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Author:  Zed [ Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:08 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
bubblechris wrote:
Can you explain what you mean?

It's not for me to speak for Zed but Bloomberg name Gazidis as PSG's CEO from September.

Well Bernard & Bubble, Bloomberg shows Gazidis could be an AC Milan CEO in Sept 2018, according to his profile. Maybe or maybe not. No, not PSG. Josh K to be Arse CEO possibly if this Gazidis appointment is true at AC Milan.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:09 pm ]
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Ramsey to Chelsea

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... amsey.html

Author:  Bernard [ Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:19 pm ]
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Zed wrote:
Bernard wrote:
It's not for me to speak for Zed but Bloomberg name Gazidis as PSG's CEO from September.

Well Bernard & Bubble, Bloomberg shows Gazidis could be an AC Milan CEO in Sept 2018, according to his profile. Maybe or maybe not. No, not PSG. Josh K to be Arse CEO possibly if this Gazidis appointment is true at AC Milan.

Yes, my mistake. I knew it was showing Gazidis as Milan's CEO from September. I was just watching the game against PSG when writing the post, and carelessly wrote PSG instead of Milan because they were obviously in my mind. I didn't realise I had until I read your post just now. I thought I'd put Milan. Apologies.

Author:  Ash [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:27 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:


Seemingly doing what all players do delaying any talks as a power play. The longer it goes on it’s just more win-win for Ramsey. Hoping for Özil-type money from Arsenal or payday with a move. I’d bite Chelsea’s hand off for £30 tbh. Has he been more than a bit part over the last 3 years really?

Also was Guendouzi really 8m? I’m so used to us getting French kids for just hundreds of thousands I assumed he was like a tribunal fee or something. Suddenly I’m seeing him as a squad player rather than going straight into the u-23s. It’s weird how much it colours how you rate a player by how much you’ve paid.

Author:  bubblechris [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:02 am ]
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Big mistake for Ramsey if he leaves a developing team for a yoyo team.

Looks like fake news to me...............

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:39 am ]
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Ash wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:


Seemingly doing what all players do delaying any talks as a power play. The longer it goes on it’s just more win-win for Ramsey. Hoping for Özil-type money from Arsenal or payday with a move. I’d bite Chelsea’s hand off for £30 tbh. Has he been more than a bit part over the last 3 years really?

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I’d suggest 30 isn’t enough by Ramsey.

The irony of Ramsey stringing this out was that he was the one complaining about Sanchez antics in the last year of his contract.

Surely with these situations now the club has to start saying “look we need you to have agreed a new contract by date X otherwise we have to assume you no longer want to be here and will be put on the transfer list” if we sold him now there’s little time to secure a replacement although it would explain why we keep getting linked to midfielders ev n though we are well stocked in that position

Author:  Bernard [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:02 am ]
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Ash wrote:
Also was Guendouzi really 8m? I’m so used to us getting French kids for just hundreds of thousands I assumed he was like a tribunal fee or something. Suddenly I’m seeing him as a squad player rather than going straight into the u-23s. It’s weird how much it colours how you rate a player by how much you’ve paid.

The commentator on yesterday's game said it was £8m, as did the Express who called it 'around' £8m. The Mirror, Metro and Sun all said Arsenal paid £7m for Guendouzi, whereas the Star gave the transfer fee in Euros (8m) and Pound Sterlng (7.1m).

Author:  Rich [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:04 am ]
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I see Jose is getting all his excuses and moaning in already. He’s talking about work cup players being away, and saying he hasn’t got any of his transfer targets and doesn’t expect to.

I can see even more throwing his players under the bus, added pressure from a vibrant Liverpool, having to defend his awful stable of football and eventually the final grand fall out and he’s sacked. A standard José 3 year cycle is complete

Author:  Ash [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:18 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
Ash wrote:
Also was Guendouzi really 8m? I’m so used to us getting French kids for just hundreds of thousands I assumed he was like a tribunal fee or something. Suddenly I’m seeing him as a squad player rather than going straight into the u-23s. It’s weird how much it colours how you rate a player by how much you’ve paid.

The commentator on yesterday's game said it was £8m, as did the Express who called it 'around' £8m. The Mirror, Metro and Sun all said Arsenal paid £7m for Guendouzi, whereas the Star gave the transfer fee in Euros (8m) and Pound Sterlng (7.1m).


Ah, ok thanks for the info. That’s encouraging tbh, they were after the lad from PSG who hadn’t signed a contract yet beforehand, that’s probably why I mixed up the fees. They moved for Guendouzi immediately after first player was a no go and payed a fair bit for a completely unknown youngster - bodes well for his standing at the club if they’ve invested that much of a relatively small transfer budget.

Author:  Ash [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:24 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Ash wrote:

Seemingly doing what all players do delaying any talks as a power play. The longer it goes on it’s just more win-win for Ramsey. Hoping for Özil-type money from Arsenal or payday with a move. I’d bite Chelsea’s hand off for £30 tbh. Has he been more than a bit part over the last 3 years really?

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I’d suggest 30 isn’t enough by Ramsey.

The irony of Ramsey stringing this out was that he was the one complaining about Sanchez antics in the last year of his contract.

Surely with these situations now the club has to start saying “look we need you to have agreed a new contract by date X otherwise we have to assume you no longer want to be here and will be put on the transfer list” if we sold him now there’s little time to secure a replacement although it would explain why we keep getting linked to midfielders ev n though we are well stocked in that position


Yeah, 30m isn’t his top whack but with only a year left? Maybe ‘bit part’ was a touch harsh, and he potentially would be missed, and if Emery could get the best out of him he showed in his purple patch his best is pretty effervescent.

I think what you’re describing is called playing hardball, I think most everybody wants to enter negotiations like that, but it becomes apparent pretty quickly if you know what you’re doing who has all the power. I’m not sure the club want to be seen as being ruthless with players either. But yes Ramsey entering his last year and leaving on a Bosman, horrendous, hence why I’d take 30m even from Chelsea - I don’t think that will happen.

Incidentally did you read the comments under the article? No Chelsea fans seemed to rate him at all.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:15 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:

I’d suggest 30 isn’t enough by Ramsey.

The irony of Ramsey stringing this out was that he was the one complaining about Sanchez antics in the last year of his contract.

Surely with these situations now the club has to start saying “look we need you to have agreed a new contract by date X otherwise we have to assume you no longer want to be here and will be put on the transfer list” if we sold him now there’s little time to secure a replacement although it would explain why we keep getting linked to midfielders ev n though we are well stocked in that position


But yes Ramsey entering his last year and leaving on a Bosman, horrendous, hence why I’d take 30m even from Chelsea - I don’t think that will happen.

In my opinion the club must play hardball - sign before the window ends - or leave, early enough for more cover to be bought. I'd personally prefer it if he signed. If he refuses to do either, bench him and sell in January if possible.
He's a quality player but his best position imo is number 10, and Özil and Mkhitaryan can both play there.
We can't be dìctated to by the player, given the Sanchez mess from last year.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:54 pm ]
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Just read on my news feed Chelsea is making a 30 mil bid for Ramsey. This means they have already tapped him up and he's agreed to go.
Disgusted. One of my favorite players. Selling us out if true. And I have little doubt it isn't.

Author:  Ash [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:57 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
Ash wrote:

But yes Ramsey entering his last year and leaving on a Bosman, horrendous, hence why I’d take 30m even from Chelsea - I don’t think that will happen.

In my opinion the club must play hardball - sign before the window ends - or leave, early enough for more cover to be bought. I'd personally prefer it if he signed. If he refuses to do either, bench him and sell in January if possible.
He's a quality player but his best position imo is number 10, and Özil and Mkhitaryan can both play there.
We can't be dìctated to by the player, given the Sanchez mess from last year.


In January he can sign pre contract agreement with overseas clubs. I wonder what the wage figure is that Ramsey wants? Özil is on £300k (good grief) is he after that? I don’t know what he actually earns. With Theo they bit the bullet and paid him 120k was it? Let’s say he signs a 5yr contract - unless he goes to China, this is probably his last big - peak of his career earnings - deal.

Author:  Ash [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:06 pm ]
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According to this https://www.totalsportek.com/money/arse ... -salaries/ he’s on £110k a year and Aubameyang is on £180k. Is he Aubameyang money worthy? I can’t see the club going higher than that albeit I haven’t got a real clue about how any of this works. I’m going to nail my colours to the mast and say I think a deal will be struck because, much like Özil, I don’t think he’s easily going to get a club that’s a step up from arsenal. The Chelsea stuff is nonsensical, they’ve just spent 50m on jorginho and have a packed midfield.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:14 pm ]
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If I could only keep one I would keep Ramsey over Özil. I'd prefer both but if a gun was head to my head.

Author:  Ash [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:24 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
According to this https://www.totalsportek.com/money/arse ... -salaries/ he’s on £110k a year and Aubameyang is on £180k. Is he Aubameyang money worthy? I can’t see the club going higher than that albeit I haven’t got a real clue about how any of this works. I’m going to nail my colours to the mast and say I think a deal will be struck because, much like Özil, I don’t think he’s easily going to get a club that’s a step up from arsenal. The Chelsea stuff is nonsensical, they’ve just spent 50m on jorginho and have a packed midfield.


Edit: a week not 110k a year. Imagine him struggling by on that paltry amount..

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:46 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
Ash wrote:
According to this https://www.totalsportek.com/money/arse ... -salaries/ he’s on £110k a year and Aubameyang is on £180k. Is he Aubameyang money worthy? I can’t see the club going higher than that albeit I haven’t got a real clue about how any of this works. I’m going to nail my colours to the mast and say I think a deal will be struck because, much like Özil, I don’t think he’s easily going to get a club that’s a step up from arsenal. The Chelsea stuff is nonsensical, they’ve just spent 50m on jorginho and have a packed midfield.


Edit: a week not 110k a year. Imagine him struggling by on that paltry amount..

:icon_mrgreen: indeed, the poor soul, that would be terrible.

Speaking of Welshmen, congratulations to Geraint Thomas for a superb achievement in winning the Tour de France.

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:22 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
Speaking of Welshmen, congratulations to Geraint Thomas for a superb achievement in winning the Tour de France.

Yes. Brilliant performance by G. Comes across as a really nice person.

And an absolute legend in terms of what he has won in his career.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:53 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
According to this https://www.totalsportek.com/money/arse ... -salaries/ he’s on £110k a year and Aubameyang is on £180k. Is he Aubameyang money worthy? I can’t see the club going higher than that albeit I haven’t got a real clue about how any of this works. I’m going to nail my colours to the mast and say I think a deal will be struck because, much like Özil, I don’t think he’s easily going to get a club that’s a step up from arsenal. The Chelsea stuff is nonsensical, they’ve just spent 50m on jorginho and have a packed midfield.


Also Ramsey is reportedly being offered 200k a week by us for his new contract which is as much as Hazard is on there. I think you might be right and that it’s an Özil type scenario where he wouldn’t get what he wants elsewhere. 30million fee and 200 a week is a big commitment and only a huge club can stretch to that.

Author:  Draytonkid [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:58 pm ]
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The boys are home, after two very interesting games, Chelsea next.
There's still 6 players to report back,Torreria, Lichsteiner, Campbell, Xhaka, Welbeck and Montreal, that's a huge squad, some will have to go.
Also arnt there 2 young french lads that's supposed to be spoken too this week, a winger and a defender.

Author:  Ash [ Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:35 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Ash wrote:
According to this https://www.totalsportek.com/money/arse ... -salaries/ he’s on £110k a year and Aubameyang is on £180k. Is he Aubameyang money worthy? I can’t see the club going higher than that albeit I haven’t got a real clue about how any of this works. I’m going to nail my colours to the mast and say I think a deal will be struck because, much like Özil, I don’t think he’s easily going to get a club that’s a step up from arsenal. The Chelsea stuff is nonsensical, they’ve just spent 50m on jorginho and have a packed midfield.


Also Ramsey is reportedly being offered 200k a week by us for his new contract which is as much as Hazard is on there. I think you might be right and that it’s an Özil type scenario where he wouldn’t get what he wants elsewhere. 30million fee and 200 a week is a big commitment and only a huge club can stretch to that.


If it really is 200k he’s delusional. Where else does he think he’s going to earn 200k? I’m all over the place with Ramsey, is he vital and worth the big bucks, or an undisciplined big time Charlie and not worth the hassle?

I suppose if he goes on a bosman you take into account the no fee and he get’s a big bump in wages. Which is bizarre that that’s encouraged in players signed by clubs with a reward like that, and then vilified if they’re doing it TO the club.

Author:  Decaf [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:49 am ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
Just read on my news feed Chelsea is making a 30 mil bid for Ramsey. This means they have already tapped him up and he's agreed to go.
Disgusted. One of my favorite players. Selling us out if true. And I have little doubt it isn't.

little doubt it isn't? :25surprise: ????

Why not block the pesky news feed regardless of doubt or triple negatives? You'll be much happier that way.

"Our doubts are traitors".

Author:  Decaf [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:50 am ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
Ash wrote:

Edit: a week not 110k a year. Imagine him struggling by on that paltry amount..

:icon_mrgreen: indeed, the poor soul, that would be terrible.

Speaking of Welshmen, congratulations to Geraint Thomas for a superb achievement in winning the Tour de France.


:53big-emoticons:

Author:  Bernard [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:49 am ]
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Decaf wrote:
Why not block the pesky news feed regardless of doubt or triple negatives? You'll be much happier that way.

Good one! :14laughter:

Author:  Darren [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:10 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
socrates wrote:
Watching in the two Singapore games he looks a player Bernard. Very composed, and with an excellent range of passing. He's only just 19 (April) as well which is quite amazing.

Needs work on the defensive side of his game and obviously he lacks a bit physically as he's still a kid but he looks a steal at £8m.

He looks to have a personality. If we still had Vieira and Petit in our midfield alongside him, it wouldn't shock me if he demanded the ball from them.

Very pertinent point Bernard. Personality has been missing from our team for a while. He does look a very promising player.

Author:  Darren [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:36 am ]
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Btw, Geraint Thomas is a Gooner.

Author:  Darren [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:38 am ]
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Ash wrote:

If it really is 200k he’s delusional. Where else does he think he’s going to earn 200k? I’m all over the place with Ramsey, is he vital and worth the big bucks, or an undisciplined big time Charlie and not worth the hassle?

I heard the offer is even higher than that.

Author:  tomc [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:43 am ]
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Darren wrote:
Ash wrote:

If it really is 200k he’s delusional. Where else does he think he’s going to earn 200k? I’m all over the place with Ramsey, is he vital and worth the big bucks, or an undisciplined big time Charlie and not worth the hassle?

I heard the offer is even higher than that.

Now I'm a big fan of Ramsey. He's given us the two best moments of our recent history with his FA Cup Final winners. Not too many players can say they've done that twice. But if he's been offered £200k+ a week and is still stalling then there's the door Aaron.

Author:  long time gooner [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:30 pm ]
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Darren wrote:
Btw, Geraint Thomas is a Gooner.

:53big-emoticons:

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:27 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Darren wrote:
Btw, Geraint Thomas is a Gooner.

:53big-emoticons:

Another reason to like him :53big-emoticons:

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:36 pm ]
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Darren wrote:
Ash wrote:

If it really is 200k he’s delusional. Where else does he think he’s going to earn 200k? I’m all over the place with Ramsey, is he vital and worth the big bucks, or an undisciplined big time Charlie and not worth the hassle?

I heard the offer is even higher than that.

Blimey so if it’s nearer 250k a week why hasn’t he taken it. If that is the case I’d be pretty sure he’s staying as I couldn’t see him moving abroad and city wouldn’t be interested so it’s chelsea Liverpool or united and I just can’t see any of those 3 paying that type of money just to sign Ramsey.

His negotiating tactic is an interesting one, his wages at the moment are 110k and every week he is delaying signing the deal he misses out on another 140k purely in an effort to squeeze a little more cash Out of the club. He’s probably losing more than he would have made just to give the agent the feeling he’s in charge.

Author:  Decaf [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:26 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Darren wrote:
I heard the offer is even higher than that.

Blimey so if it’s nearer 250k a week why hasn’t he taken it. If that is the case I’d be pretty sure he’s staying as I couldn’t see him moving abroad and city wouldn’t be interested so it’s chelsea Liverpool or united and I just can’t see any of those 3 paying that type of money just to sign Ramsey.

His negotiating tactic is an interesting one, his wages at the moment are 110k and every week he is delaying signing the deal he misses out on another 140k purely in an effort to squeeze a little more cash Out of the club. He’s probably losing more than he would have made just to give the agent the feeling he’s in charge.

Or maybe he wants to go? Lord knows.

Author:  Darren [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:33 pm ]
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Decaf wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Blimey so if it’s nearer 250k a week why hasn’t he taken it. If that is the case I’d be pretty sure he’s staying as I couldn’t see him moving abroad and city wouldn’t be interested so it’s chelsea Liverpool or united and I just can’t see any of those 3 paying that type of money just to sign Ramsey.

His negotiating tactic is an interesting one, his wages at the moment are 110k and every week he is delaying signing the deal he misses out on another 140k purely in an effort to squeeze a little more cash Out of the club. He’s probably losing more than he would have made just to give the agent the feeling he’s in charge.

Or maybe he wants to go? Lord knows.

The offer as I was told would allegedly make him only behind Mesut Özil in the high earners stakes. Ridiculous sum being mentioned. TG, I think it's even higher than £250k. That's what was intimated to me.

I think he wants to play in the CL simply. Top 4 really is absolutely essential this year IMO and I think that's a tough ask. Will be delighted if we do.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:12 pm ]
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Darren wrote:
Decaf wrote:
Or maybe he wants to go? Lord knows.

The offer as I was told would allegedly make him only behind Mesut Özil in the high earners stakes. Ridiculous sum being mentioned. TG, I think it's even higher than £250k. That's what was intimated to me.

I think he wants to play in the CL simply. Top 4 really is absolutely essential this year IMO and I think that's a tough ask. Will be delighted if we do.


If it’s closer to 300k then my goodness he simply isn’t worth that, Pogba is on less at United. There’s probably less than 30 players on the planet making that per week I’d guess and for that type of money you can attract bonafide superstars who do it week in week out which simply isn’t Aaron Ramsey. If he is trying to run down his contract as far as I’m concerned he’s a hypocrite considering his role in the Sanchez stuff last year and should be benched.

Your right we have our work cut out for 4th. I’d suggest the 2 manc clubs and Liverpool will finish top 3 and we will have to fight it out with spurs and Chelsea for 4th place which would be some achievement

Author:  david.d [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:40 pm ]
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i do like Ramsey and think he is one of our most important players when fit but we really have made a rod for our own backs by giving Özil that contract.
But if its true he has been offered 200,000 to 250 ,000 plus a week while the likes of Aubamayeng are reportedly on 180 ,000 and is still stalling then its time to sell him and find someone that can do what he does. And there IS someone else out there.
We stood by him after that horror tackle all those years ago plus his other injuries and you'd like to think there would be a bit of loyalty returned....
I dont think he is worth 200,000 plus a week and if he is looking for more let him go and find someone willing to pay him that money.
It was a mistake giving Özil that contract and you can understand Ramsey trying to get the best contract he can get but no way should we be paying more than 200,000.
If anyone deserves that sort of money it should be our man from Gabon who i think is going to be sensational this season.
Very excited to see the likes of Torreira who started pre season today and Guendouzi who looks like he could be a real bargain if he carries on playing like he did at the weekend.
So excited. It feels fresh. Like a new era is upon us and the staleness and groundhog days of Wenger finally gone.

Author:  kiwipete [ Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:59 pm ]
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david.d wrote:
i do like Ramsey and think he is one of our most important players when fit but we really have made a rod for our own backs by giving Özil that contract.
But if its true he has been offered 200,000 to 250 ,000 plus a week while the likes of Aubamayeng are reportedly on 180 ,000 and is still stalling then its time to sell him and find someone that can do what he does. And there IS someone else out there.

I dont think he is worth 200,000 plus a week and if he is looking for more let him go and find someone willing to pay him that money.

If anyone deserves that sort of money it should be our man from Gabon who i think is going to be sensational this season.
Very excited to see the likes of Torreira who started pre season today and Guendouzi who looks like he could be a real bargain if he carries on playing like he did at the weekend.
So excited. It feels fresh. Like a new era is upon us and the staleness and groundhog days of Wenger finally gone.


Good points ..... greedy bludgers who "hold guns to our head " can f*** off .

I like Ramsay but he's not worth anywhere near 200 grand ...160 would be my top offer . I'll be very disappointed if the club caves in to any more than that .

Any game without a clip of old Puffa Jacket remonstrating with the fourth official will be good .

Author:  gooner7 [ Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:09 am ]
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I don't blame Ramsey looking for a huge contract. This will be his final one before retirement. Much the same as Alexis was doing when he moved to MU. Is he worth $200K per week, no. But if he manages to get it from somewhere, congratulations to him.

He is a good player to have in any team, but not someone who is able to orchestrate a team when needed.

Author:  Rich [ Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:03 pm ]
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Only 9 days left of the transfer window. So nice to go in to this period knowing we’ve done decent business and anything else is a bonus. Obviously I want more, I’d like another CB and a winger but more important is the stability of getting our deals done early and a huge amount of our squad having an uninterrupted pre season

Author:  Rich [ Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:06 pm ]
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The squad has a decent age range. A group of experienced heads at the 30+ range, plenty of players in their prime 26-29, lots of younger players and then also a group of teenagers knocking on the door.

Due to the age of a lot of our premium attacking players there will need to be some turnover there but not for a few years yet

Author:  Bernard [ Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:52 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Obviously I want more, I’d like another CB and a winger

How many wingers are still around Rich? Everyone plays with wide midfielders, including Arsenal. I will have forgotten many but I'm finding what I'd call bona fide wingers who speedily hit the touchline dribbling past the full back to sling crosses into the box harder to think of.

Sure, they exist. Mané, Sane, Sterling, Walcott, Son maybe. But I'm less convinced the likes of Hazard and Willian or Rashford are true wingers. I certainly don't see Mahrez ar a winger, but a wide midfielder. Are wingers becoming an endangered species becuse they're seen as a luxury? I don't think it's impossible.

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