Xhaka at the end after another horrid performance
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:06 pm ] |
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I find the Pépé situation bizarre. He takes his time finding form, then gets two great late goals to be ‘the star man’ a huge confidence boost and Emery doesn’t pick him in any game since |
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| Author: | Gaz from Oz [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:06 pm ] |
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The big Black Friday sales are here. Not sure if you have them in the UK but most things are discounted. Maybe there is a discount manager out there. |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:10 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: I find the Pépé situation bizarre. He takes his time finding form, then gets two great late goals to be ‘the star man’ a huge confidence boost and Emery doesn’t pick him in any game since It’s ludicrous, he should be starting every week. However it’s just one of many daft situations |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:12 pm ] | ||
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Xhaka at the end after another horrid performance
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| Author: | Wirral Gooner [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:13 pm ] |
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*%^@*** dreadful. Sack him tonight. Do not wait until tomorrow. Drive him to Colney and throw his stuff in a binbag. I do not want him anywhere near our club tomorrow. |
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| Author: | thofman [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:14 pm ] |
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TOP GUN wrote: Gaz from Oz wrote: I don't know where rock bottom is but we may not be there yet. There you go Oz. Were there now. They fixed it for you As Trump watchers have discovered, rock bottom has a basement... |
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| Author: | Ash [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:22 pm ] |
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In american sports, correct me if I'm wrong, once you've blown your chance and you're having 'losing season' you juts try to lose and so get a higher pick in the draft next year. I just don't think Kroenke as an owner of american sports franchises can frankly see what the fuss is about. You have a losing season, no matter how early it starts, and then you regroup. There is no one to replace you. |
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| Author: | socrates [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:25 pm ] |
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TOP GUN wrote: socrates wrote: Why would you take off Martinelli? I just don't get his thinking at all. The kid has quality but he also works his socks off. Also even if you wanted to it’s Pépé who needed to be brought on. Exactly. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:28 pm ] |
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I think it’s hard to find or think of a team that plays with less heart than Arsenal, particularly of confidence is low and we go behind. They completely give up. How can anyone who genuinely cares about Arsenal find this acceptable. They will simply not sack him though. |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:29 pm ] |
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Emery saying that he left Xhaka on because Xhaka wanted to. Ok that’s fine then it’s not it isn’t his decision One more wretched performance from Xhaka en voila ! Don’t underestimate the improvement we will see when he’s gone. Talk about proving everyone right, for my money the worst major arsenal signing of all time |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:32 pm ] |
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Disappointed but we are still ahead in the table. As I said when Wenger was in charge as now with Emery. Getting rid of either doesn't negate the fact that we are rotten at the top. Kroenke is the problem once you peel back the layers. And we are stuck with him. That's why I am resigned about us and the future. What's the point. Years ago I said, if we win trophies is despite not because of Kroenke and I am more right now than ever. I warned years ago, the board should not have backed someone who does not know the sport, does not know and love the club because at the end of the day, every club that has continuing success loved the sport as well as the club. This is the same man who took a team from his home state at a time they needed it. Let that sink in Emery leaving won't solve our problem. Even if we get the manager we want by consensus there will come a time where we will need money to go the next level and Kroenke will make a business decision not to. All owners will have to make that decision at some point in order to win things and build a foundation. They will have to spend more than you really should using their heart instead of listening to the accountants. |
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| Author: | kiwipete [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:35 pm ] |
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I write something , then delete it , write some other really clever in depth solution delete that , then answer someone Emery , Özil , Xhaka , the board all get a mention clever words , flowing prose ..... then I think ... why bother  Emery , the board , 85 % of the players please , please , please don weightbelts and drop yourselves into the Mariana Trench
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| Author: | Darren [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:35 pm ] |
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We’re about to find out if Raul is a blagger or not. I have a feeling he’s part of the problem. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:41 pm ] |
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Emery: 'I am thinking about the next match [Norwich]. We improved today but it wasn't enough.' |
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| Author: | Ash [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:49 pm ] |
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kiwipete wrote: Emery , the board , 85 % of the players please , please , please don weightbelts and drop yourselves into the Mariana Trench I mean... that's quite a trek... But I can definitely see you leading that particular expedition with Captain Scott levels of steadfastness and fortitude 
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| Author: | Ash [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:50 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: Emery: 'I am thinking about the next match [Norwich]. We improved today but it wasn't enough.' No, you're taking the piss.. What?! |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:16 pm ] |
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Keown saying Emery ‘has taken the team as far as he can’ that statement implies forward momentum of some kind. Technically there is a lot further emery can take us backwards |
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| Author: | grantyboy [ Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:22 pm ] |
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Let Emery fly home from Frankfurt with the team, say his farewells and then let him go. Should be landing in London soon. If the news tomorrow is anything but "Emery sacked" then Arsenal are deservedly a joke. |
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| Author: | Gaz from Oz [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:08 am ] |
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grantyboy wrote: Let Emery fly home from Frankfurt with the team, say his farewells and then let him go. Should be landing in London soon. If the news tomorrow is anything but "Emery sacked" then Arsenal are deservedly a joke. I would have cancelled his ticket. Do you think they might be waiting for Wrighty to come out of the jungle to team up with Bergkamph for the rest of the season. Bergy is my pick for the rest of the season as manager. There are worse suggestions in the media. |
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| Author: | gooner7 [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:09 am ] |
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What a disaster
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:09 am ] |
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grantyboy wrote: Let Emery fly home from Frankfurt with the team, say his farewells and then let him go. Should be landing in London soon. If the news tomorrow is anything but "Emery sacked" then Arsenal are deservedly a joke. Er? They were in London all evening. In body if not in spirit. 
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:27 am ] |
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I really do despair at the state of the club. right from top to bottom we’re a total mess and we have been for 10 years. The players are not trying, they’re playing to get the manager sacked. We’ve seen this from many teams in the past. My issue is I’m not sure the players can ‘turn it on’ for any new manager. Too many of them have been on easy street for too long. Too many of them are simply not good enough and show no signs of improving. I find it embarrassing that over the last 10 years there hasn’t been a single sustained period of football where as a fan I’ve felt my team were playing with 100% commitment, effort and desire. Yes the odd game but not sustained. |
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| Author: | grantyboy [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:49 am ] |
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long time gooner wrote: grantyboy wrote: Let Emery fly home from Frankfurt with the team, say his farewells and then let him go. Should be landing in London soon. If the news tomorrow is anything but "Emery sacked" then Arsenal are deservedly a joke. Er? They were in London all evening. In body if not in spirit. Lol thanks LTG. They were indeed. My revised plans are to fly him one way to Frankfurt then sack him. |
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| Author: | grantyboy [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:52 am ] |
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Rich wrote: I really do despair at the state of the club. right from top to bottom we’re a total mess and we have been for 10 years. The players are not trying, they’re playing to get the manager sacked. We’ve seen this from many teams in the past. My issue is I’m not sure the players can ‘turn it on’ for any new manager. Too many of them have been on easy street for too long. Too many of them are simply not good enough and show no signs of improving. I find it embarrassing that over the last 10 years there hasn’t been a single sustained period of football where as a fan I’ve felt my team were playing with 100% commitment, effort and desire. Yes the odd game but not sustained. I think this squad has the talent to get top 4 at a canter. With some proper management of course. Will be hard work now though. |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:07 am ] |
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Darren wrote: We’re about to find out if Raul is a blagger or not. I have a feeling he’s part of the problem. The club made a decision to implement a European model with technical directors under a wizard of oz type owner ratifying the decisions. It suits Kroenke down to the ground but leaves you open to issues if you get someone who attains too much power. I don’t think you can blame Raul too much. Apparently he didn’t want Emery and wanted Enrique anyway and I’m not sure I can find it in myself to criticise the recent signings who apart from Ceballos and maybe Luiz have been pretty decent. Like I said yesterday though. There is a strong element that the people running arsenal are not as good as we used to have. Dein and hill wood would never have recruited Emery. |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:24 am ] |
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The board should hang there heads in shame and I don’t trust them to get the right replacement in but I think most of our problems lie on the pitch. This team needs several players but we are are desperate for a midfield player who can get on the ball and dictate play. A 28 year old Santi if you like. Maybe Isco in the summer but somebody’s required as Xhaka and Guendouzi were appalling last night. We simplying aren’t distributing the ball, moving it quickly, zero one touch. Paired with the managers inexplicable crazy decisions and negative brand of football it makes for a disaster. I saw someone suggesting we sack Emery and get someone like Benitez or hiddink in to steady the ship, this also might make sense. |
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| Author: | Darren [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:49 am ] |
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They have to pull the trigger today. I think it’s now unfair on Emery to allow this to continue. |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:50 am ] |
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grantyboy wrote: long time gooner wrote: Er? They were in London all evening. In body if not in spirit. Lol thanks LTG. They were indeed. My revised plans are to fly him one way to Frankfurt then sack him. Works for me 
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:51 am ] |
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Darren wrote: They have to pull the trigger today. I think it’s now unfair on Emery to allow this to continue. Or he could do the decent thing. |
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| Author: | Darren [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:05 am ] |
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Our goal last night was the last shot we had on target! We are so *%^@*** bad. |
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| Author: | Darren [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:06 am ] |
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long time gooner wrote: Darren wrote: They have to pull the trigger today. I think it’s now unfair on Emery to allow this to continue. Or he could do the decent thing. I wouldn’t walk if I was in line for few million quid. Would you? |
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| Author: | warrior [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:13 am ] |
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I've seen some people suggest he should do the right thing and simply resign, but in doing so, wouldn't walking away from his contract cost him a fair bit of loot ? Surely his best plan of action is to keep showing up to work until he's asked not to. I'm guessing he won't even see the week out. Odds if you're a betting person. Next Arsenal Manager: Nuno Espirito Santo $1.83 Mikel Arteta $6.5 Freddie Ljungberg $8 Massimiliano Allegri $8 Mauricio Pochettino $10 Steven Gerrard $15 |
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:14 am ] |
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grantyboy wrote: Rich wrote: I really do despair at the state of the club. right from top to bottom we’re a total mess and we have been for 10 years. The players are not trying, they’re playing to get the manager sacked. We’ve seen this from many teams in the past. My issue is I’m not sure the players can ‘turn it on’ for any new manager. Too many of them have been on easy street for too long. Too many of them are simply not good enough and show no signs of improving. I find it embarrassing that over the last 10 years there hasn’t been a single sustained period of football where as a fan I’ve felt my team were playing with 100% commitment, effort and desire. Yes the odd game but not sustained. I think this squad has the talent to get top 4 at a canter. With some proper management of course. Will be hard work now though. I agree based on talent....but you don’t get top 4 on talent alone. When is the last time any of these talented players showed courage, leadership, commitment, effort, never say die etc in fact when was the last time we saw any talent from these talented players? |
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| Author: | Darren [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:18 am ] |
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What happens next will define Raul’s tenure at Arsenal. I think he’s just a wheeling dealing dick swinger. Let’s see what he’s made of. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:20 am ] |
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TOP GUN wrote: We simplying aren’t distributing the ball, moving it quickly, zero one touch. First game I watched fully in a while and this struck me vividly. Teams close us down all over the pitch now, we don’t move the ball quick enough or even play the passes with enough zip. The result is once a player has controlled the ball there is a player in his face which negates any decent, accurate forward pass. Passes go backwards or sideways or are hopefully tossed forwards. Movement is also key for this. We don’t move to revive the ball. It all comes back to confidence. If you aren’t confident you take the extra touch, you play the safer pass, you hide! And there is zero confidence or understanding in the manager, his tactics and formations. At times like this I’m always tempted to say forget the manager and just let the captain and senior players decide how we play. Adams and Vieira yes, current squad - I think we’d be in an even worse mess if we just left it to the players to sort out. |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:47 am ] |
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He’s going today if you think about it. They can’t leave this till tomorrow because Norwich preparations are underway. He’s lost the fans and won’t regain their buy in. Expect an announcement around midday |
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| Author: | rotterdamnation [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:10 am ] |
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Yep, we should have stayed at Highbury. |
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| Author: | Darren [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:16 am ] |
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David Ornstein has tweeted that he's going today. I told you he wouldn't last until Christmas! |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:34 am ] |
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Rumours that Freddie would want Sylvain Wilford as a temporary assistant. Wonder who would make the best permanent manager out of the 2 of them. |
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| Author: | bubblechris [ Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:53 am ] |
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 warrior wrote: I've seen some people suggest he should do the right thing and simply resign, but in doing so, wouldn't walking away from his contract cost him a fair bit of loot ? Surely his best plan of action is to keep showing up to work until he's asked not to. I'm guessing he won't even see the week out. Agree entirely and have said the same a couple of times. The Arsenal need to set the pace. Sack him for incompetence, let him sue us and prove he is competent. Time to test the system imo............ |
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