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Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:10 am ]
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tomc wrote:
Daz wrote:
Hand on heart is there really anybody who wouldn't laugh themselves silly if we lost?

Daz I think most of us would shrug our shoulders, let out a sigh of indifference, and quickly move on.

That's where we are with Arsenal these days.

Sadly I think you are 100% correct
Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:10 am ]
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tomc wrote:
Daz wrote:
Hand on heart is there really anybody who wouldn't laugh themselves silly if we lost?

Daz I think most of us would shrug our shoulders, let out a sigh of indifference, and quickly move on.

That's where we are with Arsenal these days.

Sadly I think you are 100% correct
Author:  grantyboy [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:13 am ]
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kiwipete wrote:
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Just seen an interview post Spurs game Arsene's opening intro " Well the game was 50 / 50 possession ..... groan :20hospitals: when will you ever ever ever f*** learn possession means nothing , zilch , zero , nada , nichts , rein .... it's what you do with the f&^^%# ball when you got it that matters .

When I see things like that I think this guy will never learn .


Also a significant amount to do with what you do when you don't have the ball. Another concept that Wenger fails to grasp.
Author:  Daz [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:42 pm ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
tomc wrote:
Daz I think most of us would shrug our shoulders, let out a sigh of indifference, and quickly move on.

That's where we are with Arsenal these days.

Sadly I think you are 100% correct


That's what I did against Tottenham where I did not want us to lose.

But I would seriously love it if we lost tonight. Sadly I cannot watch it because I'm taking my son to see Julius Caesar (move over, Hoy) to try and learn him that there are other things in life than football - a "treat" he seriously resents me for.

I have told him to imagine that Caesar is Wenger and he might enjoy it a lot more.
Author:  Daz [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:45 pm ]
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kiwipete wrote:
we've lost to minnows before .


Yeah but back when we gave a *%^@ about it...
Author:  AmericanGooner [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:46 pm ]
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grantyboy wrote:
If Arsene stays into the final year of his contract then surely that would weaken Arsenal's negotiating power in hiring his replacement because like always in the market, Arsenal will be desperate.

Bould as caretaker manager? No?
Author:  Daz [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:47 pm ]
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Let me have men about me that are fat. Sleek-headed men and such as sleep a-nights. Yond Gazidis has a lean and hungry look. He thinks too much. Such men are dangerous...
Author:  AmericanGooner [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:49 pm ]
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Goonie wrote:
grantyboy wrote:
If Arsene stays into the final year of his contract then surely that would weaken Arsenal's negotiating power in hiring his replacement because like always in the market, Arsenal will be desperate.


Erm, if Wenger's sacked and we have to look for a new manager - wouldn't that be a more desperate and a weaker negotiating position?


Are Stan's reasons for sacking the same as yours or this forum's? We keep thinking Stan would sack Wenger for what may be seen as obvious reasons. Stan may not (and I'd suggest most likely) deem those reasons sackable.
Author:  Rich [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:54 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
Wilts-Gooner wrote:

£50 we wont get 4th?.

:7laughter:

Thinking we'll finish 4th is taking over-optimism to radical extremes. To suggest we'll finish 5th isn't quite as barmy a prediction, but to say "5th at worst" makes it more barmy than would have been the case without the "at worst". Everything, in my view, currently points to us finishing 6th.

In current form 7th is more likely than 5th. 6th place for me has about a 95% chance of happening, 3% 7th, 2% 5th
Author:  Daz [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:58 pm ]
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41902664
Author:  TOP GUN [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:31 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Bernard wrote:
Thinking we'll finish 4th is taking over-optimism to radical extremes. To suggest we'll finish 5th isn't quite as barmy a prediction, but to say "5th at worst" makes it more barmy than would have been the case without the "at worst". Everything, in my view, currently points to us finishing 6th.

In current form 7th is more likely than 5th. 6th place for me has about a 95% chance of happening, 3% 7th, 2% 5th


Was looking back over old posts and I was saying in September we would finish 6th or 7th. I've seen nothing to convince me different from then to now.

As fans now we are merely passengers aboard Wengers exploding clown car.

Wenger is our Brexit and the stupidity never ends
Author:  Zed [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:42 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
Daz wrote:
Hand on heart is there really anybody who wouldn't laugh themselves silly if we lost?

I would.

So would I.
Author:  kiwipete [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:53 pm ]
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Daz wrote:
Sadly I cannot watch it because I'm taking my son to see Julius Caesar (move over, Hoy) to try and learn him that there are other things in life than football - a "treat" he seriously resents me for.
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"LEARN HIM "..... bit arse backwards you've been watching too many Wenger interviews . Downunder we would have said " teach him ".

I'd just read that link you posted before logging on .... very folksy , ticking all the boxes , morals, ideals . attitude etc etc .

Not quite in your camp of wanting us to lose but if we were to ; the disappointment would be tempered by the fact ; such a result would be such an injection for people doing things right

.... and in today's world of football typified by that bloated cash cow Manchester City of obscene wages , fees , spending ... FIFA corruption .... that means a lot
Author:  kiwipete [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:04 pm ]
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grantyboy wrote:
kiwipete wrote:
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Just seen an interview post Spurs game Arsene's opening intro " Well the game was 50 / 50 possession ..... groan :20hospitals: when will you ever ever ever f*** learn possession means nothing , zilch , zero , nada , nichts , rein .... it's what you do with the f&^^%# ball when you got it that matters .

When I see things like that I think this guy will never learn .


Also a significant amount to do with what you do when you don't have the ball. Another concept that Wenger fails to grasp.


Yes I was intimating that .... other teams crowd us halfway inside our half making it difficult for us to keep possession , we however make a couple of token efforts to close people down , then cede territory ,retreating to our to our "Maginot Line" on the edge of our penalty area .
The Germans found a way around that as do a lot of our opponents .

That along with EVERYONE back for a corner ... leaving us no target for relief ..... :blob8: braindead .
Author:  Daz [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:11 pm ]
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“Learn him” was a joke.
Author:  Daz [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:12 pm ]
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Like at school “borrow us a pen, mate”.
Author:  Zed [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:49 pm ]
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Some teams can play in snow. US NFL.

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Author:  long time gooner [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:56 pm ]
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Daz wrote:
“Learn him” was a joke.

He should of known that :icon_wink:
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:17 pm ]
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Monreal !!!!!!!!!!! again ....................
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:28 pm ]
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Michi !!!!
Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:31 pm ]
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2-0 against woeful opposition. We should win this 7 or 8. Don't see the point of risking the big players here. Get Eddie, Nelson and Willock on asap.
Author:  Rich [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:36 pm ]
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We’ll surely walk this tie but even after 30 minutes it is clear this arsenal team and their manager learn nothing. Same mistakes in possession, same huge gaps in central mid, gifting chances, still slow on the ball.
We’re winning 2-0 and it is still quite difficult to enjoy watching arsenal. That’s what wenger has done to us
Author:  Rich [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:40 pm ]
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It is just brainless football at times.
Ospina plays a short ball out to chambers who is deep near his own corner flag, he plays it down the line to Bellerin and suddenly there is a 3 man press against our 2, the ball goes back to chambers who hoofs it high and not very far.
We still cannot play against a high press against any level of opposition. It’s like Wenger completely stumbled on playing Cazorla deep and centrally and no he’s gone he hasnt got a clue what to do.
Author:  Rich [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:46 pm ]
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Last 20 mins we haven’t been in the game at all. They have been peppering our goal with shots.
You often hear managers talk about their team being ‘compact’. Arsenal and wenger don’t bother with it at all.

So frustrating to once again see a team who are just quicker, hungrier and more up for it than we are. Yes we’re 2-0 up but it’s because these guys are league 2 standard.
Author:  Rich [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:10 pm ]
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First 20 mins they were maybe a bit overawed by the occasion, as soon as they realised we weren’t actually that good they more than matched us for the rest of the half.
Welbeck has looked so rusty up front. I’d get Nketiah on
Author:  Rich [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:17 pm ]
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Özil 3-0
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:17 pm ]
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#3 for Arsenal, and it is Özil!
Author:  Rich [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:34 pm ]
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Free kick for one of their men because he got cramp
Author:  Deebo [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:35 pm ]
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Long time member. Not so regular poster. However I do follow the forum regularly.

Watching the game and I have to say iho Welbeck is never going to make it as a striker. He just doesn't seem to be greedy enough. He doesn't want to take anyone on and doesnt run on to throughballs.

And more recently I have started falling asleep in Arsenal matches. This has never happened before. The football is so boring now and lacks any penetration.
Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:36 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Free kick for one of their men because he got cramp

Well the ref's from Northern Spain. What do you expect.
Author:  kiwipete [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:40 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
He should of known that :icon_wink:

:laughing7: Should have ........cockney speak which I guess is your accent can be pretty can be pretty arse backwards at times .

Only seen since just before the Özil goal ..... at 3 - 0 shouldn't be moaning but what typifies Arsenal for me these days ..

Commentator ... "what was a counter attack has turned into a lesson on possession " :blob8:
Author:  TOP GUN [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:41 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
Rich wrote:
Free kick for one of their men because he got cramp

Well the ref's from Northern Spain. What do you expect.


Here we go !

"That wants Chorizo on it" :laughing7:
Author:  Rich [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:41 pm ]
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Arsenal are just so boring to watch.

I just don’t understand what our plan is anymore? We don’t press, we don’t sit deep, we don’t counter, we don’t even keep possession well. Whatever the tactics are it is the same every game.

That Liverpool trio up front would bag 8/9 against this lot
Author:  TOP GUN [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:43 pm ]
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Welbeck off on 82

*%^@*** hell mate if you can't score againest a load of Elk farmers in Deliverance Sweden you've got no chance at the best of times :laughing7:

He couldn't get a bunk up in Bangkok
Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:49 pm ]
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Stupid challenge by Bellerin. Thankfully a shite penalty.
Author:  TOP GUN [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:50 pm ]
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Ospina has saved a penalty. Record the date we've kept a clean sheet !!!!

Go on arsene !!!
Author:  Rich [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:51 pm ]
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Ospina saves a penalty. Good save

Arsenal nearly manage to give away a stupid goal in the last minute.

We’ve basically slept walked through this entire game
Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:51 pm ]
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Deebo wrote:
Long time member. Not so regular poster. However I do follow the forum regularly.

Watching the game and I have to say iho Welbeck is never going to make it as a striker. He just doesn't seem to be greedy enough. He doesn't want to take anyone on and doesnt run on to throughballs.

And more recently I have started falling asleep in Arsenal matches. This has never happened before. The football is so boring now and lacks any penetration.

Evening Deebo. I can think of a few performances I've seen this season where being asleep would have been preferable.
Author:  TOP GUN [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:54 pm ]
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Have we turned the corner ??
Author:  gooner7 [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:55 pm ]
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We won, but we are so boring to watch nowadays. Square passes are our specialty. We attack as fast as a slow Loris.
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