thofman wrote:
long time gooner wrote:
For a “financially sensible package” according to the German club.
Hmm.
Hmm.
But no mention of how much they want from Arsenal to take him..?
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| Author: | DHD [ Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:32 pm ] |
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Wouldn't have been my first choice but all hail Big Mig. A bit like Brexit, we'll all be fans now that the decision has been confirmed. Won't we? Having said that, I can't help reflecting that the last manager of that age whom we appointed with great credentials but little or no experience was Billy Wright. That didn't go particularly well. |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:41 pm ] |
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Interesting comment from Arteta that he will be ejecting players if they aren’t bought into the project and have the wrong personalities. Sounds like he’s under no illusions he needs to eject certain players out of the club to be successful. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:04 pm ] |
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Not my first choice but I'm behind him 100 percent and hope I am proven wrong. It's not so much I think he isn't capable but that we should have gotten someone else. But here we are. The club has acted swiftly and that gives me some semblance of hope for the club. 5 years ago, we'd have languished with bad results. Maybe the club and by the club I mean Kroenke is the losss of the money we are getting from the Europa league. In any event a historic start. He manages against a club he's seen as a legend. Couldn't write a plot better. Good luck. And Mikel, its okay not to celebrate too much if you win, out of respect. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:15 pm ] |
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In other news, retired Republican congressman Jeff Flake says his unofficial polling of his former colleagues in the legislature says if a secret vote was given, 35 Republicans would vote to convict. So, Trump stays not because his own party members truly feel he is innocent, but because they fear him and are too cowardly to oppose him. This Republic is dead. Rotted from the inside, laughed at (rightfully) by its closest allies and at least 45% of its populace more than willing to forego any sense of ethics, morality and legality to support someone who has far more in common with Franco than he does with Benjamin Franklin. And do so with zealotry that will remind those of beer halls in the early 1930s in Germany with brown shirted men. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Outhk9KSnUo&t=5s |
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| Author: | grantyboy [ Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:17 pm ] |
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TOP GUN wrote: Interesting comment from Arteta that he will be ejecting players if they aren’t bought into the project and have the wrong personalities. Sounds like he’s under no illusions he needs to eject certain players out of the club to be successful. Sounds like a new manager trying to set expectations and lets see if he's able to break the likely cliques of dissent. I'm not encouraged by his Özil comment. |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:37 pm ] |
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grantyboy wrote: TOP GUN wrote: Interesting comment from Arteta that he will be ejecting players if they aren’t bought into the project and have the wrong personalities. Sounds like he’s under no illusions he needs to eject certain players out of the club to be successful. Sounds like a new manager trying to set expectations and lets see if he's able to break the likely cliques of dissent. I'm not encouraged by his Özil comment. No Özil is done for !!!!! He makes more than treble our new managers weekly wage and puts zero effort in. That’s a diplomatic answer. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:42 pm ] |
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I don't know but only from what I'm told is that Graham was a vocal coach. Get on players if he had to. Wenger wasn't, Emery wasn't. Seems like Arteta will be a bit more vocal. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:43 pm ] |
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At the risk of sounding xenophobic, I am surprised his accent is as strong as it is with so many years in the country but I'm attributing part of it to probably speaking constant spanish to Pep. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50873691 |
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| Author: | thofman [ Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:02 pm ] |
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long time gooner wrote: david.d wrote: ]It sure has Tom! Just read Hertha Berlin are interested in Xhaka in January. Let it be true For a “financially sensible package” according to the German club. Hmm. But no mention of how much they want from Arsenal to take him..? |
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| Author: | Gaz from Oz [ Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:09 pm ] |
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AmericanGooner wrote: gooner7 wrote: Well, he kept his mouth shut for more than a year. And now he is back quacking again. I wouldn't call him a prick, just a bitter man. I'm going to say it. Yes, I think Wenger is happy Arsenal aren't doing well after he was forced out. I think he is very bitter about how he got forced out and is taking hidden pleasure of it all. I think he feels (in his mind) somewhat vindicated that the reasons for Arsenal's malaise wasn't him but lied elsewhere. Yes, I said it. This is hard for me. But I think you are correct. Okay now I have hit rock bottom personally. I am starting to agree with AG. |
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| Author: | thofman [ Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:10 pm ] |
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kiwipete wrote: socrates wrote: Hi TG, I've said this many times, over the past few years Liverpool have created the perfect storm, recruited a top manager whilst buying and selling brilliantly. Who would have thought that Mané, Salah and Firmino would turn out to be the worldbeaters they have. Selling Coutinho for £120m and buying a worldclass goalkeeper and CB has proved a masterstroke. Add that touch of luck at the right times that everybody needs and it is a potent mix. Not forgetting Klopp also bought Oxlade Chamberlain who some on this very forum considered the greatest player to ever don an Arsenal shirt . Didn't Ox take a substantial paycut to get the hell away from Wenger's quicksand to Jurgen's verdant braes..? |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:50 pm ] |
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thofman wrote: long time gooner wrote: For a “financially sensible package” according to the German club. Hmm. But no mention of how much they want from Arsenal to take him..?
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:55 am ] |
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I'll know if Arteta is the right person if Mustafi is in an Arsenal kit at kick off next season. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:32 am ] |
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Where is the scene where he tells Mustafi the only Arsenal kit he's going to wear with his name again is the one he buys at the club gift shop? Where is the scene he hugs Hodd as well? |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:34 am ] |
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Isn't this technically our 4th manager in less than 3 years? I hope we don't become Newcastle, Palace, West Ham, take your pick. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:38 am ] |
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Uncut Gems. Must see movie. Adam Sandler is great in it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTfJp2Ts9X8&t=3s |
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| Author: | warrior [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:28 am ] |
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thofman wrote: long time gooner wrote: For a “financially sensible package” according to the German club. Hmm. But no mention of how much they want from Arsenal to take him..? Maybe we could all chip in ? |
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| Author: | warrior [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:31 am ] |
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gooner7 wrote: Well, he kept his mouth shut for more than a year. And now he is back quacking again. I wouldn't call him a prick, just a bitter man. Speaking of bitter old men ... Jose Mourinho aims subtle swipe at Arsenal over Mikel Arteta appointment https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/20/jose-mou ... -11943354/ |
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| Author: | gooner7 [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:42 am ] |
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"New broom sweeps clean" I wonder how thorough Arteta will sweep. Hopefully, he gives more game time to the younger players. Blood them in properly, instead of chucking them in without a proper coaching plan. Freddie, with hands tied behind his back, had no choice but to mix and match. Unfortunately, it was poorly mixed and badly matched. Emery simply had no support for his plans, if there ever was one. I think the senior players had botched it up for both of them, and amongst them, there was no synergy nor any intent to synergise. |
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| Author: | gooner7 [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:13 am ] |
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warrior wrote: gooner7 wrote: Well, he kept his mouth shut for more than a year. And now he is back quacking again. I wouldn't call him a prick, just a bitter man. Speaking of bitter old men ... Jose Mourinho aims subtle swipe at Arsenal over Mikel Arteta appointment https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/20/jose-mou ... -11943354/ Both experienced tremendous successes in their prime. But both have fallen from their prime. Thus, their bitterness now. Moral of the story - Never reach your prime
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| Author: | gooner7 [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:15 am ] |
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AmericanGooner wrote: Uncut Gems. Must see movie. Adam Sandler is great in it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTfJp2Ts9X8&t=3s Good to see Sandler venture out of his normal comedy movies. Thanks AG, will catch it when it comes to our shores. |
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| Author: | bubblechris [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:39 am ] |
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thofman wrote: long time gooner wrote: For a “financially sensible package” according to the German club. Hmm. But no mention of how much they want from Arsenal to take him..? Don't you mean how much they want from us to take him? 
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| Author: | kiwipete [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:03 am ] |
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TOP GUN wrote: Yeah right Mikel! Like those 2 dickheads know the requirements for being successful at football! Wilts is right, don’t expect too much folks I totally disagree ....... just been skyping with my son who lives in Copenhagen , he has been giving me all the good oil , reckons Arteta is the man . Has already given the team a pep talk on what he expects . The son's take on things has got me all inspired and enthused . I think Everton will still beat us with the Ferguson factor trumping Ljungberrg's wet approach but I expect major changes are a - comiing 
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| Author: | kiwipete [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:17 am ] |
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thofman wrote: Didn't Ox take a substantial paycut to get the hell away from Wenger's quicksand to Jurgen's verdant braes..? No doubt Thofman ...that would make perfect sense ... but my comment was pitched at that lovable litte ret-ard Socrates ..... whose love of the Ox put Bernard's fixation with Mertesacker and Clichy well in the shade . |
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| Author: | kiwipete [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:21 am ] |
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Decaf wrote: kiwipete wrote:  well Ash ..... four are black ...not sure what Guendouzi is classified as .I think 'midfielder'. headless chicken |
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| Author: | Gunfire [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:52 am ] |
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Greeny wrote: https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/19/arsene-wenger-takes-swipe-arsenal-compares-club-liverpool-11937233/ I mean really, is there a bigger *%^@ in World Football than this old man? wenger wrote: When I left the club it was in a very strong financial position and they bought many players in between. They haven’t all worked out, but it’s not a question of time. The change can be very efficient and happen quickly. It’s about making the right decisions, that’s what its about in football. We speak about Liverpool and their success. Of course they have a great manager but you have to say that Liverpool in the last three or four years, they bought the right players. What a prick Piss off troll. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:04 am ] |
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Well, it didn't take long for Mourinho to go back to type. https://www.givemesport.com/1531563-jos ... utoplay=on |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:05 am ] |
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Greeny wrote: COYG!  Thanks for posting the Athletic article, interesting read. I thought Arteta played his press conference and first day at Arsenal very well yesterday. Possibly one of the first people in power at arsenal who you believe really understands what the problem has been for the last 10 years. |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:54 am ] |
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Our new goalkeeping coach is inaki Cana from Brentford. All our coaching appointments are from people working within British football already |
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| Author: | Gaz from Oz [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:58 am ] |
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The team I just saw on my screen is a bit of a joke really. Saka at RB, Chambers again Nelson. No Guendouzi. I’m going to bed & will watch it in the morning. |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:05 pm ] |
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Super read. Thanks for that Greeny. Lots of cause for optimism there despite the complete absence of experience as being the main man. Fingers crossed. |
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| Author: | Decaf [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:08 pm ] |
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AmericanGooner wrote: I don't know but only from what I'm told is that Graham was a vocal coach. Interesting. I didn't know he was musical. |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:12 pm ] |
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Interesting aside from Ljungberg in his BT Sport pre-match interview as he says Özil is injured but adds: “Mesut wouldn’t have been in the squad anyway given what happened in the last game.” Suggests he would have dropped Özil for show of dissent after being substituted v City. It really is time for Özil to *%^@ off |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:14 pm ] |
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Gaz from Oz wrote: The team I just saw on my screen is a bit of a joke really. Saka at RB, Chambers again Nelson. No Guendouzi. I’m going to bed & will watch it in the morning. It is For me it looks like Freddie is sticking 2 fingers up at some of the players who let him down whilst he was in charge He’s picked Xhaka and Torreira though which never works |
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| Author: | Decaf [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:14 pm ] |
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Greeny wrote: Gaz from Oz wrote: The team I just saw on my screen is a bit of a joke really. Saka at RB, Chambers again Nelson. No Guendouzi. I’m going to bed & will watch it in the morning. Not sure what formation he's going with, but hopefully everyone in the starting XI will have understood they are playing for their futures at The Arsenal. Let's see who wants to be there. Also, all the fullbacks are injured, so hopefully the team has been picked from the players that want to be here, and I just hope the players know what they have to do. Two actual defenders plus Rowe instead of Özil. It should be fun anyway! Links anyone? |
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| Author: | socrates [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:16 pm ] |
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Wow, that's some team Freddies picked. |
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| Author: | Decaf [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:17 pm ] |
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long time gooner wrote: Super read. Thanks for that Greeny. Lots of cause for optimism there despite the complete absence of experience as being the main man. Fingers crossed. And toes. |
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| Author: | socrates [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:18 pm ] |
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Decaf wrote: Greeny wrote: Not sure what formation he's going with, but hopefully everyone in the starting XI will have understood they are playing for their futures at The Arsenal. Let's see who wants to be there. Also, all the fullbacks are injured, so hopefully the team has been picked from the players that want to be here, and I just hope the players know what they have to do. Two actual defenders plus Rowe instead of Özil. It should be fun anyway! Links anyone? Try some of these Decaf. http://vipboxe.com/soccer http://vipboxing.top/soccer/watch-397a6 ... 1838632587 |
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| Author: | Decaf [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:19 pm ] |
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socrates wrote: Wow, that's some team Freddies picked. Could be what he wanted to do all along (injuries aside of course). I can't imagine he was picking Özil from conviction! |
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| Author: | Decaf [ Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:21 pm ] |
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TOP GUN wrote: Gaz from Oz wrote: The team I just saw on my screen is a bit of a joke really. Saka at RB, Chambers again Nelson. No Guendouzi. I’m going to bed & will watch it in the morning. It is For me it looks like Freddie is sticking 2 fingers up at some of the players who let him down whilst he was in charge He’s picked Xhaka and Torreira though which never works Problem is that neither does Torreira and Guendouzi. I think Xhaka is a good call here. |
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