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Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:24 pm ]
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b%*&s%*^ Nani, and we get a yellow. BS ref
Author:  long time gooner [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:28 pm ]
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Welbeck looking to be in some trouble. Taken a nasty knock.
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:31 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Welbeck looking to be in some trouble. Taken a nasty knock.


I think the standing defender did a deliberate knock at Welbeck's foot, as he was going down.
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:32 pm ]
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Goonie wrote:
gooner7 wrote:
Aubameyang seems to have lost his mojo and spirit.


???? He's our October player of the month.


Let's see how our player of the month does.
Author:  long time gooner [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:33 pm ]
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gooner7 wrote:
long time gooner wrote:
Welbeck looking to be in some trouble. Taken a nasty knock.


I think the standing defender did a deliberate knock at Welbeck's foot, as he was going down.

Is that it? I couldn’t work it out. Looked innocuous at first
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:33 pm ]
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gooner7 wrote:
Oh yes, our dear forgotten Jenkinson starts too. Hope he does very well. He needs a big boost.


Good over lapping run, but terrible cross
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:35 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
gooner7 wrote:

I think the standing defender did a deliberate knock at Welbeck's foot, as he was going down.

Is that it? I couldn’t work it out. Looked innocuous at first


They should replay it. I believe that was what happened. It was like kicking at speed onto a standing steel pole. The Sporting players are making niggly fouls but the ref is not calling them out.
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:44 pm ]
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About time ref, dish it to them
Author:  Rich [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:53 pm ]
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If Welbeck is out for a long time I think we need to buy a replacement in January. None of this nonsense we did before where we sat on our hands and jut waited for the injured player to come back - Welbeck isn’t our player in 8 months so go and buy his replacement in jan.
It is too much to have just Lacazette and Aubameyang as senior strikers for the rest of the season. We need the versatility of a player who can play wide in a front 3 or play the lone striker role
Author:  Rich [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:02 pm ]
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The best thing for Welbeck is that is just a simple break of the leg - in comparison to other serious injuries it could be. He could be back in 2 months with a leg break. If it’s knee, ankle or ligaments it is usually a lot longer than a ‘normal’ break
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:09 pm ]
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Mkhitaryan making a good account of himself today
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:10 pm ]
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Speedy recovery Welbeck
Author:  Rich [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:26 pm ]
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Seen an image of the Welbeck injury. His ankle is turned the opposite direction. Broken or dislocated or both for sure. I think that is a season ender
Author:  long time gooner [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:30 pm ]
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Nani has now switched roles. He’s now become the ref. Annoying git.
Author:  long time gooner [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:34 pm ]
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Bollo. Liechesteiner looks like he’s done his hamstring. Expensive game here.
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:34 pm ]
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Oh no, Lichsteiner injured now.
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:35 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Nani has now switched roles. He’s now become the ref. Annoying git.


Nani is indeed an annoying git
Author:  Rich [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:35 pm ]
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Guendouzi just gave Nani a fair whack. Nani deserved it.
Lichtsteiner chasing a ball pulled up lame, Nani picked up the ball and we know you play to the whistle but when you’ve seen your opponent pull up as Lichtsteiner had to you put it out, you know he isn’t faking it, you don’t go and dribble and attack the space he’s now left
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:48 pm ]
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I like the new Ramsey. He is bringing the ball forward more than sideway and back passes nowadays. Coached or instructed byEmery to play this way?
Author:  Rich [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:48 pm ]
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Totally dominated but only 2 shots on target. Final ball or final shot has been quite poor today. Too many skied crosses or shots
Author:  long time gooner [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:49 pm ]
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Interesting. Mathieu sent off. Aubameyang forced the issue.
Author:  Rich [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:50 pm ]
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Red card for their Cb. Clear one, Aubameyang sniffed out a back pass and was quicker and in on the gk and was surged down, unfortunately for us just outside the penalty area. 3 mins and a dangerous free kick
Author:  Rich [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:51 pm ]
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Another one skied
Author:  long time gooner [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:51 pm ]
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Oh dear. Horrible resultant free kick. It’s becoming one of those nights.
Author:  Rich [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:53 pm ]
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Ramsey with so many chances to cross, goes on a lazy run and tries a 1 in 10 trick, goes out for a goal kick. Playing 10 men you have to load the box, make them defend it you’ll more than likely just recycle it straight back in there
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:53 pm ]
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gooner7 wrote:
I like the new Ramsey. He is bringing the ball forward more than sideway and back passes nowadays. Coached or instructed byEmery to play this way?


After praising him, he decided to make that bad foray in the penalty area. Pass it in!
Author:  long time gooner [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:56 pm ]
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Sporting look to have been coached by Tony Pulis..
Author:  Rich [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:59 pm ]
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Last minute corner and Mkhitaryan fires it so far long. He did that with a free kick. It is painful to see any professionals do that. A player has a huge target zone to hit from a corner and he has pverhit a 40 yard ball by 20 yards. Really really bad
Author:  Rich [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:08 pm ]
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Qualification done, would have been nice to seal the top spot but I think I'm right in saying we only need another win to do that as our head to head is better v Sporting.
Europa group stage is all about getting through and resting players - two injuries is not great. Welbeck possibly looks a season ender, Lichsteiner probably a 3 week hamstring - good timing to get AMN back who can provide some very useful multi positional cover.

The general play was ok tonight, we dominated, never looked in any trouble in defence. The poor part was the play in the final 3rd. Too many nearly moments and not enough quality with the final pass or final shot.

Players like Iwobi and Mkhitaryan need to improve their goal tallies and part of that is their confidence in front of goal, only 1 goal each this season. Iwobi has come on loads this year but I still don't think he believes he's going to score when he has a chance of a shot.
Author:  Ash [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:08 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Last minute corner and Mkhitaryan fires it so far long. He did that with a free kick. It is painful to see any professionals do that. A player has a huge target zone to hit from a corner and he has pverhit a 40 yard ball by 20 yards. Really really bad


It happens enough, that unless you’re a corner specialist, it seems like one of those things that just happens sometimes. Annoying though.

We got the qualification, but really it was bound to happen sooner or later. The lacklustre final ball and finishing plus injury to Welbeck and Lichtsteiner make it a bad night for us all in all. Frustrating to watch, may Nani catch his scrotum in a zipper and drop his phone on his face in bed.

That we can take our foot off the gas for the remaining easy games and play Nketiah is the only positive.
Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:13 pm ]
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Couple of things resolved from tonight game IMO. Withdraw any offer to Wellbeck of a new contract- spends too much time injured to be of any use to the club & Ramsay can go as well. We need cover at the back to replace Monreal, Leichensteiner & cover for Bellerin. Start looking now for long term replacements.

The other thing is the old failings of breaking down real defensive performances by our opponents still persist. Emery has done well but we have a long way to go.
Author:  Goonie [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:14 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
Rich wrote:
Last minute corner and Mkhitaryan fires it so far long. He did that with a free kick. It is painful to see any professionals do that. A player has a huge target zone to hit from a corner and he has pverhit a 40 yard ball by 20 yards. Really really bad


It happens enough, that unless you’re a corner specialist, it seems like one of those things that just happens sometimes. Annoying though.

We got the qualification, but really it was bound to happen sooner or later. The lacklustre final ball and finishing plus injury to Welbeck and Lichtsteiner make it a bad night for us all in all. Frustrating to watch, may Nani catch his scrotum in a zipper and drop his phone on his face in bed.

That we can take our foot off the gas for the remaining easy games and play Nketiah is the only positive.


If it's a long term injury for Welbeck, could well be the end of his Arsenal career. Would the club offer him a new contract like they did Cazorla? Let's see what Nketiah can do... at least Emery have time to decide whether to buy another forward or not in Jan.
Author:  Ash [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:20 pm ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
Couple of things resolved from tonight game IMO. Withdraw any offer to Wellbeck of a new contract- spends too much time injured to be of any use to the club & Ramsay can go as well. We need cover at the back to replace Monreal, Leichensteiner & cover for Bellerin. Start looking now for long term replacements.

The other thing is the old failings of breaking down real defensive performances by our opponents still persist. Emery has done well but we have a long way to go.


It’s hard to assess whether this was us failing to break a team down, obviously we did fail to break them down, or whether you can say we were missing Özil Lacazette Torreira Bellerin Leno(although that’s a stretch) and they would have made the difference. But I agree there was enough there to get the win and with better final balls and set pieces we would have given ourselves a far better shot at it.

Edit:And Xhaka!
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:46 pm ]
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Alas, Smith-Rowe is not yet there, as evidenced from today's game. He could not do much in his midfield role. Part of it was the fouls (unseen by ref, or preference to ignore) from the Sporting players to break up play. The other part is his game did not match his confidence.

Iwobi couldn't carry the team today. With Özil out, He knew it was up to him. He tried but just could not.

Ramsey was playing for a job offer, from elsewhere.

Mkhitaryan was the most effective of the lot, but his final ball isn't.

Aubameyang didn't live up to his "player of the month" level.

Borrowing from an old phrase, "we played with the handbrake on" :1laughter: :20hospitals: :42laughter:
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:48 pm ]
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https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... g-15391493

from Keown, not me :42laughter:
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:51 pm ]
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https://www.caughtoffside.com/2018/11/0 ... -sporting/

what I've been saying for a long time too

he is really a waste of space, and not half as hard working as Alexis
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:52 pm ]
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After 13 straight wins, it is 3 straight draws, 10 more to come?
Author:  TOP GUN [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:41 pm ]
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gooner7 wrote:
https://www.caughtoffside.com/2018/11/08/arsenal-fans-fume-at-henrikh-mkhitaryan-form-vs-sporting/

what I've been saying for a long time too

he is really a waste of space, and not half as hard working as Alexis


I think he flatters to deceive. He can sometime move he ball around quite nicely but he seems to lack that final assist and doesn’t get himself into scoring positions enough.
Author:  AmericanGooner [ Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:06 am ]
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We didn't lose. 3 straight draws and 2 of them we outplayed the opposition and deserved the win. I'll take that kind of draw any day of the week if we have to draw.

We threw together a bunch of players who didn't play together and it was like one of our old league cup matches when we played the kids. What I liked about Emery was he was going to make sure they earned their draw and we had opportunities. Unfortunately it wasn't our day (or rather night). We will go through and we look good in the competition. No problems there.
Author:  AmericanGooner [ Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:29 am ]
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I know this won't be popular but with Welbeck out and Chelsea rumored to be looking to get rid of Giroud despite what the manager says, why not bring him back for a year or two? He's 31. Always been a great sub off the bench.

I still think we can do much better on the right than Mhykatairan. His last two matches he's been better than his start with us but I don't think he'll do any better. Either one of the younger players or a much better winger.
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