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Author:  TOP GUN [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:44 am ]
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Yep just feels like we have a few years in the wilderness now.



https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/02/mikel-ar ... -12330870/

Author:  tomc [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:21 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Yep just feels like we have a few years in the wilderness now.



https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/02/mikel-ar ... -12330870/

We are now reaping what has been sown for the last 5 years or more. If we don't get CL, and let's face it we're unlikely to, then getting £100 - £120m in for Aubameyang and Lacazette is a no brainer, especially given that we have Eddie, Martinelli and Balogun coming through. Get Saka signed up and try to get another centre half and centre mid in.

Basically rip it up and start again, as the song goes.

Author:  Ash [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:55 pm ]
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gooner7 wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
A good crop of young players for sure. AMN hasn't played lately, so he's had no chance to impress. Can't help thinking he'd do a decent job instead of Bellerin though, who doesn't look to be properly over his injury yet.


I believe a much more motivated AMN will do a much better job than Bellerin


I have my doubts AMN has much of future at the club. If Sokratis is filling in at rb and AMN isn’t making squads, where does that leave him??

Author:  long time gooner [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:57 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Man City v Arsenal in the premier league will take place next Wednesday. Premier League have hastily slotted in this game which was postponed because of the League Cup Final.
Not much consideration for the travelling Arsenal fans. Arsenal have offered to subsidise away travel

That’s the same night as Liverpool vs Atletico Madrid then.

Author:  long time gooner [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:59 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
gooner7 wrote:

I believe a much more motivated AMN will do a much better job than Bellerin


I have my doubts AMN has much of future at the club. If Sokratis is filling in at rb and AMN isn’t making squads, where does that leave him??

And not forgetting Cédric Soares - another in a lengthening list of players who join us but don’t play.

Author:  Bernard [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:26 pm ]
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tomc wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Yep just feels like we have a few years in the wilderness now.



https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/02/mikel-ar ... -12330870/

We are now reaping what has been sown for the last 5 years or more. If we don't get CL, and let's face it we're unlikely to, then getting £100 - £120m in for Aubameyang and Lacazette is a no brainer, especially given that we have Eddie, Martinelli and Balogun coming through. Get Saka signed up and try to get another centre half and centre mid in.

Basically rip it up and start again, as the song goes.

The thing is if Saka doesn’t sign a new contract he’ll presumably be sold next summer as well. For me that will tell us everything about where the club is going under Kroenke. Downhill in a virtually vertical direction.

Is anyone still glad Red & White didn’t take us over rather than KSE? I accept we don’t know whether Usmanov would have been a good owner. But we sure as hell know what Stan is like as an owner and I’m struggling to see how Usmanov could have been any worse.

Author:  tomc [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:52 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
tomc wrote:
We are now reaping what has been sown for the last 5 years or more. If we don't get CL, and let's face it we're unlikely to, then getting £100 - £120m in for Aubameyang and Lacazette is a no brainer, especially given that we have Eddie, Martinelli and Balogun coming through. Get Saka signed up and try to get another centre half and centre mid in.

Basically rip it up and start again, as the song goes.

The thing is if Saka doesn’t sign a new contract he’ll presumably be sold next summer as well. For me that will tell us everything about where the club is going under Kroenke. Downhill in a virtually vertical direction.

Is anyone still glad Red & White didn’t take us over rather than KSE? I accept we don’t know whether Usmanov would have been a good owner. But we sure as hell know what Stan is like as an owner and I’m struggling to see how Usmanov could have been any worse.

Indeed. One thing cashing in on 30 year olds in the last year of their contract. Quite another if we sell our best young prospect for the same reason. Hopefully Kroenke will eventually bugger off. Sooner rather than later would be nice.

Author:  gooner7 [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:37 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
gooner7 wrote:

I believe a much more motivated AMN will do a much better job than Bellerin


I have my doubts AMN has much of future at the club. If Sokratis is filling in at rb and AMN isn’t making squads, where does that leave him??


Seems it is his attitude that needs changing. Arteta obliquely stressed that aspect of him. If he does get his head down, and work hard, he can be a good player.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:53 pm ]
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Klopp won't talk to The Sun. He's "blocked" them. They were probably trolling :42laughter:


Author:  Gunfire [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:44 pm ]
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tomc wrote:
Gunfire wrote:
The wheels coming of the Liverpool season. They look tired and lack the dynamism of earlier in the season.

They're going to win the PL by a dozen or more points Gunfire. I wish Arsenal's wheels were coming off like that.


All things are relative. I think they will win the league but given the start they had pre Christmas I feel there might be a twinge of disappointment i they don't add another trophy.

Author:  Moth [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:38 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
Is anyone still glad Red & White didn’t take us over rather than KSE? I accept we don’t know whether Usmanov would have been a good owner. But we sure as hell know what Stan is like as an owner and I’m struggling to see how Usmanov could have been any worse.

At least Usmanov was a fan and cared about the club and football. Nothing positive about the Kronks

Author:  TOP GUN [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:11 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Ash wrote:

I have my doubts AMN has much of future at the club. If Sokratis is filling in at rb and AMN isn’t making squads, where does that leave him??

And not forgetting Cédric Soares - another in a lengthening list of players who join us but don’t play.


That signing looks totally bizarre. He divided opinion among saints fans and was signed on loan for 6 months for a large fee for a loan even though he was injured until late March ! I mean ffs

It looks entirely done By Edu as a favour to his own agent Kia Joorbachin who also has Soares as a client apparently. How much better an option is that guy instead of Niles or Sokratis on the basis it was obvious we are finishing mid table regardless.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:41 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
long time gooner wrote:
And not forgetting Cédric Soares - another in a lengthening list of players who join us but don’t play.


That signing looks totally bizarre. He divided opinion among saints fans and was signed on loan for 6 months for a large fee for a loan even though he was injured until late March ! I mean ffs

It looks entirely done By Edu as a favour to his own agent Kia Joorbachin who also has Soares as a client apparently. How much better an option is that guy instead of Niles or Sokratis on the basis it was obvious we are finishing mid table regardless.

I've got a feeling that this one's going to work out ok. We need depth at full back, with the type of game Arteta seems to want to play. Sok isn't a full back, and Ainsley while better suited to the position doesn't seem to want to play there and Arteta doesn't seem very impressed by that. Cédric is a Portuguese international full back. We'll sign him on a Bosman this summer and he'll be settled in and ready to go from the off next season. I can see the logic in the whole thing.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:58 pm ]
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Sheffield Utd away in the cup

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:28 pm ]
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Looks like Spurs will win the CL this season because that’s all that is left in Jose’s trophy magic this season. Spurs out on pens.

Author:  Bernard [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:30 pm ]
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Tottenham are out. Drew 1-1 but Norwich beat them in the penalty shootout.

Author:  Ash [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:35 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
Tottenham are out. Drew 1-1 but Norwich beat them in the penalty shootout.


So did they lose the game or...?

Joking, don’t know and don’t care. I felt sorry for all of them in the moment... it’s tough to watch someone miss under all the pressure and see them crumble under the realisation. It was the youngster Troy Parrot and the new signing Gedson - really rough. I wish it would have been Kane and Alli.

Not sure in the slightest we’ll get past Sheffield Utd :icon_eek1:

Author:  Rich [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:44 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
Tottenham are out. Drew 1-1 but Norwich beat them in the penalty shootout.

Eric Dier has just run up in to the stand and had an ‘altercation’ with a spurs fan. Video on twitter

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:13 am ]
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Aways nice when Tottenham loses and especially out of a cup.

As an aside, do they have their own version of St. Totteringham day?

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:47 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Bernard wrote:
Tottenham are out. Drew 1-1 but Norwich beat them in the penalty shootout.

Eric Dier has just run up in to the stand and had an ‘altercation’ with a spurs fan. Video on twitter

What penalty did Cantona get?

Author:  Rich [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:15 am ]
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Jose doing his classic routine at Spurs. He came in saying he was the humble one, did lots of good PR with ball boys and praising people but pretty quickly that has turned in to his old tricks.
He belittles players in public
Drops players and makes them resent him rather than want to play better for him
Moans about bad luck and how he’s basically working miracles with what he’s got
Has basically said spurs season is already over
Plays dour safety first football
Says he doesn’t have the squad to compete in all the games he has to play etc etc

Every spurs fan I know has already turned against him

Author:  Bernard [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:07 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Jose doing his classic routine at Spurs. He came in saying he was the humble one, did lots of good PR with ball boys and praising people but pretty quickly that has turned in to his old tricks.
He belittles players in public
Drops players and makes them resent him rather than want to play better for him
Moans about bad luck and how he’s basically working miracles with what he’s got
Has basically said spurs season is already over
Plays dour safety first football
Says he doesn’t have the squad to compete in all the games he has to play etc etc

Every spurs fan I know has already turned against him

Football in North London isn’t looking too healthy at this point in time. How are Barnet doing these days?

Author:  Decaf [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:02 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Jose doing his classic routine at Spurs. He came in saying he was the humble one, did lots of good PR with ball boys and praising people but pretty quickly that has turned in to his old tricks.
He belittles players in public
Drops players and makes them resent him rather than want to play better for him
Moans about bad luck and how he’s basically working miracles with what he’s got
Has basically said spurs season is already over
Plays dour safety first football
Says he doesn’t have the squad to compete in all the games he has to play etc etc

Every spurs fan I know has already turned against him

Emery was flop but at least he wasn't toxic. So on the whole I'd say we dodged a bullet ... which subsequently found its way into the nether regions of our neighbours :laughing7: :laughing7: .

Author:  Rich [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:10 am ]
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Arsenal fans won’t be able to use their 7 home cup game credits this season. We’ve only played 5 cup games at home and have no chance of any more. It means the club are having to give a rebate to season ticket holders for the 2 games. Seen some estimate this is about £4.5m.....or about 3 months of Özil’s wage to put it another way.

Author:  DHD [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:27 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Arsenal fans won’t be able to use their 7 home cup game credits this season. We’ve only played 5 cup games at home and have no chance of any more. It means the club are having to give a rebate to season ticket holders for the 2 games. Seen some estimate this is about £4.5m.....or about 3 months of Özil’s wage to put it another way.


Interesting.

I wonder how it will work if the fixture list is suspended, cancelled or all matches are played behind closed doors?

Author:  Gunfire [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:37 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Bernard wrote:
Tottenham are out. Drew 1-1 but Norwich beat them in the penalty shootout.

Eric Dier has just run up in to the stand and had an ‘altercation’ with a spurs fan. Video on twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gafWr4v_fyE

According to Jose he went to defend his younger brother.

Author:  DHD [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:57 am ]
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It's all unravelling down at 'The Lane That Time Forgot' (copyright CB). That place can turn toxic in a heartbeat and when it does, it's far far worse than anything we ever see at The Arse. The periods of unrest and protest under AW and Ernie were largely characterised by empty seats. I used to go down there regularly in the '60 with mates to watch what was then a team in decline after their 1961 Double. I have never heard anything approaching the abuse they used to hurl, in particular in those days at Alan Mullery - who was widely hated for not being John White. Hundreds/thousands of foaming-mouthed grown men would scream at him every time he touched the ball. Classy.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:22 am ]
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DHD wrote:
Rich wrote:
Arsenal fans won’t be able to use their 7 home cup game credits this season. We’ve only played 5 cup games at home and have no chance of any more. It means the club are having to give a rebate to season ticket holders for the 2 games. Seen some estimate this is about £4.5m.....or about 3 months of Özil’s wage to put it another way.


Interesting.

I wonder how it will work if the fixture list is suspended, cancelled or all matches are played behind closed doors?

That bastion of wisdom Matt Hancock said closed doors would just lead to people watching together down the pub and catching corona virus there.

However the euros and Olympics blatantly aren’t happening surely

Author:  DHD [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:33 am ]
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The way football is today, it probably wouldn't be the greatest financial loss if matches were played behind closed doors. Matches would be televised or streamed and there'd probably be a significant uplift in payments. As long as the TV money keeps rolling in, most clubs would probably be relatively relaxed.

Author:  DHD [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:41 am ]
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Torreira has a broken ankle. That's it for his season.

Author:  long time gooner [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:08 am ]
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DHD wrote:
Torreira has a broken ankle. That's it for his season.

Compare the penalty for that tackle with the Aubameyang’s red card. Inconsistent or what? And the commentators were justifying the tackle.

Author:  old man of hoy [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:25 pm ]
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Decaf wrote:
Emery was flop but at least he wasn't toxic. So on the whole I'd say we dodged a bullet ... which subsequently found its way into the nether regions of our neighbours :laughing7: :laughing7: .
Yes when he signed up with Spurs that was almost as good as us winning a trophy. So glad he got no nearer to our club than the away benches.

Author:  old man of hoy [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:29 pm ]
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Gunfire wrote:
Rich wrote:
Eric Dier has just run up in to the stand and had an ‘altercation’ with a spurs fan. Video on twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gafWr4v_fyE

According to Jose he went to defend his younger brother.
I know its probably not the best thing he has ever done, but something in me admires Dier's reactions. I have always rated the guy's passion and if he is pissed off with the Spurs fans, I wouldn't say no if he came our way. No Fancy Dan that one.

Author:  DHD [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:31 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
DHD wrote:
Torreira has a broken ankle. That's it for his season.

Compare the penalty for that tackle with the Aubameyang’s red card. Inconsistent or what? And the commentators were justifying the tackle.


I missed it the other night but having viewed it, it's a clear example of a scissor tackle - the type that's supposed to have been outlawed. Strange that Mike LOOK-AT-ME Dean missed it, isn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgU2toNxzng&feature=emb_logo

Poor sod.

EDIT - reading the caption beneath the video, it says "Lucas Torreira injured his leg". Simple. Mike Dean clearly agreed.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:20 pm ]
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We avoided City, Man Utd and Chelsea, although going to Sheffield won't be easy by any measure.
Hoping Man Utd get upset today but not much chance of that happening either. I expect City or Leicester to win the competition but it would be nice if made it into the finals and get a bit of luck there. Lifting a trophy would do wonders for this team.

Author:  old man of hoy [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:36 pm ]
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Goonie wrote:
old man of hoy wrote:
I know its probably not the best thing he has ever done, but something in me admires Dier's reactions. I have always rated the guy's passion and if he is pissed off with the Spurs fans, I wouldn't say no if he came our way. No Fancy Dan that one.

Another midfielder we have been linked is Southampton's Hojbjerg... wouldn't say no to this one either.
Don't know much about him, but Soton have good players.

Author:  Decaf [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:18 pm ]
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old man of hoy wrote:
Gunfire wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gafWr4v_fyE

According to Jose he went to defend his younger brother.
I know its probably not the best thing he has ever done, but something in me admires Dier's reactions. I have always rated the guy's passion and if he is pissed off with the Spurs fans, I wouldn't say no if he came our way. No Fancy Dan that one.

There was an admirable implacability about the way he kept going. I just can't imagine Bellerin doing that.

Author:  Decaf [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:19 pm ]
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Goonie wrote:
Another midfielder we have been linked is Southampton's Hojbjerg... wouldn't say no to this one either.

How on earth is that pronounced? :1laughter:

Author:  DHD [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:28 pm ]
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old man of hoy wrote:
Goonie wrote:
Another midfielder we have been linked is Southampton's Hojbjerg... wouldn't say no to this one either.
Don't know much about him, but Soton have good players.


Hey Old Man - you seen the Jimmy Greaves documentary yet? BT Sports production. It's excellent.

He was truly an amazing player but had the misfortune to play at a time of very limited TV coverage. He was solely a back-page sensation, not like Best who was an all-round media darling.

Author:  Ash [ Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:07 pm ]
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old man of hoy wrote:
Goonie wrote:
Another midfielder we have been linked is Southampton's Hojbjerg... wouldn't say no to this one either.
Don't know much about him, but Soton have good players.


Lamina, at Bournemouth I think, is another with bags of potential, bought from Southampton I believe. Young and I think with a reputation for a bit of an attitude.

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