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Author:  DHD [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:07 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
DHD wrote:
We'll never know what tonight's crowd is. The attendance that's announced will include 40,000 season tickets but I'd guess that only 10% will actually be there.

We won't know for sure how many are in the ground but I think it'll be fairly obvious if there's around 55k empty seats. There would have been many fewer, I reckon, had we comfortably won the first leg to make tonights game academic. But I think there's now too much resting on it for somewhere around 9 out of every 10 seats to be empty..


I'm not sure many give a rat's arse about tonight's game, delicately poised though it may be. And a bloody 17:55 kick-off time? I count myself fortunate that I finally managed to give my tickets away - took a bit of trying, believe me.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:13 am ]
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I was in NYC at one of the early "soccer bars" in Manhattan during this game. Left a business meeting, risking trouble from my boss but I had to see it.

I never realized till looking at it now, how much Henry did for this goal. In the same category to the meandering runs he had vs, Liverpool in 2004 and vs Tottenham.


Author:  mcquilkie [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:17 am ]
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old man of hoy wrote:
mcquilkie wrote:
I'd never heard of Roy Pack either, DHD, but your post got me into research mode! Players who only started one league game for Arsenal - now there's an elite group.
I think in 2014 Roy won an Arsenal in the Community award for his voluntary work on the Imagine Your Goals programme.

Thanks, Hoy, that's great. I love the idea of a one-game player from 1966 still being close to the club.

Author:  Decaf [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:01 pm ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
He was my fave player after Cesc, too bad he turned out to be a Judas. Oh what might have been had he stayed healthy...and if Wenger had made the team more competitive...


A few edits and that could be re-titled "Arsenal poor finishing 2010-11". Vela contriving to miss a sitter then tripping over his own feet is classic
:42laughter:

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:02 pm ]
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mcquilkie wrote:
DHD wrote:

Blimey - that's some shout, McQ. I don't recall Roy Pack at all. Stoke Newington boy as well. I must've seen him in the stiffs - I went to all those as well.

I have the Leeds programme somewhere - but I've no idea where.

I'd never heard of Roy Pack either, DHD, but your post got me into research mode! Players who only started one league game for Arsenal - now there's an elite group.

After a little research myself I was surprised to discover that Andy Cole only made two substitute appearances for us. I was sure he'd made some starts!

Author:  Decaf [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:03 pm ]
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warrior wrote:
DHD wrote:


Hey Rog - how the hell are you?

Quite often recently, it's been quite difficult to get on here. I get this message:

Yeah - I saw that one too. I will look into it again over the weekend.
I have a funeral to go to now. A very close musician friend of 30 years passed away at only 62. ;-(

My condolences, Rog.

Author:  mcquilkie [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:10 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
mcquilkie wrote:
I'd never heard of Roy Pack either, DHD, but your post got me into research mode! Players who only started one league game for Arsenal - now there's an elite group.

After a little research myself I was surprised to discover that Andy Cole only made two substitute appearances for us. I was sure he'd made some starts!

I checked Andy Cole as well, brom! I was at the Charity Shield match against Tottenham in 1991, when he came on as a late sub. He hit a shot into the side netting, and among a few thousand others I thought it had gone in and briefly went mental. Of course, the game ended 0-0. Over the years I've occasionally wondered whether his career at Highbury might have gone a bit differently with a Wembley winner against Spurs on his CV.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:15 pm ]
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mcquilkie wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
After a little research myself I was surprised to discover that Andy Cole only made two substitute appearances for us. I was sure he'd made some starts!

I checked Andy Cole as well, brom! I was at the Charity Shield match against Tottenham in 1991, when he came on as a late sub. He hit a shot into the side netting, and among a few thousand others I thought it had gone in and briefly went mental. Of course, the game ended 0-0. Over the years I've occasionally wondered whether his career at Highbury might have gone a bit differently with a Wembley winner against Spurs on his CV.

I remember that moment too, now you've reminded me McQ. He's definitely one that got away.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:30 pm ]
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mcquilkie wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
After a little research myself I was surprised to discover that Andy Cole only made two substitute appearances for us. I was sure he'd made some starts!

I checked Andy Cole as well, brom! I was at the Charity Shield match against Tottenham in 1991, when he came on as a late sub. He hit a shot into the side netting, and among a few thousand others I thought it had gone in and briefly went mental. Of course, the game ended 0-0. Over the years I've occasionally wondered whether his career at Highbury might have gone a bit differently with a Wembley winner against Spurs on his CV.


No it wouldn’t have made the blindest bit of difference.

He was caught going through the players suit pockets at half time taking stuff during a league match shortly after this and folklore has it the club put it to a vote amongst the players wether he should be sacked or kept on and the players voted to get rid of him which seems a little harsh but understandable. He was then sold. Pretty much all arsenal fans know this story well and next Kevin Campbell came through and that was that.

Author:  long time gooner [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:31 pm ]
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DHD wrote:
I predict the lowest ever attandence at a first team fixture tomorrow night - maybe as low as the 4544 at Highbury in 1966 vs Leeds. I was just out of this picture on the right.

I remember that night well, but wasn’t there.

Amazing to see the crowd scene. It looks like 100 years ago. Not many replica shirts there.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:25 pm ]
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Seems an unusually early start tonight. Maybe I just didn't notice but usually these matches seem to start around quarter to 8 or so local time.

Author:  long time gooner [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:46 pm ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
Seems an unusually early start tonight. Maybe I just didn't notice but usually these matches seem to start around quarter to 8 or so local time.

Clashed with Chelsea’s game. Hence the move. Apparently UEFA wanted us to start at 17:00 !

Author:  DHD [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:47 pm ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
Seems an unusually early start tonight. Maybe I just didn't notice but usually these matches seem to start around quarter to 8 or so local time.


I think it's because UEFA rules preclude the possibility of two games kicking off at the same time in the same city. Tossers. Clearly never heard of (or don't care about) a normal Saturday's fixture list. I think that because Chelsea have more brownie points than us in UEFA's wanky order of merit, they get to choose the normal English evening kick-off time while we start at a time most people will still be at work. Noswocs.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:45 pm ]
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Bloody hell! Özil is playing.

Author:  DHD [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:49 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
Bloody hell! Özil is playing.



....he still has time to do a runny poo.

Author:  DHD [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:56 pm ]
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...or break a fingernail.

Author:  john1 [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:45 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
Bloody hell! Özil is playing.


Yes but Lichsteiner though :1cry:

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:56 pm ]
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john1 wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
Bloody hell! Özil is playing.


Yes but Lichsteiner though :1cry:

I know. Glad it's a back 4 but would've preferred anyone but him at right back.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:00 pm ]
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Plenty of empty seats but a few more than 4,544 in.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:01 pm ]
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:22encouragement: :22encouragement:
Early goal, perfect start.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:36 pm ]
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Mooooossssstttaffffiii 2-0. I've always liked him :icon_mrgreen:

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:40 pm ]
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BATE are so poor, god knows how we managed to lose the first game.

Author:  dec [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:56 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
BATE are so poor, god knows how we managed to lose the first game.

We very nearly conceded this evening. We will need another goal.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:14 pm ]
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dec wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
BATE are so poor, god knows how we managed to lose the first game.

We very nearly conceded this evening. We will need another goal.

Yes, until we get a 3rd it's a bit precarious.
Kos off, let's hope it's just a precaution and nothing that'll keep him out.

Hleb on. Good player he was.
And Sokratis is back :21encouragement: 3-0

Author:  DHD [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:22 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
Plenty of empty seats but a few more than 4,544 in.


Agreed. Decent turnout considering.

Author:  DHD [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:46 pm ]
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Well that’s a win and as such, always welcome. But gauging the opposition, is anyone inspired?

Author:  dec [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:53 pm ]
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DHD wrote:
Well that’s a win and as such, always welcome. But gauging the opposition, is anyone inspired?

That's the problem with this competition until we finally play a decent side. They got the job done tonight. Not exactly free-flowing exuberant football but at least we managed to get through a game without the customary panic.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:04 pm ]
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DHD wrote:
Well that’s a win and as such, always welcome. But gauging the opposition, is anyone inspired?


Is anything about it inspring though DHD?

Thursday game at 5 o’clock, BATE Borisov, half empty ground, and our midfielders and strikers couldnt get on the scoresheet.

Where does this go ?

Author:  Bernard [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:36 pm ]
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My guess is there were somewhere between 40-45k in the ground. Lichtsteiner did quite well, including an important clearance off the line. Mustafi was impressive, and Özil was good enough to make me happy enough if he starts the next game.

Started the game at a good tempo leading to an early lead. Without being the perfect performance, overall it was easily enough.

Author:  old man of hoy [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:46 pm ]
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Özil was a couple of heads and shoulders above anybody else on the pitch. The one source of creativity in an average game, but sadly few of our guys knew where to position themselves to receive his assists. Iwobi is at the impressively athletic stage of his career - hopefully a little polish will soon give him more glitter.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:56 pm ]
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DHD wrote:
Well that’s a win and as such, always welcome. But gauging the opposition, is anyone inspired?

No, it wasn't inspiring, but it was never going to be. Job done however, and that was very important. Still a lot to play for this season.

Author:  socrates [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:21 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
DHD wrote:
Well that’s a win and as such, always welcome. But gauging the opposition, is anyone inspired?

No, it wasn't inspiring, but it was never going to be. Job done however, and that was very important. Still a lot to play for this season.


Yep, we got the job dome Brom.

Not brilliant but a bit more creativity with Özil pulling the strings.

Lichensteiner played well although he wasn't tested defensively.

Still have major concerns at how easily even poor sides are able to get in behind our defence. They had that one kicked of the line and a couple of other very decent chances in the first half.

As soon as we meet a good side we could well be in trouble.

Author:  Rich [ Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:19 am ]
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We definitely look better creating chances with Özil in the side and I’d play him v saints and Bournemouth as long as he is fit enough for the 90 mins.
I’d like us to play Aubameyang/Lacazette/Özil/ramsey but I don’t think Emery will do it

One thing we just cannot do is play 5 at the back or the 3 holding mids

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:43 am ]
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What are Wenger's 3 greatest victories?

Hmm...tough one for all 3 but the top I'd have to say

1. Real Madrid, 1-0 away CL Can't see much competition.
2. I'm gonna shock some people and say Liverpool 4-2, 2004 at Highbury because we had literally been knocked out of the FA Cup and CL in the span of a few days and down 2-1 at Hightime, CL loss fresh and now Invincibles season in jeopardy. The whole season about to collapse in one week. Chelsea had played Villa I think and had they won, we'd be in deep doo doo and Henry saved our Invincible season.
3. People may disagree with this one as well, some will say the 1-0 win at Old Trafford in 2002, but I'm going to say the win at Old Trafford in 1998. We had a horrible record at Old Trafford for several years prior. 1991 season I think if memory serves me right (and it often fails me). Before that win, a draw was seen as a victory at OT. Even at home we only beat them once since 1991 I think. It changed the whole mentality that we were good enough.

Honorable mention: 5-1 at Inter, 2002 win at OT to win the league. FA cup final in Vieira's last game. Win vs an excellent Barca side in the CL.

Author:  bubblechris [ Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:31 am ]
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This Sunday might prove something then. Southamptn rarly beat us at home iirc but their new manager got the better of us in the first game and could do the same this Sunday.

Hopefully not, I'll be there and thankfully rarely see them lose when I'm there.

Author:  Rich [ Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:33 pm ]
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We've drawn Rennes in the next round. Nice short travel distance which is always welcome, Rennes are 12th in the French league so we really should beat them comfortably.

Author:  Rich [ Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:50 pm ]
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Chelsea have been handed a 2 window transfer ban for illegal signing of young players. Real Madrid, Barca and Athelico all received bans for the same thing recently I think.

I'm sure Chelsea will appeal and either weasel their way out of it or have the ban delayed allowing them to stock up on players in the next window - just as Barca did

Author:  Rich [ Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:23 pm ]
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Lacazette banned for a further 2 games in Europa League. That seems ridiculously harsh. I get the red card, he’s being continuously fouled and pushes a hand/arm out in to a guys face who is behind him. But he’s been given the same ban as if he’d deliberately 2 footed and broken the leg of an opponent

Author:  Bernard [ Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:38 pm ]
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old man of hoy wrote:
Özil was a couple of heads and shoulders above anybody else on the pitch.

Özil was good but I think describing him as "a couple of heads and shoulders above anybody else on the pitch" is a little over the top. For once I felt today's Sun's marks out of 10 to players was reasonably fair. The highest scores were the 8s received by all of Xhaka (who they made man of the match despite him getting the same points as two others), Lichtsteiner and Mustafi. Other scores I recall were the 7 for Guendouzi and Özil's 6. Accepting that getting the same points does not necessarily mean players were exactly at the same level, I reckon they got the order of those five right. Having said that, personalIy I'd have given Özil 7, not 6, even though I felt Guendouzi was a bit better.

Author:  Bernard [ Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:45 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Lacazette banned for a further 2 games in Europa League.

Hopefully we shouldn't need Lacazette to beat Rennes. If we do, the ban shouldnt matter.

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