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Author:  gooner7 [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:56 am ]
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kiwipete wrote:
gooner7 wrote:

Hey Kiwi, an interesting fact about Singapore water. 1% of it comes from an interesting source, but not the hallucination type. Goonie must be tapping his water from a different source as me.

Gidday G7 ..... well if it's not the water Goonie's been on something and still is ....... fermented durian ...???

Check this out for a statement

"As for Welbeck, he has got everything in the locker to be a top striker. Except his finishing lets him down."

:icon_scratch: :icon_scratch: how can you be a top striker if you dont score .


hahahahaha, Goonie is an optimist, a glass half-full person when it comes to Arsenal and Wenger ( :20hospitals: ).
I'm an optimist outside of "Arsenal with Wenger in charge".
But, I cannot speak for him, I'm sure he will say his piece.

Author:  gooner7 [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:58 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Seen some rumours linking us to zaha to replace Sanchez. I like zaha, but that is a downgrade. We should be signing zaha to replace walcott


That is just par for the course. Wenger has been downgrading the team for a decade. All we need now is Fabianski to return to Arsenal.

Author:  gooner7 [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:00 am ]
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bubblechris wrote:
Rich wrote:
Seen some rumours linking us to zaha to replace Sanchez. I like zaha, but that is a downgrade. We should be signing zaha to replace walcott


Probably spread by his agent for a pay rise. No way would AW even think of taking on Zaha. He's no way better than Walcott and has never scored anywhere near the goals Walcott has scored. In fact I would safely bet that if Walcott got as much time as Zaha on the field of play he'd score more goals.


Walcott had his chances to show his mettle, but he is just not as good as he was anymore

Author:  gooner7 [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:09 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
As I've said for many years now Wenger will leave us in a worse state than he inherited the side. People are starting to realise it now .....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... 508594.amp


TG, so many of us are with you, but Wenger ( :20hospitals: ) continues to be stubborn with his misguided belief

Author:  bubblechris [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:54 am ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
bubblechris wrote:

Probably spread by his agent for a pay rise. No way would AW even think of taking on Zaha. He's no way better than Walcott and has never scored anywhere near the goals Walcott has scored. In fact I would safely bet that if Walcott got as much time as Zaha on the field of play he'd score more goals.

Disagree with that assessment - Zaha looks like an explosive forward with plenty of potential for improvement. Walcott will never be a top player - he irritates the *%^@ out of me. I'd take Zaha over Walcott in a heartbeat.


So you want another Welbeck to play up front with, oh yeah Welbeck.

But who will score the goals?

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:59 am ]
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Apparently were interested in signing Nabil Fekir from Lyon to replace Özil and Sanchez who can both Fekoff

Sorry I'll get me coat

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:43 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
Disagree with that assessment - Zaha looks like an explosive forward with plenty of potential for improvement. Walcott will never be a top player - he irritates the *%^@ out of me. I'd take Zaha over Walcott in a heartbeat.


So you want another Welbeck to play up front with, oh yeah Welbeck.

But who will score the goals?

You really don’t like it when someone has a different opinion do you.
One thing is for sure, whatever your opinion of Zaha, that Walcott isn’t the answer.

Author:  bubblechris [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:54 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
bubblechris wrote:

So you want another Welbeck to play up front with, oh yeah Welbeck.

But who will score the goals?

You really don’t like it when someone has a different opinion do you.
One thing is for sure, whatever your opinion of Zaha, that Walcott isn’t the answer.


I have no problem with other peoples opinions but you give the impression that he is a goalscoring forward. Can you remind us how proficient a goalscorer he is, thus why he is better than Walcott?

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:40 pm ]
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This is the first time as a supporter I am hoping before the game even kicks off we can come out with at least a draw. Before it was win if not a win, then a draw. I would be surprised if we won it. With the state of things as they are.

Author:  bubblechris [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:49 pm ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
This is the first time as a supporter I am hoping before the game even kicks off we can come out with at least a draw. Before it was win if not a win, then a draw. I would be surprised if we won it. With the state of things as they are.


iirc you have never ever hoped for anything other than a draw. It seems to be a default desire for you?

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:17 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
bubblechris wrote:

So you want another Welbeck to play up front with, oh yeah Welbeck.

But who will score the goals?

You really don’t like it when someone has a different opinion do you.
One thing is for sure, whatever your opinion of Zaha, that Walcott isn’t the answer.


Bromley he's a troll who supports another club that consistently comes on here to wind up. Don't bite

Author:  bubblechris [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:39 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
You really don’t like it when someone has a different opinion do you.
One thing is for sure, whatever your opinion of Zaha, that Walcott isn’t the answer.


Bromley he's a troll who supports another club that consistently comes on here to wind up. Don't bite


Did your imaginary son tell you that or was it one of your comic characters, you buffoon................

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:55 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
You really don’t like it when someone has a different opinion do you.
One thing is for sure, whatever your opinion of Zaha, that Walcott isn’t the answer.


Bromley he's a troll who supports another club that consistently comes on here to wind up. Don't bite

I think you may be correct TG. So I will take your advice.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:47 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:

Bromley he's a troll who supports another club that consistently comes on here to wind up. Don't bite

I think you may be correct TG. So I will take your advice.

No worries

The clue is in the name, quite literally if you know what I mean

Author:  bubblechris [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:12 pm ]
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Well done children. You can't win your arguments when it comes to debating facts so you just resort to slinging insults.

Well I'll be pleased to ignore your ignorant and childish comments and stick to dealing with the adults on the forum who like to debate and discuss facts.

Author:  Rich [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:41 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
You really don’t like it when someone has a different opinion do you.
One thing is for sure, whatever your opinion of Zaha, that Walcott isn’t the answer.


I have no problem with other peoples opinions but you give the impression that he is a goalscoring forward. Can you remind us how proficient a goalscorer he is, thus why he is better than Walcott?

For me, I'm beyond tired of Walcott contributing absolutely zero to 8 out of 10 games and then maybe poking in a couple of goals in the other two. Zaha, whilst clearly not the finished article is by far a better footballer than Walcott for me and I think would contribute more to our attacking play

Author:  Rich [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:44 pm ]
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Wenger is just embarrassing himself with some of his quotes now. He has declared that there wasn't much between Arsenal and City, explaining that as well as the bad referee calls, under 'expected goals' Arsenal had 0.6 and City had 0.7 - which proves how close the teams are. Firstly City had 1.9 and arsenal had 0.3 so he is wrong but anyone with a pair of eyes can see there is a huge gap between the quality of Arsenal and City. City are 12 points ahead of us after 11 games. At that rate they will finish 40 points in front!

Author:  Bernard1 [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:45 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Bromley he's a troll who supports another club that consistently comes on here to wind up. Don't bite

The clue is in the name, quite literally if you know what I mean

Evening chaps. Look, I suspect bubblechris is an Arsenal fan. I wouldn't have thought he might not be were it for Top Gun's post. I really don't get Top Gun's comment about a clue being in the name. Does 'bubblechris' imply support for another club? I've been simple and presumed he's of Greek heritage (the 'bubble' bit) and his name is Christopher (the chris bit).

Having said that, I think he has some barmy ideas. But that alone doesn't mean he isn't an Arsenal fan. Countless Arsenal fans do. I get the impression he dislikes Sanchez, but I think loads of genuine Arsenal fans do. I don't dislike him, but accept he isn't really a likeable character (in my view anyway). He's a very good player for the club (I'd count him as no more than that compared to the true greatness of the likes of Henry, Bergkamp, Brady, Vieira, Pires, Campbell, McLintock, and others). However, of the recent generation of Arsenal players, has there really been anyone better? I can't see anyone, and I've seen every single Arsenal game in the meantime. So I rate Sanchez highly, very highly. But he isn't a footballing genius, let's be realistic.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:19 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
The clue is in the name, quite literally if you know what I mean

Evening chaps. Look, I suspect bubblechris is an Arsenal fan. I wouldn't have thought he might not be were it for Top Gun's post. I really don't get Top Gun's comment about a clue being in the name. Does 'bubblechris' imply support for another club? I've been simple and presumed he's of Greek heritage (the 'bubble' bit) and his name is Christopher (the chris bit).

him.


Goodness mate

https://youtu.be/yvuOtlpSAeY

Author:  gooner7 [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:58 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Wenger is just embarrassing himself with some of his quotes now. He has declared that there wasn't much between Arsenal and City, explaining that as well as the bad referee calls, under 'expected goals' Arsenal had 0.6 and City had 0.7 - which proves how close the teams are. Firstly City had 1.9 and arsenal had 0.3 so he is wrong but anyone with a pair of eyes can see there is a huge gap between the quality of Arsenal and City. City are 12 points ahead of us after 11 games. At that rate they will finish 40 points in front!


I will always jump on the anti-Wenger bandwagon. He is a joke.

Author:  Rich [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:16 am ]
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Mike Dean the spurs fan is the ref for the north London derby this weekend. Spurs win a lot of penalties against us and mike dean is notorious for being the ref who gives more pens than any other ref in recent history. It is like Dean is making a point of saying he’s brave enough to give pens, irrespective of whether he is making the right call. I hope we’re on our guard and making sure we throw ourselves at the slightest contact in their box

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:38 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Mike Dean the spurs fan is the ref for the north London derby this weekend. Spurs win a lot of penalties against us and mike dean is notorious for being the ref who gives more pens than any other ref in recent history. It is like Dean is making a point of saying he’s brave enough to give pens, irrespective of whether he is making the right call. I hope we’re on our guard and making sure we throw ourselves at the slightest contact in their box

Wenger asked for him so he will have an excuse in case it goes pear shaped.

Here is part of Wengers after match interview that he has prepared which follows on from some of his recent interviews.

Journo :What could Arsenal have done better:

I am sick of all these pointless questions from someone who has never managed a team. So let me explain...but we got .375 of a portion to their .469 and with the easterly wind that is sufficient for me to make a decision to play Walcott in goal for the second half....Čech will not last forever...duckworth lewis....minus the square root of F A.

Journo : So were you happy with the referee.

Author:  dec [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:18 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
I get the impression he dislikes Sanchez, but I think loads of genuine Arsenal fans do. I don't dislike him, but accept he isn't really a likeable character (in my view anyway). He's a very good player for the club (I'd count him as no more than that compared to the true greatness of the likes of Henry, Bergkamp, Brady, Vieira, Pires, Campbell, McLintock, and others). However, of the recent generation of Arsenal players, has there really been anyone better? I can't see anyone, and I've seen every single Arsenal game in the meantime. So I rate Sanchez highly, very highly. But he isn't a footballing genius, let's be realistic.

I hope Gael doesn't read this. He'll be devastated......

Seriously though, I would rate RVP above Sanchez. Obviously, the way he left the club tarnishes his standing as an Arsenal player, but he was absolutely phenomenal in his final two seasons with us. He was undoubtedly one of the best strikers in the world at that time. As good as Sanchez is, I don't think he is one of the top 3 or 4 in the world in his position, which is what RVP was.

Author:  Bernard1 [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:11 am ]
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dec wrote:
Bernard wrote:
I get the impression he dislikes Sanchez, but I think loads of genuine Arsenal fans do. I don't dislike him, but accept he isn't really a likeable character (in my view anyway). He's a very good player for the club (I'd count him as no more than that compared to the true greatness of the likes of Henry, Bergkamp, Brady, Vieira, Pires, Campbell, McLintock, and others). However, of the recent generation of Arsenal players, has there really been anyone better? I can't see anyone, and I've seen every single Arsenal game in the meantime. So I rate Sanchez highly, very highly. But he isn't a footballing genius, let's be realistic.

I hope Gael doesn't read this. He'll be devastated......

Seriously though, I would rate RVP above Sanchez. Obviously, the way he left the club tarnishes his standing as an Arsenal player, but he was absolutely phenomenal in his final two seasons with us. He was undoubtedly one of the best strikers in the world at that time. As good as Sanchez is, I don't think he is one of the top 3 or 4 in the world in his position, which is what RVP was.

I wouldn't argue with that dec. Sorry, by 'recent generation of Arsenal players' I was talking more about current players.

Author:  Bernard1 [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:43 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Bernard wrote:
Evening chaps. Look, I suspect bubblechris is an Arsenal fan. I wouldn't have thought he might not be were it for Top Gun's post. I really don't get Top Gun's comment about a clue being in the name. Does 'bubblechris' imply support for another club? I've been simple and presumed he's of Greek heritage (the 'bubble' bit) and his name is Christopher (the chris bit).

Goodness mate

https://youtu.be/yvuOtlpSAeY

Fair point as I'd never thought of that. I suspect both your and my ideas are feasible though.

Author:  Decaf [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:15 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
The clue is in the name, quite literally if you know what I mean

Evening chaps. Look, I suspect bubblechris is an Arsenal fan. I wouldn't have thought he might not be were it for Top Gun's post. I really don't get Top Gun's comment about a clue being in the name. Does 'bubblechris' imply support for another club? I've been simple and presumed he's of Greek heritage (the 'bubble' bit) and his name is Christopher (the chris bit).

Having said that, I think he has some barmy ideas. But that alone doesn't mean he isn't an Arsenal fan. Countless Arsenal fans do.

These days, its almost a requirement. So I can't see how that would single him out.
But I agree with your post. Not sure what Top Gun is on about.

Author:  Andy Green [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:32 pm ]
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Not being racist but I assumed bubblechris was of Greek descent....the old rhyming slang...bubble and squeak etc...didn't connect it to the Hammers at all

Author:  bubblechris [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:22 pm ]
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You're right chaps I am not a Hammers fan. I did go to West Ham once. Vieira was sent off for spitting i think. He was getting the shite kicked out of him and reacted. Swore I'd never go again it took ages to drive away from the ground.

What's daft about realising before everybody else that Sanchez was not good for the team and for calling Ox a loss before others started? Was it saying that a goal shy Welbeck was no use to us or that I thought Zaha Walcott were as bad as each other?

Can't think of anything else you might consider daft and wonder if it's not me that's the daft one.

TG has just proved what a child he is by making such a pathetic assumption or was it just to get back at me for saying he wasn't a gooner some time back?

Author:  Bernard1 [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:59 pm ]
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Andy Green wrote:
Not being racist but I assumed bubblechris was of Greek descent....the old rhyming slang...bubble and squeak etc...didn't connect it to the Hammers at all

As explained earlier, exactly my thoughts too.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:33 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
Andy Green wrote:
Not being racist but I assumed bubblechris was of Greek descent....the old rhyming slang...bubble and squeak etc...didn't connect it to the Hammers at all

As explained earlier, exactly my thoughts too.


Would a Greek call themselves that? I'm not so sure.

Fan of other club trolling, sort yourselves out lads. Bromleys right, comes on here trolling which is more of a giveaway than the name if that's not enough alone

Author:  Bernard1 [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:33 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote:
What's daft about realising before everybody else that Sanchez was not good for the team and for calling Ox a loss before others started? Was it saying that a goal shy Welbeck was no use to us or that I thought Zaha Walcott were as bad as each other?

Do you seriously not think we look a better team when Welbeck is in the lineup?

Author:  Bernard1 [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:40 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Would a Greek call themselves that? I'm not so sure.

I think there are plenty that would. Heavy dose of irony, I accept. But I reckon so.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:17 pm ]
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I'd take Zaha and so would Rich. Our West Ham supporting Greek colleague would take Theo. What does the rest of the forum think?

Author:  bubblechris [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:51 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
bubblechris wrote:
What's daft about realising before everybody else that Sanchez was not good for the team and for calling Ox a loss before others started? Was it saying that a goal shy Welbeck was no use to us or that I thought Zaha Walcott were as bad as each other?

Do you seriously not think we look a better team when Welbeck is in the lineup?


Yes I think he's a great player but not what we need in a front 2. He plays as a winger and that's not what we need, imo we need Welbeck to be a goalscorer.

Author:  bubblechris [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:53 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
I'd take Zaha and so would Rich. Our West Ham supporting Greek colleague would take Theo. What does the rest of the forum think?


I don't think I said I would keep Walcott I believe I said they were too similar but one had a better end product the the other.

When Sanchez goes we have only one out and out goalscorer. I believe we've all been saying for a long time that that was what we needed.

Author:  Bernard1 [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:04 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote:
When Sanchez goes we have no out and out goalscorer. I believe we've all been saying that for years.

Isn't that what Lacazette is supposed to be?

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:17 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
I'd take Zaha and so would Rich. Our West Ham supporting Greek colleague would take Theo. What does the rest of the forum think?


If ever you needed to demonstrate somebody was on a wind up :laughing7:

Stevie Wonder just called by the way and he takes Zaha as well

Author:  bubblechris [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:18 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
bubblechris wrote:
When Sanchez goes we have no out and out goalscorer. I believe we've all been saying that for years.

Isn't that what Lacazette is supposed to be?


I rephrased that quote but are you happy having just Lacazette, and or Giroud as our only back up?

Author:  Bernard1 [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:29 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote:
Bernard wrote:
I rephrased that quote but are you happy having just Lacazette, and or Giroud as our only back up?

If you don't consider him worthy of a mention, I think you seriously underestimate Welbeck.

Author:  bubblechris [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:46 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
bubblechris wrote:

If you don't consider him worthy of a mention, I think you seriously underestimate Welbeck.


Well Iwobi just scored 2 goals to give Nigeria a win. Giroud scored for France, Eddie for the U19s. I can't recall Welbeck's last goal or when he last had a good run. Of course I hope he makes it but can the Arsenal wait for him to come good?

We need another goalscorer when Sanchez goes, maybe sooner as he's not exactly banging them in. Can we afford to wait?

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