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It wouldn't be the most exciting signing, but according to Ornstein it was Arteta who requested it. That settles it for me. We can't talk about how the club needs to back the manager and then complain when they try to sign a player Arteta wants just because we don't like the profile of said player.

However, to give a 32 year old a 3 year deal on huge wages (I've heard 300k a week) seems a little absurd notwithstanding he's a free transfer. He's a very good player but is he really what we need at this stage of our rebuild.

He will have no resale value at the end of 3 years so a long contract is hardly protecting our asset.

If he's one of many incomings then fine. If not it seems a little strange.

socrates wrote:

Morning socrates. If you’re right and it is £300k a week for a 32 year old on a 3 year contract, which as we’ve found with Özil’s £350k a week represents a committed outlay that the club won’t be able to get out of, it amounts to £15.6m per year. That means a committed expenditure of £46.8m over the period of the contract. As a 32 year old, his age can only mean he is already past his peak, and will get further past it as each of the 3 seasons pass.

I realise we’re all in a good mood after the cup final and want to see positives. But if the figure you have heard is anything even remotely like the truth, the signing sounds a bit barmy to me. Especially as we already have Pépé and Saka who I reckon will develop into the first choice wide attacking midfielders.

Bernard wrote:

Hi Bernard,

I removed the 300k a week bit because on reflection it seems ridiculous, that would be more than we are offering Aubameyang. Can't be true, can it.

Very good player but in the twilight of his career and not that good to merit such a deal.

No way we're paying Willian £300k per week.

Darren wrote:

No way we're paying Willian £300k per week.

Not with Özil still milking the club for £350k a week for one more year. Once bitten, twice keep the money in the bank surely. Or offer Willian half that. Which is still very good money for a 31 (nearly 32?) year old.

tomc wrote:

Yes surely it’s as or more attractive to Willian than to Arsenal, gets to stay in London where he’s presumably built a life for himself over the 8? years he’s been at Chelsea, gets the wage boost from being a free transfer. Gets to link up with Luiz and if he’s been personally requested by Arteta. Who’re the other club I wonder? It’s spurs isn’t it...

Willian's weekly wages at Chelsea were £120K, according to the Chelsealatestnews website. Kepa/Kante currently highest paid at £150K a week. Chelsea 2020 wage bill stands at £98M.
Can't see Willian on £300K a week unless it's cause he didn't cost anything. And yes, Spurs were interested, yet Mour stayed quiet.

I reckon Lacazette will go while he still has value.

I think MA fancies Eddie Nketiah to play the same chasing / harrying / poaching role. I wouldn't argue too hard against that decision.

Zed wrote:

I highly doubt those wage figures. Jorginho is on less than 120k a week? After being bought at great expense recently as Sarri’s key signing? There’s a load of horseshit that goes along with these published lists and always has done as far as I can see. Like Arsenal including bonuses and other clubs not doing so, that makes it meaningless doesn’t it?? Also including and not including agents fees in transfers. Murky stuff.

Willian is a quandary. Can he go 90 minutes any longer? He's a game changer though. He can do for us what Giroud did for us off the bench and is doing for Chelsea now off the bench, come up with that goal in a game that gets you the points.

I reckon Lacazette will go while he still has value.

I think MA fancies Eddie Nketiah to play the same chasing / harrying / poaching role. I wouldn't argue too hard against that decision.

If Daz is out there watching nervously in his Brentford shirt ...good luck
Another London derby next year no matter what

Advice please from those that buy the shirts.

I’m getting a shirt for my nephew’s birthday, and instead of the usual bog standard £60 odd quid one, as he’s on a special birthday I’m wondering if it’s worth getting him the £100 odd quid one. (Especially given the 10% discount)

Is there a discernible difference in quality or fit?

Cheers

john1 wrote:

Sorry mate, I’ve. no idea. I’ve bought a few home shirts and got one away over the years. But beyond long or short sleeves that is as far as it goes for me.

Ash wrote:

It will be image rights - Arsenal include them in wages, most of the other clubs in this country don’t

It’s really simple. The perfect arsenal shirt is a replication or variation of the 89 shirt or the shirt the invincibles wore.

Thick whole white sleeves that haven’t been messed with and a red body in the right colour tone with minimal touches and flashy bits.

Andy Green wrote:

If Daz is out there watching nervously in his Brentford shirt ...good luck
Another London derby next year no matter what

For me, Effing brilliant. Fulham won 0-1 and they’ve always been my second favourite London club. Have family who support them. I’m so pleased. Fulham are miles below Bayern and Rangers in the correct order of my favourite clubs. But they are fourth following Arsenal, Bayern and Rangers.

john1 wrote:

I wish I had you as an uncle growing up!

I probably have zero beneficial advice really :laughing7:

what I would say is that the shirt situation is insane and I’d suggest getting him the 60 quid one and buying him something else because in 9 months time whatever shirt you will have bought gets chucked out anyway and a new one is issued.

I bought my son the yellow away kit 6 months ago which looks nice I thought. Que corona and the first team have barely worn it. Why on earth would any sane human being buy a third kit ? :laughing7:

I’m aware they change the kits every year now but it’s ludicrous really it’s exploiting parents

The new home shirt looks horrendous in my opinion.

john1 wrote:

Maybe you could buy Özils shirt. He's not using it.

john1 wrote:

Player/authentic shirts are more tight fitting. Best for those who are lean or at least slim. Supposedly lighter and more breathable to aid performance. Apart from the fit, difficult to tell the difference just by looking. Even the made in China fakes are difficult to spot unless you scrutinise closely.

This video should help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs2zyA3QXMI

socrates wrote:

Very good player but in the twilight of his career and not that good to merit such a deal.

But that's what they said about me though.

Author:	Darren [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:16 am ]
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I'm not bothered by the Willian deal should it happen. We're only still at the first phase of the Arteta rebuild, we don't have big sums of money and when you see Jadon Sancho going for £110m - a fee we could never afford without a huge upturn in fortunes or a new owner - then the outlay for Willian is relatively small. He's a free and brings experience. It's not ideal or the ideal profile we need but where we are at this moment in time, I feel this represents our level right about now. He can do a job for us. At this point, I have utter faith in Arteta. As Arseblog said on the Arsecast yesterday, both times Arteta joined the club as a player, and as a manager, the club was in a mess and both times he has represented a stabilising influence. Players have improved under him. Look at the turn around in Xhaka, Mustafi, Ceballos, Maitland-Niles. He also seems to have a little bit of steel about him too. I have real belief we have a really, really good manager.

Author:	socrates [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:22 am ]
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Hazuki wrote: It wouldn't be the most exciting signing, but according to Ornstein it was Arteta who requested it. That settles it for me. We can't talk about how the club needs to back the manager and then complain when they try to sign a player Arteta wants just because we don't like the profile of said player. Hi Haz, If he's one of many incomings then fine. If not it seems a little strange. If it was a 1 year deal with an option for a 2nd year then I would see some logic in it. However, to give a 32 year old a 3 year deal on huge wages seems a little absurd notwithstanding he's a free transfer. He's a very good player but is he really what we need at this stage of our rebuild. He will have no resale value at the end of 3 years so a long contract is hardly protecting our asset. I understand your point about backing the manager and I fully understand that. However, he's given Luiz another year and signed Mari and Cédric, neither of whom look like worldbeaters, so I am waiting to be convinced by his signings.

Author:	socrates [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:32 am ]
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On the topic of signings, despite recent criticisms of our recruitment policy least summers signings have worked out pretty well. Pépé.....not justified his price tag, which was overinflated, but he has done pretty well for his first season and looks like he could become an important player for us. Needs guidance but Arteta might just be the person to provide that. Martinelli.....has surprised everyone and looks like he could be a serious player. Tierney........after overcoming his injuries he looks a top prospect. Very grounded and you could see him at Arsenal for years to come. Ceballos......initially looked lightweight but post lockdown he has probably been our best outfield player. Luiz.......has done pretty much what is says on the tin. Some very good performances and some very indifferent ones. A mixed bag of a player but looks to be a great bloke who has helped improve team spirit. Overall I would say the signings have been been pretty good despite our poor PL season.

Author:	Bernard [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:51 am ]
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socrates wrote: However, to give a 32 year old a 3 year deal on huge wages (I've heard 300k a week) seems a little absurd notwithstanding he's a free transfer. He's a very good player but is he really what we need at this stage of our rebuild. He will have no resale value at the end of 3 years so a long contract is hardly protecting our asset. Morning socrates. If you’re right and it is £300k a week for a 32 year old on a 3 year contract, which as we’ve found with Özil’s £350k a week represents a committed outlay that the club won’t be able to get out of, it amounts to £15.6m per year. That means a committed expenditure of £46.8m over the period of the contract. As a 32 year old, his age can only mean he is already past his peak, and will get further past it as each of the 3 seasons pass. I realise we’re all in a good mood after the cup final and want to see positives. But if the figure you have heard is anything even remotely like the truth, the signing sounds a bit barmy to me. Especially as we already have Pépé and Saka who I reckon will develop into the first choice wide attacking midfielders.

Author:	Hazuki [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:54 am ]
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socrates wrote: If he's one of many incomings then fine. If not it seems a little strange. Certainly agree with that, only making one signing wouldn't be acceptable at all. And I do take the point that a three year contract is a little too long at this stage of Willian's career, although I don't imagine that extra year will cripple us too much if he doesn't perform well that last season. I guess the overall point for me is that I've been hugely impressed by Arteta early on, with everything from his tactics and man management, to the way he talks about the club, and what he's trying to build. The players clearly love playing for him, and so I think he's earned the right to make these kinds of deicsions and we'll just have to see how it shakes out.

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Author:	socrates [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:55 am ]
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Bernard wrote: socrates wrote: However, to give a 32 year old a 3 year deal on huge wages (I've heard 300k a week) seems a little absurd notwithstanding he's a free transfer. He's a very good player but is he really what we need at this stage of our rebuild. He will have no resale value at the end of 3 years so a long contract is hardly protecting our asset. Morning socrates. If you’re right and it is £300k a week for a 32 year old on a 3 year contract, which as we’ve found with Özil’s £350k a week represents a committed outlay that the club won’t be able to get out of, it amounts to £15.6m per year. That means a committed expenditure of £46.8m over the period of the contract. As a 32 year old, his age can only mean he is already past his peak, and will get further past it as each of the 3 seasons pass. I realise we’re all in a good mood after the cup final and want to see positives. But if the figure you have heard is anything even remotely like the truth, the signing sounds a bit barmy to me. Especially as we already have Pépé and Saka who I reckon will develop into the first choice wide attacking midfielders. Hi Bernard, I removed the 300k a week bit because on reflection it seems ridiculous, that would be more than we are offering Aubameyang. Can't be true, can it.

Author:	Darren [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:19 am ]
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No way we're paying Willian £300k per week.

Author:	Bernard [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:23 am ]
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socrates wrote: Bernard wrote: Morning socrates. If you’re right and it is £300k a week for a 32 year old on a 3 year contract, which as we’ve found with Özil’s £350k a week represents a committed outlay that the club won’t be able to get out of, it amounts to £15.6m per year. That means a committed expenditure of £46.8m over the period of the contract. As a 32 year old, his age can only mean he is already past his peak, and will get further past it as each of the 3 seasons pass. I realise we’re all in a good mood after the cup final and want to see positives. But if the figure you have heard is anything even remotely like the truth, the signing sounds a bit barmy to me. Especially as we already have Pépé and Saka who I reckon will develop into the first choice wide attacking midfielders. Hi Bernard, I removed the 300k a week bit because on reflection it seems ridiculous, that would be more than we are offering Aubameyang. Can't be true, can it. Hi socrates. I started my post from your original so didn’t see you had removed the £300k. I would certainly hope the £300k can’t be true. But my other point on this issue remains. If Saka and Pépé will become our first choice wide attacking players, how much do we need a 32 year old Willian on high wages (even if it isn’t £300k a week) for 3 years? Especially if Smith Rowe is half as good as others appear to suggest (even though apart from one pretty good game I’m yet to see it myself).

Author:	warrior [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:28 am ]
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socrates wrote: Very good player but in the twilight of his career and not that good to merit such a deal. But that's what they said about me though.

Author:	tomc [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:00 pm ]
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Darren wrote: No way we're paying Willian £300k per week. Not with Özil still milking the club for £350k a week for one more year. Once bitten, twice keep the money in the bank surely. Or offer Willian half that. Which is still very good money for a 31 (nearly 32?) year old.

Author:	Ash [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:09 pm ]
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tomc wrote: Darren wrote: No way we're paying Willian £300k per week. Not with Özil still milking the club for £350k a week for one more year. Once bitten, twice keep the money in the bank surely. Or offer Willian half that. Which is still very good money for a 31 (nearly 32?) year old. Yes surely it’s as or more attractive to Willian than to Arsenal, gets to stay in London where he’s presumably built a life for himself over the 8? years he’s been at Chelsea, gets the wage boost from being a free transfer. Gets to link up with Luiz and if he’s been personally requested by Arteta. Who’re the other club I wonder? It’s spurs isn’t it...

Author:	Hazuki [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:14 pm ]
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Ash wrote: tomc wrote: Not with Özil still milking the club for £350k a week for one more year. Once bitten, twice keep the money in the bank surely. Or offer Willian half that. Which is still very good money for a 31 (nearly 32?) year old. Yes surely it’s as or more attractive to Willian than to Arsenal, gets to stay in London where he’s presumably built a life for himself over the 8? years he’s been at Chelsea, gets the wage boost from being a free transfer. Gets to link up with Luiz and if he’s been personally requested by Arteta. Who’re the other club I wonder? It’s spurs isn’t it... Ornstein mentioned Chelsea, Barcelona and Miami as three others.

Author:	Lincoln gooner [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:22 pm ]
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I agree with Haz - if it's what Arteta wants, give it to him. We have plenty of youth in the squad and Willian, assuming he's still in good nick (which he appears to be) adds quality and experience.

Author:	Zed [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:37 pm ]
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Willian's weekly wages at Chelsea were £120K, according to the Chelsealatestnews website. Kepa/Kante currently highest paid at £150K a week. Chelsea 2020 wage bill stands at £98M. Can't see Willian on £300K a week unless it's cause he didn't cost anything. And yes, Spurs were interested, yet Mour stayed quiet.

Author:	Ash [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:15 pm ]
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Zed wrote: Willian's weekly wages at Chelsea were £120K, according to the Chelsealatestnews website. Kepa/Kante currently highest paid at £150K a week. Chelsea 2020 wage bill stands at £98M. Can't see Willian on £300K a week unless it's cause he didn't cost anything. And yes, Spurs were interested, yet Mour stayed quiet. I highly doubt those wage figures. Jorginho is on less than 120k a week? After being bought at great expense recently as Sarri’s key signing? There’s a load of horseshit that goes along with these published lists and always has done as far as I can see. Like Arsenal including bonuses and other clubs not doing so, that makes it meaningless doesn’t it?? Also including and not including agents fees in transfers. Murky stuff.

Author:	AmericanGooner [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:37 pm ]
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Willian is a quandary. Can he go 90 minutes any longer? He's a game changer though. He can do for us what Giroud did for us off the bench and is doing for Chelsea now off the bench, come up with that goal in a game that gets you the points. If he is not a week in, week out starter, will he stand for starting sometimes and coming off the bench other times? And his need for 3 years. If we get him and can get 2 good years out of him and in that time get back to top 4 at least and on the way to challenging, then his 3rd season can be written off. By then, we'd have gotten (presumably) other good players in as we are on the up. That's all a big if. If we can keep Aubameyang, we won't need him but if we do both, well, things get interesting. We desperately need either a CB or a DM. I hope the long rumored deal for Partey is as close to getting done as the rumors suggest. He's young and talented, like Saliba and we have nice group of young players (Saka and others) that we can build on. Some maturity is needed to lead them for those uber big games.

Author:	Hazuki [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:03 pm ]
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Some rumblings in France that we're getting close to signing brilliantly named Brazilian centre back Gabriel dos Santos Magalhães from Lille. 22 years old, 6ft3 and supposedly very comfortable on the ball. Haven't seen him play, but seems like a good profile for us.

Author:	DHD [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:49 pm ]
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I reckon Lacazette will go while he still has value. I think MA fancies Eddie Nketiah to play the same chasing / harrying / poaching role. I wouldn't argue too hard against that decision.

Author:	Ash [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:02 pm ]
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DHD wrote: I reckon Lacazette will go while he still has value. I think MA fancies Eddie Nketiah to play the same chasing / harrying / poaching role. I wouldn't argue too hard against that decision. The chasing part of it and the energy definitely, his finishing is highly regarded and I’m hopeful that will pick up with confidence and more chances, It would be his link up play that I’d question him being first choice in that position.

Author:	HoddGooner [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:41 pm ]
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Ash wrote: Zed wrote: Willian's weekly wages at Chelsea were £120K, according to the Chelsealatestnews website. Kepa/Kante currently highest paid at £150K a week. Chelsea 2020 wage bill stands at £98M. Can't see Willian on £300K a week unless it's cause he didn't cost anything. And yes, Spurs were interested, yet Mour stayed quiet. I highly doubt those wage figures. Jorginho is on less than 120k a week? After being bought at great expense recently as Sarri’s key signing? There’s a load of horseshit that goes along with these published lists and always has done as far as I can see. Like Arsenal including bonuses and other clubs not doing so, that makes it meaningless doesn’t it?? Also including and not including agents fees in transfers. Murky stuff. It will be image rights - Arsenal include them in wages, most of the other clubs in this country don’t

Author:	Rich [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:42 pm ]
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AmericanGooner wrote: Willian is a quandary. Can he go 90 minutes any longer? He's a game changer though. He can do for us what Giroud did for us off the bench and is doing for Chelsea now off the bench, come up with that goal in a game that gets you the points. Willian played 90 minutes 21 times in the league and was subbed off 8 times in the 29 starts he made. I’d wager that is as good a 90 minute ratio of any winger at a top 6 club. Wingers being one of the most substituted players. I posted a link to his stats on injuries before, one thing we don’t need to worry about is Willian’s fitness or injury record, he’s kept himself in top condition at 31. Similar to Aubameyang who barely misses a game and plays the 90 very often

Author:	Andy Green [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:46 pm ]
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If Daz is out there watching nervously in his Brentford shirt ...good luck Another London derby next year no matter what

Author:	TOP GUN [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:00 pm ]
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DHD wrote: I reckon Lacazette will go while he still has value. I think MA fancies Eddie Nketiah to play the same chasing / harrying / poaching role. I wouldn't argue too hard against that decision. I’m not sure. I can’t see Arteta going into a new season with just Nketiah as his central striking role. If you look at firmino he has way more technical ability and excels at link up play. Nketiah seems to be a different type who wants to exist in and around the 6 yard box moving to receive the final ball. It would be such a massive leap of faith. How many great goals has he scored for us, he’s a real novice. Nketiah isn’t scoring that goal against spurs Lacazette did. Lacazette might go but to go into a new season with Nketiah as first choice striker would be ridiculous

Author:	AmericanGooner [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:35 pm ]
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Thanks Rich, Willian and Aubameyang are the same age. If Aubameyang says he wants a 3 year contract to stay, do we uphold the same criteria some on here applying to Willian?

Author:	Bernard [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:17 pm ]
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Andy Green wrote: If Daz is out there watching nervously in his Brentford shirt ...good luck Another London derby next year no matter what For me, Effing brilliant. Fulham won 0-1 and they’ve always been my second favourite London club. Have family who support them. I’m so pleased. Fulham are miles below Bayern and Rangers in the correct order of my favourite clubs. But they are fourth following Arsenal, Bayern and Rangers.

Author:	john1 [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:20 pm ]
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Advice please from those that buy the shirts. I’m getting a shirt for my nephew’s birthday, and instead of the usual bog standard £60 odd quid one, as he’s on a special birthday I’m wondering if it’s worth getting him the £100 odd quid one. (Especially given the 10% discount) Is there a discernible difference in quality or fit? Cheers

Author:	Bernard [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:31 pm ]
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john1 wrote: Advice please from those that buy the shirts. I’m getting a shirt for my nephew’s birthday, and instead of the usual bog standard £60 odd quid one, as he’s on a special birthday I’m wondering if it’s worth getting him the £100 odd quid one. (Especially given the 10% discount) Is there a discernible difference in quality or fit? Cheers Sorry mate, I’ve. no idea. I’ve bought a few home shirts and got one away over the years. But beyond long or short sleeves that is as far as it goes for me.

Author:	john1 [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:48 pm ]
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Bernard wrote: john1 wrote: Advice please from those that buy the shirts. I’m getting a shirt for my nephew’s birthday, and instead of the usual bog standard £60 odd quid one, as he’s on a special birthday I’m wondering if it’s worth getting him the £100 odd quid one. (Especially given the 10% discount) Is there a discernible difference in quality or fit? Cheers Sorry mate, I’ve. no idea. I’ve bought a few home shirts and got one away over the years. But beyond long or short sleeves that is as far as it goes for me. No worries. Maybe someone else will know. The price is putting me off but it’s become a tradition for me to buy him one for his birthday. And as he’s 21 I thought it might be good to get the posher one.

Author:	TOP GUN [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:52 pm ]
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john1 wrote: Advice please from those that buy the shirts. I’m getting a shirt for my nephew’s birthday, and instead of the usual bog standard £60 odd quid one, as he’s on a special birthday I’m wondering if it’s worth getting him the £100 odd quid one. (Especially given the 10% discount) Is there a discernible difference in quality or fit? Cheers I wish I had you as an uncle growing up! I probably have zero beneficial advice really what I would say is that the shirt situation is insane and I’d suggest getting him the 60 quid one and buying him something else because in 9 months time whatever shirt you will have bought gets chucked out anyway and a new one is issued. I bought my son the yellow away kit 6 months ago which looks nice I thought. Que corona and the first team have barely worn it. Why on earth would any sane human being buy a third kit ? I’m aware they change the kits every year now but it’s ludicrous really it’s exploiting parents The new home shirt looks horrendous in my opinion.

Author:	TOP GUN [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:03 pm ]
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It’s really simple. The perfect arsenal shirt is a replication or variation of the 89 shirt or the shirt the invincibles wore. Thick whole white sleeves that haven’t been messed with and a red body in the right colour tone with minimal touches and flashy bits.

Author:	Zed [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:00 pm ]
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HoddGooner wrote: Ash wrote: I highly doubt those wage figures. Jorginho is on less than 120k a week? After being bought at great expense recently as Sarri’s key signing? There’s a load of horseshit that goes along with these published lists and always has done as far as I can see. Like Arsenal including bonuses and other clubs not doing so, that makes it meaningless doesn’t it?? Also including and not including agents fees in transfers. Murky stuff. It will be image rights - Arsenal include them in wages, most of the other clubs in this country don’t Right Hodd image rights. That wasn't factored in on that website. Let alone other fees. Just basics.

Author:	dec [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:01 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote: It’s really simple. The perfect arsenal shirt is a replication or variation of the 89 shirt or the shirt the invincibles wore. Thick whole white sleeves that haven’t been messed with and a red body in the right colour tone with minimal touches and flashy bits. I wouldn't rate the 03/04 shirt too highly. Too much white on the shoulders. The simple shirt of the 70s was excellent but I think my favourite was 98. A superb kit. My son bought the new shirt today using his own money. Crazy price, but the only consolation is that the things last forever. I have shirts from 20 years ago that look exactly.like they were when I bought them.

Author:	Zed [ Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:09 pm ]
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Bernard wrote: Andy Green wrote: If Daz is out there watching nervously in his Brentford shirt ...good luck Another London derby next year no matter what For me, Effing brilliant. Fulham won 0-1 and they’ve always been my second favourite London club. Have family who support them. I’m so pleased. Fulham are miles below Bayern and Rangers in the correct order of my favourite clubs. But they are fourth following Arsenal, Bayern and Rangers. Cottagers return. Suppose the boat rides to their stadium won't be happening for quite sometime.

Author:	AmericanGooner [ Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:40 am ]
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It's a shame Brentford didn't make it. I'm sure Hodd is most disappointed. They are on the cusp of big things.