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Author:  Bernard [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:22 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Bernard wrote:
Cancelling matches I have no problem with. What I am against is stopping fans who want to attend games that are played, especially as it won’t stop the spread of the virus.

Well that’s just nonsense because it’s a policy to cancel or have closed doors. Not somewhere in between as thousands would still turn up out of personal choice.

As Le Bron said if it’s not safe for the fans then what about the players too. What about the rights of the workers at the ground.

If it’s one or the other I have no problem with cancelling games. My problem is solely with stopping fans who want to attend matches that aren’t cancelled. Staff should have the freedom to work at the games or not. They shouldn’t be made to work.

Author:  long time gooner [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:02 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Well that’s just nonsense because it’s a policy to cancel or have closed doors. Not somewhere in between as thousands would still turn up out of personal choice.

As Le Bron said if it’s not safe for the fans then what about the players too. What about the rights of the workers at the ground.

If it’s one or the other I have no problem with cancelling games. My problem is solely with stopping fans who want to attend matches that aren’t cancelled. Staff should have the freedom to work at the games or not. They shouldn’t be made to work.

Well it’s already happening in Italy and France. Likely to be here pdq I would expect.

Author:  Zed [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:03 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
Zed has proved over many years to be one of the forum’s best (if rarer than ideal), most rational and intelligent posters. Try reading the post number 518810.

Awe thanks Bernard. I do what I can.

Author:  Zed [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:05 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
Thanks for that Bored - plenty of food for thought there. I think we're in for some disruption to everyday life, and missing or cancelling a few football matches is pretty insignificant.

Cancelling matches I have no problem with. What I am against is stopping fans who want to attend games that are played, especially as it won’t stop the spread of the virus.

This whole thing is now starting to have a domino effect. Tip of the iceberg.

Author:  Zed [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Supporters Forum

Recently on here there was a certain person that indicated that they were glad
Burnley were one nil down to Spurs at the half. It was the opposite until Spurs got level with a penalty second half.
Hmmm maybe AG. :26surprise:

Author:  Bernard [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:53 pm ]
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Zed wrote:
Recently on here there was a certain person that indicated that they were glad
Burnley were one nil down to Spurs at the half. It was the opposite until Spurs got level with a penalty second half.
Hmmm maybe AG. :26surprise:

You’ll get yourself blocked at this rate. Welcome to the club.

Author:  kiwipete [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:57 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Just watched that in its entirety. Extremely scary. Easy to see why there is a trend towards reducing human contact right now.


Great ...... Mrs Kiwi's birthday coming up this Friday , she's booked a motel for three days at a nice little seaside berg ... first outing in about ten years

...she's going to be devastated when I tell her I'm don't want any contact .

Author:  Rich [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Supporters Forum

The last 6 times we’ve visited City the aggregate score is 17-2! City's opening goals in these 6 games have come in the 19th, 18th, 15th, 14th, first and second minutes.

There are only 2 games a season where I fully expect to lose, Anfield and The Etihad. That’s before a ball is kicked and irrespective of form. There are other games in the season where I get a bad feeling or wouldn’t be surprised at a defeat but these two away trips we never even seem to put up a fight. Time for that to change

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:04 pm ]
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kiwipete wrote:
long time gooner wrote:
Just watched that in its entirety. Extremely scary. Easy to see why there is a trend towards reducing human contact right now.


Great ...... Mrs Kiwi's birthday coming up this Friday , she's booked a motel for three days at a nice little seaside berg ... first outing in about ten years

...she's going to be devastated when I tell her I'm don't want any contact .

Did she actually tell you she was taking you or did you just make that assumption. You might be destroying her plans.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:18 pm ]
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Italy now makes a decision to impose a complete lock down. A complete over reaction for all concerned clearly!

Author:  Wilts-Gooner [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:39 pm ]
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This was always going to happen with modern travel habits (and an ever exploding human population), amidst all the benefits this has brought us we never stopped to think about the fact we are defying millions of years of evolution where we lived in small groups for the most part.

Our arrogance as a species is what will kill us - through virus, climate change or war.

Happy days!.

:icon_mrgreen:

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:40 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Italy now makes a decision to impose a complete lock down. A complete over reaction for all concerned clearly!

Cancelling St Pats Day marches in Ireland.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:42 pm ]
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Wilts-Gooner wrote:
This was always going to happen with modern travel habits (and an ever exploding human population), amidst all the benefits this has brought us we never stopped to think about the fact we are defying millions of years of evolution where we lived in small groups for the most part.

Our arrogance as a species is what will kill us - through virus, climate change or war.

Happy days!.

:icon_mrgreen:

The other thing that can do you in is performances like Olympiocos.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:43 pm ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Italy now makes a decision to impose a complete lock down. A complete over reaction for all concerned clearly!

Cancelling St Pats Day marches in Ireland.

You know it’s got serious then if they have done that !

Author:  Ash [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:18 pm ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
Wilts-Gooner wrote:
This was always going to happen with modern travel habits (and an ever exploding human population), amidst all the benefits this has brought us we never stopped to think about the fact we are defying millions of years of evolution where we lived in small groups for the most part.

Our arrogance as a species is what will kill us - through virus, climate change or war.

Happy days!.

:icon_mrgreen:

The other thing that can do you in is performances like Olympiocos.


Watches the entirety of extra time against Olympiacos:

Image

Author:  DHD [ Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:24 pm ]
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Well I have taken the difficult decision to self isolate for the next two weeks in COVID19-free Barbados. I don’t want thanks. Or sympathy. Really.

Author:  kiwipete [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Supporters Forum

Zed wrote:
Bernard wrote:
Zed has proved over many years to be one of the forum’s best (if rarer than ideal), most rational and intelligent posters. Try reading the post number 518810.

Awe thanks Bernard. I do what I can.

:laughing7: of course Zed you do realise Bernard bestowed upon you this mantle of greatness ; as part of the plan to ward off attacks from the evil duo of Socrates / Top Gun and also the odd broadside from Dec .

Author:  kiwipete [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:57 am ]
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DHD wrote:
Well I have taken the difficult decision to self isolate for the next two weeks in COVID19-free Barbados. I don’t want thanks. Or sympathy. Really.

and arrive back with nothing worse than liver failure , syphilis and chikungunya virus .... wise choice

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:08 am ]
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Zed wrote:
Recently on here there was a certain person that indicated that they were glad
Burnley were one nil down to Spurs at the half. It was the opposite until Spurs got level with a penalty second half.
Hmmm maybe AG. :26surprise:


No. Perish the thought! lol I am always hoping the scum lose unless it helps us for them to win or draw.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:34 am ]
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kiwipete wrote:
DHD wrote:
Well I have taken the difficult decision to self isolate for the next two weeks in COVID19-free Barbados. I don’t want thanks. Or sympathy. Really.

and arrive back with nothing worse than liver failure , syphilis and chikungunya virus .... wise choice

There speaks the voice of experience

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:05 am ]
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People need to stop saying it’s just the flu

https://twitter.com/labisbeticah/status ... 30273?s=21

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:11 am ]
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kiwipete wrote:
Zed wrote:
Awe thanks Bernard. I do what I can.

:laughing7: of course Zed you do realise Bernard bestowed upon you this mantle of greatness ; as part of the plan to ward off attacks from the evil duo of Socrates / Top Gun and also the odd broadside from Dec .

Evil duo :42laughter: ?

We aren’t the one advocating enabling mass death to pursue a leisure activity

Author:  Decaf [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:18 am ]
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kiwipete wrote:
DHD wrote:
Well I have taken the difficult decision to self isolate for the next two weeks in COVID19-free Barbados. I don’t want thanks. Or sympathy. Really.

and arrive back with nothing worse than liver failure , syphilis and chikungunya virus .... wise choice

At least he'll have fun getting the first two. Beats being sneezed on by someone in the toilet paper queue!

Author:  socrates [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:05 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Gaz from Oz wrote:
Cancelling St Pats Day marches in Ireland.

You know it’s got serious then if they have done that !


Not sure why we aren't cancelling crowd gatherings of 1,000 people or more as they are doing in other countries. Wouldn't it be better to be ahead of the curve instead of falling behind it?.

Our NHS, particularly A&E, was overstretched and couldn't cope before the outbreak so how are they supposed to cope if thousands start to need hopsital treatment.

Author:  socrates [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Supporters Forum

Rich wrote:
The last 6 times we’ve visited City the aggregate score is 17-2! City's opening goals in these 6 games have come in the 19th, 18th, 15th, 14th, first and second minutes.

There are only 2 games a season where I fully expect to lose, Anfield and The Etihad. That’s before a ball is kicked and irrespective of form. There are other games in the season where I get a bad feeling or wouldn’t be surprised at a defeat but these two away trips we never even seem to put up a fight. Time for that to change


Hi Rich,

I'm not even counting this as a game in hand. I don't think we are good enough to get anything, our midfield is weak and will get overrun and our defence is simply not built to cope against really good teams.

The only way I see us getting something is if we score a couple of worldies and City have a really off day. Otherwise I see us with little possession and chasing shadows for most of the game. Damage limitation really.

Author:  Rich [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:36 am ]
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socrates wrote:
Rich wrote:
The last 6 times we’ve visited City the aggregate score is 17-2! City's opening goals in these 6 games have come in the 19th, 18th, 15th, 14th, first and second minutes.

There are only 2 games a season where I fully expect to lose, Anfield and The Etihad. That’s before a ball is kicked and irrespective of form. There are other games in the season where I get a bad feeling or wouldn’t be surprised at a defeat but these two away trips we never even seem to put up a fight. Time for that to change


Hi Rich,

I'm not even counting this as a game in hand. I don't think we are good enough to get anything, our midfield is weak and will get overrun and our defence is simply not built to cope against really good teams.

The only way I see us getting something is if we score a couple of worldies and City have a really off day. Otherwise I see us with little possession and chasing shadows for most of the game. Damage limitation really.

Sadly I agree. It annoys me that so many teams have got wins away to big 6 sides but we haven’t had one for about 4/5 years. I think those big 6 sides are definitely more concentrated against us but I also think there is a mental block for us.
I don’t think we can concentrate for 90 minutes to execute to all our defence. But as long as we go there with the right mindset we do have players who can hurt their defence on the counter and in 1v1 situations

Author:  Zed [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Supporters Forum

kiwipete wrote:
Zed wrote:
Awe thanks Bernard. I do what I can.

:laughing7: of course Zed you do realise Bernard bestowed upon you this mantle of greatness ; as part of the plan to ward off attacks from the evil duo of Socrates / Top Gun and also the odd broadside from Dec .

:angel8:

Author:  Zed [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:38 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
Zed wrote:
Recently on here there was a certain person that indicated that they were glad
Burnley were one nil down to Spurs at the half. It was the opposite until Spurs got level with a penalty second half.
Hmmm maybe AG. :26surprise:

You’ll get yourself blocked at this rate. Welcome to the club.

Well ..no he didn't. Gave me a decent reply.

Author:  Rich [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:25 pm ]
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This summer we really need to find a way to shift on some high earners. Özil (£350k), Mkhitaryan (£200k), Lacazette (£180k), Xhaka (£100k) Sokratis (£90k) Elneny (£70k) is £52m off the season wage bill!
I see prices of £40m for 16 year old Bellingham from B'ham, £70m for Grealish and Maddison. I just don't think we can be shopping in that market at all. Pépé may turn out to be brilliant but £70m for us is a huge risk. We need to move back in to the £20-£30m market and realise our current standing which means selling well and possibly our better players and buying smartly on potential with resale value.

I'm not certain we can afford Aubamayang's new contract but I also can't see how we do anything without him. Not a nice choice for Arsenal to have to make. At least in comparison to the £350k/week Arsenal gave Özil, Aubamayang is still operating as the best striker in the league and would be worth the deal, I'm just not sure a team (possibly) without European football and with the need to tighten the finances can afford him.

Aubamayang deal, 3 years at £300k per week = £47m, plus lets call it zero resale, but 3 more years of the league's top striker.
vs
Sell Aubamayang now for £70m, shift the £200k per week (£10m) of his last year.

So crudely this is a swing of £127m decision for Arsenal to make on 1 player (granted that any replacement has a fee and wages)

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:42 pm ]
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We won’t sell Aubamayang and not sign a replacement.

No way considering what he brings the team, who would come in I don’t know though

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:50 pm ]
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If we sell Aubameyang it shoukd be to finance a great defense. I'd like that money earmarked only for either a central defender or defensive center midfielder.

Author:  Gunfire [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:22 pm ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
If we sell Aubameyang it shoukd be to finance a great defense. I'd like that money earmarked only for either a central defender or defensive center midfielder.

Saliva to come in, Mari signed. That's our lot.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:24 pm ]
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Spurs 2 down in 20 minutes. No trophy for Maureen.
:58big-emoticons:

Author:  Ash [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:35 pm ]
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Gunfire wrote:
Saliva to come in...


Is this a reference to the fact this team needs the kiss of life? Fair assessment :laughing7:

Author:  Ash [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:37 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
Spurs 2 down in 20 minutes. No trophy for Maureen.
:58big-emoticons:


Leipzig look lethal at home. Lloris doing a passable impression of an over the hill once great GK has helped.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:43 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
Spurs 2 down in 20 minutes. No trophy for Maureen.
:58big-emoticons:


Leipzig look lethal at home. Lloris doing a passable impression of an over the hill once great GK has helped.

Yes, didn't exactly distinguish himself with either goal.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:49 pm ]
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Spurs are lucky Mourinho was able to prioritise the Leipzig game otherwise they might have got a flogging. May he stay with them 3 years. Should totally wreck them in that time. Yesterday’s man.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:09 pm ]
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Happened to catch a few Atlanta games this season. I think we should pencil the manager in as a potential future manager at our club. I like their style of play and organisation

Author:  Bernard [ Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:11 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
We won’t sell Aubamayang and not sign a replacement.

No way considering what he brings the team, who would come in I don’t know though

Anything negative with regards departing players not being replaced is possible under the Kroenke ownership regime.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:23 am ]
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I think Spurs should change their theme tune to yesterday. A yesterdays man manager and a yesterday team past their best.

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