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Author:  gooner7 [ Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:58 am ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
I wonder if we are the favorites for the Europa cup? Dortmund, Milan, Atletico, Lyon, Napoli, Lazio, Marseille, Sporting Lisbon would have to be the best of the lot.

I could easily see us going out to most of those sides if we don't play decently. Milan is the biggest name but its not the '91 Milan side by any stretch. Atletico I would deem the favorites. Recently in european finals. Second in la Liga ahead of Real Madrid.


With this current lot, and their lackadaisical style of play, I do not see us winning the Europa Cup. Xhaka is the biggest culprit of the lot. He is just too lackadaisical in his approach. And this comes at a time when we are in very serious need of a strong defensive midfielder or an effective offensive midfielder, which he is neither. Sad days for us. I don't like this vein of thinking about Arsenal or our players, but it is all there to be witnessed.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:15 am ]
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I'd love to see us break the bank on a dominating defensive center mind like Kante. Or someone in that vein. I'd prefer Coq as center mid to the current crop. He regressed a bit perhaps or so it seems but I would suggest when he seemed so the whole squad was playing badly. Then of course his injuries. Just saying at least he put himself about and got stuck in and tried to protect the back line. Wenger only spends his biggest transfers on attacking players and rolls the dice on defense.

Author:  Rich [ Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:39 am ]
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Apparently we’ve conceded 22 penalties in the league in the past 2 seasons.

Author:  Rich [ Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:02 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Apparently we’ve conceded 22 penalties in the league in the past 2 seasons.

edit: read this stat online and it has since been corrected. The stat is total penalties in arsenal games.

For pens conceded it is 4 this season in the league and 10 last season. That's just under 1 in every 4 games

Author:  Rich [ Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:05 pm ]
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Dembele is getting a lot of plaudits recently, he really does make Spurs tick and dictates the pace of the game and can easily up the tempo himself.
Strange that he doesn't have a single goal or assist in the league this season. Shows you need to watch games rather than just rely on stats.

The other one is Kane has a no better strike conversion rate than most of the other strikers in the league, but the shear quantity of shots and chances he has leads to the huge amount of goals he gets

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:17 pm ]
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I want Ospina subbed on if it seems like its going to go to PKs for the league cup final what should be for obvious reasons.

Author:  Bernard1 [ Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:26 pm ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
I want Ospina subbed on if it seems like its going to go to PKs for the league cup final what should be for obvious reasons.

Surely Ospina will be in the starting eleven for the League Cup final anyway.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:37 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
AmericanGooner wrote:
I want Ospina subbed on if it seems like its going to go to PKs for the league cup final what should be for obvious reasons.

Surely Ospina will be in the starting eleven for the League Cup final anyway.

No doubt at all.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:48 pm ]
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I see this as a positive - Josh K doing a review on how the club is run.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... enger.html

Author:  Bernard1 [ Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:59 pm ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
I see this as a positive - Josh K doing a review on how the club is run.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... enger.html

Be interesting to see what his conclusions are, although they may end up hidden from the likes of us.

Seeing the quarter final draw, I'll be surprised if the four FA Cup semi-finalists aren't Manchester City, Manchester United, Tottenham and Chelsea. Chelsea look under the most threat, as they've got a difficult tie against Leicester in the next round, even though I still make Chelsea the favourites between them.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:12 am ]
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I can see a case for getting one gun in under certain situations in America. For protection or hunting. Even then it depends on the circumstances. High crime area, etc, as opposed to a suburban area where crime is pretty much non existent.
Anything over one gun and you are a gun enthusiast. A small percentage of people own almost all of the guns. Absolutely no use for automatic weapons other than you have an obsession with them.

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Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:31 am ]
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C'mon Rochdale, Brighton and Wigan. Do us all a favor. :icon_mrgreen:

Author:  bubblechris [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:19 am ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
C'mon Rochdale, Brighton and Wigan. Do us all a favor. :icon_mrgreen:


You really are a *%^@ and still do not understand the game and never will it appears.

We want the top 4 teams to stay in the cup not come out of it now. The more games they have the less likely they are to win all their remaining games. Who wins is of no relevance to us.

Of course you could be neither you could just be adopting Daz tactics which just makes him as bad as you.

Author:  bubblechris [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:21 am ]
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Sanchez one excellent assist in the game.

Makes him well worth his wages.

Good to see him in his favourite position as wrecking ball for a Mourinho team bereft of balance.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:01 am ]
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After 160 games without a goal for arsenal Coquelin has scored for Valencia in his first handful of games!

Author:  bubblechris [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:27 am ]
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Rich wrote:
After 160 games without a goal for arsenal Coquelin has scored for Valencia in his first handful of games!


and it was a good header from a corner.............

Author:  Bernard1 [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:15 am ]
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bubblechris wrote:
We want the top 4 teams to stay in the cup not come out of it now. The more games they have the less likely they are to win all their remaining games. Who wins is of no relevance to us.

Can't see them playing more games by not being knocked out has much relevance to us as we're so unlikely to finish in top four.

I don't want Manchester United to win it. If they do, Arsenal will no longer alone be the record winners of the FA Cup.

Author:  Pete on the beach [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:03 am ]
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bubblechris wrote:
AmericanGooner wrote:
C'mon Rochdale, Brighton and Wigan. Do us all a favor. :icon_mrgreen:


You really are a *%^@ and still do not understand the game and never will it appears.

We want the top 4 teams to stay in the cup not come out of it now. The more games they have the less likely they are to win all their remaining games. Who wins is of no relevance to us.

Of course you could be neither you could just be adopting Daz tactics which just makes him as bad as you.



Speak for yourself I don’t , obviously cos my affiliation to the Albion on the one hand , and secondly I’m past the point of caring about arsenal getting in the top 4 ( seems I’m not the only one) whilst the odious Wenger stays in charge

Author:  grantyboy [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:23 am ]
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bubblechris wrote:
Rich wrote:
After 160 games without a goal for arsenal Coquelin has scored for Valencia in his first handful of games!


and it was a good header from a corner.............


A prime example of a player that got Wengered.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:59 am ]
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Arsenal looking at a sleeve sponsor for the 19/20 season. I think this is when puma and emirates ends.
Apparently we lose £100m per season in commercial revenue on Man U. Now there’s no way we can match Man U, but there is no reason that gap shouldn’t be closed and at least the same as the other big clubs.
Man U get their training tops sponsored. Why can’t we have a training top sponsor? I assume it is because we’d naively ties ourselves 100% in tothe emirates deal - which is why we don’t have sleeve sponsors this year. Chelsea have previously bought themselves out of poor commercial deals taken the penalty and moved forward with a better deal.
£8m per season for sleeve sponsor. All of this off field commercial deals has zero impact on in pitch performance so no reason to go very bullish for them

Author:  Wilts-Gooner [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:03 pm ]
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So Kroenke Jr. is on his way over to London for 3 months, I feel better already...

Author:  dec [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:42 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
bubblechris wrote:
We want the top 4 teams to stay in the cup not come out of it now. The more games they have the less likely they are to win all their remaining games. Who wins is of no relevance to us.

Can't see them playing more games by not being knocked out has much relevance to us as we're so unlikely to finish in top four.

I don't want Manchester United to win it. If they do, Arsenal will no longer alone be the record winners of the FA Cup.

I don't want Tottenham, Liverpool, Chelsea or the Manchester clubs to win anything. In this boring money age, a small team knocking out one of the big guys is as good as it gets. I'd love to see a club like Southampton win the cup.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:47 pm ]
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Wilts-Gooner wrote:
So Kroenke Jr. is on his way over to London for 3 months, I feel better already...

How Josh views us is what the future of Arsenal will be. His father is 70. Maybe he lives another 15 or 20 years or maybe not. If its shorter, then Josh will be running things. Either way he'll be running things at some point. Will he pee assets like his father has until the future of the market dictates its a better option to cash out or he has different views?

Author:  Rich [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:58 pm ]
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When we went 10 years without a trophy the view was pretty much completely universal in the media that we HAD to win a trophy. Now you have Liverpool and Spurs with only 1 league cup win each in the last 10 years and the media is pretty much split down the middle about whether they have to win trophies or that their progression is enough.

Perhaps it was we came from a much higher start or maybe it is a back handed compliment because we are expected to win trophies whereas those two aren't - which is being unfair or very easy going (depending on your viewpoint) on Liverpool at least.

Author:  Daz [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:03 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote:
AmericanGooner wrote:
C'mon Rochdale, Brighton and Wigan. Do us all a favor. :icon_mrgreen:


You really are a *%^@ and still do not understand the game and never will it appears.

We want the top 4 teams to stay in the cup not come out of it now. The more games they have the less likely they are to win all their remaining games. Who wins is of no relevance to us.

Of course you could be neither you could just be adopting Daz tactics which just makes him as bad as you.


Of course we all know that one of my most regrettable characteristics is starting arguments for no reason so imagine my surprise when I saw I was at it again here.

Putting that to one side though, do you think: "you really are a *%^@" is the greatest opener when it comes to a disagreement over rivals staying in the cup?
It feels a very blunt instrument, we're not really in Oscar Wilde territory are we?

I wonder whether you have ever considered a dog? Man's best friend and all that, plus a little walk and maybe throwing them a stick is a good way of releasing the pent-up resentment and anger that you currently expend - wastefully in my opinion - being rude to strangers on the internet.

Free advice: take it or leave it.

Author:  Pete on the beach [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:07 pm ]
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Daz wrote:
bubblechris wrote:

You really are a *%^@ and still do not understand the game and never will it appears.

We want the top 4 teams to stay in the cup not come out of it now. The more games they have the less likely they are to win all their remaining games. Who wins is of no relevance to us.

Of course you could be neither you could just be adopting Daz tactics which just makes him as bad as you.


Of course we all know that one of my most regrettable characteristics is starting arguments for no reason so imagine my surprise when I saw I was at it again here.

Putting that to one side though, do you think: "you really are a *%^@" is the greatest opener when it comes to a disagreement over rivals staying in the cup?

It feels a very blunt instrument, we're not really in Oscar Wilde territory are we?

I wonder whether you have ever considered a dog? Man's best friend and all that, plus a little walk and maybe throwing them a stick is a good way of releasing the pent-up resentment and anger that you currently expend - wastefully in my opinion - being rude to strangers on the internet.

Free advice: take it or leave it.


:53big-emoticons:

Author:  bubblechris [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:16 pm ]
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This is still an Arsenal forum as far as I am aware and until it isn't I will continue to believe that AG is talking through his arse and, that anyone who prefers to espouse that AW is the only thing that counts and does not want the best for the team, is likewise a *%^@ and not worthy of anything but derisory comments imo.

If you don't like that Daz then shove it in your pipe and smoke it.............................

Author:  Daz [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:38 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote:
This is still an Arsenal forum as far as I am aware and until it isn't I will continue to believe that AG is talking through his arse and, that anyone who prefers to espouse that AW is the only thing that counts and does not want the best for the team, is likewise a *%^@ and not worthy of anything but derisory comments imo.

If you don't like that Daz then shove it in your pipe and smoke it.............................


Well it's not so much that, I just feel that opening a post and calling somebody a *%^@ for not sharing your particular (and, if you'll forgive me for saying so, rather banal) viewpoint is not really what this particular Arsenal forum is about. Sure there's plenty of argy-bargy and for somebody who prides myself on my quiet gravitas I am often there or thereabouts. I am on AG's blocklist along with 90% of the other miscreants on here. But I always think leaven it with a bit of wit or charm you know?

Or get a dog.

Author:  John [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:53 pm ]
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How the *%^@ are Rochdale 11 pts from safety in league 1?

Author:  Daz [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:55 pm ]
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John wrote:
How the *%^@ are Rochdale 11 pts from safety in league 1?


You really are a *%^@.

Author:  Pete on the beach [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:00 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote:
This is still an Arsenal forum as far as I am aware and until it isn't I will continue to believe that AG is talking through his arse and, that anyone who prefers to espouse that AW is the only thing that counts and does not want the best for the team, is likewise a *%^@ and not worthy of anything but derisory comments imo.

If you don't like that Daz then shove it in your pipe and smoke it.............................


In that case i’ll Take desirory comments all day long , Arsenal F.C. is on ice for an increasing number under Arsene F.c is flushed out ,

As you said it’s about, opinions for many clubs are treating fans cynically like consumers with the idea that they will just accept it, trouble is over time the goal posts move and that’s where some reach a line in the sand

So yes in your eyes some of us are out of order , but for us many have got the credentials of years and years of support , so we have earned the right

Author:  John [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:05 pm ]
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Daz wrote:
John wrote:
How the *%^@ are Rochdale 11 pts from safety in league 1?


You really are a *%^@.

Hard to argue with that.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:07 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote:
This is still an Arsenal forum as far as I am aware and until it isn't I will continue to believe that AG is talking through his arse and, that anyone who prefers to espouse that AW is the only thing that counts and does not want the best for the team, is likewise a *%^@ and not worthy of anything but derisory comments imo.

If you don't like that Daz then shove it in your pipe and smoke it.............................

Didn't realise you were a pipe smoker Daz. You *%^@.

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:51 pm ]
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Yay!!!!!! Nice one Rochdale :1laughter:

Author:  bubblechris [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:53 pm ]
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Rochdale doing the unbelievable. Losing 2-1 with a minute to go they equalise with a second goal.

Comms saying it's a replay at Wembley. Isn't that better than Spurs losing?

Twats........

Author:  Rich [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:53 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Yay!!!!!! Nice one Rochdale :1laughter:

Looked like spurs had edged it with a late penalty (Ali winning one that was an actual foul for once), but then Rochdale pump the ball in the box in the 93rd minute and snatch a 2-2. Deserve their trip to Wembley.

Author:  Decaf [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:56 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote:
AmericanGooner wrote:
C'mon Rochdale, Brighton and Wigan. Do us all a favor. :icon_mrgreen:


You really are a *%^@ and still do not understand the game and never will it appears.

We want the top 4 teams to stay in the cup not come out of it now. The more games they have the less likely they are to win all their remaining games. Who wins is of no relevance to us.

Of course you could be neither you could just be adopting Daz tactics which just makes him as bad as you.

I think you are over complicating and getting steamed up for no reason. Firstly, the teams above us are not going to collapse because of FA cup commitments. In fact, I can't see any scenario that gets us up to 4th. So, secondly, we should simply enjoy the prospect of embarrassing upsets and romantic underdog that the cup provides.

Author:  Daz [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:03 pm ]
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John wrote:
Daz wrote:

You really are a *%^@.

Hard to argue with that.


Your dog really is a *%^@.

Author:  Daz [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:05 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
bubblechris wrote:
This is still an Arsenal forum as far as I am aware and until it isn't I will continue to believe that AG is talking through his arse and, that anyone who prefers to espouse that AW is the only thing that counts and does not want the best for the team, is likewise a *%^@ and not worthy of anything but derisory comments imo.

If you don't like that Daz then shove it in your pipe and smoke it.............................

Didn't realise you were a pipe smoker Daz. You *%^@.


I'm not but it's a great old phrase that needs to be used more often so credit for that one at least.

And if you don't like it you can take a running jump.

You *%^@.

Author:  Bernard1 [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:06 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote:
Rochdale doing the unbelievable. Losing 2-1 with a minute to go they equalise with a second goal.

Comms saying it's a replay at Wembley. Isn't that better than Spurs losing?

Twats........

Being this is Tottenham's best chance of a trophy and had they lost, that chance would have disappeared, then I'd have preferred them to lose. I'd have found it very amusing. Now it's highly likely Tottenham will win the replay and progress to the quarter finals.

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