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Author:  Bernard [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:40 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Pépé on loan to Nice is advancing. Nice owned by Sir Jim Radcliffe - Britains wealthiest man apparently - and someone who has been in the news about a possible take over of Man U.

If Pépé goes I think we certainly see a new right winger come in

minutes per goal or assist for Arsenal
Pépé 172
Overmars 174
Özil 175
Ljungberg 217

Pépé had the attributes including skill and pace to be a top player. Despite the stats you show, it never really worked out for him at Arsenal.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:45 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Pépé on loan to Nice is advancing. Nice owned by Sir Jim Radcliffe - Britains wealthiest man apparently - and someone who has been in the news about a possible take over of Man U.

If Pépé goes I think we certainly see a new right winger come in

minutes per goal or assist for Arsenal
Pépé 172
Overmars 174
Özil 175
Ljungberg 217

He’s great in the final third and his shooting is incredibly accurate, can take free kicks really well too. This is the frustrating thing, he is a threat just look at wolves home last season when he came on.

It’s just that he hasn’t got a footballing brain defensively, takes risks in midfield and these days I’m not sure you can have a winger who doesn’t assume defensive responsibilities also. They all seem in tune with the game these days and saka is a true example of it.

It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he went somewhere else and they managed to get a tune out of him by playing him a different way and moving other players around to cover his faults.

Totally frustrating player

Author:  TOP GUN [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:50 pm ]
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Rumour has it Tielemans has been left out of the Leicester squad for tomorrows game. He’s not injured either

I suppose it’s the final full week before the transfer window closes so they are concerned with him getting an injury that could cost the club a 30 million pound fee.

Part of me expects him to rock up at man united as part of their absurd trolley dash

Author:  DHD [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:22 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Pépé on loan to Nice is advancing. Nice owned by Sir Jim Radcliffe - Britains wealthiest man apparently - and someone who has been in the news about a possible take over of Man U.



Those Mancs need to be careful what they wish for. Radcliffe is an utter a******.

Author:  Bernard [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:50 pm ]
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Steve Braddock, the groundsman, passing away today is reported on Arsenal.com. Very sad. He was at the hospice where my wife is a nurse, although he died at home. Thierry Henry often phoned him, which cheered him up.

Author:  long time gooner [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:58 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
Steve Braddock, the groundsman, passing away today is reported on Arsenal.com. Very sad. He was at the hospice where my wife is a nurse, although he died at home. Thierry Henry often phoned him, which cheered him up.

He was famous for his Highbury pitches. Quite revolutionary at the time.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19562669 ... roundsman/

It’s a heartening tale about Thierry’s ongoing contact.

Only 58. Wow.

Author:  Rich [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:19 pm ]
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I read that neither Tuchel or Conte will get touchline bans for the next game? What’s the point of the red card? They had both had yellow cards before in the game so it wasn’t just a momentary lapse, they were both at it all game. If you’re sent off you get suspended no matter who you are.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:21 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Pépé on loan to Nice is advancing. Nice owned by Sir Jim Radcliffe - Britains wealthiest man apparently - and someone who has been in the news about a possible take over of Man U.

If Pépé goes I think we certainly see a new right winger come in

minutes per goal or assist for Arsenal
Pépé 172
Overmars 174
Özil 175
Ljungberg 217


Stats aside, as well as obvious skill on the ball, I just felt he lacked the mindset of a team player some if not most of the time. He got better at team football but I just got the impression he had more of a desire to show his skill than make the requisite pass instead. Pépé was going to do what Pépé wanted and not what the team needed from him. Maybe it wasn't so, but that's what I got from his game.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:22 pm ]
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DHD wrote:
Rich wrote:
Pépé on loan to Nice is advancing. Nice owned by Sir Jim Radcliffe - Britains wealthiest man apparently - and someone who has been in the news about a possible take over of Man U.



Those Mancs need to be careful what they wish for. Radcliffe is an utter a******.


Utter *%^@*** a******

Another brexit moron who demanded brexit happen then 3 years later moved his manufacturing to France then moved to Monaco himself.

It grates that these scumbags are insistent on everyone in Britain dealing with the consequences whilst they sun themselves abroad

Author:  Rich [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:28 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Rumour has it Tielemans has been left out of the Leicester squad for tomorrows game. He’s not injured either

I suppose it’s the final full week before the transfer window closes so they are concerned with him getting an injury that could cost the club a 30 million pound fee.

Part of me expects him to rock up at man united as part of their absurd trolley dash

Fofana as well has asked to be left out.

Tough on Leicester who were for so long seen as a way a team can put smart the market. A couple of mistakes and it can hit hard though.

It’s also difficult whether a club of Leicesters size sells or tries to hold out for more. Sell earlier and you can get your replacement in but you might not get the top price. To be honest every team should have a plan and ideal replacement for every player in your squad.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:28 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
I read that neither Tuchel or Conte will get touchline bans for the next game? What’s the point of the red card? They had both had yellow cards before in the game so it wasn’t just a momentary lapse, they were both at it all game. If you’re sent off you get suspended no matter who you are.


Wenger got a 4 game ban for swearing at an official

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... fa-arsenal

Author:  Zed [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:49 pm ]
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The MU trolley dash could happen given this report. Not necessarily reflects the reason Tielemans left out of Leicester's squad. Fofana asked to be, so Tielemans may have also done so.

If United turn towards signing Tielemans with deals for Frenkie de Jong and Rabiot looking increasingly unlikely to go through, it might push Arsenal to hurry up and get the Belgian's signature. If that does happen, Arteta won't want to wait until next summer when the 25-year-old's contract expires.

Author:  Bernard [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:16 pm ]
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Zed wrote:
The MU trolley dash could happen given this report. Not necessarily reflects the reason Tielemans left out of Leicester's squad. Fofana asked to be, so Tielemans may have also done so.

If United turn towards signing Tielemans with deals for Frenkie de Jong and Rabiot looking increasingly unlikely to go through, it might push Arsenal to hurry up and get the Belgian's signature. If that does happen, Arteta won't want to wait until next summer when the 25-year-old's contract expires.

I still think it’s highly debatable whether Arteta fancies Tielemans as a player. The guy has been available all summer, apparently for £25m. Meanwhile we’ve spent £120m on other players. Plenty of players have gone or are on the point of departure. Hence I’m unconvinced by the ‘waiting to get people out the door’ rationale for not signing him.

Tielemans was outclassed by Xhaka last week. Even Partey, who didn’t have one of his better games, was comfortably better. Would Tielemans actually improve the first eleven? I remember DHD suggesting perhaps he was playing to get away. If that is the case, alongside all the accusations from Leicester fans last season that he wasn’t even trying, is Tielemans really the type of character or person we want at Arsenal? Just when everyone including the ownership regime, management hierarchy, players and fans seem at long last to be moving in the same direction?

Author:  Rich [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:17 pm ]
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Chelsea have bid 15m euros plus Alonso for Aubameyang.

Author:  Zed [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:24 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
Zed wrote:
The MU trolley dash could happen given this report. Not necessarily reflects the reason Tielemans left out of Leicester's squad. Fofana asked to be, so Tielemans may have also done so.

If United turn towards signing Tielemans with deals for Frenkie de Jong and Rabiot looking increasingly unlikely to go through, it might push Arsenal to hurry up and get the Belgian's signature. If that does happen, Arteta won't want to wait until next summer when the 25-year-old's contract expires.

I still think it’s highly debatable whether Arteta fancies Tielemans as a player. The guy has been available all summer, apparently for £25m. Meanwhile we’ve spent £120m on other players. Plenty of players have gone or are on the point of departure. Hence I’m unconvinced by the ‘waiting to get people out the door’ rationale for not signing him.

Tielemans was outclassed by Xhaka last week. Even Partey, who didn’t have one of his better games, was comfortably better. Would Tielemans actually improve the first eleven? I remember DHD suggesting perhaps he was playing to get away. If that is the case, alongside all the accusations from Leicester fans last season that he wasn’t even trying, is Tielemans really the type of character or person we want at Arsenal? Just when everyone including the ownership regime, management hierarchy, players and fans seem at long last to be moving in the same direction?

So far not seen anything indicating MA doesn't fancy Tielemans. Only see Arsenal stiil interested. Not certain what Edu's personal stance is though. Thought only terms were agreed with Leicester, but no formal bid made, except cost range is £25M thereabouts. Have seen indications that Edu is looking at another Brazilian, Lucas Paquetá from Lyon though, who's a midfielder.

Author:  Bernard [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:50 pm ]
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Zed wrote:
Bernard wrote:
I still think it’s highly debatable whether Arteta fancies Tielemans as a player. The guy has been available all summer, apparently for £25m. Meanwhile we’ve spent £120m on other players. Plenty of players have gone or are on the point of departure. Hence I’m unconvinced by the ‘waiting to get people out the door’ rationale for not signing him.

Tielemans was outclassed by Xhaka last week. Even Partey, who didn’t have one of his better games, was comfortably better. Would Tielemans actually improve the first eleven? I remember DHD suggesting perhaps he was playing to get away. If that is the case, alongside all the accusations from Leicester fans last season that he wasn’t even trying, is Tielemans really the type of character or person we want at Arsenal? Just when everyone including the ownership regime, management hierarchy, players and fans seem at long last to be moving in the same direction?

So far not seen anything indicating MA doesn't fancy Tielemans. Only see Arsenal stiil interested. Not certain what Edu's personal stance is though. Thought only terms were agreed with Leicester, but no formal bid made, except cost range is £25M thereabouts. Have seen indications that Edu is looking at another Brazilian, Lucas Paquetá from Lyon though, who's a midfielder.

But if Arteta wanted him, why hasn’t he been recruited yet? It just doesn’t make sense. He’s been available all summer so how trustworthy are all the reports linking us with him? £25m is easily affordable.

What terms have been agreed with Leicester if no formal offer has been made? The transfer fee is surely the main thing to sort out with Leicester. So why has no offer been made if Arteta really does want him?

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:38 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
Zed wrote:
So far not seen anything indicating MA doesn't fancy Tielemans. Only see Arsenal stiil interested. Not certain what Edu's personal stance is though. Thought only terms were agreed with Leicester, but no formal bid made, except cost range is £25M thereabouts. Have seen indications that Edu is looking at another Brazilian, Lucas Paquetá from Lyon though, who's a midfielder.

But if Arteta wanted him, why hasn’t he been recruited yet? It just doesn’t make sense. He’s been available all summer so how trustworthy are all the reports linking us with him? £25m is easily affordable.

What terms have been agreed with Leicester if no formal offer has been made? The transfer fee is surely the main thing to sort out with Leicester. So why has no offer been made if Arteta really does want him?

Very early in the off-season Arsenal Vision (podcast) did a detailed look at his style of play. Going forward absolutely brilliant but after loss of possession very slow to recover and get back. I think he may not be the box to box player we want. Looking at the Leicester game he was pretty ordinary. So having said all that no doubt we will sign him this weekend.

Author:  gooner7 [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:42 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Chelsea have bid 15m euros plus Alonso for Aubameyang.


Hope he goes there and fail. Beginning to dislike Aubameyang a lot.

Author:  gooner7 [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:43 am ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
Bernard wrote:
But if Arteta wanted him, why hasn’t he been recruited yet? It just doesn’t make sense. He’s been available all summer so how trustworthy are all the reports linking us with him? £25m is easily affordable.

What terms have been agreed with Leicester if no formal offer has been made? The transfer fee is surely the main thing to sort out with Leicester. So why has no offer been made if Arteta really does want him?

Very early in the off-season Arsenal Vision (podcast) did a detailed look at his style of play. Going forward absolutely brilliant but after loss of possession very slow to recover and get back. I think he may not be the box to box player we want. Looking at the Leicester game he was pretty ordinary. So having said all that no doubt we will sign him this weekend.


We sign him and then he starts to put in MOTM performances for us :26encouragement:
Similar to Ramsdale

Author:  gooner7 [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:45 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
Steve Braddock, the groundsman, passing away today is reported on Arsenal.com. Very sad. He was at the hospice where my wife is a nurse, although he died at home. Thierry Henry often phoned him, which cheered him up.


RIP Steve B

Heartwarming to know of Henry's good heart

Author:  Rich [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:10 am ]
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If Arsenal want Tielemans then the only reasons I can think for not getting him yet is we felt we could get a much, much cheaper deal at the end of the window because Tielemans only has 1 year left on his deal.

Author:  bubblechris [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:10 am ]
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Isn't the obvious reason we haven't signed Tielemans is because he'll be available on a free next year? We have cover in midfield if Partey or Xhaka are injured so why not wait for a reasonable fee or leave it till this time next year, or maybe even next transfer period.

Author:  Bernard [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:22 am ]
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Seen this comment attributed to Arteta. Can’t vouch for its authenticity but I hope he said it. After previously being massively against the KSE ownership regime, I’m fast changing my mind.

Mikel Arteta on the Kroenkes: "I think the commitment and desire of this ownership is without a question or doubt as good as I’ve seen in football, so it’s great to see as well that now there is a little bit of change in that talk."

"They’re on it, they want to take this club to a completely different level. They have the ambition and it’s clear, there is so much evidence that they’re giving us all the support we need in order to do that."

Author:  Bernard [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:42 am ]
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Rich wrote:
If Arsenal want Tielemans then the only reasons I can think for not getting him yet is we felt we could get a much, much cheaper deal at the end of the window because Tielemans only has 1 year left on his deal.

Hi Rich. How much cheaper do you think we’ll get Tielemans for at the end of the window? £5m, so £20m instead of £25? Personally I’d be surprised if it would go down £10m to £15m because there will be a point when Leicester say ‘we might as well keep him and risk losing him for nothing next summer’ (as Arsenal were doing with Nketiah last season). Particularly if Rodgers thinks keeping him will improve Leicester’s chances of having a decent season.

If Leicester are on the point of bankruptcy, a dramatic fall from £25m may be more likely to keep them afloat. But while they’re not a massively rich club, I’ve not seen anything to suggest they’re as destitute or penny less as that.

Moreover, just sitting back and playing this waiting game to get him a few million cheaper opens up the possibility of other clubs moving in to sign him. Does a saving of £5m (if it’s going to be £20m instead of £25m) make that risk worthwhile to a club of Arsenal’s size and wealth?

Otherwise, are we the only club Tielemans will consider joining, to make us safe from others stepping in? Sorry but I just can’t see it.

Author:  Rich [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:00 am ]
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Jesus has had 26 touches in the opposition box in 2 games this season. For context Lacazette had 31 touches in his 20 league starts last year

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Author:  TOP GUN [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:24 am ]
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Arsenal spoke to Leicester in may apparently and were told the price for Tielemans is 42 -50 million quid. Contrary to what was reported in the press. Leicester are not easy to negotiate with at all we know this from James Maddison and they only let their players go for huge money just look at fofana.

Made sense to wait because Leicester have to compromise at some point hence they cant even risk playing him today. Remember the articles about Arsenal looking at other options ( clearly deliberately leaked )

I’m not saying we will sign him (it feels ripe for him to end up at Man united they are desperate) but waiting is part of the game sometimes if you are talking about a 20 million pound saving. Remember Partey, linked all summer signed on the last day of the window.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:27 am ]
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Rich wrote:
If Arsenal want Tielemans then the only reasons I can think for not getting him yet is we felt we could get a much, much cheaper deal at the end of the window because Tielemans only has 1 year left on his deal.

Yes it’s a game of poker sometimes. I also do get the feeling though that if it meant spending 40 million quid rather than 25 then we might prefer to sign other players if it’s that much. Maybe a winger or paqueta or who knows

Author:  Rich [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:29 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
Rich wrote:
If Arsenal want Tielemans then the only reasons I can think for not getting him yet is we felt we could get a much, much cheaper deal at the end of the window because Tielemans only has 1 year left on his deal.

Hi Rich. How much cheaper do you think we’ll get Tielemans for at the end of the window? £5m, so £20m instead of £25? Personally I’d be surprised if it would go down £10m to £15m because there will be a point when Leicester say ‘we might as well keep him and risk losing him for nothing next summer’ (as Arsenal were doing with Nketiah last season). Particularly if Rodgers thinks keeping him will improve Leicester’s chances of having a decent season.

If Leicester are on the point of bankruptcy, a dramatic fall from £25m may be more likely to keep them afloat. But while they’re not a massively rich club, I’ve not seen anything to suggest they’re as destitute or penny less as that.

Moreover, just sitting back and playing this waiting game to get him a few million cheaper opens up the possibility of other clubs moving in to sign him. Does a saving of £5m (if it’s going to be £20m instead of £25m) make that risk worthwhile to a club of Arsenal’s size and wealth?

Otherwise, are we the only club Tielemans will consider joining, to make us safe from others stepping in? Sorry but I just can’t see it.

I agree with you, I was just putting out a possible reason why. I think any discount for being the back end of the window is minimal. Also Arsenal have played their cards very close to their chest this summer, even the big in the know journalists have said as such. So it wouldn’t surprise me if Tielemans wasn’t the primary target, but at the same time his profile does chime with the transfers we’ve been making. Prem ready and short contract length

Author:  Bernard [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:27 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Arsenal spoke to Leicester in may apparently and were told the price for Tielemans is 42 -50 million quid. Contrary to what was reported in the press.

Where did you get that from?

Author:  warrior [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:18 am ]
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https://i.imgur.com/MPpQmSH.mp4

:53big-emoticons:

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:00 pm ]
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D@mn it, was hoping Wolves would get something out of the game...fingers crossed for the remainder.

Author:  Decaf [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:05 pm ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
D@mn it, was hoping Wolves would get something out of the game...fingers crossed for the remainder.

One just knew spurs would score.

Author:  david.d [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:36 pm ]
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My utter utter dislike for Spurs, kane son et Al knows no bounds.
How many times are those *%^@ going to get them out of jail. They are an ordinary side but infuriatingly will kerp winning these type of games because of their forward line.
Seen this type of game from spurs so many *%^@*** times.

Author:  Zed [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:03 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
Zed wrote:
So far not seen anything indicating MA doesn't fancy Tielemans. Only see Arsenal stiil interested. Not certain what Edu's personal stance is though. Thought only terms were agreed with Leicester, but no formal bid made, except cost range is £25M thereabouts. Have seen indications that Edu is looking at another Brazilian, Lucas Paquetá from Lyon though, who's a midfielder.

But if Arteta wanted him, why hasn’t he been recruited yet? It just doesn’t make sense. He’s been available all summer so how trustworthy are all the reports linking us with him? £25m is easily affordable.

What terms have been agreed with Leicester if no formal offer has been made? The transfer fee is surely the main thing to sort out with Leicester. So why has no offer been made if Arteta really does want him?

Terms referring to wages, add- ons possibly. Recently read that Tielemans is still a top priority, yet if no initial deal is agreed, then Lucas Paqueta is being considered.
Really £25M isn't a bad amount for a deal if that is what Leicester initially expect. Anything can happen obviously. Under 2 weeks to go still and a few players need to be off loaded, if that's what the plan is prior to bringing in needed targets.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:44 pm ]
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Unchanged. Arteta really doesn’t like changing it.

Personally I’d have given Tierney a run. Seems like his type of game. Away smaller ground difficult atmosphere , more of a battle. Use the squad a bit.

Author:  Bernard [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:02 pm ]
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Tielemans came on as a sub for Leicester today so he was in the squad. Is it feasible he was dropped from the starting eleven following his dismal performance at the Emirates last weekend?

Author:  bubblechris [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:06 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Unchanged. Arteta really doesn’t like changing it.

Personally I’d have given Tierney a run. Seems like his type of game. Away smaller ground difficult atmosphere , more of a battle. Use the squad a bit.

I still think Saka was burnt out at the end of last season and it looks like he doesn't think so. Unless he gets a grip on rotating players throughout the season our hopes could take a dive.

Somebody have a word with the Boss.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:24 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Unchanged. Arteta really doesn’t like changing it.

Personally I’d have given Tierney a run. Seems like his type of game. Away smaller ground difficult atmosphere , more of a battle. Use the squad a bit.

I still think Saka was burnt out at the end of last season and it looks like he doesn't think so. Unless he gets a grip on rotating players throughout the season our hopes could take a dive.

Somebody have a word with the Boss.

Everyone was burnt out at the end of last season but no way could we have dropped anyone at that point

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:35 pm ]
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Jesus is superb. He reminds me of Ian wright. An utter menace

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Author:  Hazuki [ Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:35 pm ]
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Ødegaard! Brilliant work by Gabriel Jesus, what a start!

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