Klopp signs new Liverpool contract until 2026
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I'm surprised they've extended his contract given how poorly his team is going.
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| Author: | Decaf [ Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:58 pm ] |
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Bernard wrote: Darren wrote: True to an extent. The difference being we're currently a level below City, so Jesus for Arsenal could be a good deal for both parties. We need better players than we currently have but we're not able to compete with the level of players City and Liverpool can sign. Financially we're not that far off from Liverpool, but their current status makes them a far more attractive proposition than we are. We can't really turn our noses up at players like Gabriel Jesus, whilst we're currently *blessed* with Alexandre Lacazette. But Darren, if it is our intention to challenge City and Liverpool in the near to medium term (and I think it should be), is signing someone who City don’t want to keep the way to do it? I agree Jesus is better than Lacazette. But it’s pretty easy to find people who are. Realistically, we are going to be signing someone City doesn't like, unless we get someone like Haaland. And, frankly, that level of player isn't going to be coming our way until we have shown we are somewhat more than the 5th or 6th best team in England. I doubt we will be challenging City for the league next season. If Liverpool and City have terrible seasons, we need to be in a position to take advantage. Similarly, if we do get in the CL, we need to good enough to take advantage if fortune favours us. Beyond that seems to be very unlikely. |
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| Author: | warrior [ Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:50 pm ] |
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Klopp signs new Liverpool contract until 2026 https://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/k ... e317e52ad8 I'm surprised they've extended his contract given how poorly his team is going.
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:55 pm ] |
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Gunfire wrote: Bernard wrote: If Jesus was that good City would be keeping him. I always think that argument is flawed when you consider the huge number of players who have been sold by huge clubs and gone on to win trophies elsewhere and sometimes be an even better player once they’d left that huge club. It’s the same kind of flawed argument when clubs sign someone and people say he can’t be that good because no real big clubs were after him. |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:08 pm ] |
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Abramovich now wants another £500m for Chelsea. Barcelona (the club that are massively in debt) are to spend £1.3 billion to revamp their stadium. Back in 1989 Michael Knighton nearly bought Man United for £20m. How things have changed, and certainly not for the better. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:43 pm ] | ||
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Gabriel Jesus stats in the various positions he plays. At CF he scores 1 in 2 and assists 1 in 5. That’s 19 goals and 8 assists over a 38 game season. When he plays wide in a front 3 he scores 1 in 3 and assists about 1 in 3/4. That’s 13 goals and 10-13 assists a season. All of those a decent numbers for a forward player and the fact he still produces in any of the front 3 positions makes him more than useful
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| Author: | Hazuki [ Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:09 pm ] |
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Ronaldo has just scored again, a cracking goal against Chelsea. He's definitely not the player he used to be, and I don't think Man Utd were wise spending all that money on him from the position they're in, but he has a chance to score 20 league goals at age 37. If he did, it would be his 13th season in a row with 20 league goals. A truly remarkable player. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:31 pm ] |
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West Ham have gone full strength tonight apart from Adrian in goal instead of Fabianski - must be their cup GK. Zouma is back, but Dawson is banned for our game so Zouma is their only fit CB |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:32 pm ] |
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Hazuki wrote: Ronaldo has just scored again, a cracking goal against Chelsea. He's definitely not the player he used to be, and I don't think Man Utd were wise spending all that money on him from the position they're in, but he has a chance to score 20 league goals at age 37. If he did, it would be his 13th season in a row with 20 league goals. A truly remarkable player. Quite remarkable. Embarrassing for Man U how many times he's rescued them. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:36 pm ] |
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Man U are now 5 points behind us with only 3 games left for them. We only need 5 more points to be certain of finishing above them. If they'd beaten us at the weekend they'd be above us right now |
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| Author: | Ash [ Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:16 pm ] |
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warrior wrote: Klopp signs new Liverpool contract until 2026 https://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/k ... e317e52ad8 I'm surprised they've extended his contract given how poorly his team is going. He’s just a 5 season wonder. He’s lucky he’s a great motivator, buys well, implements his tactics superbly, gets players to run through walls for him, has the complete adoration of a city behind him, experience and success in multiple leagues, speaks multiple languages, good with media… I mean, if they want to take a punt it’s their dime…. |
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| Author: | gooner7 [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:26 am ] |
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Rich wrote: West Ham have gone full strength tonight apart from Adrian in goal instead of Fabianski - must be their cup GK. Zouma is back, but Dawson is banned for our game so Zouma is their only fit CB And they lost at home. Will they rest some players for our match to win the second leg? Hope they do. |
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| Author: | Gaz from Oz [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:34 am ] |
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gooner7 wrote: Rich wrote: West Ham have gone full strength tonight apart from Adrian in goal instead of Fabianski - must be their cup GK. Zouma is back, but Dawson is banned for our game so Zouma is their only fit CB And they lost at home. Will they rest some players for our match to win the second leg? Hope they do. I still fancy them to get to the final. |
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| Author: | Bernard [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:40 am ] |
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Ash wrote: warrior wrote: Klopp signs new Liverpool contract until 2026 https://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/k ... e317e52ad8 I'm surprised they've extended his contract given how poorly his team is going. He’s just a 5 season wonder. He’s lucky he’s a great motivator, buys well, implements his tactics superbly, gets players to run through walls for him, has the complete adoration of a city behind him, experience and success in multiple leagues, speaks multiple languages, good with media… I mean, if they want to take a punt it’s their dime…. I’m not sure Klopp has the adoration of all the Everton fans in the city of Liverpool, Ash. They’re not as well supported as Liverpool FC, but locally Everton still have lots of supporters. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:37 am ] |
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Not to get too far ahead of ourselves but if we win our next two and spurs drop any points in their next two ( which you’d think is likely against liverpool) then we could seal top 4 with a win at white hart lane! Long way to go and recent results should have us expecting the unexpected but that would be very sweet |
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:02 am ] |
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Klopp signing until 2026 will I presume mean that he’s going to have to build a new team perhaps. The core of his team are 29-30, maybe he’ll do a Fergie and just squeeze every last drop out of those guys until 2026 and leave his successor with a huge rebuild but I don’t think that his Klopp’s style. Liverpool’s group of 25 and under is Konate, Trent, Diaz, Jota - 3 of those are their most recent signings so Klopp clearly is planning for the next wave. However there is a big group all hitting their peak at the same time (right now), salah, firminho, Mané, Henderson, Thiago, Matip, van dijk, Milner will all be over 30 at the end of the season, with Robertson and Fabinho not far behind. I still think this same group could have 2-3 years at the top because many more players nowadays are staying at their physical peak well in to their 30’s. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:11 am ] |
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I’ve seen a lot more certainly on social media football with people waking up to how average McTominey is. It took until the 84th minute for him to make a successful pass in the second half last night. He throws himself in to tackles, scores the odd long range effort or header and gives passionate interviews but Man U fans have a blind spot for academy players. He’s so average |
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:22 am ] |
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I should add I don’t have an irrational hatred of McTominay for no reason, there are plenty of really average players in the Prem, but few gets praised so wildly out of kilter with their ability. It’s the same reason I want Lampard to fail as a manager, he’s so average but the media and pundits will tell you he’s done a great job wherever he’s been. |
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| Author: | Ash [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:12 am ] |
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Bernard wrote: Ash wrote: He’s just a 5 season wonder. He’s lucky he’s a great motivator, buys well, implements his tactics superbly, gets players to run through walls for him, has the complete adoration of a city behind him, experience and success in multiple leagues, speaks multiple languages, good with media… I mean, if they want to take a punt it’s their dime…. I’m not sure Klopp has the adoration of all the Everton fans in the city of Liverpool, Ash. They’re not as well supported as Liverpool FC, but locally Everton still have lots of supporters. Well you make a good point there. How many truly big one club cities are there? Villarreal. Brighton. Newcastle. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:14 am ] |
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I read that Saka has taken the second most shots in the league this season behind Salah (not counting set piece shots) There was a time under early Arteta when we were really struggling with the simple quantity of shots we took in games, the attacking side was t clicking. Now pretty much every metric on the attacking side puts us as a top 4 team the only thing missing is being more clinical with the chances we create. A pair of strikers in the summer will help |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:59 am ] |
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Great chat with Ramsdale about the young stars. https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1080803005836459 |
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| Author: | Bernard [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:59 am ] |
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Ash wrote: Bernard wrote: I’m not sure Klopp has the adoration of all the Everton fans in the city of Liverpool, Ash. They’re not as well supported as Liverpool FC, but locally Everton still have lots of supporters. Well you make a good point there. How many truly big one club cities are there? Villarreal. Brighton. Newcastle. No idea how big Villarreal is, or even if they have another team, but I’d have thought Leeds must be even bigger than Brighton. Plymouth is another big city with only one club. Are Sunderland and Middlesbrough both cities or very big towns? |
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| Author: | grantyboy [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:00 am ] |
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Ash wrote: warrior wrote: Klopp signs new Liverpool contract until 2026 https://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/k ... e317e52ad8 I'm surprised they've extended his contract given how poorly his team is going. He’s just a 5 season wonder. He’s lucky he’s a great motivator, buys well, implements his tactics superbly, gets players to run through walls for him, has the complete adoration of a city behind him, experience and success in multiple leagues, speaks multiple languages, good with media… I mean, if they want to take a punt it’s their dime…. Yeah I’m equally glad we decided to stick with Wenger and let Klopp go and stink out the place out up there. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:00 am ] |
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Rich wrote: Man U are now 5 points behind us with only 3 games left for them. We only need 5 more points to be certain of finishing above them. If they'd beaten us at the weekend they'd be above us right now They are done. Can't really consider them for 4th really. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:05 am ] |
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old man of hoy wrote: Rich wrote: ...Of course I completely agree that Arsenal fans shouldn’t be wetting themselves and fawning over Vieira when we have a very very good manager right now. I will always love Vieira for the player and man he was at Arsenal. Hopefully his time will come as a manager with us - not yet, but one day.If he develops into a good manager, it would be 'storybook' if he not only ended up as our manager but more importantly does well. Still a storybook ending to his Arsenal career. The final and winning kick in that FA cup final. I watch PK shoot out ever once in a while. What gets me a wee bit glassy eyed is knowing its his final game and him pointing to Lehman, calling the lads over and the two of them hugging says it all. Lehmann and a few well placed clearances from the likes of Freddie, etc, saved us that day. Lehmann played out of his skin. Lastly, the ginger haired pr*ck missing his PK was icing on the FA Cup cake. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:21 am ] |
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Bernard wrote: Ash wrote: Well you make a good point there. How many truly big one club cities are there? Villarreal. Brighton. Newcastle. No idea how big Villarreal is, or even if they have another team, but I’d have thought Leeds must be even bigger than Brighton. Plymouth is another big city with only one club. Are Sunderland and Middlesbrough both cities or very big towns? I think Leeds is the 4th biggest British city by population so must be the biggest single team city and probably the 'biggest' club as a single team city - depending on the definition of big club. Southampton, Portsmouth and Leicester are big single club cities as well |
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| Author: | DHD [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:12 am ] |
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Rich wrote: Bernard wrote: No idea how big Villarreal is, or even if they have another team, but I’d have thought Leeds must be even bigger than Brighton. Plymouth is another big city with only one club. Are Sunderland and Middlesbrough both cities or very big towns? I think Leeds is the 4th biggest British city by population so must be the biggest single team city and probably the 'biggest' club as a single team city - depending on the definition of big club. Southampton, Portsmouth and Leicester are big single club cities as well Villareal are a phenomenon. The town has a population of about 50,000 so similar in size to Torquay or Clacton. Everyone works in the porcelain and ceramics factories; it's not a pretty place. That's a club punching way above its weight. |
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| Author: | Bernard [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:21 am ] |
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Rich wrote: Gabriel Jesus stats in the various positions he plays. At CF he scores 1 in 2 and assists 1 in 5. That’s 19 goals and 8 assists over a 38 game season. When he plays wide in a front 3 he scores 1 in 3 and assists about 1 in 3/4. That’s 13 goals and 10-13 assists a season. All of those a decent numbers for a forward player and the fact he still produces in any of the front 3 positions makes him more than useful Decent goal scoring stats presumably helped through playing with De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva and until a couple of years ago, David Silva. You said words to the effect that City getting rid of him doesn’t reflect that much on him. Fair point. But Guardiola appears to be getting rid of him at age 25, just when he’s entering his peak years. It must surely say something about how high a level Guardiola thinks he can reach. How can it not do? We’re being linked with Rashford again. If I had an either or choice, my own vote would go for Rashford. I’m not going to be concerned if we do buy Jesus, unless he is the only forward signing. But as I’ve said before, whenever I see City he does appear the nearest thing they have to a weak link. I fully accept Darren’s point that Jesus would improve the squad as he’s better than Lacazette. But I’d be surprised if there weren’t other options open who would improve the squad even more. Indeed, I’d rather have Martinelli than Jesus. |
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| Author: | Bernard [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:36 am ] |
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Rich wrote: I should add I don’t have an irrational hatred of McTominay for no reason, there are plenty of really average players in the Prem, but few gets praised so wildly out of kilter with their ability. It’s the same reason I want Lampard to fail as a manager, he’s so average but the media and pundits will tell you he’s done a great job wherever he’s been. I must admit I look at it slightly differently to you. I’m delighted McTominay gets in Manchester United’s team. If that happens because he’s overrated, fabulous. Let the overrating continue for as long as possible. Same with Lampard. I wish Chelsea had never sacked him. That so many media pundits seem to think he does a better job than is the case is fine with me. I just wish Abramovich had shared such views. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:18 pm ] |
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Bernard wrote: Rich wrote: I should add I don’t have an irrational hatred of McTominay for no reason, there are plenty of really average players in the Prem, but few gets praised so wildly out of kilter with their ability. It’s the same reason I want Lampard to fail as a manager, he’s so average but the media and pundits will tell you he’s done a great job wherever he’s been. I must admit I look at it slightly differently to you. I’m delighted McTominay gets in Manchester United’s team. If that happens because he’s overrated, fabulous. Let the overrating continue for as long as possible. Same with Lampard. I wish Chelsea had never sacked him. That so many media pundits seem to think he does a better job than is the case is fine with me. I just wish Abramovich had shared such views. Completely agree that I’m happy such average players stay in our rival teams. I don’t think me trying to open peoples eyes to his average-ness will make the powers that be at Man U drop him or sell him. I suppose it depends how much influence you think the media has in player selection. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:23 pm ] |
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Bernard wrote: Rich wrote: Gabriel Jesus stats in the various positions he plays. At CF he scores 1 in 2 and assists 1 in 5. That’s 19 goals and 8 assists over a 38 game season. When he plays wide in a front 3 he scores 1 in 3 and assists about 1 in 3/4. That’s 13 goals and 10-13 assists a season. All of those a decent numbers for a forward player and the fact he still produces in any of the front 3 positions makes him more than useful Decent goal scoring stats presumably helped through playing with De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva and until a couple of years ago, David Silva. Yep. But I’m sure I saw something that showed Ødegaard as the highest chance creator in the league this season (or it may have been in the last 6 months) I’m not saying we’re going to suddenly be prime City but there is a feeling that some natural and clinical strikers could clean up with the young attacking mids we have right now. Incidentally I agree that if Jesus was our only forward signing id be underwhelmed but to bring him and someone like Nunez/Osimhen/Abraham in I think would be very good business and considering our current standing in the game would possibly represent the highest we could achieve in the market of you just judge players ‘on paper’ |
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| Author: | dec [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:15 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: Bernard wrote: Decent goal scoring stats presumably helped through playing with De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva and until a couple of years ago, David Silva. Yep. But I’m sure I saw something that showed Ødegaard as the highest chance creator in the league this season (or it may have been in the last 6 months) I’m not saying we’re going to suddenly be prime City but there is a feeling that some natural and clinical strikers could clean up with the young attacking mids we have right now. Incidentally I agree that if Jesus was our only forward signing id be underwhelmed but to bring him and someone like Nunez/Osimhen/Abraham in I think would be very good business and considering our current standing in the game would possibly represent the highest we could achieve in the market of you just judge players ‘on paper’ With respect Rich, Ødegaard is a good young player but Silva and DeBruyne are at a different level. Added to that, Jesus is by no means a natural or clinical striker. He is really a right winger whose pressing is excellent but finishing is very hit and miss. Signing someone like Abraham is far more important. In fact, if we signed Abraham, Jesus wouldn't make our first choice 11 in my view. |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:18 pm ] |
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A surprise and concerning development re Chelsea. There has been a late bid today by Jim Ratcliffe. If he succeeds then they certainly won’t be short of cash to go forward with. |
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| Author: | warrior [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:19 pm ] |
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A young man married a beautiful woman who had married and divorced 10 other men. On their wedding night she told her new husband “Please be gentle, I’m still a virgin!” ‘How can that be possible if you’ve been married ten times.?’ “Well, husband#1 was a Sales Representative; he just kept telling me how great it was going to be. Husband #2 was in Software Services; he was never really sure how it was supposed to function, but he said he’d look into it and get back to me… Husband #3 was from Field Services; he said that everything checked out diagnostically but he just couldn’t get the system up. Husband #4 was in Telemarketing; even though he knew he had the order, he didn’t know when he would be able to deliver. Husband #5 was an Engineer, he understood the basic process but he wanted three years to research, implement, and design a new state-of-the-art method. Husband #6 was from Administration; he thought he knew how but he wasn’t sure whether it was his job or not. Husband #7 was in Marketing; although he had a product, he was never sure how to position it. Husband #8 was a Psychiatrist; all he did was talk about it. Husband # 9 was a Gynecologist; all he did was look at it… Husband #10 was a Stamp Collector; all he ever did was … God, I miss him. But now that I’ve married you, I’m so excited.” ‘Wonderful’, said the husband, ‘but why? To which she replied… “You’re a Lawyer, This time I KNOW I’m gonna get SCREWED!” |
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| Author: | warrior [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:20 pm ] |
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long time gooner wrote: A surprise and concerning development re Chelsea. There has been a late bid today by Jim Ratcliffe. If he succeeds then they certainly won’t be short of cash to go forward with. Net worth: 16.1 billion USD Pffft - Peasant |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:25 pm ] |
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warrior wrote: long time gooner wrote: A surprise and concerning development re Chelsea. There has been a late bid today by Jim Ratcliffe. If he succeeds then they certainly won’t be short of cash to go forward with. Net worth: 16.1 billion USD Pffft - Peasant 28.2 billion here. 55th richest person in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Ratcliffe |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:37 pm ] |
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long time gooner wrote: warrior wrote: Net worth: 16.1 billion USD Pffft - Peasant 28.2 billion here. 55th richest person in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Ratcliffe Sounds a complete wanker |
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| Author: | david.d [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:52 pm ] |
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I cant *%^@*** believe this late bid. Chelsea are going to emerge from this still smelling of roses. Bloody typical. Dont tell me they are going to land on their feet again! |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:00 pm ] |
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david.d wrote: I cant *%^@*** believe this late bid. Chelsea are going to emerge from this still smelling of roses. Bloody typical. Dont tell me they are going to land on their feet again! Looking that way. This guy has a real passion for sports dominance. And a track record too. Just the sort of outcome that we didn’t want. |
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| Author: | warrior [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:11 pm ] |
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long time gooner wrote: I saw it in Forbes. I'm not listed in there so it's obviously wrong. |
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| Author: | Darren [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:48 pm ] |
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Couldn’t give a *%^@ who buys Chelsea. They’ll always be total *%^@. *%^@ them. |
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