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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:41 pm ] |
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bubblechris wrote: Imo the reason we don't push forward and prefer to pass the ball side to side is that our players have stopped making themselves available for passes. Watched Liverpool on Saturday and in the first half they were fantastic at moving the ball forward as are Man City, Watch them next time they play and see what I mean before you write this off as cant. Agree with this, the off the ball movement is non existent. Lacazette is making classic centre forward runs and never getting the ball, he must be wondering what style of football we play and what he's meant to do? Far too many touches in possession as well. I watched the first half of City v Napoli and virtually everything was 2 touch, the players defended together and moved left, right and forward together. Football has moved past the death by a 1000 passes Barcelona style of 08-12 era, football is more about transitions now - ironically something we were the best in the land at back in 2001-04 era. Think of the times Vieira won the ball and with a single pass we were at the back four or even behind the back 4. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:44 pm ] |
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Goonie wrote: Darren wrote: Amen to that. I think we'll see a line up featuring all of Xhaka, Ramsey, Özil and Wilshere soon. I'd like to see us go back to a back 4 (because lets be honest the back 3 hasn't really stopped goals or chances) and get the extra body in central midfield to get better control of games. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:58 am ] |
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Any win is a great result. When I saw the team sheet it suggested a couple things to me. It tells me that Wenger really doesn't respect this cup. The XI could easily have been his typical League Cup side. The good part of that is I am very, very happy for the young players to be playing on this stage. It's a European competition and for those young men to play in a far away pitch in a European competition has got to mean the whole world to them. Also, the experience as well must be memorable for them. So, while I am a little dismayed to see what I think is a lack of respect for the competition and possibly the only way we will be in the CL, I am happy to see these young players get their chance. Giroud, once again shows why he deserves a place in this side. Maybe not as a starter but certainly a place. Great match for Wilshire, and for his confidence that not only can he still play the highest level that there is a place for him with The Arsenal. |
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| Author: | Decaf [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supporters Forum |
Socrates, have you watched this wonderful documentary? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TcFksZ9UW0 |
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| Author: | Abu [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:20 am ] |
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AmericanGooner wrote: Giroud, once again shows why he deserves a place in this side. Maybe not as a starter but certainly a place. . like a sub, then. Muppet. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:05 pm ] |
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Everton up. Usually a tough away match for us. I recall Rooney's wonder goal. I was gobsmacked. Remember it clearly. The bar I used to go to in LA is owned by a Liverpool fan and his Everton son in law. The son in law was giddy. That strike started Rooney's career and I knew at some point after a few more months and the world cup selection, Man Utd would come calling. It was a matter of when not if. Anyway, we rested enough starters that we should be fresh for the match. Not expecting much. Right now I'll take a draw but as always hoping for a win. |
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| Author: | bubblechris [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supporters Forum |
AmericanGooner wrote: Everton up. Usually a tough away match for us. Really? Since 2000 we Won8 Drew 4 Lost 6 Scored 28 Conceded 20 or if you prefer since 2007 Won 5 Drew 3 Lost2 Scored 20 Conceded 12 Yep a tough game............................ https://www.evertonresults.com/arsenalhome.htm Proof you talk crap.......................... btw fyi the last time they beat us at home was 1996  you dumb fecker
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| Author: | Zed [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:52 pm ] |
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AG you've referenced your once "local" many times on here in LA. |
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| Author: | Gaz from Oz [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:49 pm ] |
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bubblechris wrote: AmericanGooner wrote: Everton up. Usually a tough away match for us. Really? Since 2000 we Won8 Drew 4 Lost 6 Scored 28 Conceded 20 or if you prefer since 2007 Won 5 Drew 3 Lost2 Scored 20 Conceded 12 Yep a tough game............................ https://www.evertonresults.com/arsenalhome.htm Proof you talk crap.......................... btw fyi the last time they beat us at home was 1996 you dumb feckerI fancy us 3-0. We have absolutely no excuses given almost the whole team had a weeks rest and will need to 'bounce back'. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:04 pm ] |
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Zed wrote: AG you've referenced your once "local" many times on here in LA. Yeah? I am using the Brit term 'local' which I heard on here. I went there pretty much every week. The owners and regulars knew me. Before matches were on TV in America regularly, I (and other football fans) went there to watch matches live on satellite. Good times. Good memories. All supporters in the same place so you got to know rival supporters on a personal basis. Felt weird at times. lol. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:12 pm ] |
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...I was back in LA last fall for a couple weeks and I visited it. Most of them were pensioners. I learned some people passed away, other things, etc. from the owner. It was nice being back for a visit. Many, many good and bad memories there football wise. 2002 and 2005 FA cups. Packed to the rafters, the RVN melee, the Rooney wonder goal for Everton and the Rooney dive to end the streak. The CL final versus Barca. It was far more diversified now. Used to be mostly Brits, and on rugby days, South Africans, Aussies, although they had a rugby bar in another part of LA, called the Springbok (South African owned I presume with that name). When I visited, other countries represented, a fight broke out actually, a bit of 'hand bags' I think you guy call it. Wouldn't have happened back when I was a regular. You knew everyone and there was a line no one crossed, no matter what because we all had to share the bar and see the person the next weekend. I was eventually able to pick up the various accents. Liverpool, Geordie (still can't understand a word they say), Manchester, east vs west London, Brum, Scottish, etc. The many stories over beer by the older guys of matches, life in the UK, etc, was priceless. |
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| Author: | bubblechris [ Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:26 am ] |
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Gaz, got to agree with you but we always seem to balls up games I feel confident about. Giping this is the exception. They really are in turmoil so would Lovett see a Lacazette hattrick or a Sanchez one even all assists from Jack or Özil. Next games Norwich in cyp and Swansea at home. All doable I hope. |
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| Author: | Abu [ Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:14 am ] |
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AmericanGooner wrote: Zed wrote: AG you've referenced your once "local" many times on here in LA. Yeah? I am using the Brit term 'local' which I heard on here. I went there pretty much every week. The owners and regulars knew me. Before matches were on TV in America regularly, I (and other football fans) went there to watch matches live on satellite. Good times. Good memories. All supporters in the same place so you got to know rival supporters on a personal basis. Felt weird at times. lol. they felt weird did they - not surprised with you about - bullsh**ter extraordinaire |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:24 am ] |
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Expecting the Manchester sides to win and even though Chelsea have had their issues, I'm also expecting them to have an easier time with Watford that we did. It would be nice if they dropped points. I am not sure if any Gooner expects us to be top 4 this season. I'm a bit surprised Chelsea seems to have dropped in form as much as they did since last season but I won't complain. The question league-wise for us is will we be lower than 5th? 5th or 6th is basically academic, not much difference. Psychologically its bad if a team other than Liverpool, the Manchester sides and the two London sides finish above us. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:40 pm ] |
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Watford's Richarlson misses a sitter that would put them up 2-1 and a minute later, he lays it off for another player (maybe from lack of confidence) and they score. Hope the scoreline remains obviously. Chelsea have fell off considerably since last season. Not sure if its Costa going away or what, but happily they are not doing well it seems. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:02 pm ] |
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I leave and come back to find Chelsea won. 
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| Author: | bubblechris [ Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:45 pm ] |
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AmericanGooner wrote: I leave and come back to find Chelsea won. ffs do not look for the Man U score................ |
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| Author: | warrior [ Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:41 pm ] |
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City smashing Burnley 3 nil |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:12 pm ] |
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City score not a shocker but the Man Utd result put a smile on my face. Time for me to go into my annual, silly, irrational fear of another club going undefeated. I won't have peace of mind till City loses. |
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| Author: | Goonie [ Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:17 pm ] |
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This team should be good enough to win against Everton: Čech, Bellerin, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Monreal, Kolasinac, Ramsey, Xhaka, Özil, Sanchez and Lacazette. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:22 am ] |
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We're good enough to win against anyside in the league save City perhaps or at the very least get a draw. Its the mentality of the Wenger sides. We have had a few different sides since '04 and they all lacked mental toughness. I'm sure its what Sanchez. He saw weakness and a side that had talent (or he wouldn't have come) but lacked a fighting spirit that is sustainable. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:29 am ] |
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The key today will be how we start. Too often, especially away from home, our game plan seems to be to try to control the game and take the early sting out of it and he crowd - this often means we don’t match the intensity of the opposition. The crowd today will be looking for anything to grab on to and cheer, and we usually give it to them by crumbling under a high press, allowing the opposition to harass and bully us and fly in to tackles. Sometimes you have to match them in the fight first and then use your quality to finish them. Wenger just doesn’t seem to get that, he has blind faith in his way even after years of proof to the contrary. The team we put out today should have had a weeks rest compared to Everton having many of their team playing midweek. My fear is that Everton still come out flying and we can’t match it. Every time we concede we seem to have every drop of confidence drained out of us and replaced with fear and panic. |
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| Author: | bubblechris [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:49 am ] |
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Goonie wrote: This team should be good enough to win against Everton: Čech, Bellerin, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Monreal, Kolasinac, Ramsey, Xhaka, Özil, Sanchez and Lacazette. Xhaka doesn't deserve his place in the team. He should be rested and given one to one about his attitude. |
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| Author: | Goonie [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:28 am ] |
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bubblechris wrote: Goonie wrote: This team should be good enough to win against Everton: Čech, Bellerin, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Monreal, Kolasinac, Ramsey, Xhaka, Özil, Sanchez and Lacazette. Xhaka doesn't deserve his place in the team. He should be rested and given one to one about his attitude. From the training pics on Arsenal.com, it seems like the would be starters were wearing white bibs. And Xhaka was wearing white bib. |
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| Author: | bubblechris [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:44 am ] |
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Goonie wrote: bubblechris wrote: Xhaka doesn't deserve his place in the team. He should be rested and given one to one about his attitude. From the training pics on Arsenal.com, it seems like the would be starters were wearing white bibs. And Xhaka was wearing white bib. Not disagreeing with your observations, AW as usually pushing his favourites, I was saying that he let us down badly in the Watford game, imo for most of the game, and doesn't deserve to be in the first team. |
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| Author: | Goonie [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:21 am ] |
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bubblechris wrote: Goonie wrote: From the training pics on Arsenal.com, it seems like the would be starters were wearing white bibs. And Xhaka was wearing white bib. Not disagreeing with your observations, AW as usually pushing his favourites, I was saying that he let us down badly in the Watford game, imo for most of the game, and doesn't deserve to be in the first team. I think the balance in midfield would be better with someone like Coquelin in there. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:40 am ] |
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Özil and Sanchez both start |
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| Author: | Bernard1 [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:50 am ] |
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Rich wrote: Özil and Sanchez both start From the players who are currently fit, on paper it's arguably our strongest team. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:28 pm ] |
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Bernard wrote: Rich wrote: Özil and Sanchez both start From the players who are currently fit, on paper it's arguably our strongest team. And facing a team low on confidence. No excuses |
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| Author: | bubblechris [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:29 pm ] |
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Well done Goonie, spot on. How about the score? |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:32 pm ] |
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I miss the yellow away strip. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:33 pm ] |
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Should be 1-0, Ramsey through on the gk, tipped wide |
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| Author: | bubblechris [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:35 pm ] |
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AmericanGooner wrote: I miss the yellow away strip. Friggin hell I agree with you for once! |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:35 pm ] |
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How is that not a penalty? Pickford just flattens Sanchez, just basically pushes him off the pitch and didn’t get the ball. |
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| Author: | bubblechris [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:36 pm ] |
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Wow we look like a team. Can we keep it up and silence some of our critics............... |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:37 pm ] |
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Started well. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:40 pm ] |
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Loving Lacazette's movement and he and Sanchez (and others) seem to be working well together. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:40 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: Started well. Indeed. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:41 pm ] |
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Argh. Lacazette blocked by the gk from no more than 5 yards out. Gk did well but he shouldn’t have a chance with that We should be leading. Must make sure we don’t rue these misses. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:42 pm ] |
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Spoke too soon. Rooney, always been our nemesis. Perhaps a foul before the goal, i've seen some referees give it. |
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