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TOP GUN wrote:

Spurs out the carabao cup in first game :14laughter:

That's a pretty good result for them.

Another miserable post by TG alert

Question for the forum. With Balogun and KT gone.

Assuming we sell or loan Tavares, Pépé, Lokonga and Holding by Friday …… (as widely expected)

then hang onto Gabriel and Emile Smith Rowe

…. and dont sign anybody else. Would you say the squad feels stronger than last year or weaker?

To me if I’m brutally honest I can’t bring myself to say it feels like we have strengthened significantly. Very weird considering what’s happened this summer.

TOP GUN wrote:

Assuming we sell or loan Tavares, Pépé, Lokonga and Holding by Friday …… (as widely expected)

then hang onto Gabriel and Emile Smith Rowe

…. and dont sign anybody else. Would you say the squad feels stronger than last year or weaker?

Bored wrote:

Feels to me we have strengthened at the base of our midfield but we were strong there anyway. Took a massive gamble in another midfield position and improved our back up keeper whilst weakening our left back position. If we sell Holding which seems to be suggested then we are very light on numbers in defence certainly if you have any aspirations of competing in multiple competitions and haven’t strengthened up front or wide.

Timber is unfortunate but I don’t really see a squad there that has moved the needle much if I’m honest. Seem short on numbers

Rich wrote:

Varane averages 23 league games per season in his entire career, he’s only made 30+ appearances in 3 out of 13 professional seasons.

For the rest of it I think we’re saying the same thing.

Anthony seems to escape the criticism he truly deserves. He gets criticised but not at the level he should be for a £90m signing

I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. I thought you were even being a bit kind. It's not lost on Man U fans either but they tend to blame the owners and their lack of a proper director of football. Long may it last.

TOP GUN wrote:

Thing is everybody can scream about it and I acknowledge it would be disappointing but letting him go wouldn’t be illogical. His best run in the side was actually when martinelli was injured and he took his place on the left wing. Would you drop martinelli or Trossard for Emile ? I wouldn’t. Also Nelson has now positioned himself again with some very decent sub performances last year. I understand people moaning about Havertz but it’s only 3 games in and there is no connection between Emile Smith Rowe and him. I would say Havertz does look slightly more a 8 than Smithers who is a 10. It’s irritating but I’m not sure he’s shown us or the manager that he’s able to adapt into one of the 2 x 8 positions. Where as look at Vieira Saturday ? Bit lightweight but on the ball has undoubted quality and looks like he can adapt.

How upset can you get about selling a player that will barely feature when we have have some obvious gaps in the squad hampering us.

I hear all your rational points TG.
I think allied to being one of ours is that fear of him going elsewhere and showing the player he undoubtedly is and us regretting that he didn't get to do it with us.

So, Chelsea have signed Cole Palmer for £40m + £5m in add-ons.

Top prospect but that's about £10m more than we got for Balogun.

Exactly how many winger-types have Chelsea now signed.

So how much have we made so far in outgoings? Fees of some sort as far as I know from:

Xhaka
Mari
Mavropanos (sell on)
Balogun
Turner

Anyone else?

Roughly 60-70m so far?

Edit: Aaron trusty to Sheff Utd

To me if I’m brutally honest I can’t bring myself to say it feels like we have strengthened significantly. Very weird considering what’s happened this summer.

Harry Kane was barred from Tottenham Hotspur’s training ground in the hours before completing his £100 million move to Bayern Munich.

The club wrote, in an email, to formally tell Kane it would not be appropriate for him to return to their training ground ahead of formalising his transfer, as he waited to fly to Germany.

Tottenham’s stance also meant the club’s greatest-ever goalscorer did not get the chance to say any face-to-face goodbyes and did not pick up any of his personal possessions himself. Instead, he had to wait for them to be sent on to him and his family, who also could not access their suite at the stadium.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/08/30/tottenham-harry-kane-training-ground-bayern-munich-transfer/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

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The Raya thing makes sense to me. I think we could all see it made no sense to have a back up in Turner who had a different skill set and play style and it made sense to have a second keeper who could do what Aaron Ramsdale can do.

Raya the only and far and away the best option and gettable. Now you’ve solved one problem - as well as you possibly could - but given yourself another one because you’ve got two number 1s rather than a 1 and a 2. But what were the other better options to have two gk’s who can keep the team playing in the same style?

Comparing what we got for Balogun and Manure paid for Hjoland I feel we were either short changed or Manure have had their pants pulled down.

Gunfire wrote:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/08/30/tottenham-harry-kane-training-ground-bayern-munich-transfer/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

What a lack of class for a guy who has more or less carried them for the last 5 years or so

For Saka cover/rest I wouldn’t mind seeing Jesus get some game time on the right wing with either of Nketiah/Havertz up front.

Sevilla, PSV and lens

Decent draw but not the cake walk some are making out.

Author:	TOP GUN [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:20 am ]
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DHD wrote: TOP GUN wrote: Spurs out the carabao cup in first game That's a pretty good result for them. Not sure about that, this is usually how it starts. Gone by January 31st I reckon. TG knows

Author:	AmericanGooner [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:21 pm ]
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Newcastle are very good at home. Last season if you'd were down against them a goal the best you would likely hope for is a draw. Liverpool going down a goal is similar to the Liverpool of last season, but they'd have lost that game last season had they gone down to 10 men. Them winning that game is huge. It's not the same Liverpool. They have some ways to go to get back to how they were but not as far as some think I fear. Right now given the same situation, we'd have lost or drawn. We wouldn't win that game. I think we will play well against Man Utd. I fear we'll play to the level of the competition this season. That won't win us much. We played City tough in the CS. That same effort would have seen us go through the first two games without much of an effort.

Author:	TOP GUN [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:51 pm ]
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Another miserable post by TG alert Question for the forum. With Balogun and KT gone. Assuming we sell or loan Tavares, Pépé, Lokonga and Holding by Friday …… (as widely expected) then hang onto Gabriel and Emile Smith Rowe …. and dont sign anybody else. Would you say the squad feels stronger than last year or weaker? To me if I’m brutally honest I can’t bring myself to say it feels like we have strengthened significantly. Very weird considering what’s happened this summer.

Author:	Rich [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:00 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote: Another miserable post by TG alert Question for the forum. With Balogun and KT gone. Assuming we sell or loan Tavares, Pépé, Lokonga and Holding by Friday …… (as widely expected) then hang onto Gabriel and Emile Smith Rowe …. and dont sign anybody else. Would you say the squad feels stronger than last year or weaker? To me if I’m brutally honest I can’t bring myself to say it feels like we have strengthened significantly. Very weird considering what’s happened this summer. Well, of all those listed above only Holding made any kind of contribution last year and most people agreed he wasn’t good enough for us. So you’re looking at Rice+Havertz+Raya v Xhaka+Turner to determine if we are stronger, (discounting Timber which is frustrating) On paper we are stronger but whether that translates in to performances is another debate

Author:	Rich [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:00 pm ]
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Chelsea bid £35m for Cole Palmer, City want £45m

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Author:	AmericanGooner [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:08 pm ]
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Interesting story. Had no idea Shearer almost went to Man Utd. That would have been massive on the rest of the league. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dPDoynbJ628

Author:	Andy Green [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:35 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote: Another miserable post by TG alert Question for the forum. With Balogun and KT gone. Assuming we sell or loan Tavares, Pépé, Lokonga and Holding by Friday …… (as widely expected) then hang onto Gabriel and Emile Smith Rowe …. and dont sign anybody else. Would you say the squad feels stronger than last year or weaker? To me if I’m brutally honest I can’t bring myself to say it feels like we have strengthened significantly. Very weird considering what’s happened this summer. Hard to say TG and I'll wait until the end of the window before judging …..both in terms of what we have done/do and in context with the other challengers.....eg if Salah goes to SA, if Man City get that bloke from Wolves and what Utd do in the next few days Watching the first three games a couple of things came to my mind. The first was that last year was it ….we had to grab it ….you never know what the world will do....after our first three (fairly laboured )performances against mid table opposition, I felt this even more strongly...last year hurts. Secondly I think we missed Xhaka and his left peg....I have been harsh on him and he has defensive limitations but our left side looks below par compared to last year.....maybe that is also because Gabriel is not there and passing out of the back as he did last year This leads me on to Havertz....Jury's out but I want more...particularly as a goal threat....at that price and that pedigree I want 12 goals a season.....not sure that'll happen...and Rice....looks a lovely bloke, smashing in the dressing room etc. but again for a 100 million I want more His role for West Ham , breaking up attacks and using his stamina to get around the pitch in support was laudable but at AFC we have twice the possession WH ever have and I am not sure his game has the incisive qualities against a packed defence that his price tag warrants. Don't get me wrong....I want him to succeed so badly and win a dozen trophies with us and I think he will do a good job as a foil to Odegard (who can pick a pass) but again at that price he should be at least a 12 goal and 12 assist midfielder... I have watched that bloke Liverpool bought ….Szoboszlai ..at less than 2/3 of the price of Rice and wondered to myself who got the better deal.....this bloke is a great player in the making Like most on here the Gabriel thing is strange. With White shuffling across I think we have also lost some attacking flair/ overlapping down the right as well as the disruption caused by too many players changing position at the same time....I think it was Rich who identified that only three or four of our players are in the same team or position as last year. Against Utd I'd go with what I have seen works with my own eyes. Ramsdale White Saliba Gabriel Zinchenko(I'll take the defensive howler in him for his general play) Odegard Partey Rice Mart Jesus Saka With all that said I trust MA and I hope he can establish us this year and then we push on for many more to come. COYR's

Author:	Bored [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:38 pm ]
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[quote="TOP GUN"] Assuming we sell or loan Tavares, Pépé, Lokonga and Holding by Friday …… (as widely expected) then hang onto Gabriel and Emile Smith Rowe …. and dont sign anybody else. Would you say the squad feels stronger than last year or weaker? [quote="TOP GUN"] I would agree with Rich that on paper we are stronger. Unfortunately the injury to Timber was a massive blow. On first impressions it appeared he could not only seamlessly replace any of our starting defenders but become one of the starting 11 as well as give us a new dimension to how we build up play. Rice is the real deal so I’m very pleased we got him. Havertz is the only player who hasn’t affected games as much as I would have liked, but he needs at least a few months before we can start to fairly assess his impact. The other consideration when trying to assess the squads strength is how Arteta utilises it. Before the Fulham match most fans probably viewed Vieira as anything more than a technically tidy yet horribly lightweight squad player. If he can start replicating that level of performance our squad instantly looks stronger.

Author:	TOP GUN [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:01 pm ]
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Bored wrote: TOP GUN wrote: Assuming we sell or loan Tavares, Pépé, Lokonga and Holding by Friday …… (as widely expected) then hang onto Gabriel and Emile Smith Rowe …. and dont sign anybody else. Would you say the squad feels stronger than last year or weaker? Feels to me we have strengthened at the base of our midfield but we were strong there anyway. Took a massive gamble in another midfield position and improved our back up keeper whilst weakening our left back position. If we sell Holding which seems to be suggested then we are very light on numbers in defence certainly if you have any aspirations of competing in multiple competitions and haven’t strengthened up front or wide. Timber is unfortunate but I don’t really see a squad there that has moved the needle much if I’m honest. Seem short on numbers

Author:	socrates [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:44 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote: Bored wrote: Feels to me we have strengthened at the base of our midfield but we were strong there anyway. Took a massive gamble in another midfield position and improved our back up keeper whilst weakening our left back position. If we sell Holding which seems to be suggested then we are very light on numbers in defence certainly if you have any aspirations of competing in multiple competitions and haven’t strengthened up front or wide. Timber is unfortunate but I don’t really see a squad there that has moved the needle much if I’m honest. Seem short on numbers Rice is a potential gamechanger but it feels like overpaying has perhaps cost us another signing. The loss of Timber feels like a bodyblow because it would have enabled us to invert as desired from either side and he can play multiple positions to a high standard. Havertz looks like he's going to take some time to settle and at this moment it feels like we probably overpaid by about £30m. I still have no idea why we bought Raya notwithstanding what an excellent keeper he is. It feels like, for this season anyway, we have only really upgraded in central midfield and our back-up keeper but have lost the physicality and influence of Xhaka. Overpaying for Rice and Havertz has possibly cost us another signing or even two. This may be a tough season with CL games coming thick and fast. Finishing top four and a decent run in the CL might have to be looked at as decent season. Can't see us challenging City with the signings we have made and who of those are available.

Author:	Rich [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:48 pm ]
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dec wrote: Rich wrote: Varane averages 23 league games per season in his entire career, he’s only made 30+ appearances in 3 out of 13 professional seasons. For the rest of it I think we’re saying the same thing. Anthony seems to escape the criticism he truly deserves. He gets criticised but not at the level he should be for a £90m signing I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. I thought you were even being a bit kind. It's not lost on Man U fans either but they tend to blame the owners and their lack of a proper director of football. Long may it last. I think the owners have a responsibility to put the right people in charge and back them with sufficient funds. People may say the Glazers haven’t put the right people in charge but beyond that every failing post Fergie has been down to poor managers, poor recruitment, no planning and pretty terrible players

Author:	Decaf [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:18 pm ]
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david.d wrote: TOP GUN wrote: Thing is everybody can scream about it and I acknowledge it would be disappointing but letting him go wouldn’t be illogical. His best run in the side was actually when martinelli was injured and he took his place on the left wing. Would you drop martinelli or Trossard for Emile ? I wouldn’t. Also Nelson has now positioned himself again with some very decent sub performances last year. I understand people moaning about Havertz but it’s only 3 games in and there is no connection between Emile Smith Rowe and him. I would say Havertz does look slightly more a 8 than Smithers who is a 10. It’s irritating but I’m not sure he’s shown us or the manager that he’s able to adapt into one of the 2 x 8 positions. Where as look at Vieira Saturday ? Bit lightweight but on the ball has undoubted quality and looks like he can adapt. How upset can you get about selling a player that will barely feature when we have have some obvious gaps in the squad hampering us. I hear all your rational points TG. I think allied to being one of ours is that fear of him going elsewhere and showing the player he undoubtedly is and us regretting that he didn't get to do it with us. If he hangs around we might end up slotting him in at Left back, the way things are going.

Author:	socrates [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:19 pm ]
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So, Chelsea have signed Cole Palmer for £40m + £5m in add-ons. Top prospect but that's about £10m more than we got for Balogun. Exactly how many winger-types have Chelsea now signed.

Author:	Rich [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:33 pm ]
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socrates wrote: So, Chelsea have signed Cole Palmer for £40m + £5m in add-ons. Top prospect but that's about £10m more than we got for Balogun. Exactly how many winger-types have Chelsea now signed. Frustrating not to get more but it completely depends who you’re selling to. I don’t know what Monaco’s record signing is but I doubt it’s much more than what we got for Balogun. (Also a 17.5% sell on clause in the Balogun deal) so if he moves for similar again we’d bag another £6m on the deal.

Author:	Rich [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:41 pm ]
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Kane was barred from the club training ground in his final days with spurs. His belongings were sent on to him and he wasn’t given the chance to say face to face goodbyes. Pretty classless from spurs considering what he gave them over the years

Author:	Rich [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:28 pm ]
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Given the £1billion chelsea have spent in the past 3 transfer windows I’d expect a much better 2nd 11 than they’ve been able to put out tonight

Author:	Ash [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:18 pm ]
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So how much have we made so far in outgoings? Fees of some sort as far as I know from: Xhaka Mari Mavropanos (sell on) Balogun Turner Anyone else? Roughly 60-70m so far? Edit: Aaron trusty to Sheff Utd

Author:	TOP GUN [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:29 pm ]
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Ash wrote: So how much have we made so far in outgoings? Fees of some sort as far as I know from: Xhaka Mari Mavropanos (sell on) Balogun Turner Anyone else? Roughly 60-70m so far? Edit: Aaron trusty to Sheff Utd Player Nationality New Club Fee Granit Xhaka Switzerland Bayer Leverkusen £21.50m Matt Turner USA Nottingham Forest £7.00m Pablo Mari Spanish Monza £3.70m Auston Trusty USA Sheffield United £4.90m Balogun U.S.A. £38m

Author:	Rich [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:34 pm ]
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Brentford away in the league cup 3rd round draw

Author:	TOP GUN [ Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:35 pm ]
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Brentford away carabao cup. Won’t be easy. Rayas debut at his old club surely

Author:	gooner7 [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:18 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote: Another miserable post by TG alert Question for the forum. With Balogun and KT gone. Assuming we sell or loan Tavares, Pépé, Lokonga and Holding by Friday …… (as widely expected) then hang onto Gabriel and Emile Smith Rowe …. and dont sign anybody else. Would you say the squad feels stronger than last year or weaker? To me if I’m brutally honest I can’t bring myself to say it feels like we have strengthened significantly. Very weird considering what’s happened this summer. Rice should make us more resilient in midfield, but Arteta needs to revert back to a reliable back 4.

Author:	Decaf [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 4:51 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote: To me if I’m brutally honest I can’t bring myself to say it feels like we have strengthened significantly. Very weird considering what’s happened this summer. We spent a lot but our spending was not straightforwardly strengthening a system that worked very well but had significant vulnerabilities (CF, and covering Saka, covering Saliba, covering Partey). However, I guess Arteta did not get where he is by conventional thinking, so it really depends on whether what Arteta must have in mind can come together. For me, the lack of cover for Saka and the loss of Timber feel lack massive problems. I don't understand loaning out Tierney or getting Raya.

Author:	Ash [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:50 am ]
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The Raya thing makes sense to me. I think we could all see it made no sense to have a back up in Turner who had a different skill set and play style and it made sense to have a second keeper who could do what Aaron Ramsdale can do. Raya the only and far and away the best option and gettable. Now you’ve solved one problem - as well as you possibly could - but given yourself another one because you’ve got two number 1s rather than a 1 and a 2. But what were the other better options to have two gk’s who can keep the team playing in the same style?

Author:	Gunfire [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:30 am ]
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... gniter-rhr Quote: Harry Kane was barred from Tottenham Hotspur’s training ground in the hours before completing his £100 million move to Bayern Munich. The club wrote, in an email, to formally tell Kane it would not be appropriate for him to return to their training ground ahead of formalising his transfer, as he waited to fly to Germany. Tottenham’s stance also meant the club’s greatest-ever goalscorer did not get the chance to say any face-to-face goodbyes and did not pick up any of his personal possessions himself. Instead, he had to wait for them to be sent on to him and his family, who also could not access their suite at the stadium.

Author:	Gunfire [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:32 am ]
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Comparing what we got for Balogun and Manure paid for Hjoland I feel we were either short changed or Manure have had their pants pulled down.

Author:	socrates [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:35 am ]
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Gunfire wrote: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/08/30/tottenham-harry-kane-training-ground-bayern-munich-transfer/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr Quote: Harry Kane was barred from Tottenham Hotspur’s training ground in the hours before completing his £100 million move to Bayern Munich. The club wrote, in an email, to formally tell Kane it would not be appropriate for him to return to their training ground ahead of formalising his transfer, as he waited to fly to Germany. Tottenham’s stance also meant the club’s greatest-ever goalscorer did not get the chance to say any face-to-face goodbyes and did not pick up any of his personal possessions himself. Instead, he had to wait for them to be sent on to him and his family, who also could not access their suite at the stadium. What a lack of class for a guy who has more or less carried them for the last 5 years or so

Author:	socrates [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:39 am ]
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Whether we are stronger this season will obviously depend on the impact Declan Rice has and whether Havertz can prove a bargain buy. I would have liked to have seen serious competition for Saka on the right side because it's inevitable, given the number of games he plays, that he will pick up a lengthy injury at some point.

Author:	TOP GUN [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 8:09 am ]
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Ash wrote: The Raya thing makes sense to me. I think we could all see it made no sense to have a back up in Turner who had a different skill set and play style and it made sense to have a second keeper who could do what Aaron Ramsdale can do. Raya the only and far and away the best option and gettable. Now you’ve solved one problem - as well as you possibly could - but given yourself another one because you’ve got two number 1s rather than a 1 and a 2. But what were the other better options to have two gk’s who can keep the team playing in the same style? Sign a 36 year old back up keeper on a free or something We haven’t got a player in the squad mikel trusts to take 5 minutes game time off saka.

Author:	TOP GUN [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 8:12 am ]
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Gunfire wrote: Comparing what we got for Balogun and Manure paid for Hjoland I feel we were either short changed or Manure have had their pants pulled down. Seems to me like Man united obsessing about Haaland and trying to sign their own Scandinavian striker. Bit like signing Veron as their own Vieira

Author:	AmericanGooner [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:23 am ]
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I'd like to see Trossard start once in a while to give Saka a rest. Saka has played an incredibly and worrying amount of consecutive league games. 83 by what I've seen on the net. Anyway, I'm cautiously optimistic about the weekend game vs Man Utd. I'd be slightly disappointed with a draw. I am expecting a win. Hard fought perhaps but I think we will be up for it and want to do better from the last match. The draw may be a hidden blessing if the squad feels it was 2 points loss and want to take it out on Man Utd. If Man Utd score first, I'm not so sure we can win. I don't see us at that level yet where we equalize and then go for a winner if we have enough time left.

Author:	TOP GUN [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:02 am ]
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Suggestion seems to be that we could get Eric Garcia from Barcelona permanently or on loan depending on who leaves. I suppose it’s a body to cover the possible departure of Holding, Tavares and the absence of Timber. If we sell all the players being mooted we are really light

Author:	Rich [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:13 pm ]
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Nketiah called up to the england squad

Author:	Rich [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:15 pm ]
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For Saka cover/rest I wouldn’t mind seeing Jesus get some game time on the right wing with either of Nketiah/Havertz up front.

Author:	Gunfire [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:26 pm ]
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socrates wrote: Gunfire wrote: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/08/30/tottenham-harry-kane-training-ground-bayern-munich-transfer/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr What a lack of class for a guy who has more or less carried them for the last 5 years or so Really poor form. Kane comes across as a decent sort as well. If the season goes pear shaped this will be thrown back at Levy.