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Rich wrote:

Most of the talk today is that Saka will come back in to the side for England's Semi Final. Sometimes we need to step back and realise how talented Saka is. 19 years old and potentially being picked ahead of the likes of Sancho, Foden, Rashford and Grealish is phenomenal.

Amazing what he's done. I hope England win for his sake and because Italy England would be pretty tasty. I've always had an aversion to the azzurri so it's England all the way! :5encouragement:

You can smell another England goal coming.

Typical Kane, cheating to get a penalty. Disgusting.

gooner7 wrote:

Typical Kane, cheating to get a penalty. Disgusting.

He got the ball first, the defender didn’t.

Ash wrote:

He got the ball first, the defender didn’t.

He's been diving all game.

Ash wrote:

He got the ball first, the defender didn’t.

He's been diving all game.

...Italy are probably a better all round side but in Sterling and Kane we have players with pace and power who can both create and score out of virtually nothing. I fancy us against them. They are very good technically, have a great defence and midfield but their forwards are quite wasteful and not in the class of Kane or Sterling.

Penalty rebound and an OG :laughing7:

Italy must be quaking in their Armanis

An evening of pure revulsion and disgust occurred at Wembley this evening, a national disgrace of people cheering, smiling and hugging.

Pure filth.

Probably not a pen and lucky with the rebound but deserved the win on the balance of play.

The Danes actually became less effective and more disjointed after they made that raft of subs.

I would say that england can feel a little fortunate not to have had to play Spain, Italy, France or Belgium on route to the final because any one of those would have been very tricky games.

Sterling was brilliant, unplayable at times and Kane was his usual potent mix of amazing strength, skill and blatant simulation.

Italy are probably a better all round side but in Sterling and Kane we have players with pace and power who can both create and score out of virtually nothing.

I fancy us against them. They are very good technically, have a great defence and midfield but their forwards are quite wasteful and not in the class of Kane or Sterling.

Their number 24 was pushing into Sterling's hip.Even if you think it was weak what about the earlier pen shout that wasn't given it was a nailed on penalty imo.

Lots of reports that the Ben White deal is close. I’m still not confident about it. Tavares and Lokonga seem like done deals for around £23-25m for the pair.
The priority positions to sort out then will be central attacking midfield, gk and right back. As well as sorting the future of at least 6-7 players

I thought Kane had a better shout for a penalty than the one Sterling got. If that Sterling penalty had been against Arsenal I’d have been fuming.
I also think if the ref hadn’t given the penalty then VAR wouldn’t have over turned his decision

Having come on for Saka (whom I thought was excellent) I find myself wanting show-pony Grealish to fukup.

How bad an Englishman am I?

Rich wrote:

We probably can’t do the deals until we find a buyer for Saka

Gaz from Oz wrote:

We probably can’t do the deals until we find a buyer for Saka

The trouble is, big and more successful clubs will start casting envious eyes on Saka very soon. They probably already are. Having said that, it would astonish me if Saka was sold this summer. But sorry for my negativity about Kroenke, I think it’s only a matter of time before Saka is sold.

His current contract expires 2024 so another three years. I would hope there’s a decent possibility he’ll sign another with Arsenal. The impression I get is that contracts go to a 30th June in the future from when the new one is signed rather than the date the old (or current) one expires.

If that’s right and it’s extended in 2022 for four years, that takes it to 2026. If he extends it in 2023 that takes it to 2027. But I’m much less confident about another being signed after that, unless somehow things improve to such an an extent at Arsenal that I personally doubt is likely.

Hence my guess is Saka will probably be sold for the maximum price two years before the expiry of his next, not current, contract. If so he’ll be sold in either 2024 or 2025. So in three or four years.

Gaz from Oz wrote:

We probably can’t do the deals until we find a buyer for Saka

This is brilliant f365 have had to put up a separate mailbox today to cover all the fans who posted in from Ireland consumed by bitterness about last nights game

https://www.football365.com/news/englan ... ng-penalty

TOP GUN wrote:

Some Irish, some English, by the look of it.

...Hope that kid makes a ton of money and has tons of success

...Hence my guess is Saka will probably be sold for the maximum price two years before the expiry of his next, not current, contract. If so he’ll be sold in either 2024 or 2025. So in three or four years.

DHD wrote:

Having come on for Saka (whom I thought was excellent) I find myself wanting show-pony Grealish to fukup.

How bad an Englishman am I?

I don’t think the coaching team trusts Grealish and his defensive side.

On Saka it’s so great to watch a young lad having such success. Arsenal need to lock him down to another huge contract ASAP.

He reminds me a bit of one of my favourite Arsenal players Anders Limpar in as much as he’s good at playing on the shoulder of his full back and can do that well but many of his best moments comes from when he drops into midfield and overloads it so runners start appearing and all of a sudden things open up. Anders was very good at that part of his game. 2 very good players. Hope that kid makes a ton of money and has tons of success

Author:	dec [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:01 pm ]
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Decaf wrote: Rich wrote: Most of the talk today is that Saka will come back in to the side for England's Semi Final. Sometimes we need to step back and realise how talented Saka is. 19 years old and potentially being picked ahead of the likes of Sancho, Foden, Rashford and Grealish is phenomenal. Amazing what he's done. I hope England win for his sake and because Italy England would be pretty tasty. I've always had an aversion to the azzurri so it's England all the way! I love the Italians. Always have. Their passion verges on lunacy and they seem to endure tragedy and elation in equal measure despite winning most of their games. Also,Chiellini laughing his head off at the coin toss before the penalties last night. Fabulous.

Author:	Lincoln gooner [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:24 pm ]
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You can smell another England goal coming.

Author:	Ash [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:29 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote: You can smell another England goal coming. Give me a pointer where to sniff

Author:	gooner7 [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:31 pm ]
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Typical Kane, cheating to get a penalty. Disgusting.

Author:	Ash [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:34 pm ]
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gooner7 wrote: Typical Kane, cheating to get a penalty. Disgusting. He got the ball first, the defender didn’t.

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Author:	DHD [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:48 pm ]
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Having come on for Saka (whom I thought was excellent) I find myself wanting show-pony Grealish to fukup. How bad an Englishman am I?

Author:	danny [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:49 pm ]
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Southgate has not covered himself in glory tonight. Saka off for Grealish was pointless. Mount has been poor and Sterling ineffective on the right. Please lift the curse of ITV.

Author:	dec [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:56 pm ]
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Ash wrote: gooner7 wrote: Typical Kane, cheating to get a penalty. Disgusting. He got the ball first, the defender didn’t. He's been diving all game.

Author:	Lincoln gooner [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:01 pm ]
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dec wrote: Ash wrote: He got the ball first, the defender didn’t. He's been diving all game. He has. The comms call it 'winning fouls'.

Author:	Ash [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:09 pm ]
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dec wrote: Ash wrote: He got the ball first, the defender didn’t. He's been diving all game. Sure. It’s Harry Kane, my favourite is where he feels the defender gently breathe on him and goes down Got to the ball before the defender there though.

Author:	gooner7 [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:20 pm ]
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The Danes has lost steam. Don't think they can get an equaliser.

Author:	Ash [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:39 pm ]
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Penalty rebound and an OG Italy must be quaking in their Armanis

Author:	socrates [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:50 pm ]
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Probably not a pen and lucky with the rebound but deserved the win on the balance of play. The Danes actually became less effective and more disjointed after they made that raft of subs. I would say that england can feel a little fortunate not to have had to play Spain, Italy, France or Belgium on route to the final because any one of those would have been very tricky games. Sterling was brilliant, unplayable at times and Kane was his usual potent mix of amazing strength, skill and blatant simulation. Italy are probably a better all round side but in Sterling and Kane we have players with pace and power who can both create and score out of virtually nothing. I fancy us against them. They are very good technically, have a great defence and midfield but their forwards are quite wasteful and not in the class of Kane or Sterling.

Author:	old man of hoy [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:32 pm ]
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socrates wrote: ...Italy are probably a better all round side but in Sterling and Kane we have players with pace and power who can both create and score out of virtually nothing. I fancy us against them. They are very good technically, have a great defence and midfield but their forwards are quite wasteful and not in the class of Kane or Sterling. I can never go against Italy as they are masters of international football, and in Chiesa they have a diamond. But yes, you have to think England are in with a decent shout - varied attacking options, good game management and Pickford aside, an outstanding defence. The keeper worries me, but so far his distribution mistakes have gone unpunished, and he is generally a tidy shot-stopper. As my mate said tonight, if only Schmeicel was English!

Author:	TOP GUN [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:43 am ]
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Ben white transfer increased to 48 plus 6 in add ons https://twitter.com/DuncanCastles/statu ... 67872?s=20

Author:	TOP GUN [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:45 pm ]
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An evening of pure revulsion and disgust occurred at Wembley this evening, a national disgrace of people cheering, smiling and hugging. Pure filth.

Author:	TOP GUN [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:48 pm ]
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Ash wrote: Penalty rebound and an OG Italy must be quaking in their Armanis The og was a very good goal actually. Showed the intelligence of our lad. 2 against the Germans, 4 Ukraine, 2 Denmark. The Italians will know we can score.

Author:	Terry Henry [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:02 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote: An evening of pure revulsion and disgust occurred at Wembley this evening, a national disgrace of people cheering, smiling and hugging. Pure filth. It was truly disgusting, I nearly choked on my bratwurst.

Author:	Bernard [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:31 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote: An evening of pure revulsion and disgust occurred at Wembley this evening, a national disgrace of people cheering, smiling and hugging. Pure filth. Interesting that you think that way.

Author:	gooner7 [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:22 am ]
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socrates wrote: Probably not a pen and lucky with the rebound but deserved the win on the balance of play. The Danes actually became less effective and more disjointed after they made that raft of subs. I would say that england can feel a little fortunate not to have had to play Spain, Italy, France or Belgium on route to the final because any one of those would have been very tricky games. Sterling was brilliant, unplayable at times and Kane was his usual potent mix of amazing strength, skill and blatant simulation. Italy are probably a better all round side but in Sterling and Kane we have players with pace and power who can both create and score out of virtually nothing. I fancy us against them. They are very good technically, have a great defence and midfield but their forwards are quite wasteful and not in the class of Kane or Sterling. It was unfortunate Damsgaard was substituted. And it was a double whammy as Poulsen was offering nothing.

Author:	bubblechris [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:22 am ]
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Well done to the manager. Kept his powder burning and held off substituting anyone till the last moment. Like he knew they would crumble. Non existent in extra time but we were awesome. Still think Saka was patient and saw little of the game first half because Sterling was the main point of attack. Was thinking how good it would be if he joined us rather than Pep going all out for Saka now. Kate had a great game too and never stopped.

Author:	bubblechris [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:12 am ]
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Their number 24 was pushing into Sterling's hip.Even if you think it was weak what about the earlier pen shout that wasn't given it was a nailed on penalty imo.

Author:	Rich [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:35 am ]
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Lots of reports that the Ben White deal is close. I’m still not confident about it. Tavares and Lokonga seem like done deals for around £23-25m for the pair. The priority positions to sort out then will be central attacking midfield, gk and right back. As well as sorting the future of at least 6-7 players

Author:	Rich [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:36 am ]
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I thought Kane had a better shout for a penalty than the one Sterling got. If that Sterling penalty had been against Arsenal I’d have been fuming. I also think if the ref hadn’t given the penalty then VAR wouldn’t have over turned his decision

Author:	Gaz from Oz [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:42 am ]
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bubblechris wrote: Their number 24 was pushing into Sterling's hip.Even if you think it was weak what about the earlier pen shout that wasn't given it was a nailed on penalty imo. I look forward to us getting those penalties next year

Author:	Gaz from Oz [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:44 am ]
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Rich wrote: Lots of reports that the Ben White deal is close. I’m still not confident about it. Tavares and Lokonga seem like done deals for around £23-25m for the pair. The priority positions to sort out then will be central attacking midfield, gk and right back. As well as sorting the future of at least 6-7 players We probably can’t do the deals until we find a buyer for Saka

Author:	Bernard [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:11 am ]
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Rich wrote: I thought Kane had a better shout for a penalty than the one Sterling got. If that Sterling penalty had been against Arsenal I’d have been fuming. I also think if the ref hadn’t given the penalty then VAR wouldn’t have over turned his decision To be honest, I’m certain you would have been fuming if the Kane one was given against Arsenal.

Author:	socrates [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:21 am ]
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Rich wrote: I thought Kane had a better shout for a penalty than the one Sterling got. If that Sterling penalty had been against Arsenal I’d have been fuming. I also think if the ref hadn’t given the penalty then VAR wouldn’t have over turned his decision Hi Rich, I thought the Sterling one looked like a pen in real time and without the benefit of slow motion replays. This is where I think VAR has to say to the ref look I am not sure there was any actual contact but go and have a look at the monitor and see what you think. Especially so in the context of such a big game. That way the ref, and both sets of players, can be reassured that he has seen the incident in both real time and slo-mo and any decision has thus been properly scrutinised. Infact, you might argue that for any pen that is actually given the ref should automatically have a look at the monitor just to make sure. Just as VAR checks when a potential pen is not given.

Author:	TOP GUN [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:24 am ]
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DHD wrote: Having come on for Saka (whom I thought was excellent) I find myself wanting show-pony Grealish to fukup. How bad an Englishman am I? I don’t think the coaching team trusts Grealish and his defensive side. On Saka it’s so great to watch a young lad having such success. Arsenal need to lock him down to another huge contract ASAP. He reminds me a bit of one of my favourite Arsenal players Anders Limpar in as much as he’s good at playing on the shoulder of his full back and can do that well but many of his best moments comes from when he drops into midfield and overloads it so runners start appearing and all of a sudden things open up. Anders was very good at that part of his game. 2 very good players. Hope that kid makes a ton of money and has tons of success

Author:	Bernard [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:04 am ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote: Rich wrote: Lots of reports that the Ben White deal is close. I’m still not confident about it. Tavares and Lokonga seem like done deals for around £23-25m for the pair. The priority positions to sort out then will be central attacking midfield, gk and right back. As well as sorting the future of at least 6-7 players We probably can’t do the deals until we find a buyer for Saka The trouble is, big and more successful clubs will start casting envious eyes on Saka very soon. They probably already are. Having said that, it would astonish me if Saka was sold this summer. But sorry for my negativity about Kroenke, I think it’s only a matter of time before Saka is sold. His current contract expires 2024 so another three years. I would hope there’s a decent possibility he’ll sign another with Arsenal. The impression I get is that contracts go to a 30th June in the future from when the new one is signed rather than the date the old (or current) one expires. If that’s right and it’s extended in 2022 for four years, that takes it to 2026. If he extends it in 2023 that takes it to 2027. But I’m much less confident about another being signed after that, unless somehow things improve to such an an extent at Arsenal that I personally doubt is likely. Hence my guess is Saka will probably be sold for the maximum price two years before the expiry of his next, not current, contract. If so he’ll be sold in either 2024 or 2025. So in three or four years.

Author:	Gaz from Oz [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:41 am ]
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Bernard wrote: Gaz from Oz wrote: We probably can’t do the deals until we find a buyer for Saka The trouble is, big and more successful clubs will start casting envious eyes on Saka very soon. They probably already are. Having said that, it would astonish me if Saka was sold this summer. But sorry for my negativity about Kroenke, I think it’s only a matter of time before Saka is sold. His current contract expires 2024 so another three years. I would hope there’s a decent possibility he’ll sign another with Arsenal. The impression I get is that contracts go to a 30th June in the future from when the new one is signed rather than the date the old (or current) one expires. If that’s right and it’s extended in 2022 for four years, that takes it to 2026. If he extends it in 2023 that takes it to 2027. But I’m much less confident about another being signed after that, unless somehow things improve to such an an extent at Arsenal that I personally doubt is likely. Hence my guess is Saka will probably be sold for the maximum price two years before the expiry of his next, not current, contract. If so he’ll be sold in either 2024 or 2025. So in three or four years. I wasn't actually being serious, but likewise I think Saka will be with us for a little while longer. If we get CL next season, he will be happy but I am not sure that people won't be in his ear if we fail to be in the CL in the near future. It would only make sense for someone who is still developing to want to test himself against better players than you get in the League/FA Cups and even Europa league. Dundalk and the group last year failed to inspire me. In fact we never played a top team at all in the last 2 years of Europa and still bombed out.

Author:	TOP GUN [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:50 am ]
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This is brilliant f365 have had to put up a separate mailbox today to cover all the fans who posted in from Ireland consumed by bitterness about last nights game https://www.football365.com/news/englan ... ng-penalty

Author:	gooner7 [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:51 am ]
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Bernard wrote: Gaz from Oz wrote: We probably can’t do the deals until we find a buyer for Saka The trouble is, big and more successful clubs will start casting envious eyes on Saka very soon. They probably already are. Having said that, it would astonish me if Saka was sold this summer. But sorry for my negativity about Kroenke, I think it’s only a matter of time before Saka is sold. His current contract expires 2024 so another three years. I would hope there’s a decent possibility he’ll sign another with Arsenal. The impression I get is that contracts go to a 30th June in the future from when the new one is signed rather than the date the old (or current) one expires. If that’s right and it’s extended in 2022 for four years, that takes it to 2026. If he extends it in 2023 that takes it to 2027. But I’m much less confident about another being signed after that, unless somehow things improve to such an an extent at Arsenal that I personally doubt is likely. Hence my guess is Saka will probably be sold for the maximum price two years before the expiry of his next, not current, contract. If so he’ll be sold in either 2024 or 2025. So in three or four years. Arsenal has 2 seasons to show ambition and be chasing for the EPL, and also achieve ECL qualification. Saka will be gone if we don't progress during these 2 years. And not just Saka.

Author:	Gunfire [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:16 am ]
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As an Irish man I was supporting England and will do for the final.

Author:	mcquilkie [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:18 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote: This is brilliant f365 have had to put up a separate mailbox today to cover all the fans who posted in from Ireland consumed by bitterness about last nights game https://www.football365.com/news/englan ... ng-penalty Some Irish, some English, by the look of it.