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Author:  Decaf [ Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:43 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Decaf wrote:
Mustafi too. I don't believe we were sold a dud. Its the system that is failing.


Your on your own there mate! His brain farts are spectacular and he’s old enough to know better


Not quite, Top Gun. Quite a few people are of the view that if you drop a good defender into a disorganised and constantly experimental defensive formation, the odds are that that defender will become a cockup merchant.

I don't deny that we need one top class CB signing and a new keeper. However, we need to sort out the coaching issue or well we continue to be a graveyard for promising players.

The poor form of the likes of Mustafi and Bellerin is akin to having sore, watering eyes when you have a dose of the clap. Such symptoms should not distract you from the real problem.

Wenger out.

Author:  Rich [ Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:48 pm ]
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https://www.arsenal.com/news/tickets-at ... subsidised

I posted about this last week having seen a few people on twitter mention the opportunity for some good PR from the club by subsidising the travelling fans for Madrid away.

It seems a lot of people contacted the club about the difference in ticket prices for arsenal and atletico away fans - and the club have listened.

Author:  Rich [ Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:55 pm ]
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Decaf wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:

Your on your own there mate! His brain farts are spectacular and he’s old enough to know better


Not quite, Top Gun. Quite a few people are of the view that if you drop a good defender into a disorganised and constantly experimental defensive formation, the odds are that that defender will become a cockup merchant.

I don't deny that we need one top class CB signing and a new keeper. However, we need to sort out the coaching issue or well we continue to be a graveyard for promising players.

The poor form of the likes of Mustafi and Bellerin is akin to having sore, watering eyes when you have a dose of the clap. Such symptoms should not distract you from the real problem.

Wenger out.

Whilst I agree with the notion of what you're saying it is also interesting to see Liverpool's improvement since Van Dijk has been parachuted in to their defence, clearly easier to do that when you are a team who is generally playing well and winning games anyway.

Also, if we had a 25 year old Tony Adams and dropped him alongside Mustafi, Bellerin, Monreal and Xhaka and the brief was for Adams to do whatever he required with that defence on the pitch I can't see how we wouldn't improve.

None of our defenders (bar Mertesacker) strike me as leaders and organisers. Wenger has made a habit of buying the reactive, athletic, aggressive CB, ones who take risks, play on the front foot and look to nick the ball from in front of the striker. He hasn't purchased many of the organiser types. Defence is actually a position that you can get away without having world class players and still create a world class defence.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:57 pm ]
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Decaf wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:

Your on your own there mate! His brain farts are spectacular and he’s old enough to know better


Not quite, Top Gun. Quite a few people are of the view that if you drop a good defender into a disorganised and constantly experimental defensive formation, the odds are that that defender will become a cockup merchant.



This is a very valid point and very close to our problems for the last decade .

Rich made a point above that we have being going for a certain type of centre half that nicks the ball but I don't agree. Reason being is I don't think arsene looks in any qualities when signing defenders he just views it as a vacancy to fill. It's not like that. I bet he didn't do much due diligence when signing Gabriel and Mustafi

Author:  Rich [ Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:18 pm ]
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Chelsea did us a favour by beating Chelsea tonight

Author:  kiwipete [ Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:12 pm ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
Kiwi, I think you spent a fair bit of time in the bush at mining sites so you might like this Utube of trucks in Oz and some of the animals encountered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GIJQLc-Ntw

Must say I have never been inconvenienced by camels but birds, roos, cattle, sheep and emus have proved a challenge at times. Been in 2 cars that hit roos and I hit an eagle once and it flipped the bonnet on my HQ Monaro at 90 mph. The rest were close shaves for me.

:laughing7: How coincidental Gaz .......Was just talking about this yesterday to a mate . In Gove NT a French Canadian consultant took a brand new Toyota Landcruiser to run himself out to the airport , we went to pick it up from the car park .. no sign of the vehicle ...checking back we find it down a bank all the front stoved in , turns out he'd hit a water buffalo , vehicle was a right off .

Son and I were helping build a gas pumping station in Condamine , Central Queensland got laid off ...decided to leave early evening .

Scary at night , bush right up to the sides of the road ...f*** roos jumping out to cross the road all the time , we were down to 50 kms to try and avoid a collision .
In the end we pulled over to the side and waited for a road train to come through .... got right up his arse so he could pinball the mothers out of the way :laughing7: even that is freaky seeing big and small carcasses flying past your window .

Author:  gooner7 [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:05 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
Goonie wrote:
Wenger has underperformed. Our away form is abysmal. All I'm saying is we have a good squad that will perform better next season be it under Wenger or a new manager. Proper replacement for Mertesacker and we'll improve considerably. Don't think it's a coincidence we have not finished top four with Mertesacker hardly playing the past two seasons. We saw the difference he made in the FA Cup final.

And I'm not sure why it's so controversial to suggest the club is in good shape. We are still a big club that can attract likes of Aubameyang and Lacazette. The club has been preparing for Wenger's evnrtual departure. And we have good young players coming up.

You said it yourself, Wenger has underperformed. I'll go further and say he has done for some while. That's a reason to sack him, regardless of any cup success, even if the Europa League turns out to be our route back into the Champions League next season.

Why do you think the squad will perform better under Wenger next season, if he stays? Is it just replacing Mertesacker? I do agree with you about the impact of losing him. Mertesacker in my view was seriously undervalued by some Arsenal fans. But I thought Wenger was supposed to have already replaced him with the £35m he spent on Mustafi. Also, I bet Lacazette regrets joining Arsenal after being Wengerised.


Add Aubameyang and Mkthi to the list of those regretting their move

Author:  gooner7 [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:09 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Bernard wrote:
The club is going downhill under Wenger and will decline further if he stays. That is a reason to sack him. We can't even filll the Emirates these days.


He doesn't see it as a problem ..

Wenger says empty seats at Emirates are "not a big concern. Our crowd is pretty solid at the moment. … I believe we have a very faithful crowd, faithful fans, who will always be there to support the club."

And he adds: "We are sold out in every single game, so I don’t know where the problem is at the moment.”


I think Wenger must be a very difficult child for his parents, a difficult student for the teachers, a difficult person to befriend ....... His defence mechanism is to deny truth. Expect more from him in press conferences.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:25 am ]
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gooner7 wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:

He doesn't see it as a problem ..

Wenger says empty seats at Emirates are "not a big concern. Our crowd is pretty solid at the moment. … I believe we have a very faithful crowd, faithful fans, who will always be there to support the club."

And he adds: "We are sold out in every single game, so I don’t know where the problem is at the moment.”


I think Wenger must be a very difficult child for his parents, a difficult student for the teachers, a difficult person to befriend ....... His defence mechanism is to deny truth. Expect more from him in press conferences.

Same qualifications as President of the USA

Author:  gooner7 [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:28 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Chelsea did us a favour by beating Chelsea tonight


good one, too excited with the result?

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:33 am ]
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kiwipete wrote:
Gaz from Oz wrote:
Kiwi, I think you spent a fair bit of time in the bush at mining sites so you might like this Utube of trucks in Oz and some of the animals encountered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GIJQLc-Ntw

Must say I have never been inconvenienced by camels but birds, roos, cattle, sheep and emus have proved a challenge at times. Been in 2 cars that hit roos and I hit an eagle once and it flipped the bonnet on my HQ Monaro at 90 mph. The rest were close shaves for me.

:laughing7: How coincidental Gaz .......Was just talking about this yesterday to a mate . In Gove NT a French Canadian consultant took a brand new Toyota Landcruiser to run himself out to the airport , we went to pick it up from the car park .. no sign of the vehicle ...checking back we find it down a bank all the front stoved in , turns out he'd hit a water buffalo , vehicle was a right off .

Son and I were helping build a gas pumping station in Condamine , Central Queensland got laid off ...decided to leave early evening .

Scary at night , bush right up to the sides of the road ...f*** roos jumping out to cross the road all the time , we were down to 50 kms to try and avoid a collision .
In the end we pulled over to the side and waited for a road train to come through .... got right up his arse so he could pinball the mothers out of the way :laughing7: even that is freaky seeing big and small carcasses flying past your window .

Lived out Longreach for a couple of years and the roos are thick on the road out in that area at night. Bit of green on the side of the road is always attractive. I don't think unless you have been out there you could appreciate how thick they are. Plus a lot of that area was unfenced and probably remains unfenced. Mid winter cattle often sit on the road to pick up a bit of warmth. Nearly hit a big cow outside Winton late one night. Put down some real rubbed to stop a bit short of him/her.

Love the west but jeez it can be harsh. Dont know whether you saw the Roosters game last night but that was a brilliant defensive display. They had no ball at all but dug deep. Exactly what we need to do against AM.

Not too late in the season for snakes around here neither. Good ones a dead one.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-20/s ... es/9679716

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:22 am ]
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Keep these exciting tales of the outback coming Gaz and Kiwi. Here in Bromley our main wildlife danger I'd say is avoiding dog *%^@ on tbe pavement.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:19 am ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
Keep these exciting tales of the outback coming Gaz and Kiwi. Here in Bromley our main wildlife danger I'd say is avoiding dog *%^@ on tbe pavement.

Not talking Dingos are you.

Author:  Rich [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:38 am ]
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gooner7 wrote:
Rich wrote:
Chelsea did us a favour by beating Chelsea tonight


good one, too excited with the result?

Oooops. They have been known to self implode but this time it was Burnley they beat.

It’s highly likely 7th place will get Europa League next year but I hadn’t realised that 7th place will go in the qualifying rounds, which means games at the end of July messing up our ore season.

No doubt even if we finish 6th there will be the same tired excuses as to why we start the season slowly. The World Cup, the transfer window, tired players etc etc. Obviously none of this will affect the top 5

Author:  TOP GUN [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:06 am ]
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Have to agree with this article. We must lose to Athletico otherwise we will just fall further behind

http://www.onlinegooner.com/article.php ... tmejhbTXDs

Author:  TOP GUN [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:58 am ]
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Wengers gone !!!

Author:  bubblechris [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:03 am ]
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:22encouragement: Going not gone. At end of season

Author:  DHD [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:03 am ]
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It's true!!

Woooohoooooo.......

Full house Sunday.

Author:  Abu [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:03 am ]
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Bloody hell...

Author:  Abu [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:05 am ]
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putting my application in now..

Author:  david.d [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:07 am ]
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
WENGER IS GOING!!!!!!!


NOW GIVE HIM A PROPER SEND OFF


I CANT BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!

Author:  DHD [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:09 am ]
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Finally, we can look forward to something different. I sincerely hope that its a better, more positive future though I accept there's a risk. Something had to be done.

Thank you Arsene. Though your time has come, I can honestly say that you've given me the greatest moments of my Arsenal-supporting life and I shall always be grateful.

Author:  goonerguru [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:10 am ]
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My grandson just told me, rebuilding starts here.

Author:  tomc [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:18 am ]
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DHD wrote:
Finally, we can look forward to something different. I sincerely hope that its a better, more positive future though I accept there's a risk. Something had to be done.

Thank you Arsene. Though your time has come, I can honestly say that you've given me the greatest moments of my Arsenal-supporting life and I shall always be grateful.

Indeed. Should have gone at the end of last season with that Chelsea performance as a sign off, but at least he is going now. Thanks for the wonderful memories and players but time to get the fun back into supporting Arsenal again.

Author:  gooner7 [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:22 am ]
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Yes, whipeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!! Could the dropping attendance be a strong factor?
There is now brighter light at the end of the tunnel.

(But Stan's statement stinks. All his BS about winning again. You are the key cause for the club's poor state.)

Author:  david.d [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:23 am ]
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Got a tweet from brother in law to say heard wenger going. How do you feel.
I was like whatttttttt??
went online and saw tweet from matt scott about rumours of press conference at 10am.

Im like , no don't get my hopes up.

Then went on BBC WEBSITE

WENGER TO LEAVE AT THE END OF THE SEASON!!!!

F******K

IM DUMBFOUNDED
UTTERLY DUMBFOUNDED
WHO SAW THAT COMING????

Author:  david.d [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:26 am ]
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all that excitement has just come back.
rumours about the new manager and wondering who its going to be
all the press comments and news comments
the new manager first press conference etc etc .
wow going to lap it up!!!


Thank you Arsene!!!
Given us great memories but its time to go.

Author:  david.d [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:29 am ]
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GO GET ALLEGRI!!!!!!

Author:  Hazuki [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:32 am ]
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Wow. Despite the pressure that has been building for about a decade, that felt like it came out of nowhere. Genuinely shocked about this. I started following Arsenal for real around 94-95 so I’ve practically never known another Arsenal manager (back then I didn’t really care who the manager was, I just liked seeing Ian Wright score). Bizarre stuff.

But it was definitely time for him to go. I understand those who were on the fence about us winning the Europa League as it could be seen as a way to legitimize extending his contract, but now we can just hope that the team brings another trophy to the club, knowing that change is coming either way. Next season will be one of the most exciting Arsenal seasons in a long time.

Author:  Decaf [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:42 am ]
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gooner7 wrote:
Rich wrote:
Chelsea did us a favour by beating Chelsea tonight


good one, too excited with the result?

They've had a self-defeating strategy for some time now so the result is not surprising.

We can't gloat. I don't think Arsenal will get many points against themselves for the foreseeable future either.

Author:  Decaf [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:45 am ]
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gooner7 wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:

He doesn't see it as a problem ..

Wenger says empty seats at Emirates are "not a big concern. Our crowd is pretty solid at the moment. … I believe we have a very faithful crowd, faithful fans, who will always be there to support the club."

And he adds: "We are sold out in every single game, so I don’t know where the problem is at the moment.”


I think Wenger must be a very difficult child for his parents, a difficult student for the teachers, a difficult person to befriend ....... His defence mechanism is to deny truth. Expect more from him in press conferences.


Nah. I think he's a pretty good bloke who got trapped into a job that become stale and eventually toxic and he was too stubborn to admit he couldn't turn it around.

Onward and upward and no need for recriminations.

Author:  john1 [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:45 am ]
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DHD wrote:
Finally, we can look forward to something different. I sincerely hope that its a better, more positive future though I accept there's a risk. Something had to be done.

Thank you Arsene. Though your time has come, I can honestly say that you've given me the greatest moments of my Arsenal-supporting life and I shall always be grateful.


Totally agree DHD. I'm also glad the decision has been made, and his time has long since passed, but I can't agree with any celebrating his departure.

Let's keep things respectful.

Author:  Decaf [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:48 am ]
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john1 wrote:
DHD wrote:
Finally, we can look forward to something different. I sincerely hope that its a better, more positive future though I accept there's a risk. Something had to be done.

Thank you Arsene. Though your time has come, I can honestly say that you've given me the greatest moments of my Arsenal-supporting life and I shall always be grateful.


Totally agree DHD. I'm also glad the decision has been made, and his time has long since passed, but I can't agree with any celebrating his departure.

Let's keep things respectful.


Absolutely. And now fans can be unambiguous in their support for the rest of the season. No more need for debates about whether we would prefer to with the Europa or have Wenger out.

Author:  Decaf [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:51 am ]
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Hazuki wrote:
Wow. Despite the pressure that has been building for about a decade, that felt like it came out of nowhere. Genuinely shocked about this. I started following Arsenal for real around 94-95 so I’ve practically never known another Arsenal manager (back then I didn’t really care who the manager was, I just liked seeing Ian Wright score). Bizarre stuff.

But it was definitely time for him to go. I understand those who were on the fence about us winning the Europa League as it could be seen as a way to legitimize extending his contract, but now we can just hope that the team brings another trophy to the club, knowing that change is coming either way. Next season will be one of the most exciting Arsenal seasons in a long time.

I am certainly going to renew my television subscription. I am hopeful that the rot doesn't go deeper (I do worry about Kroenke and co) and that a new manager will unleash what would appear to be considerable potential.

Author:  Decaf [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:53 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Have to agree with this article. We must lose to Athletico otherwise we will just fall further behind

http://www.onlinegooner.com/article.php ... tmejhbTXDs

Thank goodness we won't have to endure any more of this sort of nonsense!

Author:  Decaf [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:02 am ]
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kiwipete wrote:
Gaz from Oz wrote:
Kiwi, I think you spent a fair bit of time in the bush at mining sites so you might like this Utube of trucks in Oz and some of the animals encountered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GIJQLc-Ntw

Must say I have never been inconvenienced by camels but birds, roos, cattle, sheep and emus have proved a challenge at times. Been in 2 cars that hit roos and I hit an eagle once and it flipped the bonnet on my HQ Monaro at 90 mph. The rest were close shaves for me.

:laughing7: How coincidental Gaz .......Was just talking about this yesterday to a mate . In Gove NT a French Canadian consultant took a brand new Toyota Landcruiser to run himself out to the airport , we went to pick it up from the car park .. no sign of the vehicle ...checking back we find it down a bank all the front stoved in , turns out he'd hit a water buffalo , vehicle was a right off .

Son and I were helping build a gas pumping station in Condamine , Central Queensland got laid off ...decided to leave early evening .

Scary at night , bush right up to the sides of the road ...f*** roos jumping out to cross the road all the time , we were down to 50 kms to try and avoid a collision .
In the end we pulled over to the side and waited for a road train to come through .... got right up his arse so he could pinball the mothers out of the way :laughing7: even that is freaky seeing big and small carcasses flying past your window .

Wait until you have a *&&*$ giraffe stick it foot through the roof of your car, or an elephant sit on it.

Mind you I agree that the jumpers are the worst. At least elephants and giraffes are easy to see and have some wit, but when you have kudus and elands flying into the road things get very exciting. These animals completely lose what little brainpower they have when they see headlight beams. I believe roos are a bit lacking in that department too?

Author:  tomc [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:17 am ]
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Wenger talks up Vieira as his successor one day then announces he's leaving the next.....

Author:  Ash [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:30 am ]
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Well he outlasted Mugabe so there was nothing more left to prove.

Author:  Decaf [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:35 am ]
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Ash wrote:
Well he outlasted Mugabe so there was nothing more left to prove.

The likes of Paul Biya and King Mswati III must now feel rather like Murali did the day Warne retired.

Author:  david.d [ Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:49 am ]
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Wenger has given me my greatest moments as an Arsenal fan.
I thank him and am grateful to him immensely.

But lets not show disdain to fans that are celebrating the news of him going.
He has stayed too long and it has turned sour and there have been many embarrassing moments these last few years.

The 3 FA cups in last 4 years was brilliant especially last years final.

But the celebration is more about relief that the club has been going downhill and we can now look forward to change with him going.
The same mistakes being made over and over again.
That's why some are celebrating the news including myself.

Doesn't mean we will ever forget what he has done for our great club and don't appreciate it.

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