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Author:  Rich [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:53 am ]
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Bored wrote:
The Aubameyang goal was terrific. It must give the players a lot of confidence to score a team goal like that. Not just in each other but also in Arteta's methods.

Really liking these sorts of goals. Great way to deal with the high press. A couple of passes and we beat 7 Fulham players, then there is the space. Also it was fantastic to see that when Aubameyang got the ball we had 3-4 players racing in to the box. Bellerin, AMN and Xhaka all up there - it is those runs like in the community shield that gives Aubameyang the time to make the defender back off and for him to pick his spot

Author:  Rich [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:58 am ]
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Impressed with Elneny in the two games he's played. The system Arteta plays possibly suits him more. There is no doubt we need reinforcements in central midfield and it still may be he's moved on if those players come in. I was bemoaning the fact that we're still relying on Elneny but to be fair he's done ok so far. Under Arteta anyone who can follow his instructions and the game plan is getting in the side so Elneny is ahead of Willock, Torreira and Guendouzi.

I also moaned about the 5 at the back with 2 holding mids in general. Based on 7 defensive minded players and only 3 attackers not being enough for us going forward and causing us to struggle to link the midfield to the attack. Arteta's 5 at the back is more sophisticated than a basic formation. You only have to see the touch map of AMN, Bellerin and even Tierney to see we're more than capable of flooding the attacking half of the pitch with players.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:03 am ]
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Really pleased to see Willian and Gabriel get off to good starts. I know a lot of people were worried about Willian's wages and his age but if he's doing the business on the pitch that is all irrelevant. Willian may be 32 but his injury history is brilliant, he looks like he's kept himself in terrific shape so he doesn't seem like you're typical 32 year old footballer. We were getting a player who can deliver here and now in a league he's accustomed to. He also brings some much needed creativity.

The dilemma Arteta has is fitting all the players in. If we move to a back 4 at any point then I could see Willian as a No.10 with Aubameyang/Lacazette/Pépé. But whilst we play a back 3 one of those 4 needs to miss out

Author:  Rich [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:13 am ]
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Rumours of Brentford's David Raya coming in to replace Martinez. Raya would count as a home grown player even though he's Spanish. He was also left out of Brentford's first game of the season yesterday.

Arsenal usually play their No.2 in the cup games, but given how important getting back in the champions league is I think we should be using Leno in the Europa League. Certainly for the knock out stages

Author:  Rich [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:16 am ]
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Arsenal rumoured to have made a £22.5m bid for Odsonne Edouard. You'd have to assume Lacazette would be off if that went through. Lacazette only has 2 years left on his deal and there haven't been any noises about a new contract. I would assume Edouard would be on significantly less wage than Lacazette, is 7 years younger and would still retain a decent value.

If the club are looking at decreasing the wage bill and making money on players whilst we can then this would seem a sensible switch. The risk is we don't know how Edouard will adapt to moving up a level

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:44 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Arsenal rumoured to have made a £22.5m bid for Odsonne Edouard. You'd have to assume Lacazette would be off if that went through. Lacazette only has 2 years left on his deal and there haven't been any noises about a new contract. I would assume Edouard would be on significantly less wage than Lacazette, is 7 years younger and would still retain a decent value.

If the club are looking at decreasing the wage bill and making money on players whilst we can then this would seem a sensible switch. The risk is we don't know how Edouard will adapt to moving up a level

Did you see the Lacazette interview though ? He made it quite clear he doesn’t want to be sold.

I’d prefer to keep him personally I think he’s an under appreciated player

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:07 pm ]
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Most, if not all of us hated Leeds when they were in the top flight and probably took pleasure seeing them implode. But I gotta admit I was hoping they made it back to the PL. Chastened, phoenix from the ashes.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:23 pm ]
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Random music story.

https://www.iloveoldschoolmusic.com/diana-ross-cher-ended-their-friendship-over-a-man-most-cant-believe-they-even-wanted/?fbclid=IwAR28InR-it4D84His3MDFVo95Vu4UZF7_yhPnnT5Bfls5HuCrI8A-qJJ8fk

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:30 pm ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
Most, if not all of us hated Leeds when they were in the top flight and probably took pleasure seeing them implode. But I gotta admit I was hoping they made it back to the PL. Chastened, phoenix from the ashes.

Many of us will have hated them since well before then. The brand of anti-football of Don Revie introduced us sticks long in the mind.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:38 pm ]
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Anyone seen the new Christopher Nolan movie ?

Thought he over cooked it personally but a good watch never the less.

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:46 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Anyone seen the new Christopher Nolan movie ?

Thought he over cooked it personally but a good watch never the less.

The trailers look good. I quite fancy it.

But, sadly, it will be a long time before I would attend a cinema.

Author:  Darren [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:18 pm ]
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Martinez gone. £20m and 4 year deal. Villa have a good keeper and we have some money towards our midfield.

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:34 pm ]
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Darren wrote:
Martinez gone. £20m and 4 year deal. Villa have a good keeper and we have some money towards our midfield.

And towards a replacement number 2 keeper?

Author:  Rich [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:49 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Darren wrote:
Martinez gone. £20m and 4 year deal. Villa have a good keeper and we have some money towards our midfield.

And towards a replacement number 2 keeper?

Seen us linked with an Icelandic GK from Dijon for a very low fee £2m or so.

Raja is rumoured to cost £10m+. Depends how much of a risk we want to take in order to secure our first choice midfield target(s)

Author:  Rich [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:50 pm ]
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Everton should be 1-0 up v spurs. Richarlison goes round the GK, tight angle and a defender covering the line and he shoots wild and high - but standing completely free in the 6 yard box is Calvert-Lewin, a simple square pass from Richarlison and he taps it in an empty net - get your head up!

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:42 pm ]
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Spuds 0 Everton 1

Final score. Expecting Everton to have a good season, and hopefully the exact opposite for Maureen's boys.

Author:  bubblechris [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:22 pm ]
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:42laughter: Spurs lose :1laughter:
:21encouragement:

Author:  john1 [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:25 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote:
:42laughter: Spurs lose :1laughter:
:21encouragement:


Sometimes, just sometimes, we are in total agreement.

:21encouragement:

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:42 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote:
:42laughter: Spurs lose :1laughter:
:21encouragement:

Fans in meltdown on TalkShite :1laughter:

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:22 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Anyone seen the new Christopher Nolan movie ?

Thought he over cooked it personally but a good watch never the less.

The trailers look good. I quite fancy it.

But, sadly, it will be a long time before I would attend a cinema.


I'm sorry to hear this mate

I Understand the feeling and know where you are. I'm probably reckless a little in as much as I've never been to concerned about my health. Recently I learned I'm not indestructible

We will get through this I promise

Author:  Parkerknoll Gooner [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:21 pm ]
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C - Chelsea
I - Inter Milan
R - Real Madrid
C - Chelsea
U - United
S - Spurs

Ladies and Gents.... Jose Mourinho


Pinched from BBC, I thought it was funny anyway.

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:44 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Recently I learned I'm not indestructible

Me too.

Good luck with yours.

Author:  Ash [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:26 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Ok I’m reminding you of this one dude when it happens :laughing7:

Even the BT pundits today said it was going to happen. Also when Leno needs to get rested “why the F did we let Martinez go!” Etc etc

Maybe Ash himself will now feel obliged to keep quiet about the next Leno boo boo. But he’s not the only possible candidate.


I will feel obliged to do nothing cheeky sod, if an Arsenal footballer makes a mistake for Arsenal he may get criticised on the Gleiber forum, and I might even criticise him myself, feels par for the course. If Leno makes the odd mistake what I will not be doing, and neither I’d wager will anyone else be, is pining for Martinez. Although I might if only to wind you up. Fair warning.

Author:  Ash [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:35 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Anyone seen the new Christopher Nolan movie ?

Thought he over cooked it personally but a good watch never the less.


Saw it Friday, bizarre to be so spaced out with compulsory mask wearing after being in the pub, which was a zoo.

Found the film slightly frustrating viewing, apart from the “mind blowingness”, which I’m not sure about at all, it seemed beset with what I call grim acting, everyone fairly emotionless and being all gruff. Although that’s a bit Nolan. Had me talking about the film and thinking about it afterwards so perhaps thought provoking at least.

Author:  Zed [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:29 pm ]
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Parkerknoll Gooner wrote:
C - Chelsea
I - Inter Milan
R - Real Madrid
C - Chelsea
U - United
S - Spurs

Ladies and Gents.... Jose Mourinho


Pinched from BBC, I thought it was funny anyway.

Bet Mourhino misses those summer club tours he took to LA. :1laughter:

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:31 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Anyone seen the new Christopher Nolan movie ?

Thought he over cooked it personally but a good watch never the less.


Saw it Friday, bizarre to be so spaced out with compulsory mask wearing after being in the pub, which was a zoo.

Found the film slightly frustrating viewing, apart from the “mind blowingness”, which I’m not sure about at all, it seemed beset with what I call grim acting, everyone fairly emotionless and being all gruff. Although that’s a bit Nolan. Had me talking about the film and thinking about it afterwards so perhaps thought provoking at least.


Haha yeah this is similar to my experience, the pre film pint went slightly adrift as I didn’t feel encouraged to walk into a weatherspoons packed with people not distancing and went round the corner instead

You’ve nailed the film too, its overcooked this time with too much moody dialogue. I think Nolan is brilliant and Dunkirk very good but this was more Emery than Arteta I felt

Author:  Zed [ Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:43 pm ]
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Speaking of LA, tonight is Kroenke's LA Rams v Dallas Cowboys game at his new $5B Sofi stadium showpiece. Stan just did a ribbon cutting to open the stadium this past Tuesday. Game to be played behind closed doors, no fans. Only media and certain NFL personnel, as well as Stan's ally, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to attend.

Author:  old man of hoy [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:26 am ]
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long time gooner wrote:
AmericanGooner wrote:
Most, if not all of us hated Leeds when they were in the top flight and probably took pleasure seeing them implode. But I gotta admit I was hoping they made it back to the PL. Chastened, phoenix from the ashes.

Many of us will have hated them since well before then. The brand of anti-football of Don Revie introduced us sticks long in the mind.
A team of two faces back then? Mostly teamwork and skill of the highest order, but sometimes the most cynical outfit ever seen in top level English football.

Author:  gooner7 [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:31 am ]
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Darren wrote:
Martinez gone. £20m and 4 year deal. Villa have a good keeper and we have some money towards our midfield.


All the best to him, except when they play Arsenal

Author:  gooner7 [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:37 am ]
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Good to see Spurs lose

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:36 am ]
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Ash wrote:
Bernard wrote:
Maybe Ash himself will now feel obliged to keep quiet about the next Leno boo boo. But he’s not the only possible candidate.


I will feel obliged to do nothing cheeky sod, if an Arsenal footballer makes a mistake for Arsenal he may get criticised on the Gleiber forum, and I might even criticise him myself, feels par for the course. If Leno makes the odd mistake what I will not be doing, and neither I’d wager will anyone else be, is pining for Martinez. Although I might if only to wind you up. Fair warning.

Good on you Ash. I will not give the same undertaking. It will depend on the mistake and how crucial it is. Down the track Leno gets injured it might get very interesting at our club.

Author:  Bernard [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:28 am ]
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Ash wrote:
If Leno makes the odd mistake what I will not be doing, and neither I’d wager will anyone else.

Having just read the last post by Gaz from Oz, are you sure about the ‘neither I’d wager will anyone else’ comment?

Author:  Bernard [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:13 am ]
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Arsenal.com are saying that It’s hoped Martinelli can return to full training by the end of the calendar year. So I guess he won’t be playing until January at the earliest, more likely February. That’s a long injury.

Author:  Ash [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:56 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
Ash wrote:
If Leno makes the odd mistake what I will not be doing, and neither I’d wager will anyone else.

Having just read the last post by Gaz from Oz, are you sure about the ‘neither I’d wager will anyone else’ comment?


Well obviously Gaz was always going to be an anomaly... :laughing7:

Author:  tomc [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:58 am ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
Ash wrote:

I will feel obliged to do nothing cheeky sod, if an Arsenal footballer makes a mistake for Arsenal he may get criticised on the Gleiber forum, and I might even criticise him myself, feels par for the course. If Leno makes the odd mistake what I will not be doing, and neither I’d wager will anyone else be, is pining for Martinez. Although I might if only to wind you up. Fair warning.

Good on you Ash. I will not give the same undertaking. It will depend on the mistake and how crucial it is. Down the track Leno gets injured it might get very interesting at our club.

Not sure what else the club was supposed to do in this situation. If Martinez wanted an assurance that he was going to be No.1 and Arteta wasn't prepared to give him that assurance, he was always going to leave. In an ideal world it would be great if he'd stayed and we had two top drawer goalkeepers in the event of one of them getting injured, but that was never going to happen. All Arteta can do now is use some of the Martinez money to sign a competent goalie who is prepared to be No.2 to Leno.

Author:  john1 [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:17 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
Arsenal.com are saying that It’s hoped Martinelli can return to full training by the end of the calendar year. So I guess he won’t be playing until January at the earliest, more likely February. That’s a long injury.


Always worrying when a youngster gets an injury that keeps him out for so long.

Author:  warrior [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:27 am ]
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Neymar makes racism allegation as PSG's game against Marseille ends with brawl and five red cards

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/14/foot ... index.html

Author:  Ash [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:28 am ]
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john1 wrote:
Bernard wrote:
Arsenal.com are saying that It’s hoped Martinelli can return to full training by the end of the calendar year. So I guess he won’t be playing until January at the earliest, more likely February. That’s a long injury.


Always worrying when a youngster gets an injury that keeps him out for so long.


Absolutely, bit worrying. What will that be 6 months? A fair few what-could-have-been Wilshere stories out there, but Serge Gnabry gives me a bit of hope.

Author:  old man of hoy [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:43 pm ]
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tomc wrote:
Not sure what else the club was supposed to do in this situation. If Martinez wanted an assurance that he was going to be No.1 and Arteta wasn't prepared to give him that assurance, he was always going to leave. In an ideal world it would be great if he'd stayed and we had two top drawer goalkeepers in the event of one of them getting injured, but that was never going to happen. All Arteta can do now is use some of the Martinez money to sign a competent goalie who is prepared to be No.2 to Leno.

Yes, I agree. At his age Martinez wanting to be first choice is completely understandable, so if that guarantee can't be met then best for all concerned that he takes the next step in his career at a good club, which Villa is. If we are honest, until he came in for the injured Leno and did well, there were very few fans or pundits suggesting Martinez was vital to our future. Anyway, if he improves even more in his next move, there is still a chance for him to return to us one day. His connection with Arsenal is a strong one.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:16 pm ]
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old man of hoy wrote:
long time gooner wrote:
Many of us will have hated them since well before then. The brand of anti-football of Don Revie introduced us sticks long in the mind.
A team of two faces back then? Mostly teamwork and skill of the highest order, but sometimes the most cynical outfit ever seen in top level English football.


During the lock down I looked at a lot of clubs playing late 60s into the '70s. I specifically looked at the Leeds side in the early to mid 70s and some matches they were class, powerful but skillful. Then a few matches, and it seemed to be against sides that could match them in skill (Liverpool, and others) they got stuck in early and often. The referee seemed to expect it and some things that would have been a sending off or a yellow now were a free kick. Nasty game at times in some of those old clips.

Maybe I have them pegged wrong but the games I saw it seemed like if they could outclass you they could and if they couldn't they'd kick you and with their skill get a goal and get stuck in so you don't equalize. Maybe I'm being too simplistic. The Revie/Clough interview was surreal.

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