Pretty standard Europa League performance from us. No real structure, Little penetration, looking like a team that has been picked based on ‘who won’t start v city’, lots of square pegs in round holes. Just looks like the best 11 players wenger wants to pick rather than actually trying to create a proper team and formation to play to its strengths

I’d have Nketiah on here instead of Walcott in a heartbeat

Lucky not to be 2 down. Defence very porous. A quality team would have punished us.

Agree

People actually pay to watch this sh*t?.

Well about 30,000 of them anyway by the looks of it..

Last night I sat next to some Bayern fans who having been to Celtic Park, then on to Wembley to see the mighty Madrid, ended their UK soccer tour with our game. They were completely bemused by the lack of atmosphere in the ground. He kept asking why we weren't singing, what was the problem, why weren't we supporting the team? I tried to explain Arsenal fans aren't that bothered by the Europa league, and how expensive it is, and that its a second string team. However, at the end of our stunted chat (which was like a dramatized version of google translate) the fact is we just don't have that sort of fan culture. Part of it may be because we've never had supporter groups like in mainland Europe, who will vocally back their team for 90 mins regardless of how their team is playing. But part of it must be our increasingly diverse, yet ageing fan base who are largely there to be entertained by the team and enjoy the 'match day experience' (cringe). Watching the atmosphere generated by 3000 loud Belgrade fans who were basically just having a party, not really caring about the football, do you think its possible to re-energize our home support?

Last night I sat next to some Bayern fans who having been to Celtic Park, then on to Wembley to see the mighty Madrid, ended their UK soccer tour with our game. They were completely bemused by the lack of atmosphere in the ground. He kept asking why we weren't singing, what was the problem, why weren't we supporting the team? I tried to explain Arsenal fans aren't that bothered by the Europa league, and how expensive it is, and that its a second string team. However, at the end of our stunted chat (which was like a dramatized version of google translate) the fact is we just don't have that sort of fan culture. Part of it may be because we've never had supporter groups like in mainland Europe, who will vocally back their team for 90 mins regardless of how their team is playing. But part of it must be our increasingly diverse, yet ageing fan base who are largely there to be entertained by the team and enjoy the 'match day experience' (cringe). Watching the atmosphere generated by 3000 loud Belgrade fans who were basically just having a party, not really caring about the football, do you think its possible to re-energize our home support?

I've been reading various accounts of the game from our fans and it sounds *%^@*** horrendous. People so bored they were playing sudoku etc

Simply if your paying 60 quid to watch that *%^@ you should literally be allowed to do anything you want without judgement.

I think the whole situation is a symptom of the apathy our fans feel right now. The whole club is boring, our boring manager, boring players, boring bored.

To answer your question without sounding depressing I'd say it's not possible to re energise our support now. The club would need to reduce our ticket prices but I think a lot of our hardcore fans don't feel an affinity with Arsenal anymore. It might change when Wenger goes but I'm not sure. Think a fair bit of damage has been done

Been reading the articles on Santi Cazorlas injury problems and can't help but feel a huge amount of sadness and sympathy for a brilliant player.

Few recent players aside I think he's been one of our best in recent times and probably is our natural team captain, the free kick he scored in the final was superb and if he hadn't played for arsenal during Wengers Alzheimer's period we would be remembering him in even more fond terms.

Been reading the articles on Santi Cazorlas injury problems and can't help but feel a huge amount of sadness and sympathy for a brilliant player.

Few recent players aside I think he's been one of our best in recent times and probably is our natural team captain, the free kick he scored in the final was superb and if he hadn't played for arsenal during Wengers Alzheimer's period we would be remembering him in even more fond terms.

Sad for Cazorla and Arsenal. Wenger needs to realise he needs to replace him sooner, rather than later. Jack isn't able to play at his level. Definitely not Ramsey. Xhaka is far far off. Le Coq or Elneny are nothing but hardworking players, trying to impose themselves. Özil, hot and cold. Alexis is not the central midfield type. Iwobi looks lost most times.

I no longer consider myself an Arsenal supporter which is why I haven't contributed here of late and probably won't again in the future. Those who say you are not a true supporter if you want your team to lose are absolutely right. I despise the club now and most things about it. I literally cannot stand the sight of Wenger in the dugout. He has strangled all the life from the club to gratify his stubbornness and monomaniacal ego. I wasn't upset when Tottenham beat Madrid I was pleased and enjoyed the match. I hope City spank Arsenal on Sunday. These are not the sentiments or words of an Arsenal fan or indeed the person I once was - I try and remind myself of the time when I loved the club so much that defeats would cause me sleepless nights, but that time has gone.

I came to this realisation when I not only stopped caring about Arsenal results but stopped watching the games altogether. The Red Star game was on in the house but I didn't care who won, switched off halfway through to play some music and didn't bother checking the result until much later. I still have the thrill of caring about a club through Brentford, I still can't stand it when they lose which is pleasing because a) I am not not a "glory hunter" or entitled and b) I still love football. I go to most of their home games and when you do that it is almost impossible not to make that club the one you support, I don't believe in polygamy when it comes to football.

Maybe this will change although I think once you get to this stage the game is pretty much up. I don't think I'm the only one either. It doesn't make me the devil, I can't help the way I feel about it. But it's pretty much over for me now.

I feel the same frankly but still intend to continuing to speak here. I haven't attended a match this season and rather than feeling anger towards the club which I did at one point I feel numb to it all. What is a new phenomenon is that I can't even be arsed to watch our games on the telly anymore let alone attend in person when it used to be the highlight of the week. I literally couldn't give a toss where we finish this season and actually I find the triple Mongolian cluster fack the manager and board have made of the club quite amusing.

I was thinking about where we are as a club this week and came to the conclusion we are Spurs in the late 90s when they were mid table and changing their manager every season apart from we don't have the guts to do that.

I stopped believing the lie Wenger was telling us years ago and literally have zero respect for him now.

Sad for Cazorla and Arsenal. Wenger needs to realise he needs to replace him sooner, rather than later. Jack isn't able to play at his level. Definitely not Ramsey. Xhaka is far far off. Le Coq or Elneny are nothing but hardworking players, trying to impose themselves. Özil, hot and cold. Alexis is not the central midfield type. Iwobi looks lost most times.

I think a fully fit Wilshere can be as good as Cazorla. Remember his performance against Barcelona? Like Cazorla, he can form an effective partnership with Coquelin - they did in the academy if not mistaken. Not sure if Wilshere can stay fit throughout a season, so there'd be plenty of games for Xhaka. Ramsey will take Özil's position.

So you think Wilshere can be as good as cazorla and Ramsey as good as Özil