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Author:  kiwipete [ Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:23 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote:
Who rattled your cage? :20hospitals:


:icon_scratch: :icon_scratch: Er ...ahhmmm ....... replying to your post

Author:  kiwipete [ Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:41 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
kiwipete wrote:


Yes ...but hear yourself here Rich ...you are moaning about refs giving soft penalties and in the next breath advocating our players should get more savvy and do it too .

That's not the answer ...what these fairy floosed w****king players need to do is ......... stop cheating .

I agree I’d much rather stop the cheating and the soft penalties, but I can’t see that happening anytime soon. So what is the point being the only choirboys amongst all the naughty kids when the naughty kids aren’t being punished? If no one is enforcing the rules then

...... we need to adapt and give ourselves a better advantage.

:laughing7: " we need to adapt and give ourselves a better advantage " ..... wonderful blousy prose for CHEAT .

I agree it wont change , because authorities shy away from tough decisions .... they went as far as coin a non threatening word for diving ....... simulation .

What a bunch of wet soft cocks ... with Jock Wallace alongside I'd love to be addressing the Professional Footballers Association end of year function . Three game ban for diving .

Grunting stopped at Wimbledon ...you grunt you lose a point , grunt again .... the game ..third grunt .... the match . Too easy

Author:  Daz [ Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:01 pm ]
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kiwipete wrote:
:laughing7: " we need to adapt and give ourselves a better advantage " ..... wonderful blousy prose for CHEAT .


Times like this I just think: what would Richie do?

Author:  Niall [ Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:54 pm ]
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http://dailycannon.com/2018/01/eden-haz ... t-arsenal/

At least he's admitted it.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:27 pm ]
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Good news. Mark Hughes is available for a managers position.

Author:  Bernard1 [ Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:12 pm ]
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Niall wrote:
http://dailycannon.com/2018/01/eden-hazard-admits-to-diving-against-arsenal/

At least he's admitted it.

He also said a penalty was the right decision. Even if he went down theatrically to make sure he got a penalty, it doesn't mean he wasn't fouled.

Author:  Niall [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:16 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
Niall wrote:
http://dailycannon.com/2018/01/eden-hazard-admits-to-diving-against-arsenal/

At least he's admitted it.

He also said a penalty was the right decision. Even if he went down theatrically to make sure he got a penalty, it doesn't mean he wasn't fouled.

Hazard has of course publicly claimed it was a penalty otherwise he would be opening himself up to the simulation charge. The rest seems to be the opinion of the author.

By his own admission to Auclair, Hazard has dived to win this penalty as the contact from Bellerin was not sufficient to bring him down. He has conned the referee into making that call. Cheating it used to be called. Chelsea have form for it.

Author:  kiwipete [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:16 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
Niall wrote:
http://dailycannon.com/2018/01/eden-hazard-admits-to-diving-against-arsenal/

At least he's admitted it.

He also said a penalty was the right decision. Even if he went down theatrically to make sure he got a penalty, it doesn't mean he wasn't fouled.

Exactly Bernard ........ the little coot from Northern Ireland missed that small detail .

Author:  Niall [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:20 am ]
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kiwipete wrote:
Bernard wrote:
He also said a penalty was the right decision. Even if he went down theatrically to make sure he got a penalty, it doesn't mean he wasn't fouled.

Exactly Bernard ........ the little coot from Northern Ireland missed that small detail .

Who pulled your chain? :)
No, I had seen that earlier and knew someone would treat it as a lifeline....money was on Daz but with Bernard bouncing in I'm afraid this one still has years to run!!

Author:  Bernard1 [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:39 am ]
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Niall wrote:
No, I had seen that earlier and knew someone would treat it as a lifeline....money was on Daz but with Bernard bouncing in I'm afraid this one still has years to run!!

Not at all. I still haven't seen a replay of it. But practically everyone apart from you, bubblechris and Wenger seem to think it was a penalty because Bellerin kicked Hazard, which was a foul. That Hazard went down theatrically to make sure he got the penalty seems little more than a side issue. If he kicked him, and has anyone denied Bellerin did, then it was surely both a foul and a penalty?

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:48 am ]
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Rich wrote:
£142m Coutinho to Barca has been agreed.
Transfer fees have gone mental, what exactly has Coutinho won?

I remember when Ronaldo went to Real for £85m, having just dominated the prem, won a few titles, cups and the champions league.

Liverpool have recouped £320m from the sales of Torres, Suarez, sterling and now Coutinho.....and are no closer to winning anything....but at least they seem to be showing some ambition. I expect them to go big for Lemar and/or Mahrez now.


I was about to post this as well. Crazy money. Not worth it but 100 mil plus may start being the figure for top players is almost there now. 75-90 million is not an outrageous amount any longer.

Author:  kiwipete [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:11 am ]
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Niall wrote:
kiwipete wrote:
Exactly Bernard ........ the little coot from Northern Ireland missed that small detail .

Who pulled your chain? :)
No, I had seen that earlier and knew someone would treat it as a lifeline....money was on Daz but with Bernard bouncing in I'm afraid this one still has years to run!!

Gee shucks Niall I didn't see you lurking in the background ....... no disrespect intended especially to an administrator .... touches his forlock furiously .....

The poxy little country fresh from sorting out the West indies in the cricket , set about demolishing the Pakistanis yesterday , they were in all sorts of trouble before rain halted proceedings .

Author:  old man of hoy [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:35 am ]
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Of the current 18 Premiership referees seven came up through Lancashire, Cheshire and Manchester football, and four through Yorkshire. The remaining seven come from Birmingham (2), Wiltshire (2), and one each from Northumberland, Leicestershire and Berkshire/Bucks. So, not one of them came up through the London FA or the adjoining county FAs, and not one was born in or very near to London - Graham Scott of Oxford being the closest. A remarkably unbalanced state of affairs in the running of the game.

Even assuming they do their best to exercise professional judgement in as honest a way as possible, refs are only too human, and will surely have from their backgrounds personal likes and dislikes of certain football clubs, probably developed in childhood? We all know how London is not beloved by people from the midlands and north, so it is quite possible there is some institutional bias against the capital's teams. When you consider the age of most of the Premiership men in black, Arsenal was the predominant London team in their formative years, so it is feasible our club attracts a disproportionate level of wrong decisions, even compared to other London sides. In years to come Chelsea may have that honour!

Author:  warrior [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:59 am ]
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kiwipete wrote:
Gee shucks Niall I didn't see you lurking in the background ....... no disrespect intended especially to an administrator .... touches his forlock furiously .....

Image

Author:  warrior [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:55 am ]
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Jack Wilshere is officially the most fouled player in the Premier League

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... layer.html

Author:  warrior [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:01 am ]
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47 degrees C here today. A record temperature ...

Author:  Daz [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:49 am ]
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old man of hoy wrote:
Of the current 18 Premiership referees seven came up through Lancashire, Cheshire and Manchester football, and four through Yorkshire. The remaining seven come from Birmingham (2), Wiltshire (2), and one each from Northumberland, Leicestershire and Berkshire/Bucks. So, not one of them came up through the London FA or the adjoining county FAs, and not one was born in or very near to London - Graham Scott of Oxford being the closest. A remarkably unbalanced state of affairs in the running of the game.

Even assuming they do their best to exercise professional judgement in as honest a way as possible, refs are only too human, and will surely have from their backgrounds personal likes and dislikes of certain football clubs, probably developed in childhood? We all know how London is not beloved by people from the midlands and north, so it is quite possible there is some institutional bias against the capital's teams. When you consider the age of most of the Premiership men in black, Arsenal was the predominant London team in their formative years, so it is feasible our club attracts a disproportionate level of wrong decisions, even compared to other London sides. In years to come Chelsea may have that honour!


This being football I suppose it is fine to just deploy your hypothesis and rely on "surelys" and "it is feasible" and "we all know" to back it up. The chippy Northerner theory has of course hidden dangers as I am quite sure a moments reflection will tell you. "They" don't like "Us".

Author:  Daz [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:56 am ]
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What about when a Yorkshire ref is in charge of a Lancashire club? You may not know this from your vantage point dahn the Old Kent Road but there's no great love lost there. Could Mourinho have a point - is it principally an anti red rose bias from those bastards across the Penines? Where does the West Midlands stand in all of this geographical bias - I imagine any ref from Sutton Coldfield will take a dim view of the Blues and who knows where the Black Country stands when it comes to giving soft pens? Even among the soft southern refs what if one of them had an unfortunate experience with a jellied eel in Rotherhithe which has solidified into a particular hostility towards clubs from south-east London.

It won't be long before we find out - I imagine killer evidence like "refs are only human" will be on its way very shortly.

Author:  Daz [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:02 am ]
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Anthony Taylor is from Wythenshawe in Manchester. You don't get much chippier than THAT so let's crunch those numbers.

Hmm. OK so he sent off Moses in the cup final. He had a set-to with Wenger (these northerners are pretty uncosmopolitan as well and often don't get modern abstract art in the way Arsene does so that makes sense). He gave Chelsea a penalty against us OK that doesn't quite fit but everybody knows that exceptions prove the rule and under the law of averages then surely it is feasible for one or two rogue decisions to find their way through.

Yes it's all falling into place now, you just need to do the geog!

Author:  Daz [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:06 am ]
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Craig Joubert...a Saffer in love with NZ ...

Author:  bubblechris [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:34 am ]
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Taylor shocks the comms yet again. Gives a red for a trip when it should have been a yellow.

Why always him?

Author:  Daz [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:52 am ]
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bubblechris wrote:
Taylor shocks the comms yet again. Gives a red for a trip when it should have been a yellow.

Why always him?


He didn't shock the comms against Chelsea though. Everybody in the studio felt it was OK to award a penalty including the notoriously anti-Arsenal Thierry Henry. As did Dermot Gallagher (Irish so hates all English clubs equally) with the benefit of several slo-mo replays. As did the commentators for the Times, the Telegraph and the Guardian...

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:23 am ]
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warrior wrote:
47 degrees C here today. A record temperature ...

I'm currently in Manila and its gorgeous weather here...at least for me. A slight hint of rain so its gray clouds, breezy, not hot at all. Night time warm with a nice breeze. Don't have to run the AC at all. Hope it holds up till I leave here for my next destination (Malaysia).

Its summer there right? I have never been to any of the Oceana countries (Oz, NZ but will visit for sure, thinking of NZ to settle down in permanently actually) but from what I understand its summer when places like America and England are in their traditional 'winter months' like December and January, right?

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:24 am ]
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Hmm..interesting regarding England, the economy and this stats impact on politics. True?
http://www.businessinsider.com/falling- ... byn-2018-1

Author:  bubblechris [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:24 am ]
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Daz wrote:
bubblechris wrote:
Taylor shocks the comms yet again. Gives a red for a trip when it should have been a yellow.

Why always him?


He didn't shock the comms against Chelsea though. Everybody in the studio felt it was OK to award a penalty including the notoriously anti-Arsenal Thierry Henry. As did Dermot Gallagher (Irish so hates all English clubs equally) with the benefit of several slo-mo replays. As did the commentators for the Times, the Telegraph and the Guardian...


It wasn't that long ago you were going to do your centennial flounce. Why don't you sod off and support another team or chat on their forum.

Back to Arsenal matters......................

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:26 am ]
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So now Arsene has got everyone talking about the regional diversity of premiership refs eh. Yawn

All while no defensive training drills have been given to our players for over a decade.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:29 am ]
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I want us to win obviously because I think this cup and the other two cups are are our only real chance at a trophy. In a crazy to think this but the Europa cup may be easier to win than the domestic cups.

Anyway, found a sports bar here, saw some of the FA Cup ties last night. Mostly Brits (Oz, NW) because football and rugby are advertised there. Maybe see some gooners for the match. My guess is Wenger will play a very weakened squad looking forward to the Chelsea match on Wednesday and it being a semi final match.

Author:  Daz [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:30 am ]
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bubblechris wrote:
Daz wrote:

He didn't shock the comms against Chelsea though. Everybody in the studio felt it was OK to award a penalty including the notoriously anti-Arsenal Thierry Henry. As did Dermot Gallagher (Irish so hates all English clubs equally) with the benefit of several slo-mo replays. As did the commentators for the Times, the Telegraph and the Guardian...


It wasn't that long ago you were going to do your centennial flounce. Why don't you sod off and support another team or chat on their forum.

Back to Arsenal matters......................


Harsh when I’ve learned so much from you like Schrodinger’s Hazard which can be simultaneously seen and not seen by refs.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:34 am ]
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Papers say we are close to signing Jonny Evans for 25 million. I know we are desperate for defensive reinforcements but that doesn't seem very forward thinking signing given he's 30 and hasn't set the world alight. It's probably arsene trying to wind up that new scout.

Oh did you see the comments Arsene made about that new Sven bloke By the way? He didn't come across as bitter at all did he. Pretty much said the appointment was needless as we know all the players in Europe anyway.

Author:  Daz [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:41 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Papers say we are close to signing Jonny Evans for 25 million. I know we are desperate for defensive reinforcements but that doesn't seem very forward thinking signing given he's 30 and hasn't set the world alight. It's probably arsene trying to wind up that new scout.

Oh did you see the comments Arsene made about that new Sven bloke By the way? He didn't come across as bitter at all did he. Pretty much said the appointment was needless as we know all the players in Europe anyway.


In the movie after this cute meet they’d learn to love each other and lead us to glory overcoming hurdles like northern refs on their incredible journey.

Author:  bubblechris [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:41 am ]
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Daz wrote:
bubblechris wrote:

It wasn't that long ago you were going to do your centennial flounce. Why don't you sod off and support another team or chat on their forum.

Back to Arsenal matters......................


Harsh when I’ve learned so much from you like Schrodinger’s Hazard which can be simultaneously seen and not seen by refs.


If you can't understand that, in that situation, the dramatic collapse to the floor would obscure whether the kick was soft or not, even if he did see it, then more fool you.

You hate AW, you apparently hate the Arsenal, why do you come on here?

Author:  kiwipete [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:42 am ]
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.

Now while it's well known I like blokes who tell it how it is etc etc ... I do like people with a bit more subtlety ... this is brilliant

forget Owen Coyle , Sam Allardyce , Alf Ramsay ... I want this guy http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42593337

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:48 am ]
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Daz wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Papers say we are close to signing Jonny Evans for 25 million. I know we are desperate for defensive reinforcements but that doesn't seem very forward thinking signing given he's 30 and hasn't set the world alight. It's probably arsene trying to wind up that new scout.

Oh did you see the comments Arsene made about that new Sven bloke By the way? He didn't come across as bitter at all did he. Pretty much said the appointment was needless as we know all the players in Europe anyway.


In the movie after this cute meet they’d learn to love each other and lead us to glory overcoming hurdles like northern refs on their incredible journey.



I like it, closes eyes pictures the scene ....

"Wenger grabs Sven by the hand as they both walk into the sunset, Elgars Nimrod begins to play as both their silhouettes are seen on the horizon basking in the glory of success... cuts to end credits "

Author:  Rich [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:56 am ]
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With Monreal and Kolasinac injured and Elneny and Coq not having had much game time I expect Maitland-Niles to start at LB or LWB again today. The above 2 to start in central mid. A front 3 of Iwobi/Welbeck/Walcott. Nelson at either RWB in a 5 man defence or (much more excitingly) as part of a 3 man attack behind a central striker. This would be my preferred team
Ospina
Debuchy, Per, Holding, AMN
Coq, Elneny
Theo, Iwobi, Nelson
Welbeck

I think the fact Wenger hasn't rotated his team much over the busy Xmas period tells you everything you need to know about the strength of our squad

Author:  Daz [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:56 am ]
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bubblechris wrote:
Daz wrote:

Harsh when I’ve learned so much from you like Schrodinger’s Hazard which can be simultaneously seen and not seen by refs.


If you can't understand that, in that situation, the dramatic collapse to the floor would obscure whether the kick was soft or not, even if he did see it, then more fool you.

You hate AW, you apparently hate the Arsenal, why do you come on here?


To give expression to my anxiety and self-loathing.

Author:  kiwipete [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:59 am ]
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Daz wrote:
Craig Joubert...a Saffer in love with NZ ...


I'd flabberghasted to find a sane person who isn't ..... much as I'd like to pour myself a stiff rum and hang around and watch a few more rounds of you and Bubble ..... alas I must head to bed ...... Arsenal on at 5 am here :brushteeth:

Author:  Daz [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:03 am ]
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bubblechris wrote:
Daz wrote:

Harsh when I’ve learned so much from you like Schrodinger’s Hazard which can be simultaneously seen and not seen by refs.


If you can't understand that, in that situation, the dramatic collapse to the floor would obscure whether the kick was soft or not, even if he did see it, then more fool you.

You hate AW, you apparently hate the Arsenal, why do you come on here?


But while I’m here I can learn right?

How exactly does one event obscure the event that preceded it?

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:03 am ]
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warrior wrote:
47 degrees C here today. A record temperature ...

It's always great to make records.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:57 am ]
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Goonie wrote:
warrior wrote:
Jack Wilshere is officially the most fouled player in the Premier League

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... layer.html


Hope he signs a new contract with us soon. Think he can do the Cazorla role well but won't be too bad at the Özil role either.

I think it is a no brainer. I understand the risk of his injury record but we can't lose Jack for free. This isn't like Özil or Sanchez. Jack wants to play for us. With Jack playing as he is and with the protection of a 3/4 year deal then he is a £30m+ player.

Also, funny how Wenger has been moaning for years about better protection for players, but I saw as soon as Pep started asking for protection for players like De Bruyn the press were all over it agreeing with him. The only response Wenger ever got was to toughen our players up and deal with these sorts of tactics. I think we all knew at the time that it would need a serious injury to an england/media favourite for anyone to start noticing.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:30 pm ]
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A few stories going around that Wenger may decide to move upstairs this summer and has earmarked Arteta as his potential successor. Whilst it's pleasing to see he may go I don't like this suggestion as Wenger would still be around to interfere with matters and his selection of Arteta who is a relative novice to manage a club of our size isn't preferable compared to other options.

If this occurred it would a disaster as our fans would be left to wait for a new dawn when a complete change of board and management would be required to liberate arsenal from Wengers clutches and create a modern new football club from the ashes and remains of what Wenger had left.

This only ends when Wenger goes and we rip down that ridiculous statue the board built of him.

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