a few of the players having a poor second half. Partey was very sloppy and didn't get a grip on midfield after the equaliser. Jesus was obviously being fouled a lot but he also wasn't up to his usual standards when he got some space. The substitutions didn't work either, apart from Tierney. I would have preferred Eddie to come on for Jesus, but maybe Martinelli wasn't 100%. The Ødegaard substition weakened us. I know he wasn't on the ball as much as you'd like but he was the most likely to create a chance. Vieira was absolutely terrible and if we have more of this "let it flow" refereeing, he will really struggle in the PL. Still top of the league though

Author:	Pompey Gooner [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:43 am ]
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I think we played %^@ and didn't win. In my 40+ years of watching The Arse this has happened fairly regularly. The ref was absolutely diabolical too which didn't help. In my 40+ years of watching The Arse this has happened fairly regularly. We have dropped points in 2 away games at Utd and Scummers, sorry, Saints (Pompey thing coming through there). In my 40+ years of watching The Arse this has happened fairly regularly. We're top of the league with 9 wins from 11 and 1 defeat. In my 40+ years of watching The Arse this has almost never happened. Many more positives than negatives this season. Played %^@, didn't win, ref was a turd, bogey ground. Ain't no need to go deep on this one. Everyone has a dodgy old weekend every now and then. I love this team.

Author:	Hazuki [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:55 am ]
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Pompey Gooner wrote: Many more positives than negatives this season. Played *%^@, didn't win, ref was a turd, bogey ground. Ain't no need to go deep on this one. Everyone has a dodgy old weekend every now and then. This is true, and I think with the way we've been playing there's always a risk of over analyzing poor performances. We've played 15 games so far this season, and this was the first time we dropped points in one we weren't "supposed" to. That's a pretty great record by any standard.

Author:	Rich [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:24 am ]
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I recently asked the question what our priority position should be in january and got a variety of answers on the forum. My initial thought has always been a Partey back up, but I'm more coming round to the idea of another striker should be the priority. Apart from Martinelli at a push none of our wingers or creative mids can play as a striker, and Martinelli is a very similar striker to Jesus and Nketiah so not exactly a plan B. Whereas our style of strikers mean they can be used as wingers in an emergency.

Author:	TOP GUN [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:39 am ]
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Rich wrote: I recently asked the question what our priority position should be in january and got a variety of answers on the forum. My initial thought has always been a Partey back up, but I'm more coming round to the idea of another striker should be the priority. Apart from Martinelli at a push none of our wingers or creative mids can play as a striker, and Martinelli is a very similar striker to Jesus and Nketiah so not exactly a plan B. Whereas our style of strikers mean they can be used as wingers in an emergency. Winger, winger, winger Nketiah playing there isn’t a solution and at least we have gabby up front. Our left flank didn’t click at all yesterday in the 2nd half.

Author:	david.d [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:19 am ]
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I get that Tomiyasu playing at left back against liverpool was tactical for Salah. But i wonder how Tierney feels being now third choice left back against leeds and yesterday. He comes across as a great character but how long before he starts considering his future. I love Tomiyasu. Quality signing but i think Tierney should be playing when Zinchenko is not available. He gives us more in an attacking sense. And it cant be because Tierney played against PSV because Tomiyasu played against PSV too.

Author:	Gunfire [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:44 am ]
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dec wrote: I don't think there was an issue with fatigue yesterday. I think it was a few of the players having a poor second half. Partey was very sloppy and didn't get a grip on midfield after the equaliser. Jesus was obviously being fouled a lot but he also wasn't up to his usual standards when he got some space. The substitutions didn't work either, apart from Tierney. I would have preferred Eddie to come on for Jesus, but maybe Martinelli wasn't 100%. The Ødegaard substition weakened us. I know he wasn't on the ball as much as you'd like but he was the most likely to create a chance. Vieira was absolutely terrible and if we have more of this "let it flow" refereeing, he will really struggle in the PL. Still top of the league though https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... nals-tank/ Quote: One of Arsenal’s many strengths in this outstanding season so far is that their team has been settled. The players are familiar with the system, and indeed with each other. Over time, though, the lack of changes to the side means that a small number of players are shouldering an increasingly heavy physical burden. Eight players have started all 11 of Arsenal’s Premier League games so far this season, including the front three of Bukayo Saka, Gabriel Jesus and Gabriel Martinelli. This is of course a reflection of their excellence, and their importance to the team, but with every game it will become more difficult for them to reach their peak physical levels Only Brighton have made fewer changes to the starting 11 than us. Fatigue is going to become an issue if it is not now. If we can get to the WC break still top that's a good day at the office for this team. The soomer Emile Smith Rowe, Zinchenko and Elneny are back the better.